What Does Don Berwick’s Recess Appointment Mean for Don Berwick?

The Administration announced last night that it would use a recess appointment to get Donald Berwick in place as the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). Recess appointments are controversial and this is no exception. Republicans are downright angry that the White House, apparently without much warning, decided to circumvent Congress and critics who were gearing up for a high-profile fight over Berwick’s past statements.

(Among other impolitic utterings, Berwick has said he “is romantic about the NHS,” the UK’s oft-maligned nationalized health system, and believes “excellent health care is by definitional redistributional.”)

Maybe the Administration didn’t have the stomach for another partisan health care reform battle. Maybe it didn’t feel confident in its ability to defend Don Berwick’s contention that rationing should not be the boogeyman of health care policy. Maybe vulnerable Congressional Democrats successfully lobbied for a recess appointment, eager to avoid a contentious confirmation hearing that would bring health care reform to the fore just ahead of this fall’s election. Most likely, it was all of these things.

There was no doubt that Berwick’s confirmation hearing would have created fireworks and there was a chance he would have lost the battle and not garnered the votes needed to be confirmed. His past statements, in or out of context, were a perfect means to caricature the Administration’s health care policies as being all about government control at the expense of quality care. (This, despite that Berwick’s passions include better quality care and a better experience for patients in the hospital.)

In other words, it’s abundantly clear what motivated the White House to install Berwick via a recess appointment. But why do so less than three months after he was officially nominated? It’s not as if this is the only congressional recess on the calendar. CMS has been without a permanent head since 2006 and Berwick’s name has been bouncing around as a leading candidate for more than a year. And how hampered will Berwick be in his job because of the means by which he got it?

That’s what Gail Wilensky wants to know. She ran Medicare and Medicaid under George H.W. Bush and advised Congress on Medicare reimbursements from 1997 to 2001. She is also among a group of CMS administrators who worked in Republican Administrations and who admire Berwick and strongly support his nomination. (It should be noted that the list of medical societies, hospital groups, disease advocacy organizations and others who want Berwick to have the job is seven single-spaced pages.)

“It may have come to this but it didn’t have to happen so soon,” says Wilensky. Installing Berwick during a short Senate recess so soon, is “an in your face, picking a fight response and the guy that’s going to take it on the chin is Don Berwick.”

Wilensky points out that Berwick’s ability to develop relationships with members of Congress – who he’ll need to confirm him when his recess appointment expires in late 2011 – has been severely damaged by this quick move by the White House.

“[The Administration] sat and sat and dithered and dithered and now it’s like two months and the sky is falling,” adds Wilensky.

During the next year, Berwick will be charged with ushering out reams of regulations putting the Medicare and Medicaid provisions of the Affordable Care Act into practice. He will also oversee early design of cost control and quality improvement pilot projects that could eventually transform the whole health care system. He will likely be called to testify before Congress in his role overseeing one of the largest bureaucracies in government. How smoothly will all of this go in light of the Administration’s decision? A confirmation hearing, however contentious – if it results in an actual confirmation – lends credibility to a powerful bureaucrat like the CMS administrator.

Sen. Max Baucus, the Democratic in charge of the Finance committee where Berwick nomination hearing would have taken place, said in a statement today that he’s “troubled” by the recess appointment, adding, “Senate confirmation of presidential appointees is an essential process prescribed by the Constitution that serves as a check on executive power and protects Montanans and all Americans by ensuring that crucial questions are asked of the nominee – and answered.”

According to the New York Times, Berwick’s recess appointment “was somewhat unusual because the Senate is in recess for less than two weeks and senators were still waiting for Dr. Berwick to submit responses to some of their requests for information. No confirmation hearing has been held or scheduled.”

Did the Administration jump the gun? The White House announced Berwick’s recess appointment in a blog post written by communications director Dan Pfeiffer asserting that,
“Republicans in Congress have made it clear in recent weeks that they were going to stall the nomination as long as they could, solely to score political points.”

So the White House is trying to stay a step ahead of Republicans – playing defense even before they could run their offensive play against Berwick, labeling the pediatrician, highly regarded researcher and expert on health care policy simply an “expert on rationing.” How this will affect Berwick, who is a brilliant policy wonk but whose provocative public statements exposed his political naivete?

Well, Berwick is getting a lesson in politics now and it’s one that Republicans will eagerly remind him of every time he comes into contact with them in the next 18 months or so.

(For information about Berwick, check out this rundown from Kaiser Health News.)

Related Topics: affordable care act, berwick, cms, dan pfeiffer, donald berwick, Gail Wilensky, health reform, nhs, Health Care, Uncategorized
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  • kevin

    CMS hasn’t had a leader in four years, and it’s essential to the Affordable Care Act’s implementation.
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    This was smart policy and smart politics together. I didn’t think the administration had it in it, but I’m pleasantly surprised.

  • newfreedomblog

    “At this point in his presidency, Jake Tapper points out, George W. Bush had made 15 recess appointments. Democrats claimed that Bush was so abusive of the privilege that they started keeping the Senate in session continuously after taking control of the chamber in January 2007 to block any more recess appointments. How many recess appointments has Obama made? Eighteen.
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    The White House claims this act is in response to “Washington game-playing”, accusing Republicans of planning to “stall the nomination” as long as possible. This is nothing more than a baldfaced lie. Republicanscannot stall this nomination — it is impossible for them to do so under Senate rules — as not one hearing has been called or scheduled. Even the (highly liberal) New York Times doesn’t buy the White House’s explanation, reporting: “The recess appointment was somewhat unusual because the Senate is in recess for less than two weeks and senators were still waiting for Dr. Berwick to submit responses to some of their requests for information.”
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    In truth, it is the White House that is playing games with the health policy of the nation and the welfare of the American people. In bypassing the traditional process through which the Senate advises and consents to nominees, President Obama is preventing Senators and the people they represent from obtaining any answers from Mr. Berwick, who has repeatedly made claims and statements that raise numerous questions about his suitability for this critical position.

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    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/07/obama-gives-recess-appointment-to-berwick/

  • tstar3

    Who the hell cares what these attention whores in the senate (including Baucus) think? Sometimes I wish Senators could come down to our level and see how we have to make decisions daily, while they get to pontificate and posture before announcing a decision they already made months ago. Regardless of what Berwick would have said, how many Republicans (other than Brown, Snowe, and Collins) would have voted for him.

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    What a world, a well regarded scientist is taken to task because he admires another country’s health care system…but a prostitute soliciting senator is cruising to a re-election victory in Louisiana on a family values platform.

  • Paul-no not that one

    So in short- a highly qualified/widely admired candidate
    who was sure to be abused politically during the kabuki that is the Senate confirmation process is recess appointed to a post that has been empty for 4 years?
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    I am outraged.

  • tstar3

    Why should it matter who he appoints to the position, freeper? I thought the health care law would outlaw heterosexual marriage, usher in bestiality and have the HHS secretary hunting down the elderly from Marine One?

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    If recess appointments are the only way Obama can fill these vacant offices, and it appears to be so due wholely to the republicans playing games and holding up every single nomination, I say more power to him (and any other president who has the guts to do what must be done in order to get the job done).

  • kevin

    Agreed.
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    Back in the Morning Reads post, I just gave several examples of the egregious abuse of holds by the Senate GOP — even for nominees for whom the GOP never leveled a single objection, for nominees who were eventually confirmed by votes in the 70s and 80s, even one who was confirmed 99-0 after an endless and groundless delay.

  • grape_crush

    This guy is less controversal than John Bolton, who didn’t believe in the organization he was nominated (and recess-appointed) to…

    …Smart move on the part of the Obama administration to bypass the dysfunctional Senate and its obstructionist Republicans.

  • deconstructiva

    Thanks Kate, but Baucus again? Is he going to fight his “fellow” D’s to protect other interests, meaning corporate ones? Wasn’t watering down HCR enough? Grrrr. Kate, if you’re reading our comments, two q’s.: (1.) Why? Solemn amusement or self-torment? You know certain commenters love to rail on you, Jay, Joe, etc. (I’m NOT one of them) and (2.) No really, is Baucus going to fight this along with his fellow R’s colleagues across the aisle? Good move by Obama here to bypass R’s.
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    Maybe the Third Way™ / corporate politicians from both D’s and R’s who represent companies instead of constituents (literally), etc. already form a third party, just needing a better name than Third Way™. I propose the Rollerball Party in honor of that film’s mega-corporations who literally take over the world: Energy (John Houseman’s corp.), Food, etc. Stuart Z, if you’re reading please chip in with a better rant + links / quotes. My rant over, sorry Kate.

  • newfreedomblog

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/141131/Obama-Job-Approval-Rating-Down-Among-Independents.aspx
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    Was this done before or after this recess appointment, Ms Pickert?
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    I for one hope Mr Obama continues his constitution adverting ways. I hope he continues to thumb his nose up at the American people, and pushes through more controversial men or women like Berwick. This only makes his numbers continue to plumment.
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    The bottom number is 0% Mr President. Keep up the great work, you are not that far away now.

  • 3xfire3

    Apparently none of you Liberal Commenters have bothered to read the complete above article.
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    This is clearly an “Abuse of Power” by the President. He should have allowed the process to move forward in the manner it is supposed to according to the Constitution. If after normal hearing, the appointment was blocked, he then could have used the Recess Appointment method.
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    To use the Recess Appointment Method before normal hearings were even done is a flagrant Abuse of Power by the President.
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  • deconstructiva

    … I don’t know if Media was one of the Rollerball corporations but I can imagine a real TIME roller derby team in a public league against other media groups. Picture Jay, Kate, Amy (after her baby’s birth), Katy Steinmetz, Catherine Mayer, Alice Park, and colleagues competing against the women of CNBC, FOX, and WaPo. Careful about Tumulty though; she’s a feisty competitor now. I’m against most paywall models but I would pay to see videos.

  • newfreedomblog

    Averting = adverting

  • newfreedomblog

    You forget, 3xfire3, most liberals especially those who comment on this site could care less about what the constitution says unless it fully backs up their beliefs. Otherwise it is just another piece of paper they use in the bathroom.

  • 3xfire3

    The End Justifies The Means.
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    That’s all that’s important right?
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    Anything is OK because the end will be so Beautiful.
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    Spoken like a true Communist.

  • deconstructiva

    Do you feel the same way about Bush’s recess appointments (Bolton, etc.)?

  • 3xfire3

    If it was done without normal hearing, YES

  • deconstructiva

    Bush made 171 recess appointments:
    http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid='0DP%2BP%5CW%3B%20P%20%20
    If you’re going to criticize Obama you’re going to have to rail against your fave Bush too. You said YES so rant away against W. We’re waiting for you; have fun.

  • shepherdwong

    “Republicans are downright angry…”
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    So when do we (meaning you) get to stop reacting to that? It’s not serious and neither are they.

  • http://flounder73.wordpress.com pafro

    That garbage out the mouth of corporate toady, Max Baucus made me shoot iced tea out of my nose:

    Sure the nomination has languished for 3 months, but the Senate has an essential function to ask tough questions of executive nominees…when we get around to it in the year 2012, if our insurance company taskmasters consent to it.

  • shepherdwong

    In other words, it’s abundantly clear what motivated the White House to install Berwick via a recess appointment. But why do so less than three months after he was officially nominated?

    Isn’t a better question: why should they have waited?

  • grape_crush

    And let the fake, hypocritical outrage over recess appointments from the right-whingers commence!
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    Too bad y’all didn’t get the opportunity to manufacture outrage over Berwick’s nomination like you wanted; sure would have made for some great lies, er, talking points…and right before the elections too!
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    Poor babies. Did y’all feel the same way – your plans for a smear campaign now obsolete – when Hillary lost the Dem nomination to Obama?

  • newfreedomblog

    A well regarded scientist who says this…
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    ““The decision is not whether or not we will ration care — the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open.”
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    “Any health care funding plan that is just,equitable,civilized and humane must-must-redistribute wealth from the richer among us to the poorer and less fortunate.”

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    If this does not open your yes to Mr Berwick, then perhaps seeing him in the flesh on video, will open your eyes.
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    Start at 1:51 in the video and understand, healthcare in Mr Berwick’s eyes is “redistribution of wealth”.
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    We all know that most liberals do favor a system which redistributes wealth to others. This is how they continue to gain the favor of the less fortunate in our society. Your pound of flesh will be exacted from you whether you want to freely give it or not. Our government run by liberals at this time will exact that pound of flesh whether you like it or not.
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    Next recess appointment: “the Czar of Wealth Redistribution”

  • tstar3

    Another freeper…I have to ask you..commie to non-commie… Is it a crime if the guy said something nice about another country? A well qualified appointee renowned for his cost cutting skills is bashed because he is in love with France. Quick. get the Justice Department on line 1.

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    The reason I know you freepers and tea sippers are phonies because rather than focusing on what someone has done you rely on what someone has said. The awesome thing about my America is that you can say something and not everyone has to love it. If you were serious about our long term debt you should be shouting from the rooftops praising this appointment, but you are not, so I know you are not serious.

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    When you start focusing on policy and not politics, give me a ring freeper. Did you hear Obama’s making NASA drop space exploration to improve relations with the mooslims…or something like that. You guys need to get a new shtick. It really is becoming Yawn-Inducing.

  • tstar3

    Oh noes his approval is down…isn’t that the pre-req for impeachment? Did you also know it is way down amongst soy milk drinkers over 300 lbs?

  • kevin

    Seriously. Have you not been paying attention to what the Senate Republicans have been doing for the past eighteen months?
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    They have no interest in governing, or even in raising serious objections. They just want to drag their feet, slow government to a halt, and muck up the works.

  • tstar3

    Okay new freeper, enlighten us with your all knowing knowledge….How would you cut down costs?

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    And please don’t give me any boilerplate nonsense about illegals and welfare queens,k?

  • deconstructiva

    I’ll bet the Senate R’s didn’t mind Bush’s 171 recess appointments. IF 3x / rusty dare to criticize Bush to the same degree as Obama for making RA’s (#9 replies) it will be solemnly amusing, even IF their critiques violate Reagan’s 11th commandment. Or will they run away?

  • Alex Vallas

    While just an ordinary citizen, I wrote to the President recommending Don Berwick to a high level position. At that time either Secretary of Health or Surgeon General. Dr. Berwick is extremely knowledgable regarding healthcare issues including where to find waste and inefficiences. Those were my areas of expertise and after attending one of Dr. Berwick’s seminars was completely impressed with his ability to seek and identify numerous areas where our current healthcare system is lacking. The GOP — led by the obstructionist team of McConnell, Boehner and Cantor have shown (1) greater allegiance to party than country and (2) greater allegiance to self than party. The country comes in a pitiful third and possibly even further down in the minds of these pathetic individuals. I am personally curious why many GOP members of congress follow them blindly. Are they threatened?

  • 53_3

    I like it.
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    Too bad it’s a temporary appointment.
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    I’m all for any action that puts tire tracks down the backs of Rusty’s ilk…

  • 53_3

    Thanks, decon.
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    I’ve always felt that what’s good for the goose is good for the other goose.
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    The facts juxtaposed with Rusty and 3xfire3′s commentary is a more than adequate display of hypocrisy…

  • newfreedomblog

    “If you were serious about our long term debt you should be shouting from the rooftops praising this appointment, but you are not, so I know you are not serious.”

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    First and foremost Mr tstar, the entire “Afforable Healthcare Law” is an affront on our national debt, and apparently you missed the massive amount of comments I made in trying to have it defeated, mainly for the cost of it.
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    This law creates the largest public entitlement program in world history. It is predicted and has been confirmed by the CBO to cost upwards of 1.2 Trillion dollars over the next 10 years.
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    Agree or disagree with me on most subjects, but this is and will always be a bad bill/law. It will be unsustainable, especially as it is currently written. It will drive up the cost of heatlhcare insurance, as well as healthcare costs. We already spend as a Nation more than any other country for our healthcare. The Affordable Healthcare Act only makes that care even more expensive.
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    How’s that for shouting from the rooftops?

  • tstar3

    Thanks for the reply, Mrs. Freedom. My turn.

    (I don’t know how to embed, so here are quotes via Andrew Sullivan via the Tax Foundation (not a liberal rag).

    ““If the Medicare cuts in the health care bill are to be believed and CBO’s estimates pertaining to the health care bill are to be believed, President Obama has already done more to reduce in magnitude the long-term budget problems for the U.S. than the previous administration, who undoubtedly made the problem worse. That’s true despite the amount added to the deficit from the stimulus bill and the costly coverage provisions in the health care bill,” – Tax Foundation. ”

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    Thanks for playing.

  • jlnyc

    So to get this straight, many of you feel the Senate confirmation process is either necessary or unnecessary depending on whether the candidate supports your position? I can certainly understand that but let’s call it what it is: a double standard. And pointing to the number of Bush appointees doesn’t make it any more right this time around (and the comparison to this issue which has such an enormous impact on all of us is not really a comparison).

    The fact that the constant framing of anyone who raises legitimate questions or issues about the more progressive policy being pushed is obstructionism cooked up by the party of “no” (another tired one) speaks to the opaqueness of the blinders you have on. Closing your eyes and covering your ears while screaming “shut up, shut up, shut up” while the majority of the country has questions about a piece of legislation that impacts 20% of our economy (and other issues) is denying the reality of the centrist nature of this country. Moves like this from someone who promised transparency and ending of politics as usual just continues to drive independents like myself who voted for Obama away. The expectation was for incremental change, not to swing all the way over to the other side of the fence.

  • 53_3

    So tell me:
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    Who should be the first to not use the recess appointment strategy?
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    It sounds like you might be an “equivalency”…

  • 53_3

    Oops.
    .
    …an “equivalency” fan…

  • newfreedomblog

    If the Medicare cuts in the health care bill are to be believed and CBO’s estimates pertaining to the health care bill are to be believed…….
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    When is it when there are way too many, IFs, BELIEVE? and ESTIMATED all contained in ONE sentence. Now gosh-doggit, I know there is an English rule on having that many unknowns written into one simple statement, which makes it ALL theory or in plain english to say…..
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    IT’S REALLY ANYONE’S GUESS AS TO HOW MUCH THIS MONSTER IS GOING TO COST US

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    Isn’t that right Mr tstar?
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    Oh, could I interest you in some absolutely WORTHLESS swampland a dearly departed liberal friend of mine owned before he died and left me with it? I know it’s not worth crap, but you seem to be like my liberal friend, I thought perhaps you might like it too.

  • jlnyc

    At this point it unfortunately seems to be a necessary evil in this bs game played by a bunch of toddlers. The inevitable tit-for-tat means there is no correct answer to your question, as I’m sure you realized when you asked it. As the article points out, this is only putting Mr. Berwick in a tough position, particularly about his well-publicized views that suggest a fundamental difference on the role of government and how people have lived in this country to this point, and to that end fanning the flames that have kicked up as the administration’s objectives have become more apparent.

  • shepherdwong

    “So to get this straight, many of you feel the Senate confirmation process is either necessary or unnecessary depending on whether the candidate supports your position? I can certainly understand that but let’s call it what it is: a double standard.”
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    No, the Senate confirmation process is unworkable because Republicans have abandoned their duty to govern responsibly, choosing naked partisan obstruction of everything the administration and congressional majority tries to do instead. Since the Democrats never abandon that responsibility, even when facing deleterious consequences (see Justices Alito and Roberts), there’s no double standard.

  • earljr1

    Newfreedom, I think our liberal friends are too ignorant to understand the ramifications of this very significant poll. Independent voters will decide the mid term elections in November and be the deciding factor in putting Mr. Obama out to pasture in 2012. Let them continue to wallow in their ignorance and continue demeaning the tea party, it will only make victory that much sweeter! Keep up the good posts, I think you, 3x and freeinpa, offer the only sane commentary on this liberal infested site.

  • grape_crush

    So to get this straight, many of you feel the Senate confirmation process is either necessary or unnecessary depending on whether the candidate supports your position?
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    No. If the confirmation process becomes an impediment to conducting the business of government (such as when a Senate extortionist puts a hold on a candidate to win concessions elsewhere or partisan chooses to use the confirmation process – and nominee – as a pinata to beat on to drum up support), then, yes, recess appointments are acceptable practice.
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    Nice bit of polarization, by-the-way.
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    I can certainly understand that but let’s call it what it is: a double standard.
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    That would be applicable if you would rank an extremist like John Bolton the same as a Donald Berwick. As 53_3 put it, you’re using a false equivalency.
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    The fact that the constant framing of anyone who raises legitimate questions or issues…
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    You mean ‘legitimate’ questions like “Will there be death panels?”
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    …while the majority of the country has questions about a piece of legislation that impacts 20% of our economy
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    There are resources available where the ‘majority’ can find those answers, no?
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    Moves like this from someone who promised transparency and ending of politics as usual..
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    I thought you were one for incremental change? Oh, that’s later…
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    …just continues to drive independents like myself who voted for Obama away.
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    Most ‘independents’ actually lean one way or the other. Perhaps you think President Palin wouldn’t have done something like this?
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    The expectation was for incremental change, not to swing all the way over to the other side of the fence.
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    And here I was thinking that the expectation was for Obama to wave a magic wand and fix everything that’s wrong in an instant.

  • tstar3

    I just wanted to say that I read your reply, and I won’t dignify it with a response. Maybe a small one. Your entire analysis is based on what you believe, and nothing from a reputable source…I provide an analysis from a NON liberal outlet and you play the “If” game with me. Get a clue moron, unless you are Mrs. Cleo I don’t think anyone of us can see in the future.

  • grape_crush

    …his well-publicized views that suggest a fundamental difference on the role of government…
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    ‘Difference’? With who? Conservatives and libertarians?
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    Well, duh. Why do you think Obama got elected? It was a rejection of failed conservatism and dumb libertarianism, which came to a disasterous head in the Bush administration.
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    and how people have lived in this country to this point…
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    Funny statement, considering that people have lived with government involvement in their lives for quite some time.

  • tstar3

    Um, can I have some of what you are smoking earl? How bout that poll that shows the tea party at a 30% approval with a 40+ disapproval?

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    It’s amazing how you tea types conveniently forget RayGun’s approval was damn near 35% before he cruised to re-election victory..but again, those are facts, and I know you guys ain’t too keen to those thing-a-machigs..

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    Let me just start your reply for you…Obummer is no Reagan. Reagan was majestic and awesome and railed against welfare queens and lowered taxes and delivered us from those commies and physically tore down the great wall of china…and and and

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    FYI If you hate Swampland soooo much, I’ll take a page out of your textbook,…… You can either Love it or Leave it.

  • kevin

    From the link Rusty provided, but apparently did not read:
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    Obama is not alone in facing a challenging second year in office — Bill Clinton (43%), Ronald Reagan (42%), and Jimmy Carter (40%) all were below the majority approval level in July of their second year. Of course, each of those presidents saw his party lose a substantial number of seats in that year’s midterm congressional elections, though both Reagan and Clinton recovered in time to win a second term as president.

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    Yes, the Democrats will lose seats in November. That’s a certainty, and almost always happens in a president’s first midterm.
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    But if you all think this is the death knell for Obama’s re-election prospects, you’re dreaming.
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    (In his dreams, Baby Earl is a big important doctor! And in his dreams, Rusty is a Tyrannosaurus!)

  • earljr1

    Excellent commentary, jlnyc, the liberals on this site are highly offended that you have the audacity to criticize Mr. Obama and his motives. Independent voters (myself included) are extremely unhappy with the direction of our country and intend to voice this concern, come election time. Newfreedom posted the latest gallup poll at commentary #8 and it shows Independents giving Obama a 38% approval rating and those numbers are dropping with each ensuing poll. I also voted for Obama and have been seriously disappointed in his performance….he has flat out lied to us, about HCR, about his administrations transparency and about showing fiscal responsibility…enough with the lies and chicanery. We expected a lot better from this man and he has simply FAILED to deliver the goods. Thank you for entering this largely pro liberal blog and pointing out the concerns MANY of us have.

  • 3xfire3

    jlnyc,
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    Thanks for the thoughtful Posts. Your points are very well made and are accurate.
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    It’s nice to hear from a Sane person on this Blog. There are only about 5 of us Sane people that bother to post here on a regular bases.
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    There are about 20 Insane people who post here continuously. They are all Obama supporters right or wrong. They are pure Partisan Ideologies and it’s impossible to have an open minded debate with them.
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    Post what you believe and don’t worry about their insane comments. They can’t help themselves. Their minds are welded closed and they really don’t like our country very much.
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    With the Job Approval rating of Obama falling to 38% among Independents, they don’t understand what this means for the future of their leaders in government.
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    If Obama’s support among Independents had been at this current level in the last election, he would have lost by a substantial amount of votes.
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    As his policies and radical appointments continue, he is simply driving Independents away. Without Independents the losses in 2010 and 2012 will devastating to the Democratic Party.
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    But you will now hear from the Insane ones on how it’s not going to happen. As I said their minds are welded closed. They can’t help themselves.

  • deconstructiva

    Still waiting for 3x and rusty to criticize Bush for recess appointments as much as Obama (see 9.x comments)….

  • 3xfire3

    decon,
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    You are an Idiot.
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    How many times must I answer the same question which I answered in post 9.0 and 9.3?

  • deconstructiva

    There goes your pretty name-calling again, nice try at rational discourse you’ve seeked before. How many times should you answer? Only once… so where is it? Where’s your reply explicitly stating that Bush’s RA’s are “clearly an ‘Abuse of Power’” just like you wrote in 9.0?

  • apr2563

    George Bush spent 8 years subverting the Constitution. Did you complain?

  • 3xfire3

    Decon,
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    If you can accurately identify any Bush Recess Appointments that were made without going through the normal Senate hearing process then I would be happy to say they were totally wrong and should not have been done.
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    I believe I already said that is 9.3 above.

  • 53_3

    I remember back when Rusty used to claim he was a doctor.
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    And earljr1′s “sour grapes” at 8.3 is just that. Very few here seem to believe that even if he is a doctor, that he has any compassion for the human condition…

  • jlnyc

    Mr. or Ms. Grape Crush, your comments misconstrue and are full of suppositions of my viewpoints, colored by your own obviously strong political views and only serve to support my point of the opaqueness of the blinders you have on and unwillingness to stop screaming and listen to the other side of the story. There are two sides, remember? That’s why we have a two party system to put the other in-check. Apparently you feel that yours needs no check, so you can go on yelling and name calling, angrily entrenched in the deep bunker of your perspective, which is fine, maybe that works for you. But my guess (and my hope) is that cooler and more balanced heads will prevail in the end.

  • 53_3

    “There are two sides, remember?”
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    There are, but one of them is not rooted in reality.

  • hippooath

    jlnyc,
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    Sorry, but there are not two sides to anything. Yes, right and wrong, but you can’t claim two rights.
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    Not saying that both can’t be wrong, but in something like this you have to look at qualifications. If one political party abdicates their responsibility then you can use this form of appointment. Bolton was a completely different case; not qualified and hated the institution he was appointed too. It was a clear politicial move to circumvent real concern. In this case it’s one side putting a blanket hold on pretty much anything without even a fair chance for a hearing.
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    So no, there are not two sides to this coin. We can bemoan the need of these tactics to move forward but you have to put things in perspective; this is not a apples to apples comparison – you can’t strip the basic analysis of two candidates and call it equal.

  • 53_3

    I’m not trying to be gratuitously facetious, but what cooler heads exist on the GOP side that have any real power right now?
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    How do you compromise with Tea Party activists? How do you compromise with those whose only aim is to hand Obama his “waterloo”.
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    Those are just two examples, but keep in mind that these are not the only ones, and that the GOP has opposed everything Obama has tried to do from stimulating the economy to health care reform to financial regulation to holding BP responsible.
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    To sample the soup I refer to, all you need to do is compare the content of the wingnuts to those of other commenters.
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    And right now, in the GOP, it’s the wingnuts who control things….

  • 3xfire3

    Jlnyc,
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    I warned you. Their Insane. You can no debate Insane people. The 4-5 Sane people who post here have tried for a very long time and the Insanes are incapable of rational debate.
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    Common Sense is way beyond their capabilities.

  • akcoins

    newfreedomblog, The same thing was said by Eric Cantor the Rep. house whip. I didn’t hear all this gnashing of teeth when he said it. Once again the Cons show their hypocrisy.

  • tommariner

    Dr. Berwick’s past remarks do trouble me because I have a problem with rationing and redistribution, but we do have to give him a chance to actually act. Our President does have the responsibility to surround himself with those who he feels will help him administer. Yes the confirmation is an essential check and balance, but we have pretty much ignored that during the entire 111′th Congress.

    And, yes, every legislative and adminstration action this term is a false emergency — complain about the recess appointment if you want, but if a 3000 page healthcare bill passed with trickery overnight, this is small potatoes. It’s all a political calculation by someone who is certain he will get creamed in the polls in November.

    It’s like the Arizona law — stop speculating on what might happen and react harshly if your fears actually happen. Give the guy a chance.

  • akcoins

    Healthcare bill passed overnight with trickery? Where were you in the months before passage of this bill? Under a rock?

  • 3xfire3

    Jlnyc,
    ..
    I often state three Truisms when making points on this site.
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    Each time many Liberals here comment that these truisms are not true.
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    Kind of illustrates the lack of rational and logical thought infecting most Liberals on this site.
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    Truism 1.
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    There are two sides to every story and truth is usually somewhere in between.
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    Truism 2.
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    Figures don’t Lie, But Liars use Figures
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    Truism 3.
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    For something to be true it must meet the following 3 criteria.
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    1. It must be the truth.
    2. It must be the whole truth [ no half truths ].
    3. It must be nothing but the truth [ no BS to try and make something look like its true when its not ].
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    It is simply amazing how many of the Liberals on this site will argue that all 3 of these Truisms are false.
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    Their minds are so closed to reality that they can not understand simple logical Truisms.
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    It really confused some of them when they said Truism 3 was not true and I then told them it what we use in a court of law to determine truth. Some of them still came up with arguments as to why it still was not true.
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    They are really a strange group.

  • dumpdemliars

    Obama made this appoint to avoid having the public discover that Berwick is in favor of rationed health care (something Obama said would not happen, but then we all know what a liar he is) This administration needs to be stopped. They have no regard for the people of this country, only their agenda. I can only hope and pray that the Nov. elections will cripple the Marxist fool

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