Following Newt’s Advice?

Last week, Newt Gingrich suggested that Americans were being wusses for practicing religious tolerance while the Saudi Arabias of the world play hardball with other faith traditions. Maybe this is more what he had in mind. A conservative church in Florida is organizing “Burn a Qu’ran Day” to commemorate September 11, which happens to fall during Ramadan this year. Leaders at the Dove World Outreach Center say Islam is a “violent and oppressive religion,” and in their own nod toward religious tolerance, they have invited Muslims to attend the Qu’ran-burning event to engage in dialogue.

Not surprisingly, a few people are upset about the planned lighting-up-of-holy-books party, including other conservative Christians. Yesterday the National Association of Evangelicals called on the Dove Center to cancel the event. President Leith Anderson warned, “It sounds like the proposed Qu’ran burning is rooted in revenge” and reminded his fellow Christians of the New Testament admonition to “make sure nobody pays back wrong for wrong.” While statements attacking Islam have split Christians in the past, the speed with which the NAE moved to condemn the Dove Center’s plans is a sign that some conservative Christians are becoming more willing to police each other publicly.

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  • nflfoghorn

    How’d these guys feel if Muslims held a “Burn a Bible Day”? Or a “Burn Chris Hitchens Day*”?

    *his books, not necessarily him ;)

  • http://djtrudeau.wordpress.com djtrudeau

    Before we all start a back and forth about this, shouldn’t we avoid giving these idiots more attention than they deserve? We don’t report every time the Klan says something stupid, do we?

  • mcy75

    Burn a Quiran day is not the same as Newt supporting rejection of the Muslim community center. A private instituiton can do any crazy, tasteless thing they want. What Newt suggests is that a government body actively reject a religous institution, which by my understanding of the Constitution is not allowed. Now if this church recieves government funds, then I guess there would be a slim comparision but in the end this is no different than the Skokie IL Nazi Party marching or a Klan gathering.

  • michaelfury

    Perhaps they can organize “Melt a steel I-beam with kerosene Day” instead.

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/we-have-heard-reports/

  • ottoman88

    Nothing says “World Outreach” like burning Korans.

  • apr2563

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/30/newt-gingrich-suggests-at_n_665063.html
    The Newt also thinks we should attack N. Korea and Iran and that the Muslims are trying to bring Sharia to US. This is the noted scholar Newt.

  • fhmadvocat

    Dove World Outriach Center . . . . . The name sounds so . . . . . . .Orwellian.

    It is nice to know we have our own Christian Taliban operating in this country. And it is so nice they offered to dialogue with Muslims. Would they attend a “Burn the Bible” gathering to dialogue?

    I suggest these clowns go back and actually read the Good Book.

  • bobcn1

    The ‘Dove World Outreach Center’ is sponsoring ‘Burn a Qu’ran Day’. This is a joke, right?

    These people aren’t really so stupid as to provide us with a perfect parody of religious bigots, are they? They’re making John Stewart’s job waaaay too easy.

    Gingrich’s behavior doesn’t surprise me. The man’s been vile for as long as I’ve been aware of him (since at least the mid 70s). Every time I begin to forget just what a disgusting person he is — he reminds me.

  • acameronw

    I always thought America’s goal in the world was to make them more like us instead of us becoming more like them.

  • bobcn1

    ‘…this is no different than the Skokie IL Nazi Party marching or a Klan gathering’
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    The Nazi Party, the Klan, and the ‘Dove World Outreach Center’. An apt comparison.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    From Apr’s article:
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    ” He also claimed that Muslims are trying to install Sharia law on America and said that the “War on Terror” should have been a war on “radical Islamists” instead.

    Speaking at an American Enterprise Institute event yesterday, Gingrich compared not following through on President George W. Bush’s “Axis of Evil” agenda with not fully engaging the Axis power in World War II. ”
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    Yeah, those hundred or so Muslims across the street from me keep on forcing me to marry eleven different women at once.
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    Boy am I tired.
    . :)
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    Sharia law in America?
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    Bulls hit.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Not surprisingly, a few people are upset about the planned lighting-up-of-holy-books party, including other conservative Christians. Yesterday the National Association of Evangelicals called on the Dove Center to cancel the event.”

    Thankfully our homegrown Christian Taliban is very, very small and offensive even to most evangelicals – even the ones who want to the Gingrich who stole Christmas to be president.

  • http://flounder73.wordpress.com pafro

    I’m thinking “neuter serial adulterers day”.
    We can start with Newt and see how it goes over with the rest of the American Taliban.

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks for this piece, Amy Sullivan.

  • http://flounder73.wordpress.com pafro

    Where are all the usual trolls like Rusty jumping in to defend this as totally patriotic and American? This sort of hate is right up their alley.

  • geezzz99

    What does the DOVE stand for in your center’s name, guys?? Let’s remember what Christ taught us.

  • charley321

    forget burn the koran day on 9/11 lets have burn a mosque day muslums make the nazi’s look tolerante

  • maverick2k9

    Yeah.. that too from someone whose President once said “they hate our freedoms”.

  • obamaliar

    show me where the matches are.

  • obamaliar

    you mean mosques(pl)

  • obamaliar

    I’m with the the rest of America. The muzzies need to be removed from this country and if it were possible the world.

  • obamaliar

    no.. you’re the type that cheers when islamic women are stoned or the Taliban kills a family for speaking to soldiers. you’re what bottom feeders feed on

  • charley321

    don’t worry I’ll bring the matches just chain the doors

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    Its people like the those at the Dove World Outreach Center who scare me more than those who follow a radical form of Islam on the other side of the world.

    If Dove and those of like mind had their way, we would be living in a Christian Theocracy where free speech and especially the freedom to worship as each person saw fit would be a thing of the past. Anybody who attends this burn-a-holy-book party doesn’t deserve the freedom this country offers. And those of us who allow stuff like this happen–simply because we love the freedom- deserve the consequences.

  • ericnwinter

    Nicely put!

  • ericnwinter

    Jerks often use religion and politics as cover to be jerks.

  • nabi18
  • kija1

    if you are going to be a bigot, at least have the good grace to get your spelling right, that way instead of looking ignorant and stupid, you just look ignorant.

  • http://dannyteal.wordpress.com dannyteal

    It seems to me the problem has been identified already by Nietzsche in “God is dead.” The cause of all this nonsense IS God, which should be re-written god or not written at all, come to think of it. This whole sickness of “debt and repayment,” which is the premise of Judaism, Christianity and Islam is a load of bunk. I think two thousand years of mourning is sufficient. While you are burning books, throw the Bible and the Torah on the same pile and employ forgetfulness and a more positive theme of enlightenment over the rage of a one dead god empowerment in resentment and slavery. Freedom is fundamental and prior to god (no matter how you spell it). If it were not then [god] him/her/itself would not have had the freedom to create. There is no external authority.

  • jaysecurity7

    was it your mom or gf that had sex with a muslim on your birthday. the only thing you shoudl chain down is yourself and then commit suicide. your worthless, probably a republican and problably a blond guy from the south or another type of dumb hill billy.

    All in all you condone burning of religious books, and killing of innocent people. hmm im suprised you werent in one fo those planes killing innocent people. or rather in the american army killing innocent ppl. you are the scum of the earth that will eventaully be weeded out through evolution, unforunately american women are too stupid at this point to do so

    rot in hell cracker

  • jaysecurity7

    burning the korean? real classy, lead a christian group from florida to do such a thing? and people thing Christianity is above islam? lol At least muslims realize the two religions are really closely related. on a side note, why are spanish people at war with islam, im glad they are being deported as we speak lol

  • ricardo4max

    For a society or group to support a policiy or establish a tenet that effectively results in their demise or extinction (such as the intent of Islam towards non-Islamic peoples), then that policy or tenet is not only foolish, it is suicidal. Wake up all left wing kooks. There is no playing nice with Islam.

  • ottoman88

    Nice, wishing for the extermination of an entire religion. Stay classy, conservatives!

  • ottoman88

    Priceless — in one comment you state your wish that all of the “muzzies” be exterminated, wiped off the face of the earth, and then in the next, you dare to suggest that it’s liberals who cheer when Islamic women get stoned.

    Make up your mind, moron. Are you for or against violence against Muslims? Can’t be both.

  • ottoman88

    TO THE ADMINISTRATORS:

    Just what does it take to get banned from this site? If not these kinds of racist and exterminationist comments from “obamaliar” and “charley321,” what exactly?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Retardomax,,
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    Your knowledge of the Koran, Muslims, Islam, Economics, US History, the Constitution, business, political science and science are the reason that we are so worried about our public education.
    .
    Here is a math problem for you:
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    One billion (1,000,000,000) Muslims.
    .
    Three hundred million Americans (300,000,000) who are 99% non-Muslim (297,000,000) people.
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    1,431 years of Islam. 234 years of the US.
    .
    Why are we not all dead if their goal is to kill all Americans?
    .
    Please complete the fourth grade and return later.

  • 53_3

    Why don’t we just blast a big arse hole in that side of the planer?
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    It might spin wobbly, and look sorta like a half eaten apple, but hells bells!
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    We did it in the name of freedom*
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    *not

  • 53_3

    ottoman88:
    .
    It’s a First Amendment thing, on the edge of course. Sort of like someone’s picture in the cross hairs on a website, if you get my meaning.
    .
    I don’t think it will happen unless the drop the veil and even that doesn’t get someone banned. You’ll get your comments buried if you say bad words, but in a way, Swamplands’ laxness is maybe a blessing in disguise.
    .
    We become a testing ground for establishing new ways of countering hateful rhetoric.
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    It’s up to us Swamplanders to just keep disassembling their rhetoric and showing people like these two for what they are.

  • 53_3

    Obamaliar and charley321:
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    Is the point you are trying to make that there are no limits to blatant racism and hatred in the GOP?
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    If that’s what you are trying to convey, I would say you are doing a great job…

  • fluggie

    My God! You idiots, this is how Naziism started. Your intolerance makes me sick.

  • pineacre

    As a Muslim I actually support their right to burn the Quran. I am not offended but rather feel sad for them. I think they will probably be better off talking to some Muslims or reaching out to the local community Mosque but that’s just me. I hope if Muslims ever tried this stunt with a Bible or any other religious text that all Americans would be up in arms also. Religious extremism is alive and well and not just in Islam. If they do burn the Quran I hope they burn the version published by non-Muslims that is a terrible translation anyway. Technically the Quran is only the Quran in Arabic, they would in essence be burning aa translation of the meaning of the Quran. Small point maybe but kinda laughable.

  • 53_3

    That brings up an interesting point:
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    Being people are people, and meanings can be conveyed in words, don’t you think it might be an important undertaking for someone to correctly translate the Quran from Arabic to English?
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    That way, people would be better informed.

  • pittsburghpoet

    What if individuals were to translate their favorite verses from the Quran, providing a summary of the context? This is something I see in popular Christian and Jewish publications. This is more powerful when accompanied by the description of individual, personal associations.

  • gloriousglo2

    Yeah, no Shet….

  • abdullah69

    I have no problem with these people burning the Koran providing they are prepared to swear on the Bible that they have read it first.

    And let’s follow up “Burn the Koran” Day with “Barbecue a Jew” Day as well, just to show even -handedness in intolerance. Hell, you could even make an argument that the Jews are far more violent, give the number of fatalities they have caused since 9/11. But then those fatalities weren’t all Americans……..

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