What Will Joe Wilson Have to Say About Immigration Reform?

Even after the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is fully implemented in 2019, about 23 million Americans will remain uninsured. About one-third of these will be undocumented immigrants, according to estimates by the Congressional Budget Office.

This is by design. Illegal immigrants will not be permitted to buy insurance through government-run exchanges even if they pay with their own money. They will not get federal subsidies to buy insurance and will remain ineligible for Medicaid and Medicare; and even legal immigrants will have to endure a five-year waiting period before they can sign up for Medicaid.

During the health reform debate, there was not political space to compromise on any of these elements. (Remember Joe Wilson?) As a result, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus at times seemed ready to sink the legislation. But according to a good piece in Politico today, the caucus backed down because they were assured by congressional Democratic leaders and/or the White House that their health care priorities would be addressed as part of immigration reform.

Reports Politico’s Carrie Budoff Brown:

They signed on only after receiving assurances that their concerns would be rectified as part of the immigration reform battle, according to lawmakers, advocates and Hill aides.

“The expectation was that everybody knew it was unfair and that a new immigration bill would correct that,” Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) told POLITICO.

Asked at what level he received such signals, Grijalva said: “High enough to feel secure about it.”

It stands to reason that if comprehensive immigration reform really happens – this is far from a certainty – there could be a pathway for this population to join the ranks of the insured. After all, if immigration reform transformed undocumented immigrants into documented ones, everything could change. If these people were made legal residents or even citizens – just a hypothetical – they would most likely be able to get insurance. Whether that would be government-subsidized or include public insurance programs is less certain.

But Budoff Brown smartly points out yet another landmine for those in Congress pursuing immigration reform. What will Rep. Wilson have to say about this?

I should also note that the uninsured illegal immigrant population already has many folks worried about the future, from hospitals along the border, which will still have to treat uninsured illegal immigrants, to policy folks who would rather see this population included in risk pools. (Despite rhetoric that illegal immigrants come to the U.S to take advantage of free health care, surveys indicate that these people are younger – and therefore healthier – than the average American and use the system less. The exception is for hospitalization due to childbirth, where rates are higher among illegal immigrants than citizens.)

In addition, the same stresses that uninsured citizens put on the U.S. health care system exist from the uninsured non-citizen population. Emergency room crowding, poor management of ongoing chronic diseases that can cost more if left untreated, etc. Many health care system experts argue it’s good policy to insure illegal immigrants – that it actually saves more money than it costs and indirectly improves the health of legal citizens. Of course, no one is arguing that it’s good politics.

Related Topics: Carrie budoff Brown, grijalva, joe wilson, politico, Health Care, Immigration, Uncategorized
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  • deconstructiva

    Thanks, Kate. I’m more interested in John “Get Off My Lawn™” McCain’s “thoughts” than Wilson’s. We can’t scoop up all the illegal immigrants ala Soylent Green (Rusty may try; will he buy a bulldozer this weekend? Will CAT’s earnings go up if RW’ers buy many ‘dozers? But I digress.). Who pays for their ER care if they’re off the grid thanks to current politics (besides us)?
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    BTW, Kate, please post your thoughts over at CC blog / Barbara’s posts on health issues / politics re: sodas, high fructose corn syrup, and taxes. Or write something here. Even better, team up with her on a dead-tree / no paywall story. Thanks for your thoughts.

  • nflfoghorn

    Has the CBO indicated that covering non-residents would save $ ?

  • grape_crush

    Of course, no one is arguing that it’s good politics.

    It’s not an emergency, which is about the only thing that will prompt anyone to move on it…and when it becomes an emergency, ‘good politics’ will dictate that the acceptable solutions will be half measures and band-aids.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Joe Wilson voted for the invasion of Iraq. Joe Wilson voted for the entirely deficit-financed Medicare Part D bill. In 2002, when apprised of the fact that the US provided Iraq chemical and biological weapons in the 1980s, Joe Wilson incorrectly stated that this idea was “made up” and said, “This hatred of America by some people is just outrageous.” Wilson apologized for his remarks in statements to the press. In 2003, when Essie Mae Washington-Williams revealed that she was the daughter of Wilson’s former employer, the late Senator Strom Thurmond, Joe Wilson who publicly doubted her assertion, and argued that even if her story was true, she should not have revealed it because “it’s a smear” on Thurmond’s image and was a way to “diminish” Thurmond’s legacy.

    He may well be a lovely person. But as an observer of politics, the man is relentlessly, doggedly wrong about everything. If he dislikes this proposal, that’s a pretty solid indicator that it’s a good idea.

    Many health care system experts argue it’s good policy to insure illegal immigrants – that it actually saves more money than it costs and indirectly improves the health of legal citizens. Of course, no one is arguing that it’s good politics.

    Many media critics argue that the media should do a better job reporting the news. Instead of treating factual matters as a “he said/she said” dispute, critics maintain, political journalists should simply report the facts. Some say that armchair punditry dolled up as reporting– such as an implication that American discussion of the immigration/insurance issue must be shaped by Joe Wilson’s next emotional outburst rather than an effort to create sound policy– actually serves to obscure rather than clarify issues for news readers. Of course, no one is arguing that the media is capable of doing a good job reporting the news.

  • bettybb1

    The fact is, by opening the borders and refusing to enforce our immigration laws, the elite has managed to lower the American wage rate, and has a continuing supply of cheap illegal labor. To make it worse, as the wages paid as so low, the illegal aliens have to use our taxpayer subsidized benefit system. So in effect, the taxpayer is subsidizing the cheap labor for the rich. It stinks.

    And that is why, even though almost 70% of Americans are against any legalization, the elite keeps pushing for it.

    But the major problem with illegal immigration and all these amnesty and preferential treatment demands are they violate our notions of fair play and equality.

    Our immigration laws were passed to ensure no racism or discrimination; people of all races would have an equal shot at immigrating here. American families of all races would have an equal right to family reunification.

    According to government statistics, almost all illegal aliens are Hispanic. They are coming here illegally, committing the felony of either document fraud, id theft or tax evasion to work, and are accessing our social benefits, while being reunited with their families, where the law abiding relatives of American families are waiting their turn. Also, they have to pass background check, medical checks, take tests and they and their families have to guarantee they won’t take our social benefits for 5 years.

    So any legalization of the lawbreakers gives them a better deal than the law abiding people. In effect they get to shove the people who are playing by the rules aside.

    Plus Hispanic Americans would be allowed to reunite with 100 (lawbreaking) family members to one (law abiding) family member for Americans of other races.

    These demands for amnesty are repulsive. No one in America is above the law. No one.

    Stand up to the moneyed elite. Tell them we have democratically enacted laws. They cannot change them by simply refusing to enforce them, and then by trying to con us into reforming immigration law to benefit the elite’s pocket book, not the American people.

  • deconstructiva

    I wonder how the Real Americans Native Americans (who were here first, but I digress) feel about all of this. Did the Pilgrims get green cards upon arrival or arrive here illegally?

  • russpoter

    ILLEGALS, GO HOME

    ” .. Many health care system experts argue it’s good policy to insure illegal immigrants – that it actually saves more money than it costs and indirectly improves the health of legal citizens.

    MOST LEGALS argue it’s good policy for ILLEGALS TO GO HOME with their ANCHOR BABIES!

    AND GET IN LINE like us non-KENNEDYS!

  • bobcn1

    Excellent post! I was going to respond to foolishness about Joe Wilson, but you’ve said it all. And you’ve said it much better than I would have.

  • apollyon07

    I think the Pilgrims got green cards, which allowed them access to the massive government bureaucracy (comparable to the one we have today!) of benefits that the Native Americans had set up.

  • deece58

    Illegal aliens should not be allowed to purchase insurance from the exchange program. The infrastructure that will be created & maintained to support the exchange will be funded by taxpayer dollars & therefore illegals should not have access to any component of the system. Failure to block illegals from the exchange is tantamount to our govt aiding & abetting their unlawful presence in the US.

    Every illegal alien who works in this country is guilty of at least one of the following crimes:

    1) Tax Evasion (working “under the table” for cash)
    2) Identity Theft / Fraud to gain employment

    Oh, and Deconstructiva, you may want to educate yourself on the difference between colonization and modern day immigration (which is subject to rules and regulations). You are truly an ignorant individual.

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