Kerry Smokes Romney

Whenever we discuss food or drink or anything else we regard as good, we can easily understand the notion that there’s such thing as an optimum amount and such thing as too much. Why is this simple concept so hard to grasp when the subject is weapon systems? Once we had aquired enough hardware to render the entire planet uninhabitable, there was little to be gained by building more – but that didn’t stop the ‘logic’ of escalation.
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I occasionally think that the entire fate of humanity rests in our ability to solve this seemingly simple riddle.

Is this before or after we continue our drive to be a majority diabetic nation?

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“..the world’s most important elected office carries responsibilities, including the duty to check your facts even if you’re in a footrace to the right against Sarah Palin. More than that, you need to understand that when it comes to nuclear danger, the nation’s security is more important than scoring cheap political points.”
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If only John Kerry was a public speaker or if Iraq did not make GWB in 2004 a “wartime president” this man would have been in the White House.
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Although I prefer both Obama and Gore over Kerry, look at how articulate and well informed he is compared to GWB and Mittens Romney.
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In many – no, not all to be fair – the difference in knowledge is so vast between Democrats and Republicans that it is hard for me to imagine how a thinking person would ever vote for most of the Republican candidates.

“Although I prefer both Obama and Gore over Kerry, look at how articulate and well informed he is compared to GWB and Mittens Romney.”

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How long has Frenchy been in the Senate getting defense briefings? Let’s hope he accidentally heard at least some of it

Just how well informed was Bill Clinton? Ask N Korea, they are still laughing!

While I would agree with Kerry and his rebuttal to Mitt Romney (if true), what exactly did Romney say Joe Klein? I see you neglected to provide a link to the referenced speech or article Romney perhaps was cited by Kerry as having said in his footrace to the right against Sarah Palin.
For those who want it, it is here; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/05/AR2010070502657.html
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I also noted that both you, and the Washington Post neglect to post links to the actual “new START” treaty for someone to read for themselves to compare what Romney claims, and what Kerry interprets as what Romeny is mistaken by.
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Is that because you and the Washington Post believe the readers are not smart enough, or intelligent enough to read it for themselves?
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One thing the past year has proven. With healthcare, as an example. No matter how lengthy the document, or how much legalese is contained in these documents, We the People are not as stupid as you and the politicians may think. We are capable of reading it ourselves and coming to our own conclusions. As a matter of fact, we probably have a much better understanding on what these documents do actually say, rather than just taking the opinion of a former Presidential wannabe as fact, as referenced by a so called foreign policy TIME.com pundit. As a matter of fact as well, most of our politicians haven’t even read the documents themselves. READ THE BILL.
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If you are going to continue to blog Mr Klein, you are also expected to cite your sources and reference material.

agree 100%, but why are Your surprised?
There are only 10% Reps among scientists,
they blame Kagan for Howard, their last candidate was the last in the class and their idiot-darling with intellect of 5th grader settles Foreign Policy Manifesto (m that’s how does she see the World from her fenced porch .)
But the major reason is – reps for years developed disrespect to education knowledge and actually intellectual level, years by years. It gave the result – You would not be respected in Your community if You are …too smart…
Disdain of education helps Reps keep uneducated people by their side fooling them again and again.

Romney thinks MIRVed ICBMs can be mounted on bombers? Really?
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Maybe he should’ve learned more about military acronyms and strategic delivery systems before writing his editorial, since he seems confused by both.

Rusty,
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Considering your record here in the swamp, you are the last person I would say could easily understand legislation or treaties.
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Kerry had 49% of the vote.
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John McCain had 45% of the vote and the media is at his doorstep every morning wanting to hear every thought that comes into his head.
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Kerry and Gore both have more of a high ground to be interviewed than McCain and far, far more of a reason to be interviewed than Palin who cost the McCain ticket dearly two years ago.
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How about Mittens?
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He was the 49th most popular governor and ended a 16 year streak of Republican governors of Massachusetts and couldn’t come close to winning the nomination.
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If Kerry is, to you, a failure, then Mittens, by that standard is a village idiot.
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Then, again, by many people’s standards, Mittens is a village idiot.

“But the world’s most important elected office carries responsibilities, including the duty to check your facts even if you’re in a footrace to the right against Sarah Palin. More than that, you need to understand that when it comes to nuclear danger, the nation’s security is more important than scoring cheap political points.”

Mittenz got pwned.

“Ask N Korea, they are still laughing!”
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Yeah, just think of how well dubbya handled N Korea.
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Oh, do they love it when they are lumped in with Al Qada as a part of the axle of weebles, or whatever dubbya was trying to say by putting militantly atheist, anti-religious and ant-religious freedom (which atheists despise a lack of religious freedom) with obsessively and insanely militantly religious lunatics seeking to create God’s kingdom on earth.
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If only Clinton knew about the axle of weebles.

Romney’s article was included in yesterday’s (July 6th) Morning Must Reads, titled “Mitt Romney, sharpening his foreign policy stick, pokes Obama over START.” That’s how I found out about it.
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As for the Washington Post not including it, I don’t know. Maybe the editors think their readers can look the treaty up themselves.
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In any case, here’s the White House’s website for the treaty:
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http://www.state.gov/t/vci/trty/126118.htm
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Here’s The WH’s Key Facts about the New START Treaty:
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/key-facts-about-new-start-treaty
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Statement by the Press Secretary on the Submission of the New START Treaty to the Senate:
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/statement-press-secretary-submission-new-start-treaty-senate
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Defense Secretary Robert Gate’s June 17th speech to the Senate on the new START Treaty:
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http://www.defense.gov/Speeches/Speech.aspx?SpeechID=1489
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As well as Secretary Gate’s op-ed in the The Wall Street Journal supporting the treaty:
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703339304575240164048611360.html?KEYWORDS=Gates
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And finally, testimony from Pentagon officials at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings concerning the new START Treaty:
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http://foreign.senate.gov/hearings/hearing/?id=3859b691-5056-a032-5223-fe01a9e1e496

In case anyone else has had any problems with our dear friend, patricksartor.
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Enjoy your 3rd grade tactics with your new found friend, 53_3. He can tell you exactly how I feel about individuals like you and him.
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http://www.levelgroup.com/index.cfm?page=agents&state=profile&id=228&A.fn=Patrick&A.ln=Sartor

Just how well informed was Bill Clinton? Ask N Korea, they are still laughing!
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The laughter you’re hearing is over the fact that they got away with so much under Bush. Sweet Jesus, even a neocon like John Bolton thinks Bush’s policy to North Korea was reprehensibly lax:
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http://www.aei.org/article/27961

I already told you that I work in a field where the average income is about $200,000 per year.
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Sure, it’s been a slow year, but, you do know that interfering with my work would be illegal.
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Just ask Kevin Groenhaggen.
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You hide your identity since, obviously, you are very unlikely to make much money in the future.
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Realtors, commercial and residential, are independent contractors. You could annoy people at my work and gain no new friends doing so while, if it gets back to me, face harassment charges as Groenhaggen has faced or you can just deal with the fact that not everybody agrees with your warped ideology.

BTW: you will notice that, when you have, I have have refrained from calling you names. You will notice that there are conservatives who post who do not face name calling because they do not name call. So, please, take some personal responsibility for your own name calling when you get called names yourself. Refrain from doing so and you will, at the very least, hold the moral high ground to call others 3rd graders.
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How does citing Kerry and Gore as more successful than McCain make me a third grader?
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How does citing that Mitt Romney – with an amusing first name – was far less successful than even McCain at winning elections make me a 3rd grader?

Mr Sartor if it is not obvious to you, we do not have anything what-so-ever in common so far as our politics are concerned.
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I have never called you any names, nor have I made negative statements about your character to you as you did under this exact thread towards me. You have made it abundantly clear to me in past comments, that you are a potential physical threat to me, and have made specific threats against my life.
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I will ask you nicely, and one time more. Leave me alone. Bypass any and all of my comments from this point forward. Is that clear enough for you?

“You have made it abundantly clear to me in past comments, that you are a potential physical threat to me, and have made specific threats against my life.”
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First, you did make some extremely serious insults against me claiming, once that I was a child molester.
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Second, I do have that so-called “threat” saved.
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“Thanks for irritating new rusty. It is a worthy pastime.”
So going out of your way to piss people off in the course of political discourse is a “worthy pastime”?
No wonder no one in this country can have a useful discussion anymore; everyone treats it like Tupac vs. Biggie.
sasquatch08
March 28, 2010
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Sasquatch,
Sometimes I think of this as a part of a bipartisan think tank.
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Other times I think of being like the Machine Gun Kelly for the Democrats.
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Freeinpa and Newfreedomblog are just trying p o everybody.
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After a long debate, freeinpa was offline for a week.
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He was going off about the late Senator Moynihan but didn’t know what he was talking about.
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I put back in his place.
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I think he is changing his pastime to watching old movies instead of coming up with random things about Democrats.
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Newfreedomblog/rusty is next in my cross hairs. He is either going to learn to come up with valid explanations for what he says or change his hobby to stamp collecting.
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Yesterday Newfreedomblog was trying to say that Herbert Hoover was a liberal.

Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/03/27/obama-announces-15-recess-appointments/#ixzz0jaFcf8l4
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I “threatened” to debate you.
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“Mr Sartor if it is not obvious to you, we do not have anything what-so-ever in common so far as our politics are concerned.”
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First, we are both pro-life and, at one point you expressed a common interest in seeing financial reform.
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Second, if you do not wish your comments to be commented on (which is all I “threatened” to do) by me or by people who disagree with you, please find another place where everybody or most people agree with you or deal with people who comment on your comments.

When I said that I debated Freeinpa until he gave up making unfounded statements for a week and said that I would do the same to you, then, very obviously, there was no vague implication of any kind of physical action, but, debate.
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Why are you on a primarily liberal blog if you fear or feel threatened by or otherwise upset by debate?
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There is thin line between remarking on your previous misunderstanding of statements made by others both here and offline things you bring in and ad hominem attacks like the ones you launch so frequently.
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If you promise not to launch any more ad hominem attacks against anybody here (except in retaliation) and request that I not question your comprehension of legal documents, treaties, news stories, I can oblige.
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However, you remind me of some of the little second graders who walk up the biggest fourth grader, antagonize and poke him and then, after a shove, start crying.
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(BTW: I was a nice fourth grader – I am not bully type, not even as a young child.)
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Don’t launch any ad hominem attacks and you can hold the moral high ground in being offended at any directed at you.

Rusty,
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Let me remind you that contacting my place of employment, even though it will not have any impact, is as illegal as if some person were to contact your wife and other relatives to complain to them about you.
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Obviously I would, despite how difficult you are, be very offended if your wife, relatives and, if you have any, friends started getting phone calls or emails from the many here who find you obnoxious and would applaud your taking legal action to defend yourself against such people.
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Ad Homenim I would reciprocate. Contacting people in your personal life I would not.

Wooo Mittens, this ones gonna sting for a while!

Nice smack down Mr. Kerry!

Ah, just give Romney a few days, in typical Mitt fashion, he’ll change his position. He has serious committment issues.

Newfreedom,
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I was about to make a similar post. Thanks for providing the other side of the story.
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As any intelligent person knows [that of course leaves out JK and most of the Liberals on this site], there are two sides to every story.
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It’s always interesting how JK and the rest of the Liberals pick and choose to tell only those parts of the story that supports their political views. They are a very dishonest bunch.
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I wonder which staff member wrote the article for Kerry?
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He’s the one who graduated from Harvard with a lower point average then
George W. Bush. No wonder he lost the election.

Patrick:
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If it’s any consolation, since Rusty brought me up in impolite conversation, it might nice to point out that Rusty and Freeinpa got a rather severe spanking this morning.
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Knowing what Rusty thinks of me (or Freeinpa) can only be viewed as a plus, because it tells me they are having serious problems getting their bullsh!t out when I interfere.
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Like I said before, since I’ve been very busy, I won’t be able to contact you right away, but please wait to reply to anyone using my moniker until after I say so.
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I will provide you with a number that will also appear in the first email I send you, and that way, you’ll know by the timestamps that the first email with that email will be from me.

53,
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The first two or three times he started talking about calling the cops on comparing debate to a gunfight in an obvious metaphor, but, now it does not concern me.
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Groenhaggen is gone.
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Groenhaggen made very authentic threats and was, apparently, in contact with my company headquarters (where I am, basically, a subcontractor and, unless I were a very literal Nazi or, perhaps, an advocate of Stalin) they could hardly care less. (The odds are about 70/30 considering NYC that they are as liberal as I am – if they are or are not, work is work and politics is politics).

“I wonder which staff member wrote the article for Kerry?
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He’s the one who graduated from Harvard with a lower point average then
George W. Bush.”
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3x, in your unimaginable brilliance, you made yet another error.
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He’s the one who graduated from Harvard with a lower point average THAN
George W. Bush.”
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Einstein was so preoccupied with his obscure fascination with light which lead to the theory of relativity, he was a C student.
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For the record, the best estimate of GWB’s IQ based upon his various test scores is 125. That is, actually, one in 50 people who score that well.
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It is below mine, but GWB, as Gore said very appropriately was (and is) incurious.
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Raw intelligence is only the hypothetical ability to learn things. It does not involve knowledge obtained or, more specifically to GWB, a willingness to attempt to learn new things.
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3X, a piece of advice: when you want to call yourself brighter than everybody, double check your spelling/ word usage in that post. It makes your point more probable.

I take few chances. Groeny is a case in point.
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It would indeed be wonderful if we didn’t have to worry about the slanderers and worse when trafficking the internet, but it is just not to be.
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I don’t have the time to get as comprehensive as you do, but it is wonderful to watch how thoroughly they are defeated by an array of facts.

Kerry can’t smoke anybody. Romney foretold more things right about world and economic affairs than Obama did. Sorry, too much bias and slant in your “slam” to be credible.

Joe

It will be an interesting ticket with Palin and Romney running together in 2012 and I note that you are starting early to prevent it. It sure is interesting too.

Wow, this is obviously a liberal site with few conservative commenters but you guys get completely smoked and made fools of when debating. even when it’s 30 libs to 2 or 3 conservatives you guys lose. Sure 53 or Pat can throw there hands up and declare victory..but really your points are shallow and only bolstered by postings from liberal websites.

Keep up the spanking Newfreedom and freeinpa. It’s entertaining

Thank you ilikechips. When I first found and then began to comment on this site there were no other conservatives. Well, with the exception of one who laid claim to be a conservative and then was caught one day extolling the virtures of Hamas and Hezbollah. He hasn’t really been back since.
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Now I can count at least 15 others who share most of my conservative views.
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In my world, I call that a major victory especially when George Bush II was being so vehemently demonized, and Obama was claimed to be nothing short of the 2nd coming of Christ.
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In the imortal words of a billboard with George Bush II’s picture……Miss me yet???

Chips,
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For the most part you entered this blog belligerent and looking for a fight.
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You do have to understand that to me and, as far as I can tell without reading minds, other liberals here not about victory or defeat but about facts and misinformation.
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Romney made considerable errors in his assessment of a treaty with few changes from the one conservative Messiah Ronald Reagan signed.
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One thing Rusty and Freeinpa are blind to is, rather than the second coming, liberals almost all find Obama very watered down and too much like Gumby bending over backwards or just bending over for Republican votes to call himself a bi-partisan president.
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As for GWB, above and beyond ideology where he was somewhat more – but not dramatically more – conservative than his father, it was a matter of quality of leadership which has not only liberals but most conservatives finding his eight years an embarrassment to our country’s history.
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What is important to most of us is what is best for our country and, as Ronald Reagan’s START treaty was very good for our country, the renewal of the treaty with few changes is, also, very good for our country.
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Opposition to Obama taking, basically, a photocopy of what Reagan signed by people who, rightfully, loved it when Reagan signed the very same treaty is about people who care only about ideology and about “winning” or, more often, whining.

Wow! Joe Klein thinks that a Democrat politician is right and a Republican politician is wrong! In other shocking news, Timmy Sullivan, a nine year old boy living in Newton, Mass., thinks the Red Sox are “really awesome.”