In the Arena

Missing George W.

Well, not really. But the last President did have some admirable attributes. One was his color-blindness and all-around tolerance–something the current Republican party has vehemently abandoned. It would be nice if Bush came out of retirement to scold the nativists in his clan about their anti-immigrant and anti-mosque phobias. But he has decided to keep a low profile, refusing to criticize his successor from the sidelines and, for consistency’s sake, you can understand why he’s keeping a low profile now: Republicans would say “You haven’t said a word about Obama and yet you’re taking us to the cleaners?” His has been a classy ex-Presidency, especially when compared to the loathsome Cheney.

I’m not sure I miss Bush’s penchant for nicknames (mine was “Joe Boy”): it was far too frat boy by a lot. But occasionally the President struck gold, as Jeff Goldberg reports in a new piece previewed by Steve Clemons today: he called Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer “the bomber boys,” after their obsession with going to war with Iran–an obsession Bush eschewed in his more reasonable second term, when he retrieved his foreign policy from the Cheney Cult.

In the end, Bush was completely overmatched by the presidency. His time in office–the tax cuts, the Iraq war, the torture, the slipshod governance, the spending on programs like Medicare prescription drugs without paying for them, the deficits, the failure to foresee the housing bubble–was ruinous for the country. But I’ve got to say that “Bomber Boys” is a keeper. Kristol and Krauthammer are hereby branded for life.

Burying the Lead: I’ve just finished reading Goldberg’s piece about the possibility of an Israeli, or U.S., attack on Israel (Ooops! I obviously meant Iran. Oh My Yahweh! Paging Abe Foxman! This really must mean that I’m a self-hating Jew!). It is terrifying…and excellent. My total opposition to such a strike remains unchanged.

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  • Ike Jakson

    Joe

    You obviously have a phobia about the Former President. As far as we know he is not in the running for any public office. What is this pre-occupation with him?

    Rather worry about your beloved One I would say when I look at the polls.

  • 53_3

    “…One was his color-blindness and all-around tolerance–something the current Republican party has vehemently abandoned.”
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    I could say that on GWBs’ own personal level, you are right, but you seem to have forgotten conveniently his visit to Bob Jones University.
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    Also, you insult the memories of everyone who was an adult in the 1980s and ’90s:
    You make it appear as though the GOP had just sprouted this ugly side, and as I remember correctly, in pre-Imus days, you were a shameful contributor to it!
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    Oh, and on another, and separate, note:
    .
    Can you say the word “Katrina”?

  • kbanginmotown

    (Still Not) Missing George W.
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    There. Fixed it for ya!
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    PS: And really: “Joe Boy”?!? Didn’t that sound a weeee bit…oh, nevermind.

  • Ike Jakson
  • Joe Klein

    Yes, it absolutely did.

  • 53_3

    So maybe you were just being facetious about the GOP, Joe?
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    Help me here…

  • 53_3

    The point being, Joe, I resent attempts to whitewash the past, mainly because I was there, too…

  • 3xfire3

    “In the end, Bush was completely overmatched by the presidency.”
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    In the end, OBAMA is completely overmatched by the presidency.
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    There. Fixed your typo for you Joe.

  • Ike Jakson

    Excellent kbanginmotown

    I love humor and satire; you did it so well and I enjoyed it. Not that our Joe will, but anyway. Hehehe!

  • michaelfury

    “the Iraq war, the torture…”

    Ah yes. Thanks for the memories.

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/a-naming-of-parts/

  • 3xfire3

    Joe,
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    President Obama was probably the least prepared of any individual to become president in our history. He continues to stumble through the job and so far has been one of the worse presidents we have ever experienced.
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    Yet like a good little “lap dog” you continue to sing his praise and you continue to demonize the Republicans.
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    It’s easy to understand why you were such a good fit for Journolist.
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    You are an elitist but only in your own mind.

  • groenhagen2

    It appears that the Peter Principle applied to Obama when he was a state senator in Illinois.

    And Liberace conflates being anti-ILLEGAL immigration with being anti-immigrant. My sister-in-law just arrived in the U.S. last month after more than a decade of working through the immigration system legally. Why should illegals be allowed to come and reside here without going through the same process?

    As far as the mosque issue, a majority of New Yorkers oppose the building of the mosque so close to the WTC site. I very much doubt that a majority of New Yorkers are Republicans.

    Now go back to sucking your thumb, Liberace.

  • groenhagen2

    As Limbaugh has noted, the man-child Obama is the least qualified individual in any room he walks into.

  • nflfoghorn

    No, no, YOU’RE completely overmatched by reason.

  • 53_3

    groeny:
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    Considering that Limbaugh hates the Black community, and, knows nothing about it, would one expect him to say anything else?

  • nflfoghorn

    How did Blush “retrieve…his foreign policy from the Cheney Cult” in a “more reasonable” (read: ineffective) second term? He completely baptised us in Iraq and feigned “listening” to everybody before he eventually did what he wanted to do: stay there.

  • michaelfury

    “Goldberg’s piece about the possibility of an Israeli, or U.S., attack on Israel.”

    Freudian false-flag, Mr. Klein?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/movers-and-shakers/

  • chupkar

    “Why should illegals be allowed to come and reside here without going through the same process?”

    Well that is the wrong question. Rather, why can’t we fix the system so that it doesn’t take a decade to come here? That would probably put an end to a lot of illegal crossings.

  • 53_3

    One thing that doesn’t seem to be mentioned is that Iran has the capability to retaliate directly against Israel, and they have a lot less real estate…

  • Paul-no not that one

    “I’ve just finished reading Goldberg’s piece about the possibility of an Israeli, or U.S., attack on Israel”
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    Atatcking themselves? That is a big story!

  • kbanginmotown

    PNNTO: If that happens, we’ll finally confirm the existence of the “self-hating Jew.” *rimshot*

  • michaelfury

    Trivia question:

    Messrs Kristol and Krauthammer were charter members of what notorious “neocon” think-tank?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/new-yorks-bravest/

  • Alex Vallas

    Burying the Lead: I’ve just finished reading Goldberg’s piece about the possibility of an Israeli, or U.S., attack on Israel. It is terrifying…and excellent. My total opposition to such a strike remains unchanged.
    =============Attacking Israel??????

    The article by Goldberg is very poorly written:

    “But none of these things—least of all the notion that Barack Obama, for whom initiating new wars in the Middle East is not a foreign-policy goal, will soon order the American military into action against Iran—seems, at this moment, terribly likely. What is more likely, then, is that one day next spring, the Israeli national-security adviser.”

    Say what? Against attacking therefore ordering military into action against Iran? Less likely or more likely????????????????????

    Personally, I am very opposed to attacking Iran in Israel’s behalf. By many accounts and ambigious statements by Wolfowitz, we went to war with Iraq to defuse them before they could attack Israel — once our troops were withdrawn from Saudi Arabia at the request of that government. Reason? It was the main gripe of al-Queda who did not want foreign troops on the land that houses Mecca. Consequently, it left Israel more vunerable.

  • husein11

    Considering 53IQ is a guilt ridden white man who hates America would one expect him to write anything else?

  • fhmadvocat

    3xfire3,

    With all due respect, Obama has handled the job with relative success. Whether you agree with his policies or not, the truth is that Obama saved the country from a major recession caused by the misguided policies of Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II. He had passed major legislation regarding health care, financial reform, and a number of other items. While the Right has labeled him “socialist”, his administration expanded allowing guns into national parks, and until the BP oil spill, was open to additional oil exploration and the increase in nuclear power.
    Has Obama made mistakes? Of course. Is he perfect? Clearly not. There is a certain amount of hubris. He thought his election was enough to change the amount of partisanship in DC. Clearly it has not. He was a bit slow on the oil spill, but it could have been worse.
    When you look at Obama’s numbers at this point in his presidency (poll numbers and unemployment) they are higher than Ronald Reagan as the same point. Given he was given a much rougher economy than Reagan and has done a better job, I can state he is not as bad as you think.

  • 53_3

    Well, hussein11, that was slick!
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    Except for a few rather serious flaws in the ointment:
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    1. I have been in and around the Black community for 40 years
    2. It is nothing like how Rush Limbaugh describes it
    3. I’m happy and well adjusted
    4. I’m well liked and well respected here
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    I would say that you are ill equipped to compete with me on this subject and it shows:
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    You should know by now that the it’s “IQ53″ and not “53IQ”. At least insult me correctly…

  • 53_3

    What is this anyway?
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    Why is it that I have to provide on-the-job training on GOP stragedies to neophyte wingnuts like hussein11 anyway…

  • kbanginmotown

    Joe, Joe, Joe…not even a hat tip?

  • kbanginmotown

    thx, Ike.
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    re: Humor. It sometime takes him a while, but then he comes around. His last ‘graf is getting better with each revision (if I do say so myself ;) )

  • sacredh

    “But he has decided to keep a low profile, refusing to criticize his successor from the sidelines and, for consistency’s sake, you can understand why he’s keeping a low profile now”
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    I think his silence has more to do with his concern for his legacy than with anything else. Cheney is still on the warpath and the more Cheney speaks, the more it seems like Cheney was the one making all the bad decisions or at the very least, Cheney was the one giving the bad advice that lead to so many mistakes. Bush has already said that he thinks history will be kinder to him than it currently is.

    I’ve never been a fan of W’s intellect (or lack of), but sometimes keeping silent says more than any speech could hope to accomplish.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Agreed kbang-Total theft!
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  • 3xfire3

    fhmadvocat,
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    “3xfire3,

    With all due respect, Obama has handled the job with relative success.”
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    You are certainly entitled to your opinions and perceptions about Obama’s performance.
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    My perceptions and opinions are that he has not done a very good job so far and it doesn’t appear he has the humility needed to make the changes necessary to improve his performance.
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    In our great democracy we are both entitled to our opinions.
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    Thanks for your post. It’s nice to hear from someone who doesn’t call names and demonize people just because they have a different point of view.

  • 3xfire3

    hussein11 and 53,
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    “Considering 53IQ is a guilt ridden white man who hates America would one expect him to write anything else?”
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    Not exactly how I would have phased it but there is an element of truth here.
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    53 does appear to suffer from “White Guilt”. It seems to affect all his comments to a large degree. I feel he is a Racist because he Race Bait others on almost ever comment he writes.
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    I am also from a multi-racial family. My family consist of black, white, Hispanic, bi-racial and American Indian. We love our diversity and tend to be blind to a person color. We follow the examples given to us by the great American, Martin Luther King.
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    For those reasons, I have a difficult time with Racist whether they are white, black or any other color.
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    53 does not help the cause of our black citizens. His constant race baiting only causes them harm.
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    If it came to a vote I don’t think our black citizens would elect him as their stockperson.

  • apr2563

    Joe: At what point in his administration was Bush ever introspective? Did he ever give any indication he was responsible for any of the messes that came from his governance? His administrtation was ruthlessly unapologetic to the end and still continue their Orwellian view of history.
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    If only Bush or Cheney could look at the deaths and maiming they brought to our military and to Iraq? But, perhaps it would be too painful for them.

  • 3xfire3

    Alex,
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    I replied to your post 14 on the story “Good For Fareed”
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    My reply was 14.1. I would be very interested in hearing your comments regarding my reply to you.

  • 3xfire3

    sacredh,
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    But he did graduate from Harvard with a higher GPA the John Kerry.

  • apollyon07

    “One was his color-blindness and all-around tolerance”
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    Yes, I never thought he got enough credit for this either. He maintained a diverse cabinet, and not only that, he appointed minorities to more prestigious positions (two blacks to Secretary. of State, one of them a woman). He also had the first Asian American woman in his cabinet as well.
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    Another thing I would add is his immense and unprecedented aid to Africa (this aid nearly tripled, going from 1.4 billion to about 4 billion during his presidency). Moreover, trade between the US and Africa doubled during his tenure.

  • 3xfire3

    apr,
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    History will show if you are right or wrong about Bush.
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    At this point you only have your opinion and perception. You have no provable facts. Only information from liberal medias and blogs that are unsubstantiated.
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    You may believe, hope, prey, and wish your information was true but that does not make it true. Look what happened to Dan Rather when he used this approach.
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    If it were true the liberals in congress would have conducted hearing and have Bush and Chaney both in jail. That they have not done this is proof that there is no such real factual proof.
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    Apr you really need to open your closed mind and realize that you don’t have all the answers. Do you really only want to be a Partisan-Ideologue. Life is too short for that.
    Open your mind and let some fresh air in and smell the roses. You might find yourself to be a happier person.

  • 3xfire3

    apollyon07,
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    Good Post,
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    Good to hear some positive comments as apposed to all the hateful stuff.

  • fhmadvocat

    “But he did graduate from Harvard with a higher GPA the John Kerry.”

    The question is whether Kerry went to Harvard for undergrad, graduate school or both.

    Bush went to Yale for undergrad and the Harvard Business School for his MBA.

    As someone who did a master’s program, I am not impressed with grades at that level. Grades are generally inflated, they are really inflated at the graduate level. What was Bush’s GPA at Yale and how does that compare to Kerry’s GPA?

  • sacredh

    Kerry is but one of one hundred senators. A President sits alone. I believe that Bush graduated from Yale. He was also a cheerleader that waved pom poms around so he has that on Kerry too.

  • irisspirit

    “But he did graduate from Harvard with a higher GPA the John Kerry.” 3xfire3

    I don’t know about the higher GPA, but GW Bush and John Kerry both graduated from Yale. Kerry went on to attend and graduate from law school (do not know which one) and Bush went to Harvard to graduate school (MBA?) – could not gain admitance to a law school.

  • stmichaeltraveler

    This is a good place to start the discussion:

    USA Interests: Iran and the Middle East
    http://straveler-myamerica.blogspot.com/2010/07/usa-interests-iran-and-middle-east.html

    Please, let us not fool ourselves believing that the Iranian fuel cycle would be any threat to Israel or the Middle East.

  • haman1

    what is the name for obsession with certain people whom know for the fact that their feeling towards the incompetent people such as GWB is wrong but can’t get more of him? There should be some medical term for it.

    HE WAS ELECTED BY THE SUPREME COURT WHO HIS DAD PUT IN THE OFFICE. HE THEN EMBARRASSED THE WHOLE COUNTRY BY HAVING GENERAL COLIN POWELL TO LIE IN THE UN ON THE IRAQ WMD. HE WENT ALONG WITH STORIES SUCH AS THE YELLOW CAKE FROM AFRICA THAT SUPPOSEDLY SADDAM HUSSEIN HAD PURCHASED FOR HIS NUCLEAR BOMB MAKING.

    HIS IGNORANT BELIEFS KILLED MILLIONS AND DEVASTATED OUR ECONOMY AND WE ARE STILL SUFFERING FROM IT.

    i CAN GO ON AND ON.

  • kbanginmotown

    Back away from the “caps lock”….slowly….

  • abbydelabbey

    I do not miss Bush. I am not completely satisfied with Obama although I voted for him. But, I also know that fixing 8 years of the mistakes made by previous administration will not be done quickly.

    Also, there is no one that I see in the GOP or among tea party people for whom I would even consider.

  • mycophile

    3xfire3~
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    I responded to your question of me about a mosque at Ground Zero on We Need More Money, and am would still be very interested in a reply from you to my questions of you on Dems Slap Pelosi @6

  • mycophile

    apollyono07~
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    “all-around tolerance”?
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    You mean banging on the briefing table to silence detractors, acting like and virtually claiming to be put in the Presidency by God, and insisting “if you’re not with us, you are against us?”
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    You’ve got to be kidding.
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    That doesn’t take anything away from him having installed token minorities that would betray their own for a chance to be in the revolving-door club, but it surely belies any notion of all-around tolerance.
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    Don’t accuse me of not finding O’s cabinet appointees any less opportunistic. Nor any less liars. Vilsack, for instance, is a Monsanto hack, just like Mark What’s HIs Name was a timber industry lobbyist. The whole game stinks, but Bush’s turn was definitely no exception.

  • 3xfire3

    haman1,
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    Man are you a crazy one.
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    Apparently you been suckered in on every liberal media and blog out there and actually believe all thier garbage.
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    Your kind of hate, lack of facts and behavior would fit in well working with Hugo in Venezuela or maybe the Dear Leader in North Korea.
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    All the stuff you posted is opinions and perceptions of a mad man. You have no provable real facts to any of your rants.

  • 3xfire3

    Since I started all this about Bush graduating with a higher GPA then John Kerry, I guess it up to me to draw a conclusion and make a final decision about this controversy.
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    Since I have a MBA Degree, I think I’m in the best position to say whether an MBA Degree or a Law Degree requires more intelligence.
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    The MBA Degree requires by far more intelligence as well as more Common Sense [and of course more good looks] than does a Law Degree.
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    Now we have settled this controversy. The head MBA has spoken and he is infallible.
    [most of the time except when he’s over ruled by his wife].

  • http://markomd.wordpress.com markomd

    Frankly, I think Cheney ran GWB’s show and Cheney is stark raving mad.

    President Obama, for all his strengths and weaknesses, constitutes an immense improvement over his immediate predecessor.

    Neither GWB nor Obama can match Bill Clinton’s brains and competence, or his poor taste in young women.

    RE: President Obama’s foreign policy. IMHO, BHO is still a rank amateur who doesn’t quite get it…yet. Afghanistan and Iraq are tragic wastes of wealth and human beings.

    On the other hand, Iran under the mullahs presents a clear and present danger to the Middle East and ultimately to all life on Earth. Cheney may be crazy, but he isn’t stupid, and his thoughts on Iran may yet prove to be right on the money.

  • 3xfire3

    mycophile,
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    Your long answer to my comment missed the point.
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    I agree the government should not dictate this location.
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    My point is that in your opinion, do you believe it is right for most of the liberals on this site to trash the 60-70% of their fellow countrymen calling them bigots, saying thier against religious freedom, and saying they are prejudice against Moslems?
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    What is your honest opinion on this?
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    Please read the rest of the post.
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    An example of their approach would be concerning the Islamic Facility to be built 2 blocks from Ground Zero. Many Liberals on this site have said that anyone who is opposed is a bigot, against religious freedom and is prejudice against Moslems.
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    A poll just released by Siena College in New York found that 61% of New Yorkers are oppose to this facility being so close to Ground Zero and only 26% support it. On a national basis those in opposition would probably be substantially higher and those supporting it substantially lower. There are even Moslems who are now coming out against this site location saying it is insensitive to their fellow Americans and no good will come of it.
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    These swamp liberals can not comprehend that their fellow citizens can honestly oppose this location unless they are all bigots. Their mind are closed to views other then their own. That’s too bad. They live in a small world.
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  • maverick2k9

    And there is the book coming out in November December. He has to preserve the juicy bits to sell his book.
    -
    Something tells me the book wont be helpful to Republicans in general and Cheney in particular.

  • 3xfire3

    mycophile and formerjames,
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    “1) Did you consider the possibility that when formerlyjames typed “most free floating right wing anger”, that it a) might be true, and b) would not include you?”
    .
    I truly believe that Liberals misread the motives of Conservatives. Surveys have shown that conservatives give more of the volunteered time and money to help the poor than Liberals do.
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    The vast majority of Conservatives are very compassionate people towards the poor and those people in need.
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    Where I think liberals go wrong in their views about conservatives is they don’t take the time to find out the true feels of conservatives.
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    Here is what I personally believe and I think most conservatives also believe.

    1. If I or most conservatives were in the situations of most poor Mexicans we would be climbing the fence to the USA to try and find a better life for ourselves and our families.
    We don’t blame these poor people for their actions. We would do the same.
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    2. We believe it is our governments fault both Republicans and Democrats that they have not secured our borders and fixed our broken immigration system.
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    3. We believe in a guest workers program.
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    4. We believe illegal immigration on such a massive scale causes substantial harm to the poor people in our country by taking potential jobs away from them. This is especially true in our intercities and poor rural areas.
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    5. Illegal immigration also lowers the pay scale that poorer unskilled Americans will receive.
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    6. Illegal immigration is unfair for the millions of people all around the world that are in line trying to immigrate legally to the USA.
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    7. If I wasn’t so tired I could probably come up with another 6 points but I think you get the point.
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    There is a major communication problem between liberals and conservatives in our country. I think this is an example of this problem.

  • dandetroit

    Klein’s reaffirms his leftist idealogue character!

    We should all miss Bush. Obama is such a complete incompetent, he makes Bush look great, while lifting (only by one step!) the “Worst Ever” mantle from Jimmy Carter.

    Our economic travails are fundamentally a long term result of Democrat and unionist inspired policies which fostered unsustainable entitlements and eroding competitiveness. Bush went to congress 23 times requesting action to avert the mortgage crisis! Many seem to forget that Democrats have controlled congress since 2006.

    Obama’s statist agenda along with his cronyist, corrupt Chicago politics style has exacerbated the problem, inspiring fear and uncertainty in business, the creators of jobs and drivers of the economy.

    Recovery is unlikely until this fall’s change in Congress.

  • offendedhuman

    To Joe Klein:

    I am an avid internet user, yet this is the first time I have every taken the time to register and post to a blog (yes, some of us are as busy as you!).

    Although my political views are different from yours, I have been a reader of your work over the years. In my humble opinion, your work is good. But what you posted today — which I will give you the benefit of the doubt was written in the spirit of good humor with the intent of making an important point — crossed a crucial red line that you might not even realize.

    You used the name of God, as spelled out in the Hebrew Bible (also referred to as the “Old Testament” by many) in a cavalier attempt at humor. As an educated person, you should probably realize that this is highly offensive to a significant population of observant Jewish people.

    Whether these Jews are “right” or “wrong” is not the point. Whether I am in this group is not the point. As you happily claim in your post, you are Jewish. Does this give you a right to post something offensive to your own kind? If so, this evokes a troubling analogy of African Americans referring to themselves by an offensive term, which I also believe to be utterly distateful.

    Put another way, Mr. Klein, would you ever make a blog post with an image of the Islamic Prophet? If not, would it be out of a concern of respect for the religion or your personal safety? Both?

    I urge you to retract your careless statement, the same way you urged the ADL to retract theirs (and I agree with you on that point). If you can’t step up to the plate on your own, why should anyone drink your Kool-Aid?

    Respectfully.

  • 53_3

    You’re really funny, 3xfire3.
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    But all statistics, and election results back me up.
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    By the way, to broaden your education, read a few Quintard Taylor’s books. They are very informative about the Black community, and in particular traces the nonmonolithic and independence of the Black community as I have pointed out numerous times:
    http://www.quintardtaylor.com/books-published

  • eostek

    This post seems a bit biased.

  • mfphoto1

    Don’t tell me you believe anything that Wolfowitz says! It has been confirmed by both Israeli and US sources that then PM Sharon told Bush to stay out of Iraq. Sharon did not see Iraq as a threat, but rather saw Iran as the real danger.

    Besides, since when did Wolfowitz ever give a damn about Israel? Before joining the Bush administration, he was known as an Arabist. He even had an Arab girlfriend. To Wolfowitz, Israel served only one purpose – to use the myth of the Iraqi threat to sell the war to American Jews. Note that Wolfowitz had long broken ties to the American Jewish community, renewing them only to act as Bush’s spokesman.

    Unfortunately, Sharon kept his opposition to the Iraq war confidential. Note that not a single pro-Israel group came out in support of the war, but rather also kept silent. Hopefully, lessons were learned.

    True former PM Olmert supported the Iraq war, but he was Bush’s lap dog. Just ask any Israeli. If you followed the Israeli press at the time, Olmert’s own security and intel people were quoted regularly as warning that the war in Iraq actually endangered Israel. But Olmert took his orders from Bush.

  • rdw56

    Weak attempt to write the 1st draft of history. Bush will do very well. Bush was so over-matched at the end he was able to force a massive, monumental and incredibly successful change in strategy in Iraq after the horrible 2006 elections. Bush, over the will of the Democratic Senate, the Democratic House and the Democratic MSM, shoved the surge down their throats and rescued defeat from Victory. It will rank was one of the great military decisions and legislative victories of all time.

    Today the comparisons between the classy GWB and classless Obama are stark and unambigious. More than 19 months into is term Obama is still whining about Bush. Bush ignores the childishness refusing to returns the taunts because that’s what class does. Yesterday he went without a camera crew to the Dallas airport to greet troops arriving from Iraq. He just does the right thing because it’s the right thing. The event was noticed and photo’s posted. Not the sort of thing Time or Newsweek would link too. But we find out anyway.

    BTW: Cheney handed Obama’s head to him in a decisive victory using the real facts. Cheney is one of the reasons Obama has been so ineffectual as a communicator. Obama hasn’t been able to move public opinion one inch his way on any issue. Cheney exposed Obama as a buffoon on Gitmo and every national security issue. Obama has now reversed course on every position he took as a Senator running against Bush on Iraq and National Security. Obama was against rendition before he was for it.

  • haman1

    3xfire3, YOU can’t read? Or did you find the WMD we were looking for in Iraq all by yourself? Its illiterates such as you who vote for illiterates such as GWB. It is because oif GWB who millions are out of jobs now and we are in this recession. His romantic adventure over seas caused 40,000 American boys and girls are dead and maimed for life. Why don’t you talk to the retries who had their money in ERON and now have to work at the grocery stores to make a living at 65 years of age. Why don’t you talk to the parents and wives who are looking for their loved ons. Or kids who will not see their dad.

    Do you have any humanity in you or are you all for yourselves. get a life.

  • rdw56

    “Frankly, I think Cheney ran GWB’s show and Cheney is stark raving mad.”

    Liberals always do this. Not that you are self-indulgent or egotistical or anything. Reagan and Ike didn’t run their offices either. Except the did.

    There is a reason Bush loved being mis-underestimated. Do you remember the 1st debate with Al Gore when a few days before Bob Schrum and the MSM realized they had raised expectation of Al Gores supreme mind to such levels it would be near impossible to meet them? It was a hoot. The debates cost Albert the Presidency.

    How do people like you do this to yourselves? It’s like Lucy, Charley Brown and the football. Because Bush was never an insufferable liberal genius he never made any bones about his C average. He rather enjoyed it. But because Al Gore was a lib he had to be sold as a sage. Everyone in the country knew he was a D student. Time never reported it but still everyone knew. What is in your gene’s you so willingly allow yourselves to be so easily played for the fool?

    Kerry is an even better story. After regularly referring to Bush as an idiot when the SBVs asked him to release his records Kerry had to lie thru his teeth. He had no intention and anyone following the blogs knew he had no intention. So Kerry did what every lib would have done an promised he’d release his military records knowing the MSM would never report he never did. 6 years later Kerry hasn’t released them.

    Know why?

    Joe Klein knows. The records will show Bush is smarter as indicated by several aptitude tests administered to all officers and more highly rated by his superiors.

    Another great example of what happens when liberals start believing their own preposterous BS is Dan Rather. That twit fell for what had to be the worst forgery in history because he wanted to believe.

  • haman1

    I found the answer to my own question. earlier I asked what was the terminology for the obsession with certain people who we know for the fact are incompetent but some of us admire them for it, people such as GWB .

    The medical term is “REPUBLICANISM”. A simple operation will cure that illness “Hemispherical Separation” .

    We should have a drive through procedure for that.

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