Morning Must Reads: Special

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–Soon-to-be interim Senator Carte Goodwin is getting seated today, just before the vote to extend unemployment benefits. With his support it’s expected to pass.

–West Virginia Governor Joe Manchin is getting his special election to permanently fill the seat this year. He’s expected to announce his intentions later in the day.

–Georgia voters head to the polls for some primary voting. Of interest: the tight (and late-changing) GOP gubernatorial race between Nathan Deal, John Oxendine and Karen Handel. Nate Silver cues up the day.

–British PM David Cameron is in town for a new round of “special relationship” building. BP is casting a bit of a shadow over the visit.

–Charlie Crist sets up Florida’s Republican legislature as a foil on offshore drilling.

–As Joe notes, The New York Timesprofile of new CENTCOM commander Jim Mattis is well worth a read.

–Pollsters: Glen Borger argues Democrats suffer from a weak midterm narrative, Tom Jensen writes the enthusiasm gap may not be such a big deal.

–Stuart Rothenberg takes down that “Sky Isn’t Falling” DNC memo.

–David Frum has an excellent column on political strategy and the source of presidential popularity. The short version: Consistency is good when it comes to the former, prosperity is ultimately what matters for the latter.

–Neil Irwin breaks down the case for and against Elizabeth Warren to head up the new Consumer Finance Protection Bureau.

–Midweek pickmeup: Seven reasons we might not be facing a double dip recession.

This is how the White House repairs strained relations with House Dems.

–California governor race update: Jerry Brown works the free media as Meg Whitman does battle with a nurses union.

–This somewhat antiquated campaign website has a section called “Why the giraffe?” I’m pretty sure 4. and 5. aren’t true.

–And Russia’s latest diabolical spy scheme.

What did I miss?

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    Political Picures of the Week, May 18-25

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    The Phony War: Obama and Romney Are Debating Character, Not Policy

    More than five months from Election Day, the back-and-forth about Mitt Romney’s record at Bain already feels played out. Unfortunately, there’s good reason to expect the campaign continues in this vein indefinitely. Neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney are terribly interested in dwelling on policy platforms. Romney’s plan to slash spending and keep taxes low on the wealthy isn’t especially popular, at least not at any level of detail beyond a blithe promise to shrink the deficit. Meanwhile, Obama’s signature first-term achievements, like health care, the stimulus and Wall Street reform, are all unpopular or tricky to sell. (The Dodd-Frank bill is the most popular of these, but hyping it means offending wealthy donors.) So what we’re getting instead is a superficial duel about character–and, worse, one that’s based on the largely false premise that the better man can better “manage” the economy back to health.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Stuart Rothenberg is upset that an advocacy group, um, advocated?
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    He seemed a bit over the top. I wonder why?

  • 53_3

    Obama
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    Less filling.
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    Cameron
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    Tastes great.
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    Steinbrenner’s Ghost
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    You’re both fired!

  • newfreedomblog

    No big deal to TIME.com or its liberal band of loons who promote this ragazine.
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    “”Based on today’s Washington Post, it appears that Google holds classified U.S. government contracts to supply search and geospatial information to the U.S. government. In addition, White House records show that Google executives have been holding meetings with U.S. national security officials for undisclosed reasons. Finally, it also appears that Google’s widely criticized efforts to collect wireless network data on American citizens were not inadvertent, contrary to the company’s claims.”

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    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/googles-wi-spying-and-intelligence-ties-prompt-call-for-congressional-hearing-98769559.html
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    Of course we heard much from liberals when the “Patriot Act” was first put into law, and the outrage from liberals in general was nothing short of astounding. Today? We hear nothing out of them. Seems if they do it, it is ok to spy on our fellow Americans by our liberal friends.
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    Yes indeed Ladies and Gentlemen, Hope and Change!!!

  • grape_crush

    What did I miss?

    I’m playing ‘connect the dots’ today.

    Starting from the top.

    “Will the rest of the GOP leadership, which wasn’t notified in advance of Bachmann’s plan, also join? At this point, it’s less than clear. Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) has said he doesn’t join any of the various caucuses, and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and his chief deputy, Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), are on record as ‘undecided’ about Bachmann’s club.

    Indeed, it’s hardly a stretch to think GOP lawmakers may struggle, at least a little, with the decision of whether to be associated with the House Tea Party Caucus.”

  • 53_3

    This is one area I know pretty well, being I do GIS:
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    They have had these contracts for several years, and a lot of people have been attacking the Google attempts to collect wireless data.
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    Meetings with Google have taken place during the Bush Administration, too:
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    http://www.aselabs.com/news.php?id=11027&asesessid=fbcc7f6ede0745fbb86504ab59a9c2e8
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    It has nothing to do with liberals. If anything, it shows that Google, which is the leader in automated RS, was close to the intelligence community for many years.
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    This is one issue I favor, but it has nothing to do with liberals, nor did it start with Obama.

  • newfreedomblog

    More blatant racism from the NAACP.
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    http://wcbstv.com/topstories/tea.party.naacp.2.1812710.html
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    As well as the recent revelations that TIME.com and other so-called news sources continue to report on the truth and news. We have this gem to report ourselves as concerned citizens.
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    “Organization Agrees With Official’s Resignation, Will Investigate ‘Disturbing’ Reactions Of Audience, NAACP Officials”

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    “Shirley Sherrod, USDA Rural Development Georgia State Director, delivered at the NAACP’s 20th Annual Freedom Fund Banquet. The video shows Sherrod speaking of racial considerations being a factor for how much help she would give.”

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    Sherrod tendered her resignation Monday. However at the NAACP meeting recently where they also condemned the TEA Party movement as racists, Shirley said the following on a video taped speech…
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    “The first time I was faced with having to help a white farmer save his farm, he took a long time talking but he was trying to show me he was superior to me. I know what he was doing, but he had come to me for help. What he didn’t know while he was taking all that time trying to show me he was superior to me was, I was trying to decide just how much help I was going to give him,” Sherrod said.
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    “I was struggling with the fact that so many black people had lost their farmland, and here I was faced with having to help a white person save their land. So I didn’t give him the full force of what I could do. I did enough,” Sherrod said. “So that when he, I assumed the Department of Agriculture had sent him to me, either that or the Georgia Department of Agriculture, and he needed to go back and report that I did try to help him.”
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    In the video, Sherrod also spoke of referring the white farmer to a white lawyer, thinking the latter would be more sympathetic because of race. “So I took him to a white lawyer that had attended some of training that we had provided because Chapter 12 bankruptcy had just been enacted for the family farm. So I figured if I take him to one of them, that his own kind would take care of him.”

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    Anyone want to take a stab at this one? Anyone? TIME.com?

  • grape_crush

    Jumping the shark.

    “Al-Qaeda Bomb-Making Blog Shut Down, Tea Party Nation Outraged[...]

    And what, pray tell, was so bad about Blogetery that the scary Obama-bots had to take down the site? Al-Qaeda, child p[or]nography, bomb-making tips, and a hit list…”

  • conversets

    Update to Rothenberg’s bull:

    Democrats Jump Into Six Point Lead on Generic Ballot

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/141440/Democrats-Jump-Six-Point-Lead-Generic-Ballot.aspx

  • chupkar

    Why won’t Fox air the ad where Brigadier Gen. Steven Anderson, who was the chief of logistics for U.S. forces in Iraq under Gen. Petraeus, urges the Senate to pass a clean energy plan.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_07/024794.php

  • grape_crush

    Jumping back over the shark.

    “Senator Al Franken likely owes his Senate victory to felons. With a razor thin victory over Senator Norm Coleman in 2008 of just 312 votes, felons convicted of crimes such as murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assaults may have given Democrats the filibuster proof sixtieth vote that allowed Obamacare to be passed.”

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    We hear nothing out of them.
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    If you’d take you fingers out of your ears and stopped singing you’d be able to hear better. Yesterday’s Glenn Greenwald column rather specifically addresses the issue you pretend is being ignored.
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    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/07/19/secrecy/index.html

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    And yet my favorite screed concerning privacy rights remains John Ashcroft’s heartfelt attack on the Clipper proposal.
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    http://www.badattitudes.com/AshWeb.html

    It’s nice that your suddenly concerned about privacy Rusty. Where were you when we needed you?

  • grape_crush

    And yes, Rustyblog – Lott’s post is more right-wing BS.

    http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=858569

    We received about 480 names from Minnesota Majority,” Ramsey County’s lead prosecutor Phil Carruthers told KARE Wednesday, “About 270 were clearly inaccurate and were rejected right from the get-go.”

    He said a quick review revealed the names and birthdates didn’t match, or that the felons in question were no longer barred from voting.

    “They were ruled out usually because they had the wrong identity of a person,” Carruthers explained, “Or because the person no longer was on probation, and thus their civil rights had been restored.”

    There are 30 felons on the group’s list that have been charged with election violations in Ramsey County. But prosecutors had already received those names from the county elections office and the Secretary of State’s office, according to Carruthers.

  • newfreedomblog

    mr 53_3:
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    No one is disputing the fact that Bush II was also involved with google, had you read to the bottom of my linked source you would have seen that statement.
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    My discussion and comment is on the faux pas outrage by the left when it was the Bush Administration. This outrage was nothing short of deafening from the liberal left at the time.
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    However today, those same voices are completely silent. Nothing from them what-so-ever. Hypocrisy from the left continues. Wonder why when they call Fox News and other more conservative news sources as shills for the Repubican Party, and not really news sources what-so-ever, then this. No outrage over our individual rights being attacked. Nothing at all from our liberal friends. Simply amazing, isn’t it?
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    Why is that mr 53_3? Care to explain?

  • grape_crush

    Anyone?
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    “The whole story is BS. Brietbart has conveniently edited out the context of this story, but he forgot one crucial detail. Notice where she says that the story took place just after Chapter 12 bankruptcy was established for family farms? Andrew really should have edited that out. You know why? Chapter 12 was so established in 1986. What was Shirley Sherrod doing in 1986? She was running the New Communities black farm coop in Georgia. She was not employed by the government in any way. Some white farmer called a black coop looking for help. She helped him, but not as much as she “could” if, you know, he were a black farmer and thus would have some interest in the coop. They also gave farmers help restructuring their loans and whatnot, so she referred him to a lawyer who could help him, despite his condescending attitude.

    I should also note that the her coop and the associate RDLN recently won a $1 billion+ settlement for black farmers after they were systematically denied loans provided to white farmers in the early eighties, complements of Ronnie Reagan (Pigford v. Glickman). But we all know it was those black farmers banding together in their cooperative farming blackness that are the real racists.”
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    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36779_Breitbart_Utterly_Destroys_Something

  • 53_3

    Take a look at grape’s links on the issue. “Liberals” don’t even like it. A lot happens under cover of secrecy.
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    Rusty, FOX is very defective as a “news” source. It’s funding, it’s owner, and it’s coverage are exclusively GOP. They broadcast opinions, and not news.
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    One thing this is not is a conspiracy to spy by “liberals”.
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    We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. By all means though, Google should be investigated…

  • 53_3

    One thing you do Rusty is that you do a lot of is to imply. One of them is that you implied that it started with Obama. Your article mentioned it at the end, but my link was more specific.

  • kevin

    Right, Rusty, the NAACP is really defending this woman’s remarks and standing by the audience’s reaction as well:
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    We concur with US Agriculture Secretary Vilsack in accepting the resignation of Shirley Sherrod for her remarks at a local NAACP Freedom Fund banquet.
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    Racism is about the abuse of power. Sherrod had it in her position at USDA. According to her remarks, she mistreated a white farmer in need of assistance because of his race.
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    We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers.
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    Her actions were shameful. While she went on to explain in the story that she ultimately realized her mistake, as well as the common predicament of working people of all races, she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done to this man.
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    The reaction from many in the audience is disturbing. We will be looking into the behavior of NAACP representatives at this local event and take any appropriate action.

    It really is sickening to see the way Ben Jealous defends her there, isn’t it?

  • 53_3

    So that was 1986, grape?
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    I don’t have time to research everything but thank you.
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    Rusty, see my comment on the other blog.

  • grape_crush

    And who are these Tea Partiers, anyway?

    “The Tea Party is a grass-roots, intensely ideological, conservative Republican movement, fired up by Fox News and Glenn Beck. It is not remotely an independent or populist revolt against the elites or a working class revolt rooted in frustration with the recession, Wall Street and government.[...]

    Almost half of self-identified Republicans (47 percent) are strong Tea Party supporters who have already played an outside role in punishing Republican moderates and producing a unified, polarizing, and unpopular national Republican Party. The Tea Party is not very popular outside the Republican Party and Republican-leaning independents, and Beck and Palin even less so.”

  • 53_3

    I might point out, Rusty, that the relatively small settlement to Black farmers (1.5 billion) is still hanging fire. It’s been sitting there, waiting for funding since 1986.
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    It would be interesting to find out what’s (or who) has been holding that up, too, for 14 years…

  • Paul-no not that one

    The way that election was rushed I can understand why people would be receptive to conspiracy theories.
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    It’s not as if every ballot was reviewed by both parties or there was a court review that went to the Minnesota Supreme Court or that Coleman had every right to appeal to the US Supreme Court but conceded.
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    So silly.

  • michaelfury
  • newfreedomblog

    “One thing you do Rusty is that you do a lot of is to imply.”

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    Imply? Yes this may be true, but I have learned my lessons very well from the very same liberal bloggers, lame stream media reporters and liberal commenters on this very site.
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    Amazing how this all gets turned on you when you in fact are guilty of the same thing, isn’t it mr 53_3?

  • m0mentom0ri

    Don’t trust BP.
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    Photoshop and other image editing software enables the photographer (or anyone) to turn a white lie into a dark thunderstorm of a lie.
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    http://itsjustlight.com/?p=1269

  • grape_crush
  • newfreedomblog

    I wonder if we will be getting any news from the Blagojevich trial now that Blogo himself is taking the stand?
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    Yes TIME.com? Or will you be posting more drivel on Sarah Palin instead?
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    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/index.html

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Imply? Yes this may be true, but I have learned my lessons very well from the very same liberal bloggers, lame stream media reporters and liberal commenters [sic] on this very site.”
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    So, you are saying that you like to take the lowest moral ground possible.
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    I’ll give you credit that you are admitting to finding the lowest standards and holding yourself only accountable to those lowest standards when posting.

  • m0mentom0ri

    Whatever comity Rusty found over the weekend is fading fast. His rants last week about Obama’s plans to declare “marshall law” were truly disturbing.
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    And then there’s this:
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/18/BAG71EG92P.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea
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    The eliminationist rhetoric Rusty preaches ends there. When you constantly say the government is evil, the government is going to take your things from you, you eventually make an enemy of the government. One that has to be fought by any means available.
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    And that’s why I’m no longer antagonizing Rusty. I don’t want to be the one that sets him off. Not to mention, it brings out the worst in myself, to argue at his level.

  • 53_3

    Point out where I imply anything and I will be happy to discuss.
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    I usually state my case, except when I get facetious about a statement that is clearly from deep in left field…

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Rusty,
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    If you were honest, you line should be, “NAACP tosses it’s own racists out”.
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    That is what happened.

  • newfreedomblog

    I’ll give you credit that you are admitting to finding the lowest standards and holding yourself only accountable to those lowest standards when posting.”

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    Nope sartor, just using the same tactics my liberal loon friends right here in the swamp have taught me. Nothing more, nothing less. Enjoy!!

  • newfreedomblog

    Nope, no news on Blago. Just more Did you hear what Sarah Palin said now….
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    Come on TIME.com, you are a better ragazine than this. Can’t you come up with a fresher, more enlightening grocery store checkout tabloid meme than Sarah Palin: I Refudiate Palin??????

  • m0mentom0ri

    I posted this above, but I think it goes better with your video.
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    I-580 shootout suspect mad at left-wing politics
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    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/18/BAG71EG92P.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea

  • conversets

    Saw a picture of this new kid, Carte Goodwin, and my foggy old mind read the caption as intern Senator instead of interim.

  • newfreedomblog

    I’m not the author of the article I cite, mr sartor. Despite how well it is written. Perhaps you should take your challenge to them.
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    I am merely pointing out yet again, the hypocrisy of the liberal left.

  • apr2563

    Schwarzenegger vs nurses:
    http://www.labornotes.org/node/20
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    Whitman is taking on nurses? Note how well that went for Ahnold. He planned to “kick their butt” but proved himself a “girlie man”.

  • kevin

    Sweet Jesus, what a story.
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    Williams watched the news on television and was upset by “the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items,” his mother said.
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    She said she had planned to cook salsa with her son on Sunday and was making preparations when she got a call from a television reporter, looked out the window and saw that her pickup was gone.
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    She said she then checked the locked safe where she kept her guns, all legally purchased and owned, and found that they were also missing.
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    Janice Williams said she kept the guns because “eventually, I think we’re going to be caught up in a revolution.” But she said she had told her son many times that “he didn’t have to be on the front lines.”

    Remind me — how many cops have the New Black Panther Party nutcases shot at? Because between this guy and Richard Poplawski in Pittsburgh, conservative white extremists are making it seem like maybe the real threat isn’t where Faux News insists it is.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Pittsburgh_police_shootings#Political_views

  • apr2563

    Onoz! They were also spinning.

  • grape_crush

    And your dessert…

    As part of his probation, Levi has to blow into a horse to get it started.

    “After an investigation performed by the Cattaraugus County Sheriff’s Office, 17 year old Amish boy, Levi Detweiler, was arrested on counts of underage possession of alcohol, overdriving an animal, reckless endangerment and failure to stop at a stop sign.”

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Wow,
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    For all of the big discussions about how I have a 40 inch waist, next to Glenn I am slim.
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    I wonder if he ever tells the truth.

  • 53_3

    No hypocrisy at all Rusty:
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    Have you figured out the real reasons why the Black community isn’t flocking in support of the GOP, the Tea Party?
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    After all, just who do you think might be the final arbiter of what is considered racially inflammatory or not?
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    Rusty, to consider:
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    The real test of the veracity of your claims will be when half, not just a tiny percentage, of the Black community agrees with you.

  • apr2563

    The best thing that can be done is to ignore NewRusty.
    It is hard. I held off for several days and then fell of the ignore wagon. He cannot maintain civillity. Note: “liberal loons”. He chooses to show no interest in those that post reasonable and documented disagreement with his opinions.
    My opinion: New Rusty, pffft

  • 53_3

    On the flipside of Patrick Sarters’ comments, you should be glad that the move represents a likewise attempt by the Tea Party to respond constructively to the NAACP’s response.
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    I take the developments as positive moves in both organizations!

  • 53_3

    One has to remember this cases’ extrapolation:
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    It would, if Obama makes it, just how many attempts on his life there were, and by whom...

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “”If you can get Obama to get [U.S. Attorney Patrick] Fitzgerald to close the investigation on you, it completely provides you with total clarity,” Robert Blagojevich was quoted as telling Rod in a transcript read by Niewoehner, suggesting this as a more realistic gambit than angling for a Cabinet appointment.”
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    “On September 1, 2001, Fitzgerald was nominated for the position of U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois on the recommendation of U.S. Senator Peter Fitzgerald (no relation), a Republican from Illinois. On October 24, 2001, the nomination was confirmed by the Senate”
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    Fitzgerald is a Republican appointed by Bush, nominated by a Republican and confirmed by a Republican majority Senate. There is no likelihood that Obama as president elect had any weight with Fitzgerald and no reason to believe that Obama even heard of the concept of dropping the investigation as it is very obvious that he did not.
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    It sounds like an Illinois only news story to me.

  • 53_3

    I will continue to keep my agreement with him, and not take his dislike of “liberals”, which by his definition, is far too wide a net.
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    I did not come to any agreement with other right wingers, however, unless they agree to sign on too.
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    I don’t mind keeping it, because his commentary had long ago ceased making me angry, and my main aim has always been to place racially inflammatory commentary and hate speech outside the spectrum of acceptable political discourse.

  • sacredh

    “For all of the big discussions about how I have a 40 inch waist, next to Glenn I am slim.”
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    patrick, Glenn is a big guy. He has to be big because of the enormous amount of sh!t that he’s filled with.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “As I’ve said before unexcited voters count the same as excited ones and our polling so far this cycle has suggested the Democrats who answer our surveys vote, whether they’re excited about it or not. So I’m not sure how much the wide GOP advantage with ‘very excited’ voters really matters.”
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    If an excited vote counted more than an unexcited vote, Glenn Beck, constantly excited about everything, would have more votes than several congressional districts.

  • newfreedomblog

    “Have you figured out the real reasons why the Black community isn’t flocking in support of the GOP, the Tea Party?”

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    Ah yes, mr 53_3. As I would think the promise of “spread the wealth” and other forms of Black Libration Theology which Mr Obama learned from his mentors, what pray tell is the incentive to not want to get off of government entitlement programs and become individually reponsible for taking care of yourself as the TEA Party advocates? Why leave the safety and security of a montly government entitlement check and free healthcare, for the uncertain world where people actually work and pay for things on their own?
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    Why ask for limited government, when you are told day after day after day that a big windfall of profits from those evil corporations will one day be taxed into submission and you will be the beneficiary of those taxes someday?
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    Why go look for a job, when you can continue to receive money for doing nothing as your unemployment checks roll in like a royality check from some new discovery you had? Hell if they government will keep extending all of these Democrat programs, why would I ever go join another party who advocates for fiscal reponsibility in our government’s affairs?
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    I know, I know. I am a racist. Go ahead, say it. Limited Government, Fiscal Responsibility, and advocating for the Free Market principles of capitalism are so anti-Black are they not?
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    Of course the 1/3rd of TEA Party members who are of non-white racial makeup, who have jobs and businesses agree whole-heartedly with me. But who are they anyways, right? Just business owners, entrepreneurs, and those who recognize the value this country once held in its advocacy of these principles, but have been thrown away by liberals mainly from the Democrat Party in hopes one day there will be a neo-socialist way of life in America. A neo-socialist way of life which will never work, and become the downfall of this country once and forever.
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    These same non-whites who are members of the TEA Party movement that you disown in your Black community. Yes indeed.

  • sacredh

    “What did I miss?”

    All of this stuff is interesting, but Lindsey Lohan is going to jail today folks. This travesty of justice had better not delay the Linda Lovelace movie she’s making. I’m buying stock in alum.

  • 53_3

    Rusty:
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    For the moment, I will continue to refrain, but I want to take exception to this racially inflammatory statement:
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    “As I would think the promise of “spread the wealth” and other forms of Black Libration Theology which Mr Obama learned from his mentors…”
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    First, you extrapolated the NBPP controversy to Obama by means of typical “Willie Horton” associations.
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    Lower taxes are one thing, and even income redistribution is another, but to couch it in terms of a belief that is only held by a small minority of the Black community is a dig at his Black heritage.
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    Stick to being p!ssed at Obama for “raising taxes” or “redistributing wealth”. Fine, but leave race out of it!
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    Next:
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    “…, what pray tell is the incentive to not want to get off of government entitlement programs and become individually reponsible for taking care of yourself as the TEA Party advocates?”
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    This part is also completely wrong!
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    Why? I’ve said it before, and I will say it again:
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    1. The Black community, like any other ethnic community, is not monolithic in it’s beliefs!
    ——–some 40% of the Black community is conservative
    ——–many, many in the Black community think of welfare as a stigma.
    ——–the Black community is split on many other issues too.
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    2. Your characterization of the Black community wanting nothing but handouts is a racial stereotype and most, unbeknown to you, simply want a job, just like the rest of us!
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    Refrain in the future from racially inflammatory statements as per our agreement. You do not need to make racially motivated remarks in order to get your point across about smaller government, work ethic, or taxation!
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    Dump the crap, Rusty!!!!!!!!!!

  • 53_3

    “These same non-whites who are members of the TEA Party movement that you disown in your Black community. Yes indeed.”
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    First of all, the proportion of Black Tea Party members is less than 5% in the Black community. The level of their participation is minuscule. Everyone has posted numerous polls already.
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    I’ve noted that you have switched to claiming “non-white” or “minority”.
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    Interesting…

  • freeinpa

    Rusty:

    Now you know their can’t be any racism unless your white. Otherwise the dimwitted left either:ignores, rationalizes an din general just make excuses.

    I love how IQ53 jumps to the Black Community isn’t monolithic but of course very conservative or Tea Party member is especially if they can hang a pejorative term to them.

    Nothing sets of the bile of the left like being slapped with the reality they are every negative that they try to label the conservatives. Problem is they can’t get away with their lies and that is what really ticks them off.

  • pintortwo

    Robert Baer has a good article up on Time regarding the WaPo series highlighting our clusterfied intelligence community, linked to in yesterday’s MMR.
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    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2004876,00.html
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    “CIA Director Leon Panetta has gone on the record as saying there are only a couple hundred al-Qaeda dead-enders in the mountains between Pakistan and Afghanistan, most of whom are dormant, hiding in caves. With a prey so small and elusive and a bureaucracy so Washington-bound, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that we’re tripping over ourselves. Nor should it come as a surprise that more money and more contractors aren’t a problem of diminishing returns but rather one of adding to the risk.”
    .
    .
    That could probably be applied to US Defense policy as a whole which, many feel, conducts self-perpetuating wars, builds unnecessary weapons and creates more enemies than it eliminates.
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    Intelligence gathering and defense are too important to be jobs-programs (which is likely how your Senator sees it). Our intel apparatus could be streamlined dramatically, perhaps by half or more, and made more effective. Too, we currently have 23 weapons programs costing over $1 billion annually (according to wiki US Defense spending).
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    This is not necessary, it is “adding to the risk”.

  • m0mentom0ri

    ‘The streets will run red with your blood.’
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    NAACP receives racist death threat
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    http://www.naacp.org/blog/entry/naacp-receives-death-threat/

  • piper1

    Shorter Rusty, as always: “I know you are but what am I! Nah nah!!”

  • 53_3

    freeinpa:
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    Long time no smell.
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    Show me where I lied!
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    Oh, and the reason I point out the reaction, makeup and character of the Black community is that it is they, and not Rush Limbaugh, who are the final arbiter of what is and is not a racially inflammatory statement.
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    Now tell me that’s not true!
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    If you do, then I’ll show you someone who feels they can call someone a m/f and then claim that that selfsame person shouldn’t feel insulted…

  • m0mentom0ri

    A former New Orleans resident was charged Thursday with federal hate crimes for his alleged role in a racially motivated shooting of three black men in the days after Hurricane Katrina.
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    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/07/federal_hate_crime_charges_fil.html

  • 53_3

    Seems to be a lot of that happening these days, momento.
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    Either the feds are handing out big game punch cards, or racially inflammatory commentary is stoking the flames of hatred.
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    I’m one of those that favors the latter…

  • 53_3

    I heard that he has an affliction that might leave him blind.
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    Is there any truth to that?
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    On second thought, never mind…

  • freeinpa

    “On second thought”

    Who knew you were capable of one thought let alone a second?

  • 53_3

    She looks a lot better than Sarah Palin too. Heck, I don’t know what her political views are, but she also has an addiction, just like Rush Limbaugh.
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    With that many attributes, one would think that there would be a lot of GOPers willing to securely fasten their tongues to her wall…

  • 53_3

    Oh, cwap!

  • freeinpa

    “That could probably be applied to US Defense policy as a whole which, many feel, conducts self-perpetuating wars, builds unnecessary weapons and creates more enemies than it eliminates.”

    That could be applied to every government program. The government is actual;y bound to protect the country. Much of the other nonsense is crap dreamed up by liberals for the nanny state.

  • m0mentom0ri

    The sad thing, 53, is that I could do this all day…
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    “New Hampshire residents must seek to preserve their racial identity if we want future generations to have to possibility to live in such a great state.”
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    http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/19/racist-new-hampshire-candidate/
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    There seems to be a renewed effort to legitimize racist attitudes. Especially the “we’re not racist, we just need to save black people from themselves” variation of racism that’s becoming very popular on right-wing radio and blogs.
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    The Return of the Cadillac Driving Welfare Queen, for those who are old enough to remember Reagan playing that card.

  • 53_3

    No spanking for you freeinpa.
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    Now go stand in a corner with your tongue securely fastened to a wall…

  • freeinpa

    “The Daily Caller has a second group of leaked “JournoList” e-mails — these dating to the scandal surrounding Barack Obama’s association with Rev. Jeremiah Wright during the 2008 presidential campaign — which illustrate a coordinated effort among a group of left-leaning news and opinion journalists to bury the story and/or make it about right-wing racism.”

    =

    Yeah and Fox News is the problem!

  • freeinpa

    Yep just as I suspected not a single thought.

  • 53_3

    I’m trying to keep my agreement with Rusty, momento, but he is making it very hard.
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    None of these guys need to make their points about government, taxes, socialism, etc etc etc by stirring up racial hatred.

  • 53_3

    FOX isn’t news.
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    It fits every definition of a propaganda organ:
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
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    Yes! A wiki link, however, look at the references for assessing the validity!

  • 53_3

    FYI momento:
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    There is a close parallel between Rusty’s commentary that I pointed out and that “it’s for your own good” mentality.
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    There is nothing more ridiculous than hearing someone profess to “care” about them in that way…

  • freeinpa

    “Show me where I lied”

    Every time you insist you are not a racist for one, although you can’t rule out you are just a delusional chucklehead.

    ==
    “Black community is that it is they, and not Rush Limbaugh, who are the final arbiter of what is and is not a racially inflammatory statement.”

    Ever ubiquitous “black community” that you use as a prop. So the NAACP, New Black Panthers (and the Old ones for that matter), Farrakhan Rev. Wright are the arbiters of racism? Or will you jump to page 3 in the race baiting handbook when presented with non-white racism declare : black community not monolithic or small portion and not representative.

    So what is the solution when the arbiters are out and out racists? I know your answer but let”s see if you disappoint me.

  • pintortwo

    The government is actual;y bound to protect the country.
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    Absolutely. The Pentagon is charged with the task. But “the government” has other duties as well.
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    US defense policy should not be bound to job creation and to the trasnsfer of wealth to society’s elites. How are you not enraged that it happens?

  • pintortwo

    ..should be linked to 20.1

  • 53_3

    “Every time you insist you are not a racist for one, although you can’t rule out you are just a delusional chucklehead.”
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    This is just empty insult.
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    “Ever ubiquitous “black community” that you use as a prop. So the NAACP, New Black Panthers (and the Old ones for that matter), Farrakhan Rev. Wright are the arbiters of racism?”
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    See my comment at 5.10. Those people don’t represent the bulk of the Black community. Are you trying to say that the entire Black community is racist?
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    “==”
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    Your most sensible statement so far.
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    “Or will you jump to page 3 in the race baiting handbook when presented with non-white racism declare : black community not monolithic or small portion and not representative.”
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    Those people are racists. That’s beside the point Are you telling me that the Black community is monolithic?
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    “So what is the solution when the arbiters are out and out racists?”
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    So the entire Black community is composed of “out and out” racist?
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    “I know your answer but let”s see if you disappoint me.”
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    Well, why don’t you tell me what my answer is?
    Let’s see if you can do it without the “Willie Horton” style attempts to connect Wright and the NBPP to the Black community as a whole.

  • freeinpa

    “trasnsfer of wealth to society’s elites”

    Exactly how is the government transferring wealth to the elite? Do you mean tax cuts? If you do, I fully understand why you failed at so many things. The money is the of the people who earn it and not the governments.

    Along the lines of wealth transfer, the government should not be in the business of wealth transfer PERIOD!

  • freeinpa

    And once again you try to deflect the true issue of the race-baiting by the MSM and the left. Not surprised. The left caught once again with their thumbs up their backsides

    When your entire structure to a philosophy is found out to be a farce, it is a good idea to try to get everyone to look away. Otherwise your entire life is a failure. IQ53 meet Rev Jim, 2 burdens on society

  • pintortwo

    Exactly how is the government transferring wealth to the elite?
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    I said the US defense policy is transferring wealth. And can you really be asking how?
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    Try $382 billion in weapon R+D (I linked a few times to Kaplan’s article in Slate), or $2.2 billion per copy for a B2 bomber (linked to as well), or the effort to continue the poor performing, redundant F-22 jet, or spending as much on our military as the rest of the world combined to combat an enemy with no army, or billions spent on building infrastructure overseas only to be overcharged by more billions and the facilities to go unfinished and unused, or the energy companies deciding energy policy… for a few.

  • newfreedomblog

    I have an idea mr 53_3, why don’t YOU call out those who are in the fringes of the Black community who are making racists remarks first, then come back and extoll the virtues of anti-racism on the rest of us who you have deemed racists. When I have seen or read where you have condemned those within the Black community for using the same tactics as you have denounced white people in general, then perhaps you will have some credibility.
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    Isn’t that the argument you have used against those of us who you claim to be raicists? Those who belong to the TEA Party? Those who are predisposed to the conservative ideology?
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    Or is there the chance there may be fringe groups in both the White and Black communities who are in fact racists, but does not make everyone, including those of us who comment right here in the swamp racists? Once you have not only apologized to those of us who you have called a racist for absolutely no reason at all. Maybe you can call upon your fellow liberal commenters to back off of their inciting and race baiting statements too while you are at it. Then perhaps we can discuss these issues as adults, and move forward.
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    Until then, we can continue to agree to disagree.

  • pintortwo

    Per the “poor performing, redundant F-22″:

    (T)he F-22′s “mission capable rate,” a measure of its readiness, fell in the 62 percent range in the 2008 fiscal year, (Pentagon undersecretary of defense for acquisition, John) Young said.
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    “I think that’s troubling,” he went on, adding the fighter, which features advanced technology to reduce detection by radar, “is proving very expensive to operate.”

    “Clearly, (there’s) work to be done there to make that airplane both capable and affordable to operate,” he said.
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    The F-22 had failed to meet most of its “key performance parameters” in operational tests last year and the trend was negative. Maintenance manpower hours per flying hour had gone up since previous tests, with the last one a “substantial” increase, he said.

    .
    - link
    .
    ..but it’s parts are made in 22 states, so it’s “necessary” (my recollection, not at link).

  • pintortwo

    ..more
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    “Stealth technology drives the sticker price of these fighters ($338 million per copy) into the stratosphere, but avionics, not radar-evading airframes, is what gives them superiority in air-to-air combat. The F-22’s missile, radar, identification, and communications gear can be retrofitted into the F-16 Viper, which is still in production and comes in at under $20 million a copy. The multi-role Viper is a far better tactical bomber than the F-22, and when the fog of air-war forces a visual dogfight, the Air Force asserts that the “F-16’s maneuverability and combat radius exceed that of all potential threat fighter aircraft.”
    .
    Please read the whole article:
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    Sticker Shock and Awe

  • 53_3

    We agree to disagree?
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    No, you have broken the agreement, and are trying to divert things into who should do what and when.
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    You are both claiming it is ok to make racially inflammatory statements simply because I have not decried their racism in a manner you find acceptable!
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    I don’t do things on your time. I also don’t do things in your context.
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    What is funny is that you both admit your statement was racially inflammatory, and unnecessary, as well as untrue.
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    Didn’t someone teach you that you don’t try to grab both ends of a short stick?
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    Can’t have it both ways. It’s one of the more original ways I’ve seen to lose an argument…

  • 53_3

    “…as you have denounced white people in general, then perhaps you will have some credibility.”
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    Would you care to point out just where I have done that?
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    Inquiring minds want to know.
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    I’d watch that wall though…

  • newfreedomblog

    “I don’t do things on your time. I also don’t do things in your context.
    .
    What is funny is that you both admit your statement was racially inflammatory, and unnecessary, as well as untrue”.

    .
    Well it would be a good statement mr 53_3 could you even prove I am being racially inflammatory, especially when what I have commented on is not only documented proof, but backed by the video statements.
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    Something your allegations lack totally.
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    Have a nice day mr 53_3, thank you for reading and pondering on my comments.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Freeinpa,
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    Normal Rockwell, the common man’s artist of the mid century had it right:
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    http://www.bilderberg.org/fight4.jpg
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    Freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom from want and freedom from fear are what America is all about.
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    Unfortunately freedom from want (using a government mandated minimum wage and workers having the option of organizing a union for collective bargaining) and freedom from fear (of a work based injury due to unsafe working conditions regulated by Nixon created OSHA, Environmental catastrophe, regulated by the, also, Nixon created EPA or freedom from fear of an injury due to malice or negligence using tort law) is, to you is “Much of the other nonsense is crap dreamed up by liberals for the nanny state.”
    .
    As for fear, if you didn’t think that Al Qada and the SEIU were hiding under your bed, you probably wouldn’t vote at all.
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    (Since the SEIU represents janitors, they might be the ones who clean under your bed when you got to a hotel.)

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor


    .
    How about John McCain’s minister John Hagee?
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    “Hagee has been criticized for his statements about Israel, the Roman Catholic Church, and Islam. One notable critic is journalist Bill Moyers, who claims that Hagee and other evangelicals are working toward supporting the religious right. He states, “Someone who didn’t know better could imagine from the very name Christians United For Israel—CUFI—that pastor John Hagee speaks for all Christians. Well, he doesn’t… What these fellows have forged is a close connection between the White House and the religious right.”[36]

    Some Jewish leaders, such as Reform Rabbi Eric Yoffie, criticized Hagee for being an “extremist” on Israeli policy and for disparaging other faiths including Islam and Roman Catholicism.[37]
    [edit] Accusations of anti-Catholicism

    After Hagee’s 2008 endorsement of U.S. Presidential candidate John McCain, a furor arose over comments, broadcasts, and writings made by Hagee that were seen as anti-Catholic. After discussions with Catholic leaders, Hagee made an apology, which was publicly accepted by Catholic League President William Donohue.[38]

    When Hagee made the endorsement, the Catholic League for Civil and Religious Rights president William A. Donohue issued the following remarks regarding Senator John McCain’s ties to Hagee:

    Now that he has secured the Republican nomination for president, and has received the endorsement of President Bush, McCain will now embark on a series of fundraising events. When he meets with Catholics, he is going to be asked about his ties to Hagee. He should also be asked whether he approves of comments like this: “A Godless theology of hate that no one dared try to stop for a thousand years produced a harvest of hate.” That quote is proudly cited by David Brog in his recent book, Standing with Israel. Both Brog and Hagee clearly identify the Roman Catholic Church as spawning a “theology of hate.” This is nothing if not hate speech. There are so many good evangelical leaders in this country—Dr. James Dobson, Dr. Richard Land, Tony Perkins, Gary Bauer, Dr. Al Mohler, Chuck Colson—and none has ever insulted Catholicism.[39]

    The “Godless theology” quotation is taken from Hagee’s 1987 work Should Christians Support Israel? (p. 4)[40]

    Hagee’s attack against Christian antisemitism in his book Jerusalem Countdown claimed that Adolf Hitler’s antisemitism derived especially from his Catholic background, and that the Catholic Church under Pope Pius XII encouraged Nazism instead of denouncing it. (pp. 79–81)[41] He also states that the Roman Catholic Church “plunged the world into the Dark Ages,” allowed for the Crusaders to rape and murder with impunity, and called for Jews to be treated as “Christ killers”. (p. 73) Later in the book (pp. 81–2), however, he praises Pope John Paul II for repudiating past antisemitism in the Roman Catholic Church.

    Hagee claimed in March 2008, “I’ve learned that some have accused me of referring to the Catholic Church as the ‘great whore,’ of Revelation. This is a serious misinterpretation of my words. When I refer to the ‘great whore,’ I am referring to the apostate church, namely those Christians who embrace the false cult system of Jew-hatred and antisemitism.”[42]

    Donohue rejected Hagee’s explanation as disingenuous: “Anti-Catholic Protestants have long labeled the Catholic Church “The Great Whore,” and no amount of spin can change that reality. No one who knows anything about the term would suggest otherwise.”[42] Furthermore, Hagee did identify [the Great Whore of] Babylon as Rome in his book From Daniel to Doomsday (1999), in a way that melded reference to the Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church: “The evidence would point to Rome…It was Rome where Nero wrapped Christians in oily rags and hung them on lampposts, setting them ablaze to light his gardens. It was Rome that orchestrated the Crusades where Jews were slaughtered…It was Rome that orchestrated the Inquisitions throughout the known world where “heretics” were burned at the stake or pulled in half on torture racks because they were not Roman Catholic.” (pp. 10–11)

    Hagee further responded to the charge in a videotaped statement and press release, categorically denying that he was anti-Catholic, on the grounds that his church runs a “social services center” that serves a largely Catholic constituency, that he supported a convent personally, that he had often denounced Martin Luther, not just the Catholic Church, for antisemitism, and that he did not interpret the “Whore of Babylon” as a reference to the Catholic Church.[43]”
    .
    In other news, Abe Lincoln is seeking a second term.

  • freeinpa

    “Those people don’t represent the bulk of the Black community.”

    This is exactly the answer I said you would give. Again if one conservative implies something racially you impugn the entire group but as predicted the reverse is never true.

    ==

    Let’s see if you can do it without the “Willie Horton” style attempts to connect Wright and the NBPP to the Black community as a whole.

    And as I expected, the arbiters are non-descript, no name people of the ever famous “black community” and any attempt to call out racism from the left would be met with they are non-representative and of course its a “Willie Horton” attempt because you have to throw out the race card to continually defend your indefensible position– you are a racist of the worst kind!

  • freeinpa

    Rev Jim

    Yet another tear jerking worthless diatribe.

  • freeinpa

    And Rev Jim has joined IQ53 with a gaseous non-response to the issue presented. The ever famous defense of look over there while I hide the evidence here.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Rev Jim

    Yet another tear jerking worthless diatribe.”
    .
    When our soldiers fought in World War II the War Department gave soldiers these pictures to carry with them to remind them that this what they were fighting for.
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    They carried these with them in Iwo Jima, Normandy, the Battle of the bulge – all of the battles large and small. Why? These four freedoms is what we fought for and these four freedoms are what America, for huge majority of us, is all about.
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    For you I guess you just want freedom from taxes and don’t care about anything else.
    .
    I must have gone over your head again.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “The ever famous defense of look over there while I hide the evidence here.”
    .
    Many ministers have scary and weird things to say including both Wright and, I would say more so, Hagee.
    .
    Holding elected officials responsible for what, when the elected official is not a consultant to this pastor, minister, Rabbi or priest or, more so, not even in attendance to hear these words is absurd.
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    If Wright is a reason Obama is, somehow unfit, then Hagee makes McCain unfit to serve in any office and, according to that reasoning, we shouldn’t have voted for either.
    .
    A more sound reasoning would be to say, ministers say what they want to say and believe in and parishioners/congregants, etc do are not even 1% responsible for what, sometimes, radical or crazy things come out of that preacher’s mouth.

  • pintortwo

    ..correction, for whoever sees it…
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    The F-22′s parts are not made in “22 states”, I checked. Lockheed Martin uses “About 1,000 suppliers in 44 states” (link) to produce this jet.
    .
    The F-22 dust-up is a prime example how business concerns (and yes, wealth transfer to the elites) ofter trump utilization, fiscal prudence and, indeed, national security within our defense policy.

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