Morning Must Reads: Tough to Swallow

Senate Democrats’ budget pointman Kent Conrad calls for a temporary extension of the Bush tax cuts in totality. Ben Nelson too.
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Oh, that’ll never happen. Republicans dug in their heels over $33 billion in unemployment benefit extensions because it would add to the deficit, so I’m sure there’s just no way they’d support tax cuts that would mean $678 billion in lost revenue and thus contribute 20 times as much to the deficit.
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Unless, you know, Republicans are just full of sh!t.

What today’s “Must Reads” displays?
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“Democrat Desparation”

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Once said, “what goes around comes around”
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Liberals who were so insistent on vilifying George W. Bush now have their own hands full. The lies and distortions have come home to roost.

Yes, Democrats have their hands full … with the latest Gallup poll giving them a 6-point edge over Republicans.
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But I appreciate your admission that the right-wing attacks on President Obama are simply “lies and distortions.”

Flounder:

Unemployment benefits come from taxes that are collected from taxpayers.

Taxes comes from Income earning people.

Taxes are monies confiscated from the people. It is not the governments money. Since taxes are the peoples money, tax cuts do not add to the deficit, spending does. If tax rates stay the same forever, and spending increases you have deficits.

The left needs a new meme because they current one is wrong on facts and common sense but then that describes the philosophy of the left.

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“growing fatigue”

Stay the course.

“The snake is long, seven [hundred] miles”

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/the-gas-must-flow/

“The lies and distortions have come home to roost.”
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Here’s another Rusty quote: “I am also not a religious zealot or fundamentalist, but this also REEKS in connections to writings I have read on how the Anti-Christ will take over the world.”
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Rusty thinks Obama might be the anti-Christ. He’s stated before that he thinks Obama is planning on instituting ‘marshall law’.
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And Rusty accuses liberals of lies and distortions. He’s either a liar, a hypocrite, or pathologically paranoid.

Dirty Water Dog? In NY?? Is the KONY tryna kill the PM?

“Taxes are monies confiscated from the people.”
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Oh, he’s a LaRoucher* that explains a lot…
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* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_Larouche

Like the White House with Barack Obama did to poor Shirley Sherrod, little kevin and momento’s distortion of the context of my comments are nothing short of apalling, and slanderous.
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Another quote: “birds of a feather, flock together”.
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Enjoy boys!!

“Repub Recitation”
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Whatever regurgitates…is fit to go viral.

RE the last sentence: We all are – some just don’t get rid of it fast enough.

As Oliver Wendell Holmes said, “I like to pay taxes. With them I buy civilization.”
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If you don’t like your money being confiscated by the government, go move to Somalia. It’s a tax-free libertarian paradise. Have fun!

Adam Sorensen: Nothing on the Daily Caller’s exposure of blantant abuse of the media by the liberal jounalist, even one on your own staff, Michael Scherer?
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How suprising is this?
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http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/when-mccain-picked-palin-liberal-journalists-coordinated-the-best-line-of-attack/
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And now with this Daily Caller article posted, even Joe Klein is revealed to be part of it all.
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Amazing.

What did I miss?
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Frum on the ‘Shame of Conservative Media’.

“By the morning of July 20 the Sherrod-as-racist narrative had collapsed.

What is most fascinating about that second day, however, was the conservative reaction to the collapse. At midday on the 20th, Rush Limbaugh was still praising Breitbart: “I know that Andrew Breitbart’s done great work getting this video of Ms. Sherrod at the U.S. Department of Agriculture and her supposed racism and so forth saying she’s not gonna help a white farmer.”

By the evening of the 20th, however, conservatives were backing away, acknowledging that an innocent women had been defamed.[...]

But you’ll never guess who emerged as the villains of the story in this second-day conservative react. Not Andrew Breitbart, the distributor of a falsified tape. No, the villains were President Obama and the NAACP for believing Breitbart’s falsehood.

Breitbart went almost universally unmentioned. Erickson even justified Breitbart’s falsehood as a tragic but necessary and justifiable measure of conservative self-defense…”

Yes, it was Barack Obama who edited that videotape of Sherrod, distorting her message entirely, and then shopped it around to the news networks.
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Not Andrew Breitbart (the man who did the same distortion hitjob on ACORN), but Barack Obama.
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I keep thinking you’re incredibly stupid, Rusty, but I always seem to underestimate just how stupid you really are. Amazing.

Freeinpa,
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Taxes are the admission price for residing in a country.
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TINSTAAFL.
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There Is No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah – let volunteers and charities run fund raisers.
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Okay, volunteer for the Army without pay and do a successful fundraiser for a half dozen Stealth bombers and a few hundred armored Humvees and we’ll believe in the power of private charity taking over for government.
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In the meantime, roads and bridges do not fix themselves, Wall Street and banks without regulation are prone to doing incredibly dumb and deceptive things. Students do not teach themselves. Air Traffic does not regulate itself. Nothing happens unless it gets paid for.
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Who benefits from roads, schools, well regulated financial institutions preventing many types of market failures and national defense?
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All people living here.
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Who have gained the most from America?
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Those who are earning the most have gained the most.
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Those who have gained the most pay the most.

Again, this is a perfect example of the ways in which Rusty dutifully obeys his propaganda masters and regurgitates what they tell him to believe.
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Read Frum, then read 2.3. You’re a good little lapdog, Rusty. Good boy.

Oh, I’m nowhere near done with Rustyblog yet.

“Democrat[ic] Desparation”
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2010 election: Democrats 50 Senators (plus 2 Democratic leaning independents) to 48 Republicans. 226 Democratic Congressmen to 209 Republican Congressmen.
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http://www.electionprojection.com/index.php
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Almost every time I return to this site there are smaller and smaller Republican gains.
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Your party had it all for six years and, with the mess you left behind, you are not going to get too many who want you back in the driver’s seat.

Frum:

No, Breitbart’s indignant words on the 20th were aimed at another snippets-out-of-context scandal for the Right: the Daily Caller’s publication of quotations from the JournoList archive in which liberal activists and bloggers jeered George Stephanopoulos for asking Barack Obama about Jeremiah Wright.
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Speaking on a liberal list serve, journalists had wondered how the Wright story could be stifled. One obnoxious young participant had even suggested that the story could be killed by hurling accusations of racism at conservative figures like Fred Barnes and Karl Rove. Conservatives exploded: The media were colluding to quash bad news about their beloved Obama! Only of course the Wright story was not quashed — unlike the story of Breitbart’s role in Sherrod’s firing, which has been, at least among conservatives.

http://theweek.com/bullpen/column/205190/shirley-sherrod-and-the-shame-of-conservative-media

Could it be that dear Tucker is pissing about Journolist because he was turned down for membership?

Daily Caller, whose editor (Tucker Carlson) asked for membership in the dreaded Journolist — and was turned down — just before it began seriatim publishing of damaging and out-of-context quotes against young writers.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/07/on-todays-hot-media-stories-sherrod-journolist/60210/

Late last night, Jay Rosen + followers trashed Karen Tumulty on twitter over Sherrod stories. So many media names, critics, followers, and whomevers / whatevers out there, hard to keep track. I thought hurling such sim. attacks was Rusty’s M.O.
Who is @jayrosen_nyu and why is he tossing ad hominems against @ktumulty?

Althouse:

Jonathan Strong provides new extracts from the Journolist. I’m struggling to understand exactly what was said and meant, so work through this with me.[...]
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The Daily Caller needs to do a whole lot better with its own journalism if it wants to hit the big time criticizing journalists. This is weak!

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2010/07/liberal-journalists-suggest-government.html

“Yes, it was Barack Obama who edited that videotape of Sherrod”
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Kevin, I believe this is within the powers of the anti-Christ.
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Rusty, since you’re the resident expert on Presidential Apochalyptia, can you confirm this?

“How suprising is this?”
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Not as uprising as discovering that Obama might be the anti-Christ, or are you ready to refute that yet?

Yglesias:

At some point conservatives need to ask themselves about the larger meaning of this kind of conduct—and Andrew Breitbart’s—for their movement. Beyond the ethics of lying and smear one’s opponents, I would think conservatives would worry about the fact that a large portion of conservative media is dedicated to lying to conservatives. They regard their audience as marks to be misled and exploited, not as customers to be served with useful information.

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/07/the-shame-of-the-daily-caller/

Not sure what he said, but Rosen is actually a pretty astute media critic. He’s been advocating rigorous fact-checking of the Sunday morning interview shows, for one.

“little kevin and momento’s distortion of the context of my comments are nothing short of apalling, and slanderous.”
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Here’s the full quote: “I am also not a religious zealot or fundamentalist, but this also REEKS in connections to writings I have read on how the Anti-Christ will take over the world. Just saying. Get out your copies of the Late Great Planet Earth and other various once widely believed science fiction books on the apocalypse. ”
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Here’s the context: http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Status.aspx?username=newfreedomblog
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You may want to look up ‘slander’ in the dictionary, before you bear false witness again.

Have you ever heard of good English food?
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Neither has anybody else.
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This might be the tastiest thing Cameron has had in years.

- from the “growing fatigue” link
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“We could make progress (in Afghanistan) for decades on security, on employment, good governance, women’s rights,” (Senator Richard Lugar) said, without ever reaching “a satisfying conclusion.”
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Got that right. Unless, of course, you’re satisfied by a network of forward bases and decades of entanglement- as is the Pentagon.

Daily Caller has really been offering just amazing insights from the whole Journolist snoozer. The latest shocking revelation is that liberals were excited that Barack Obama was elected in 2008. I know, I know. Stunning stuff.
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http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/21/obama-wins-and-journolisters-rejoice/

Rusty, Part II
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Quote: “He is wanting all of the chaos he is creating to get people to march in the streets. That is when he will implement marshall law and utilize the army against the people. Classic socialism / communism / facism. Take your pick.”
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Context: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/07/16/a-mandate-for-immigration-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-182176
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“By their words, ye shall know them.”

And FAUX runs the correction as “some media outlets…” when they were the ones that started it and got the video up on their website (hell they probably paid and directed it be done) and then had their entertainers (they are certainly not journalists or even communicators) spread the story.

Sort of like the small TV station that breathelessly reported a fire in their 10:00 news as an exclusive report and the next night had the exclusive report that the report from the previous day was without foundation.

Stein:

Gautham Nagesh, a reporter now with The Hill, was an active participant in Journolist discussions while with his previous employer, the Daily Caller. I know because I was also a member of Journolist. Ezra Klein, the founder of the list, and Nagesh himself confirmed his participation…his presence on Journolist during that time period (he joined in March 2009, according to a review of the archives, and left the Caller in April 2010) pushes against the theory that it was a liberal cabal. Even Nagesh admits as much.
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“I joined Journolist after [it was exposed in a Politico article] hoping to get an inside view of the left wing media conspiracy,” he told the Huffington Post. “And unfortunately all I found was a wonkish listserv of like-minded people discussing topics that interested them. I found it extremely useful for putting me in contact with sources and exposing me to a side of the blogosphere I wasn’t well connected with.”
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Why the Caller declined to mention Nagesh’s presence on Journolist in its subsequent stories is unclear.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/21/daily-caller-fails-to-rep_n_654034.html

Nate:

I can’t say that I hold the Daily Caller in much esteem for making a business model out of publishing the contents of supposedly private e-mails from the list-serve Journalist. I have about 10,000 Journolist e-mails in my possession from the roughly 20 months that I was a member of the group. It goes without saying that an organization in possession of these e-mails, as Daily Caller is, would have nearly unlimited degrees of freedom to cut-and-paste evidence together with the aim of either perpetuating a certain narrative or trying to undermine the integrity of a particular journalist. The fact that their revelations seem to be getting more and more trivial perhaps tells you something.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/07/my-life-on-j-list.html

And the ‘Ringleader’, Ezra:

It’s safe to say that the Daily Caller will continue pumping the Journolist story. There are tens of thousands of e-mails in that trove, a lot of people speaking unguardedly, unwisely and impolitically. That’s a lot of grist you can use for various attention-grabbing headlines, and stories full of quotes out of context. There’s not a lot to be done about it, and I won’t be trying to answer every story, or explain every thread. I actually expect this to be my final public comment on the subject.
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What even the Daily Caller’s cherrypicked articles have shown is that Journolist was a long-running argument between people who had different views and different interests. In another wrinkle they haven’t mentioned, Journolist included Gautham Nagesh, a Daily Caller reporter (he’s since moved to The Hill). He frequently disagreed with other members of the list. It also included almost 400-some other people, including grad students, low-level editors, midwestern academics, and many others I’d never met or known of before they joined. If I had thought there was some deep and dark conspiracy to protect, I can guarantee you I would’ve been a bit more selective.
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But there wasn’t. Though the Daily Caller’s headlines suggests the listserv of 400 spoke with one voice, their own reporting, and their own reporters, show that the reality was very different. It just doesn’t fit their agenda to say so.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/07/first_time_as_tragedy_second_t_1.html

The Sun in the Sky: The relationship between
Pakistan’s ISI and Afghan insurgents
Matt Waldman
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(Abstract)
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“Many accounts of the Afghan conflict misapprehend the nature of the relationship between Pakistan’s security services and the insurgency. The relationship, in fact, goes far beyond contact and coexistence, with some assistance provided by elements within, or linked to, Pakistan’s intelligence service (ISI) or military.
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Although the Taliban has a strong endogenous impetus, according to Taliban commanders the ISI orchestrates, sustains and strongly influences the movement. They say it gives sanctuary to both Taliban and Haqqani groups, and provides huge support in terms of training, funding, munitions, and supplies. In their words, this is ‘as clear as the sun in the sky’.
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Directly or indirectly the ISI appears to exert significant influence on the strategic decisionmaking and field operations of the Taliban; and has even greater sway over Haqqani insurgents. According to both Taliban and Haqqani commanders, it controls the most violent insurgent units, some of which appear to be based in Pakistan.
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Pakistan’s apparent involvement in a double-game of this scale could have major geopolitical implications and could even provoke US counter-measures. However, the powerful
role of the ISI, and parts of the Pakistani military, suggests that progress against the Afghan insurgency, or towards political engagement, requires their support.”
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“It’s safe to say that the Daily Caller will continue pumping the Journolist story.”

“One of the news outlets battling for the seat is Fox News, which is currently the only TV-network without a front-row seat. It will ultimately be up to the nine-member White House Correspondents’ Association board to decide who gets the highly coveted placement.

This morning, The Daily Caller’s Jonathan Strong reported how some members of the now defunct Journolist list-serv discussed how Fox News needed to be shut down. One of the participants in the list-serv conversation was Time magazine White House correspondent Michael Scherer, who is also a member of the same White House Correspondents’ Association board that will determine which news outlet will get the vacant front-row seat in the White House briefing room.”

(OMG!! TEH TRIVIAL!! IT BUUURNS!!!)

You can keep your doctor and insurance
It won’t cover abortions
It’s not a tax

Right only Republicans lie– never the Democrats

We were duped just like the Brits. Not.

Iraq inquiry: Saddam posed very limited threat to UK, ex-MI5 chief says

The former MI5 director general Eliza Manningham-Buller today delivered a withering assessment of the case for war against Iraq, saying it had significantly increased the terrorist threat to Britian.

Giving evidence to the Chilcot inquiry, Manningham-Buller said the threat posed by Saddam Hussein before the US-led invasion in 2003 was low.

But the toppling of Saddam allowed Osama bin Laden to gain a stronghold in Iraq and radicalised young Muslims in Britain, she said.

In evidence that undermined the case for war presented by the former prime minister Tony Blair, she was asked whether it was feared Saddam could have linked terrorists to weapons of mass destruction, facilitating their use against the west.

“It certainly wasn’t of concern in either the short term or the medium term to me or my colleagues,” she replied.

Manningham-Buller said the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan had radicalised parts of a generation of Muslims who saw the military actions as an “attack on Islam”.

She added that, prior to the Iraq invasion, the prospect of it fuelling terrorism in the UK had been communicated through joint intelligence committee reports. She said she had also spoken to the home secretary about the risk.

Manningham-Buller was damning about the impact of the invasion on Iraq, saying the toppling of Saddam had allowed Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida to move in. “Arguably, we gave Osama bin Laden his Iraqi jihad,” she added. …

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/20/iraq-inquiry-saddam-mi5-chief

Surprising is it not that grape_crush is posting the exact same people who have colluded and connived to distort truth and facts in the media.
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Yes indeed, very inspiring. One only needs to read the actual emails which are posted on the Daily Caller to see for themselves as to what was going on.
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But good try grapey. Having the accused declare their innocence is nothing new in our country. Now all we need to do is figure out who the real liars are.
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Why not ask Michael Scherer or Joe Klien to post a few of their emails, so we can all read their sordid tales?

“Who is @jayrosen_nyu and why is he tossing ad hominems against @ktumulty?”

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Someone who knows Tumulty and what a big shill she is for the liberal agenda of Barack HUSSEIN Obama?
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Harder to swallow than that hot dog, Mr. Mayor:

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/make-it-happen-on-purpose/

Funny, first freeinpa and Rusty show up at the exact same time (10ish), then are gone for an hour, and now show back up at the same time (shortly after 11).
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It’s almost like they’re the same person.

Surprising is it not that grape_crush is posting the exact same people…
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Frum and Althouse were on that listserv group?
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As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about, but you sure like being lied to, Rustyblog…

LOL@freeinpa
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Don’t you love how they need to resort to name calling like a bunch of wet behind the ears 3rd graders out on the playground?
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Democrat Party Desperation. I simply love it!!!
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Next up, liberal lesson #1, How to oppose a conservative voice, just call them a RACIST

I am waiting for them to get into their circle-jerks and start up their firing squads. That should be real amusing.

Rusty~
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I wonder, what exactly do you believe is Mr. Obama’s motivation for his policies? What ends do his means seek to create, in your opinion?

It’s the conservo-list kevie. We know when garbage is plastered on the internet, and we send out emails to go refute all of your lies.

So, you want to reduce the deficit?

“‘There is all this concern about the deficit,’ said Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., a leading champion of the proposal. ‘Well, guess what, this would reduce the deficit because it saves so much money.’ Woolsey and her allies, including Reps. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois and Fortney ‘Pete’ Stark of California, are armed with a new analysis by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. It projects the public option could save the federal government $68 billion between 2014 an 2020, according to Democrats.

A government plan could save money with lower administrative costs and by paying hospitals and doctors less than commercial insurance plans, analysts have said; that could result in lower premiums and lower government subsidies for Americans who choose that plan over plans offered by commercial insurers. “

Oh, I’m nowhere near done with Rustyblog yet.

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I feel proud that I am the focus of your rage. I just know you want to utter “Racist”…..go for it grapey!! Join your brethern on the darkside.

Is the conservo-list what made you adopt your multiple personalities, like RustyReturns and Newfreedumb?

I’ve never seen a hot dog stand in that area of Foley Square. And the kerning on the pretzel sign looks suspicious. I think its a photoshop job.

We know when garbage is plastered on the internet…
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Ah, so Rusty/free/earl/3x does read his own posts. But does he read anyone else’s?

Supporting small business.

“Wrangling over the small-business measure began in earnest after Senate Democrats, breaking a two-month partisan logjam, finally succeeded in winning an extension of unemployment insurance. The vote was 59 to 39, with two Republicans joining Democrats in support of the extended benefits, which are retroactive to June 1. One Democrat, Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska, voted against it.”

Here is one more knee slapper:

Obama: I am a friend of business

“The Obama administration is backing legislation that includes regulations requiring U.S. businesses to provide to the government data about employee pay as it relates to the sex, race and national origin of employees.”

As long as I can regulate them to death!

Next up, liberal lesson #1, How to oppose a conservative voice, just call them a RACIST
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No, Rusty, you get called a racist because you say racist things. The fact that you’re a conservative has nothing to do with it.
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Exiled here is a conservative too. But unlike you, he’s never said anything racist here, and so he doesn’t get called a racist.

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“Taxes” paid by Businesses, wealthy investors
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and ‘over-paid’ Millionaires—-
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‘ALL’—derive from, ‘profits’, and the often
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exorbitant prices consumers pay for goods and
services!
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This ‘limits’ the purchasing power of the ‘working class’
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thus diminishing the potential growth of an economy!
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Yet; after prices are increased to defray these “taxes”,
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the “Businesses”, wealthy, and the Over-paid millionaires
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want to ‘keep’ this money instead of paying their “taxes”!
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This is the formula for developing a Plutocracy!
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An example of what happens when you fail to go big.

“Ms. Warren, who is a candidate to lead the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau created under the far-reaching financial regulatory legislation signed by President Obama on Wednesday, said the bailout program had been successful in averting an economic collapse, but she too was critical about the way the mortgage-modification program had been handled.

‘Fifteen months into this program, for every one family that appears to have made it to a permanent modification that’s likely to stabilize that family in that home, 10 more have been moved out through foreclosure,’ she said. ‘This is a program that’s just — it’s behind the curve.’

Asked by Senator Max Baucus, Democrat of Montana and chairman of the Finance Committee, why the program was not working, Ms. Warren said: ‘It’s too slow. It’s too small.’

She noted that the program was based upon fees paid to servicers to renegotiate mortgage terms.

‘In many cases, the servicers can continue to make more money if the family goes through foreclosure,’ she said.”

Everything that I am against, Exiled.
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Obama wants a bigger more controlling Federal Government. He wants higher taxes so he can grow the monster even more.
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He wants to chip away at the Constitution taking away our individual rights. Point of example, the healthcare mandate which will require all Americans to purchase healthcare insurance.
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Over regulating. He wants an inept government to be in control of our day to day businesses. The reason this economy will not recover is due to the fact Obama and his croonies have crafted legislation which will restrict even more how our businesses and industries do their business. All of these hoops they are making business jump through will stop the creation of jobs. This is evidenced by the amount of money which is reported to be sitting on the side-lines instead of being spent to help with the recovery. Despite over a trillion dollars being spent to date, businesses are holding back. They are not hiring. They are not providing jobs.
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And last but not least, Obama is a major spender. He has doubled the deficit since coming into office. Spent to a level never seen before. Our children and grandchildren will never see the end of his spending if he is allowed to continue. In doing what he has been doing un-checked by the Democrat Party controlled Congress, we risk the total collaspe of this country and our way of life. I firmly believe he is doing this on purpose, and wants to see this country in complete chaos.
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Obama’s collectivism training is showing up in each of his proposals for change. Change which I am confident the majority of those who believed him did not want to see happen.
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Why the fast pace for all of this change, Exiled? Why have we seen so much from this President in 19 short months? What are his goals in your mind?

Ayn Rand said verbatim the only functions of a govt. should be the army, police, and courts. She praised the pirate in Atlas Shrugged for stealing taxes back – all of them – and returning them to rightful owners. So how does even this limited govt. pay for itself without taxes? I don’t remember reading her answer; where / what is it? Never mind the anarchy that would result, but I digress.

“Taxes are the admission price for residing in a country.”

Rev Jim I see more evidence why you dropped out. I seem to recall that the 16th amendment was not passed until 1913. The country managed to survive without a general income tax for 137 years. I also seem to remember we revolted against an imperial government for taxes and the price of admission to this country was blood not taxes.

I guess you are advocating rounding up all the illegal aliens since they have not paid their admission ticket according to you or is there a free lunch after all!

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“Who have gained the most from America?”

America– People do not come to this country legally and illegally because of the entitlements that the left pushes but for the opportunities that the left insist does not exist or is unfairly available only to the wealthy. Another myth in the liberal history of America. Their quest for more money, other people’s money, is to buy power and and elections by handing out entitlements or trying to enforce equal outcome not equal opportunity

I feel proud that I am the focus of your rage.
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Oh, don’t flatter yourself, you’re not that important…you’re a joke whose only utility is to serve as a means of debunking the latest right-wing faux-trage.

Exiled, Rusty also thinks Obama might be the anti-Christ who plans on declaring ‘marshall law’.
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So its either the stuff above, that he probably copypasted from RedState before they kicked him out, or its the whole marshall law declaring anti-Christ thing. I guess it depends on which Rusty shows up, and how honest he’s being about what he REALLY thinks.

“Daily Caller has really been offering just amazing insights from the whole Journolist snoozer. The latest shocking revelation is that liberals were excited that Barack Obama was elected in 2008″
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More of the left’s there is nothing to see move along defense. Its a snoozer that evidence by their own hand is shown that the MSM are leftist lap dogs and biased. Not only were they glad to see Obama elected they carried the water to assure he did.

Just another rrendition of the left’s lyin’ cheatin’ hearts.

Between the stalking antics of momentoad, little kevie and pattysartor this is becoming concerning. Why do they comment on everything I say?
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You people should go get a job.

Late last night, Jay Rosen + followers trashed Karen Tumulty on twitter over Sherrod stories. So many media names, critics, followers, and whomevers / whatevers out there, hard to keep track. I thought hurling such sim. attacks was Rusty’s M.O. Who is @jayrosen_nyu and why is he tossing ad hominems against @ktumulty?”

Who am I? http://bit.ly/2Tli2Q That’s my disclosure post.

And if I may, who are you? You have a fake name here, and your Twitter feed gives no clue to who you are, what you do, or what your perspective is.

Any qualms about demanding to know who I am when a.) the answer is easily available from Google and b.) no one has any idea of who you are or where you are coming from?

I have a comment replying to your anonymous insinuations at the tom-vilsack-apologizes post on Swampland. It’s been awaiting moderation for more than an hour. In the meantime, I suggest you look up what ad hominem means. You seem to have no clue.

“You can keep your doctor and insurance.”
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How about if I said this to you, “you will not get arrested for DWI for drinking coffee” then you go out, drink a bottle of whiskey, bring along a cup of coffee and get a DWI. Would you say that I lied?
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The Administration said that the legislation will not cause you to change your doctor or insurance company. Your company paying for the insurance and your doctor themselves will, still, be able to force you to change doctors or insurance companies.
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“It won’t cover abortions.”
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The legislation will not mandate that the insurance will cover abortions.
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If your employer chooses an insurance plan which covers abortions, then it will cover abortions.
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So, we do not have lies.
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If Obama says, “I will not take away your guns” and your wife takes away your guns and sells, will you say that Obama lied, again?
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Logic is not one of your strong points.

Maybe we can put Sheila Jackson Lee in charge of Afghanistan since she has a wonderful understanding of the world (and geography).

She continued, “Today, we have two Vietnams, side by side, North and South, exchanging and working. We may not agree with all that North Vietnam is doing, but they are living in peace. I would look for a better human rights record for North Vietnam, but they are living side by side.”
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The left continually makes fun of Palin for her remarks but here we have a senior member on the Foreign Relations Ctm. The difference Demos elect thier jokes!

But there’s always room for a tax cut, right Kent?

“A fiscally conservative Democrat who chairs the U.S. Senate’s budget committee on Wednesday said he supports extending all of the tax cuts that expire this year, including for the wealthy.

‘The general rule of thumb would be you’d not want to do tax changes, tax increases … until the recovery is on more solid ground,’ Senator Kent Conrad said in an interview with reporters outside the Senate chambers, adding he did not believe the recovery has come yet.

Conrad’s comments are sympathetic with Republican arguments against raising taxes amid a fledgling economic recovery. They frame a debate gaining steam over whether stimulus to bolster the economy’s recovery, or deficit reduction, should be the top policy priority.”

Its a snoozer that evidence by their own hand is shown that the MSM are leftist lap dogs and biased.
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Did you even click on the link? The journalists on there who are making comments about how excited they are about the election of Obama are from American Prospect, Mother Jones, Harper’s, Center for American Progress, etc. etc.
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Is it really news that liberal journalists from liberal publications took a liberal attitude to the election? Do you think when George W. Bush won the presidency in 2000 that their counterparts at Weekly Standard, NRO, Human Events, AEI, etc. didn’t express the exact same opinions in their private email?
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Yawn. Go talk to one of your other personalities about this, because when not even Ann Althouse is biting, you know it’s a nonstory.

Rusty,
I agree that he, obviously, favors broader government intervention, regulation, and oversight over society and industry. This is not all that uncommon given his political leanings and his party affiliation. It’s par for the course and not at all shocking.
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Where we deviate, however, is on the issue of motivation. You suggest that he is intentionally seeking to undermine the Constitution. You’ve further argued in the past that he is purposely seeking to bring down the American economy. Essentially, you seem to suggest that he is anti-American, with the end goal being the destruction of our stability? For what purpose, so that he may rebuild America in his own vision, presumably, in your opinion, a socialist state?
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Are you a Pat Robertson fan? I was watching him last night speaking about a former classmate of Obama who argues that he his implementing a plan conceived by a Harvard professor to overregulate the economy, forcing it’s collapse so that a socialist system can be put in place. Robertson asked for prayers to prevent this. You sound eerily like Robertson…never a sign of a healthy state of mind.

Under the snoozer title of the Journolist:

“JournoList contributors discussed strategies to aid Mr. Obama by deflecting the controversy. They went public with a letter criticizing an ABC interview of Mr. Obama that dwelled on his association with Mr. Wright. Then, Spencer Ackerman of The Washington Independent proposed attacking Mr. Obama’s critics as racists.”
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Its a snoozer because conservative have known for years the MSM are lapdog liberals and race baiters. This just confirms it

It’s nice to see that you and others have grabbed their swords.
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I’m lovin’ it…

“He wants higher taxes so he can grow the monster even more.”
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Talk about misattribution!
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Since the alternatives are to spend our grandchildren’s money now or to evacuate our troops from both wars or raise taxes, Obama finds raising taxes on those who can most afford it the least painful and the most appropriate.
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“Point of example, the healthcare mandate which will require all Americans to purchase healthcare insurance.”
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Correction. There is a tax increase on businesses which will be brought back in a tax break if your company does have health insurance. Just like their is a tax break when you own a home, when you marry and when you have children.
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According to your thinking, the government is requiring me to marry, knock her up and buy house right now! I hope they don’t find out that I am still seeking the right woman, haven’t knocked any women up and live in an apartment I rent. Please don’t tell them!
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“Over regulating. He wants an inept government to be in control of our day to day businesses. ”
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He is bringing back some – not all – but some of the Glass Stegal Act which was in effect from 1933 until 1999. Business thrived a huge majority of those 66 years.
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“The reason this economy will not recover is due to the fact Obama and his croonies have crafted legislation which will restrict even more how our businesses and industries do their business. All of these hoops they are making business jump through will stop the creation of jobs. ”
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“Coonies”? Are you accusing the administration of hiring Tony Benet to sing? I guess you mean cronies, not crooners.
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So, you’re telling us that, since there may be more paperwork to do, CEOs of large corporations are pouting, standing around with their arms folded and refusing to enter profitable deals to make money for their shareholders since they are angry with Obama?
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Moronic! If there is honest money to be made, the job creation shall begin.
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“This is evidenced by the amount of money which is reported to be sitting on the side-lines instead of being spent to help with the recovery.”
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Businesses do not spend money to help the economy recover. Businesses spend money seeking profit. Consumer spending is so low that businesses can not foresee a profit from investing their money and, therefore, those businesses are not creating jobs.
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“And last but not least, Obama is a major spender. He has doubled the deficit since coming into office. Spent to a level never seen before. ”
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Outright lie!
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You have seen the numbers here over and over again that Obama’s spending is not anywhere near the peak in US history and not significantly more than your man Dubbya spent.
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The deficit was brought to us almost exclusively by your man Dubbya.
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“Our children and grandchildren will never see the end of his spending if he is allowed to continue.”
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Unless we pay for the spending by raising taxes on those who can most afford it.
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” In doing what he has been doing un-checked by the Democrat Party controlled Congress, we risk the total collaspe of this country and our way of life.”
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It sounds like the kind of gloom and doom of Jim Jones in Guyana right before they drank the Kool Aid.
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” I firmly believe he is doing this on purpose, and wants to see this country in complete chaos.”
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I firmly believe that you are mentally ill.

Exiled_At_Home,
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I happy to know that sane conservative is not a an oxymoron and has not yet gone extinct.
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Thank you for posting.

Actually, decon is one of our regulars, Jay. Tumulty ended up being one of the better bloggers here at Swampland, and so there’s a bit of residual protective-ness.
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And decon? I’m looking at Rosen’s Twitter feed and can’t see much trashing/ad hominem going on. Can you link to what you are talking about?
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It’s been awaiting moderation for more than an hour.
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Ha! Welcome to Swampland…one link per comment please and be mind the swear words.

“Oh, he’s a LaRoucher…”
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He’s a cretin:

Since taxes are the peoples money, tax cuts do not add to the deficit, spending does.

Possibly Unwanted Commentary But Hell Why Not?
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The last four weeks have been consumed by a battle I have fought for three plus years on Swampland.
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I hope that when the battle ends, racially inflammatory commentary will be put back in the Pandora’s box that was opened when uncivil politics became the new “normal”.
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I hope soon that the filthy roaches (freeinpa, Rusty, et al) either finally realize that it is not necessary to indulge in racially inflammatory statements in order to get their points across about taxation, smaller government, and the place of government in our lives.
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I think, after 35 years, the acceptance of embarrassing conduct by some people who happen to have the same complexion I do are coming to a close…

Mr Rosen, decondiva wannabe, is nothing more than a gutter-snipe of the lowest denominator. He/she will attack you for no reason what-so-ever. Or, will create these fictional claims questioning your motives in particular about favorite journalists. Tumulty being one of those.
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I know, I have been part of his/her attacks as well. But, good luck in trying to identify this individual. They simply spew out garbage and attacks and then run to hide behind their ficticious names. I basically ignore them or pick up their crap and fling it right back at them.
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But it does get concerning when they start to stalk you. I have one in particular on here a patricksartor who has even threaten me by saying “I’ll put him in my crosshairs”.
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Good luck tho in having TIME.com do anything about them, they also have their monitors set to ignore.

“The country managed to survive without a general income tax for 137 years.”
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However, it did not provide highways, the FBI, aid to states, aid to cities and towns for police, fire and schools or, during most of that period, a standing army capable of repelling a foreign invader until war was declared and had far, far, higher whiskey, tobacco and import taxes than today among other unfair means of taxation.
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“I also seem to remember we revolted against an imperial government for taxes and the price of admission to this country was blood not taxes.”
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I seem to remember a rebellion against not being allowed to vote for the English Parliament who determined our taxes as well as many other laws, but no rebellion against all taxes ever in the history of the US.
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There was the Whiskey Rebellion during George Washington’s administration, but, outside of that small group of drunken lunatics, who did support other taxes, we never had a movement against all taxes.
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“I guess you are advocating rounding up all the illegal aliens since they have not paid their admission ticket according to you or is there a free lunch after all!”
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I do not believe in having police ignore rapes, murders, child molesters, arsonists, stalkers, thieves, con artists, drug dealers, drunk drivers, the mentally ill or even reckless drivers to round up undocumented workers.
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I do believe that deportations are acceptable under many circumstances done by ICE rather than the police we need for regular law enforcement.
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“…since they have not paid their admission ticket according to you or is there a free lunch after all..”
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Nearly all undocumented workers work over the table using other people’s social security card and pay taxes. For about half a century the IRS has special forms for undocumented workers to pay their federal and state income taxes.
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I do believe that all people who work under the table, if they are undocumented workers, legal immigrants or native born Americans should be charged with tax evasion since there is no such thing as a free lunch.
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Actually, I agree with all of those laws which are there now and have been for more than half a century before my birth regarding taxes and immigration.
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You want to go back to 1900 or earlier.
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Enjoy the ride back in time, but watch out for the horse manure. It’s almost as disgusting as the manure you put on the page.

I’m putting my money down on the real conservatives here – Exiled, apollyon07 and a few others.
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They may differ, but we can discuss.
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I hope more like them show up here. I am tired of race, and I would love to be able to move on to real issues in real time…

“I hope soon that the filthy roaches (freeinpa, Rusty, et al) either finally realize that it is not necessary to indulge in racially inflammatory statements in order to get their points across”

The bold faced type aside, after 35 years you still lie to yourself tat any disagreement about policies is racially motivated. Yet you ignore the fact that the true race baiters remain on the left:

“”JournoList contributors discussed strategies to aid Mr. Obama by deflecting the controversy. They went public with a letter criticizing an ABC interview of Mr. Obama that dwelled on his association with Mr. Wright. Then, Spencer Ackerman of The Washington Independent proposed attacking Mr. Obama’s critics as racists.”

Your outrage is as misguided as your beliefs

No Exiled I have never watched or even been in the same room as Pat Robertson, I didn’t even support him when he was running for President many years ago.
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Some of what I do say is a tab bit over the top, in order to get the Obamabots all riled up as you can see and witness by the comment after comment by momentoad. People like him are so easliy played with.
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But seriously, I have read up on much of Obama’s former associations, and I do believe his idea of change is nothing near what most Americans believe is the type of change this country needs.
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We have had discussions before, and I know you lean towards a neo-socialist type of Government, or a Government which is heavily socialized for such things like healthcare, and having read alot of your very own comments know you believe in more government regulation against the “big Corporatists” bogeymen. So I am not surprised you would favor Obama’s agenda. I just worry when too much is not good, and I firmly believe we have reached that point and more.
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Whether it ends in a collaspe, which is very possible or if we turn into the United States of European-like governments is the question. None-the-less it shall be an interesting ride on the way there.

Keep in mind Jay that Rusty has impeccable creds:
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He was kicked off RedState for hate speech, and admonished twice by pundits here for race baiting.
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You will either love him or hate him…

No, on the contrary freeinpa, the more you push your agenda, and ignore what I’ve stated about the separation of conservative issues and racially inflammatory statements, you’ll find yourself seen for what you really are.
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You hadn’t noticed? Take a look at the last four weeks posts. At several points, the heat was so bad you wouldn’t even show your filthy mug.
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I know you know. And soon…

Oh, btw, freeinpa, since you seem to feel that the coast is clear, perhaps now might be a good time as any to post the reasons (you referred to them as “principles”) why you do not want conservative Black constituents…

Practice what you preach and perhaps your wish may come true someday

anoracle,
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Yes, business taxes do result in lower business spending on goods, salaries, higher prices or both.
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For salaries, who’s can afford to get cut?
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The higher the salary the easier it is to make a cut and still not scare away the employee.
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When those taxes get passed onto consumer, who consumes the most?
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The wealthiest.
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As for taxing the wealthiest workers (I didn’t use any term similar to “overpaid” – I discussing economics and not making judgments about hypothetical people’s hypothetical pay) your reasoning would follow that, as soon as there is a tax increase well paid employees walk into the CEO’s office and get proportional pay raises as easily as they can get a mint of his receptionists desk.
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100% false.
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Who pays the most for higher prices compensating for higher corporate taxes?
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The wealthiest.
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When individuals are taxed, how do other individuals loose out?
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They don’t.

Well, Rusty, I practice what I preach. I don’t post racially inflammitory statements. You do.

Thank you for coming by to add to the discussion, Prof Rosen.
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I hope that you will join us again at some point, so that you can experience how deconstructiva has added to the conversation about the press corps, and called just as strongly as you have for pro writers’ engagement with news users as one way to overcome the problems of journalism.

You don’t have to believe me, Rusty.
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Ask the Black community how you should be measured!

Words have consequenses. Note the words come from Beck. Tides Foundation target of antigovernment shooter in Oakland. The Foundation has been the subject of Beck’s rants.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/07/the_nasty_of_the_nastiest.php?ref=fpblg

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Is it really news that liberal journalists from liberal publications took a liberal attitude to the election?”

No not a surprise, but neither is your attempt to overlook others on the list:

Erza Klein – WaPo
Jeff Toobin – CNN
Krugamn- nYT
Joe Klein – Time
Walter Shapiro- USA Today
Joe Conanson- NY Observer

Unless of course you are finally admitting the truth that these publication (and others) are liberal rags run by liberal writers (journalist is the wrong term)?

Keep spinning, the ruts are getting deeper

Typical.
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Watch Rusty and freeinpa remain totally silent…

I wasn’t kicked off Red State for hate speech, I simply called one of their ding-bats a RINO.
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My “admonishment” from the aforemention journos was nothing to do with race baiting at all. I am guilty of posting the experience and education of an unknown before, intern who was portrayed as a “guest blogger”. A big difference. I merely questioned her qualifications to make such drivel comments about a topic I am sure she does not have the experience or maturity to comment on or to even know the first thing about what she was babbling about.
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So far as Tumulty’s admonishment, she is a shill for the left and she knows it. She just got mad that I called her out on it.

“The left continually makes fun of Palin for her remarks but here we have a senior member on the Foreign Relations Ctm. The difference Demos elect thier jokes!”
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We had to partial wars both including slightly limited drafts and did not involve rationing nor air raid drills in a row against Asian countries right after World War II.
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Yes, mistaking the name of one country for another when all they have in common is the same continent and a fight against communism by the US in common is a dumb mix up of words.
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Palin does something far different than just gaffs by mistaking the name of one country for another. She makes statements clearly indicating that she never had any or any in depth knowledge of situations.
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Some gaffs are funnier than others.
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On a scale of one to ten in how much it make me chuckle, I would give that one a 2.
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Biden for FDR responding to the 1929 stock market crash would be about a 5.
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Dan Quayle at the United Negro College fund “It is a terrible thing to loose your mind… or not to have one” is a 9.

“freeinpa, since you seem to feel that the coast is clear”

The coast is never clear from low IQ racists like you.
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.” I don’t post racially inflammitory statements”

Another delusional belief that helps you justify your behavior

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“why you do not want conservative Black constituents”

Another idiotic “IQ53 fact” Conservatives welcome other conservatives regardless of race, sex, or creed. Unlike the Congressional Black Congress who would not seat conservative congressman. Despite the rantings of loons well like you the Tea Party is composed over over 25% minorities ( and growing).

Oh poor IQ53. Just admit you hate your white self and anything which represents the white community. I do believe when you seek out professional help and counseling, you shall discover this self-hate identity you hide behind will be your own personal epiphany just like Ms Sherrod had 20 something years ago.
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I just wouldn’t go in front of many video cameras during the discovery of yourself. You may end up just like her.

The shooter and IQ53 are evidence of whachos on both sides.

The current difference is police stopped the one on the right and the left is filling an administration with the ones on the left

I thought Cameron was the queen’s official taste tester

53_3,
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I am getting a little tired of Freeinpa, new rusty and the wingnuts, too.
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It’s like playing Jeopardy with the criminally insane.
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OTOH, I do not want a complete echo chamber, either. Give me a well thought out conservative idea presented well without dumb, third grade insults or “my dad can beat your dad” and that would interesting.
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I am glad Earl is no longer posting after everybody explained to him that none of us believe that he is a doctor or anybody other than a guy living in his mother’s basement who says he is going into surgery when his mother wants to use her own computer.
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3X… I had some hope for him, but, he is just a wingnut, too.

That was one of your best ever freeinpa. LOL, I love it.

Daily Caller’s Tucker Carlson has quite a pedigree. The prissy, elitist Carlson was booted from CNN (thank you Jon Stewart), MSNBC and Dancing with the stars (first on out). What a stellar career. As for journalistic cred, when he had a show at MSNBC, he spent weeks defending Scooter Libby as a victim, never revealing that his daddy led Libby’s legal fund.
I am usually a rational person. However, when I see Carlson I just want to smack his smug little face.

“the heat was so bad you wouldn’t even show your filthy mug”

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LOL I see IQ53 has found humor. Heat from leftist here?

Bwhahaha!

BTW, not that’s its any of your business, I was away doing what I have done for the past 3 years. I drove 2 young black basketball players from North Phila. to a tournament. They slept in my room, I fed them three meals a day with my own money. One has come away from this with a full ride to a top ACC school the offer has an offer from a Division I school in New England.

I know I don’t have YOUR expertise in the Black Community so I must be doing it wrong. After all I spent my own money and two great kids have EARNED a free education through their hard work. I am sure it pales to the good you have done through extorted taxpayer money and forced affirmative action programs. That’s over 20 kids in 3 years with full scholarships. But heck it pales with YOUR knowledge

Rusty,
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First of all, let me applaud you for distancing yourself from Robertson.
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However, you’re still delusional if you think that I “favor Obama’s agenda.” That I tend to defend the man’s sincerity against the more lurid accusations should in no way imply that I support his policies. You can go on and on with your crack-pot theories about my neo-socialist tendencies, it’s merely a deflection because you cannot withstand critique of your brand of conservatism from another conservative. I do lean libertarian on many issues, and I do ascribe to social justice theory, however, conservative thought does not fit in your closed off box. Where you feel the need to label everything and draw inpenetrable lines in the sand, lines that corral you into a grotesque perversion of conservatism on many issues, I instead recognize the pragmatism of conservatism, the ability to evolve institutions and allow social meanderings, just not on a revolutionary scale akin to liberal-socialist thought.

Thank you for joining us Mr. Rosen. I would be happy to see a dialogue between you and deconstructvia. De uses an alias, like most on this site. I think most of us believe it is a matter of security. There are a few extremists on this site. De is a positve and valuable commentator on Swampland. I hope you can solve your differences. By the way, I have read your opinions in the past on Huff Post and more often than not agree.

The other thing which is not only quaint, but laughingly stupid is someone like IQ53 and april2563 who are now all aghast at the thought some loosely held together wacko on the right may try to blow up one of their bastions of liberal hate towards anything non-liberal, and a spread the wealth factory creating more IQ53′s and april2563′s.
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They in their effort to combat the TEA Party by calling us all racists back in March, and their use of the media as a way to stop any questioning of their “Savior”, instead has backfired on them. They have unleashed the genie they do not know how to now control. It is all flying back into their faces.
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Now, they will peg someone who is obviously disturbed to connect that poor insane individual with all of us who are not only against them vehemently, but want Obama stopped.
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But, what the aprils of the liberal world do not know is that we profess non-violent measures of protest. The same tactics used by MLK and other more prominent men and women of the 1960′s. We shall march, we shall shout, we shall even make signs depicting Obama as a socialist-wannabe.
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There have not been any videos of protesters from the right who have broken windows, torn up business after business at the G-20 summits. No, but these get little attention from the left and their propaganda media machine. As long as they attack and destroy the so called capitalist, it is ok by them. There have been allegations of racial epithets called out to Black Congressmen, but where is the video proof? There isn’t any.
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They vilify Sarah Palin on almost a daily basis, attack her family and what does TIME.com do? They post more and more to enrage their base of support. Using them like pawns to sell more magazines or get more hits on their site.
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Have I been over the top in some of my comments? Absolutely, just like they have been. They have incited just as many wackos as Glenn Beck. The guy who flew the plane into the building in Texas was one of theirs. Did you hear april2563 yelling out against his actions? Nope. She merely tried to pin him onto the TEA Party or Conservatives. When in fact he was one of them. Do you hear their outrage about the G-20 protesters? Nope. How about the Code Pinkers? Nope. The New Black Panthers? Nope, nada, zilch. In fact they support them lock, stock and barrel.
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The IQ53′s and April2563′s are nothing more than little pawns of the left. They THINK they talk a big game, but when it starts to get tough, you’ll not see hide nor hair of them. Smoke in the liberal fire. Gone.

53_3: I would like to believe the bigots are on their way out. The day Obama won the primary, the day he was elected and the day of his inaguration, I wept. Having been around through the years of lynching and Jim Crow, I never expected to see a black person elected to the Presidency. So many suffered and died to get to those events.
I knew the racists would feel a surge of hatred and increase the volume of their invective. But, I didn’t realize how many of the “establishment” voices would join the invective.
I believe they will eventually destroy themselves and slink back to the murky environs where they live. They can’t destroy the fact that we have made progress and will continue to do so. Keep the faith.

I’m sure the Foreign Relations Committee has an excellent understanding of geography..
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Iraq had enormous geostrategic importance… Located in the middle of the Gulf region and featuring easily navigable terrain, it offered a perfect bully base of operations..
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Iraq provides expanding lines of operations, interior lines of communications, and all the other operational artistry that goes with a central base of operations. The Bananastans provide us with exterior position. Exterior bases of operation provide converging lines of operations, and when we combine the land bases in Bananastan and Iraq with our maritime posture in the Indian Ocean, we have more than sufficient geostrategic leverage on Iran..
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What I can’t figure out is how Pavlov’s dogs of war have managed to convince so many people that the Iranians are worth expending American national effort against.
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- Pavlov’s Dogs of War Revisited

“I would like to believe the bigots are on their way out.”

No the likes of you and IQ53 will remain as will your bigotry. You confirmed it with your own words, “I knew the racists would feel a surge of hatred and increase the volume of their invective”. Any disagreement about policy was immediately met by folks like you and IQ53 as racist and not that the policy sucked (and they do). Your own bigotry came to that conclusion without any other consideration. While the nation was able to elect a black man (although voter regret is rampant), the racial infrastructure cannot accept that disagreements are not racial otherwise their very existence and life focus is over.

I cried the night Obama was elected too. I knew that our freedoms would be trimmed, our country in danger and our wealth re-distributed. The loons are now running the asylum.

Thanks sy2d.
The Brits show courage through their conduct in the Chilcot inquiry. Their openness is commendable; here with Director Manningham-Buller.
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We are unwilling to examine past conduct in order to better prepare for future challenges. We seem satisfied that looking_forward_never_back will yield different results from the same actions.

we profess..The same tactics used by MLK and other more prominent men and women..
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..like Saul Alinsky.

You are confusing Saul Alinsky and the Weathermen Underground again, pintortwo with the peaceful activism of MLK and Gandhi.
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Totally different objectives and outcomes.
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What you are seeing and witnessing current leadership of the Democrat Party and Barack Obama is the Saul Alinsky tactics as used and studied profusely by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. What we haven’t seen yet is the influence on Obama by his pals from the Weathermen Underground. I believe that is yet to come.
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You may want to go and refresh yourself on the Weathermen Underground Manifesto. It paints a really ugly picture. Do you need a link?
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But, stay tuned. It will get interesting!!

“53_3: I would like to believe the bigots are on their way out.”

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Oh no don’t leave april2563, I’m just getting started with you my dear.

“Ha! Welcome to Swampland…one link per comment please and be mind the swear words.”
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Seriously? I swear all the time and only get moderated once in a blue moon. I do subscribe to the dead tree TIME so maybe they’re a little more forgiving with me.

I have an idea, Exiled. Refresh us on your theories one more time. Oh and you didn’t answer my questions. Not fair!!

“I cried the night Obama was elected too.”
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The night Obama won, right after the results came in I went down to one of the neighborhood bars and stayed out until 4:00 as people stayed and watched the celebration on TV and bought each other drinks.
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It was a fun night out and I rarely drink.
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It reminded me of seeing the clips of when the Berlin Wall came down. Basically everybody around was thrilled.
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Of course that 53% of the vote was not enough for you since you on the right always believe that you know it all and you with your 21% are the only smart ones on the planet who know far more than even people who make careers out of studying the sciences, economics or, like me, actually are self employed.
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I bet the Stasi cried when the Berlin Wall came down.

“But, stay tuned. It will get interesting!”
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LOL
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About as interesting as the Unibomber’s manifesto if it comes from you and your twisted view of history.
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You are to MLK what Joseph McCarthy was to liberals.
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Marching does not mean that you and all of your followers are peaceful.
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You want to know my theories? On what? Bigfoot? Lochness monster? Pearl Harbor? 9/11?
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As for your question, which I presume was where you asked for my thoughts on Obama’s motives, it’s simple. I can’t say for sure what drives Mr. Obama, though I’m sure it’s not the destruction of America. I do think that he has a vision of government that is nauseating, one that suggests that government can control social behavior through manipulation, subtle pressures, and myriad other tactics. Essentially, he seems to believe that it is the role of government to act as a father to the people, nurturing characteristics that he deems of ideal value. TIME did a story on this last year about his team of behavioral scientists who help him craft polices aimed at inducing people to respond a certain way. Though TIME glorified the initiative, they also unwittingly presented the evidence I needed to ensure I never cast my support behind this President.

“like me, actually are self employed”

I don’t think that is the term for college dropouts that fail at everything they try– You are confusing a loser for self-employed

Amazing that the stooges of the left always have a ready supply of KKK tapes going back in years but can never seem to find racism among their ranks

So much for race baiting right pattysartor? Good job, I knew I could count on you!! You are the man!!

Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard, too.

Watch and see if they break property?
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They don’t.
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As I said, a peaceful march does not mean that they are a peaceful group marching.
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Using your thinking that, if the Tea Party can march on Washington without having a riot, they must be a 100% great group of folks, then you would, also, be saying that the cross burning is done by “a few lunatics” in the KKK.
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IOW You have not successfully refuted that Tea Partiers fly airplanes into buildings or get into gunfights with police because your marches were peaceful.

“(A) funny thing happened on the way to Alinsky taking a place alongside top contemporary conservative bogeymen like Michael Moore, George Soros and Jane Fonda. His seminal 1971 guide to organizing, “Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals,” became a must-read for a new wave of conservative activists who mobilized — many for the first time — in opposition to the ambitious, big-government agenda pushed by President Obama and the Democratic Congress.
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Suddenly, the book was being touted as a way to beat the left at its own game by everyone from 69-year-old former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, whose nonprofit group FreedomWorks has emerged as a leading Washington bulwark for the tea party movement, to 25-year-old James O’Keefe, the self-styled activist investigative journalist who last year became a conservative hero for secretly recording employees of the liberal community-organizing group ACORN apparently offering advice on how to set up a brothel, to tea party leaders seeking to disrupt congressional town halls.”
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“I am getting a little tired of Freeinpa, new rusty and the wingnuts, too.
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It’s like playing Jeopardy with the criminally insane.”

Simple solution: STOP WRITING STUPID THINGS

But then being a liberal makes you a compulsive idiot

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Yes, mistaking the name of one country for another when all they have in common is the same continent and a fight against communism by the US in common is a dumb mix up of words.”
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Yes and repeating the mistake for over a 5 minute dialogue is a simple mistake for a liberal. It a catastrophic failure of intelligence if a conservative does it.

So let’s see Rev Jim. You are a drop out a failed cab driver, used car salesman, civil servant (NYC cop) and now hypocrite. You do lead a full life. Sorry I mispelled it; you lead a fool life

“Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard, too”

Only a loser like you would compare yourself to Gates. Difference you failed at cab driving, used cars, and being a civil servant (NYC cop). Bill Gates built a technology giant, you are still building leggos

“”…It’s like playing Jeopardy with the criminally insane.”

Simple solution: STOP WRITING STUPID THINGS”
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So, you’re saying that the lead psychiatrist at the mental ward for the criminally insane you are incarcerated in tells you that will improve if people do not respond to your insane rants online?
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Here is what it would be like playing Jeopardy with you.
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“I’ll take Chemistry 101, Alex.”
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“The answer is, dihydregen oxide ”
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“Freeinpa”.
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“what are Nuclear Weapons!”
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“No”.
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“Patrick”
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“What is water?”
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“Right”.
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“Freeinpa, please put down the gun. You’re question was wrong. “

“Yes and repeating the mistake for over a 5 minute dialogue is a simple mistake for a liberal. It a catastrophic failure of intelligence if a conservative does it.”
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Lee never made headline news before in her life.
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Why is somebody you never heard of making a gaff which is not too amusing some huge piece of news?
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When it is the POTUS or VPOTUS or majority leader, then it is huge news.
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Now that I think about it, Gingrich didn’t have many gaffs and none that I recall hearing.
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Was it that he was a secret Democrat?
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No!
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He was famous for saying things which anybody less right wing than Genghis Khan would find over-the-top, but not for making gaffs.

“Only a loser like you would compare yourself to Gates.”
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Well, now that you used the word “loser” you and your right wing ideas must all make sense now!
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I am totally convinced!
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Finish the third grade, freepizza and come back later.

Rusty, why do you have to capitalize the letters when you write HUSSAIN ?
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Question for you: if Obama is indeed a muslim, does that disqualify him from being the President of the United States??

They were quick to ask Exiled what his “theories” were upthread.
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However, I’ve noticed that freeinpa has yet to elaborate on the “principles” that guide him in rejecting the idea of wooing conservative Black voters.
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Rusty and freeinpa, if they would just realize that one does not need to make racially inflammitory statements to get the conservative message out, they would stand to gain many millions of votes.
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Oh well, you can lead a horse to water…

Like I said at 21.2:
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Watch Rusty and freeinpa remain totally silent…