Global Warming Vote

A motion to proceed to a resolution sponsored by Senator Lisa Murkowski, an Alaska Republican, that would express the Senate’s “disapproval” of the Environmental Protection Agency’s move this week to regulate greenhouse gases failed today 47-53. The Agency argues that it is complying with a 2007 Supreme Court decision in Massachusetts vs. the EPA where the court ruled the EPA should regulate such emissions.

Republicans said clamping down on such emissions would result in much higher energy costs for consumers, a price Americans can ill afford in this recession and one that could cost jobs. “My vote today was based solely on the reality that the Murkowski amendment was our only opportunity to prevent the EPA from issuing a set of blanket regulations which could produce unforeseen, damaging consequences for more than 1,600 businesses and industries throughout the country – including more than 30 facilities in Maine representing more than 8,500 jobs – during these already challenging economic times,” Senator Olympia Snowe, a Maine Republican, said in a statement.

Dems painted the opposition as being against action on global warming on behalf of big business, even as BP’s Deepwater oil leak spreads across the Gulf. “This is a vote between whether we recognize the greatest environmental risk of our time or whether we legitimize deniers of that,” Senator John Kerry said in a speech on the Senate floor. “The stakes for our country are enormous. And if you have any doubt about this, every day on television everybody is seeing what is happening in the Gulf.”

The issue did not break clearly along party lines. Six Democrats, including Senators Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu and Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, voted for the measure as they believe the issue is important enough to warrant congressional approval. “EPA regulation of greenhouse gases does not move us any closer to a clean energy future or to reducing our dependency on foreign oil. And furthermore, it simply is the wrong tool for addressing greenhouse gas emissions,” Lincoln said. No Republicans voted against it.

Still, the vote was instructive. It shows how much industry is chafing at the EPA’s moves to rein in greenhouse gas emissions and could provide some momentum to climate change legislation: just about any oil lobbyist will tell you that they prefer Congress drafting their rules – where their input will be weighed more sympathetically – than the EPA. At the same time, it shows the challenge ahead for leaders hoping to pass an energy bill in July: with only 53 senators on the record voting for the regulation of greenhouse gases, they’ll need to convince another seven if they hope to include climate provisions in order to overcome an anticipated filibuster.

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  • Paul-no not that one

    I understand moderate Senator Graham (S.C) has been supportive of energy and enviromental reforms.
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    How was he during the debate?

  • merlanai

    The closeness of this vote worries me.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    What I don’t get, is that even if you’re unwilling to accept CO2 caused warming, relying on fossil fuels has been a known dead-end for decades. The longer we wait the more disruptive the transition will be. But as long as the cash is flowing……….

  • http://www.twitter.com/jnsmall Jay Newton-Small

    Graham was noticeably quiet. And you’ll notice in the vote link I provided that he voted for the resolution.
    JNS

  • certifiablylazy

    It’s about 50 jobs, not 300M+ folks quality of life.

  • certifiablylazy

    100 jobs…

  • grape_crush

    “reign in” should be “rein in”, maybe?

    Although the idea of the EPA being the ‘Ruler of Greenhouse Gas Emissions’ isn’t a bad one.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Greenwald:

    “What happened in this race also gives the lie to the insufferable excuse we’ve been hearing for the last 18 months from countless Obama defenders: namely, if the Senate doesn’t have 60 votes to pass good legislation, it’s not Obama’s fault because he has no leverage over these conservative Senators. It was always obvious what an absurd joke that claim was; the very idea of The Impotent, Helpless President, presiding over a vast government and party apparatus, was laughable. But now, in light of Arkansas, nobody should ever be willing to utter that again with a straight face. Back when Lincoln was threatening to filibuster health care if it included a public option, the White House could obviously have said to her: if you don’t support a public option, not only will we not support your re-election bid, but we’ll support a primary challenger against you”

    “It should be apparent to any rational observer that confining oneself to the two-party system — meaning devoting oneself loyally to one of the two parties’ establishments without regard to what it does — is a ticket to inevitable irrelevance. The same factions rule Washington no matter which of the two parties control the various branches of government…. There is clearly a need for new strategies and approaches that involve things other than unconditional fealty to the Democratic Party, which weigh not only the short-term political fears that are exploited to keep Democrats blindly loyal (hey, look over there! It’s Sarah Palin!) but also longer-term considerations (the need to truly change the political process and the stranglehold the two parties exert). In sum, any Party whose leaders are this desperate to keep someone like Blanche Lincoln in the Senate is not one that merits any loyalty.”

  • justmy02cents

    classic “end justifies the means” thinking.
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    perhaps the EPA should “out-source” this responsibility to the EDF…you know make it a quasi-governmental agency in charge of protecting the snail darter by denying building permits for WESTWAY, which was built anyway(years later) and called West street for political reasons.
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    increasing the understanding of environmentalism to each and every American as part of our daily life has so much more value than EPA regulating CO2.
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    Rational Environmentalism is really the answer…trust the market forces that environmentally educated Americans will bring to bear on researchers to develop more environmentally friendly products, including auto manufacturers, on municipalities to act responsibly with solid waste, on builders and building material suppliers to use green technologies and recycled materials.
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    It merely takes some faith in the system and citizenry. A type of faith that radical environmentalists DO NOT HAVE.
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    I think we should anticipate many unintended consequences to any regulations that the EPA enacts….they are the wrong vehicle for this change.

  • southernbeale

    Graham did not vote for what was basically his own bill. I suspect he was just pretending to support it so he could water it down, then play GOP obstructionist an delay thde bill until it died.

    All we ever hear from the most moderate Republicans (which is not Graham, BTW) is that we need petroleum to “fuel the transition” to the green economy. But we never make the most modest steps toward that transition. When, pray tell, is this mythic transition going to happen?

    I don’t believe the dire warnings about increased energy costs but I also don’t think it would be the worst thing if that did happen. We’re already spending billions of dollars propping up this dying energy economy, $1 trillion on wars that are basically nothing more than protecting the West’s access to Middle Eastern oil. Why are those costs never reflected at the pump?

    I live in Tennessee. We suffered the worse ecological disaster (until the BP oil spill, that is) in December 2008 when 1.1 BILLION gallons of toxic coal ash sludge burst a dam at Kingston Fossil Plant and covered 300 acres of Roane County, TN. Just this week in Pennsylvania a blowout preventer failed and for 16 hours we had 35,000 gallons of gas and chemical-laden wastewater polluting the surrounding forests. National media barely covered these stories.

    The question remains: how long will we tolerate such things to prop up a dying carbon economy? There’s a reason we are using such risky oil and gas drilling techniques: because the easy stuff is gone. It’s gone. When will we transition from carbon to wind and solar? When?

    When?

    We need to get off the oil tit. We need to boycott petroleum. If not now, when?

  • justmy02cents

    It is beyond bad….once again empower the citizenry with the knowledge of the results of their decisions and let them decide what to do….that would be a good charter for the EPA regarding CO2….have them provide unbiased information to the public….

  • FlownOver

    We’re already paying for the carbon in economic terms, as it goes into our air for the financial benefit of the dirty energy interests without any compensation for our loss. The lack of a carbon cost to polluters is effectively a public subsidy benefiting those private interests.

  • justmy02cents

    what are you doing personally to lower your carbon footprint?

  • kevin

    Yeah, and then we can vote on evolution and gravity, too.

  • centfan

    “We need to boycott petroleum. If not now, when?”
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    Our WWII waited until battleships were rolling over in their berths. I figure a change in energy policy will either wait until $8.00 a gallon gasoline (F_ you George Will) or summer homes start popping up around Baffin Bay… in winter.

  • justmy02cents

    ding dong time for southernbeale to go to school:
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    America has enough coal, oil, and natural gas to support a thriving economy for generations to come AND is it in places that are a lot safer for extraction that a MILE deep in the ocean…..
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    Think ANWAR
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    Safe and proven technology exists to economically extract oil from ANWAR and transport it safely.
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    So here is your SAFE transitional OIL supply…right here at home in America…..i.e. NOT FOREIGN OIL.
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    The only thing stopping us is the EDF and the rest of the radical environmentalists.
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    I hope you do boycott petroleum…let us know how that works out for you.
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    A viable way to decrease OIL use is to become a rational environmentalist….insulate your home, change you windows, upgrade your heat and hot water system, install a solar array on your roof, turn off un-needed lighting, buy/lease high MPG cars.
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    If all Americans did this, our need for OIL would drop stupendously and the market forces would demand “greener” products.
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    Does this sound too simple……T R Y I T ….it works.

  • centfan

    “…trust the market forces that environmentally educated Americans will bring to bear on researchers…”
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    The same “market” funded researchers that said radiation and mercury would grow your hair and cure distemper.
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    “Radical” environmentalists blow the whistles. The public jumps. They call Congress. Congress h’rumphs and funds a few university studies. Something gets looked at.
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    justmyrand, your take on ideal reality has us all listening to thems that make the profit off our bones and we sit with our bottles of Viagra thinking it’s all good.
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    Umm, who is supposed to “educate” us on the environment now that the government is evil?

  • FlownOver

    2 scents:

    You’re like the old joke about the smart-aleck kid who, when told by his mother to finish his vegetables because there were children starving in China, responded “Name two.”

    Not that it’s any of your business, but I’m doing quite a bit in a number of small, easy-to-chew bites. We’re all part of the problem in varying degrees, but those of us acting locally and thinking globally can justifiably ignore cynical cross-examination from those who denigrate real effort.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “…trust the market forces that environmentally educated Americans will bring to bear on researchers to develop more environmentally friendly products, including auto manufacturers, on municipalities to act responsibly with solid waste, on builders and building material suppliers to use green technologies and recycled materials…”
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    Before real estate I sold Nissans including Nissan Altima Hybrids.
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    Guess what?
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    Even when gasoline prices kept on spiking higher and higher with a few thousand dollars more the beginning and between double and triple that amount back over the life of the car, people still did not want to buy a car with a new technology even though it could blow the doors off a Prius (which can, still, make up to about 90 MPH).
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    It is when micro economic and macro economic needs collide that government was made for.
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    It is in my best interest to put out as little as possible and to let somebody else go save the world. Multiply that by 300 million and the environment does not get saved.
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    Just like when it comes to minimum wage and worker protection. It is in every business owner’s interest to pay close to nothing for wages and to have everybody else pay a fortune for their workers. Why? If everybody but my own workers get paid a fortune, all of the people who work for somebody else buy what I have to sell by the truckload.
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    If market forces did the job without incentive and people in some strange altered state of human nature preferred to pay more for no known global benefit (with wasteful neighbors and countrymen) then marco economics itself would never exist and we all would already have our homes powered by solar, wind and geothermal energy (for heating and cooling) and have our plug in hybrids parked outside.
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    Now, if everybody else would switch to hybrid, I think I would like, with the resulting lower gasoline prices, a Cadillac Escalade SUV.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Justmy, are you a professional oil company lobbyist, or do you just play one online?
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    You are not taking into account China and India growing and wanting to grow the same way that we did by guzzling down massive amounts of fossil fuel.
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    The higher energy costs are, the more people work to conserve them.
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    Also, the large the demand for things like solar panels, the better economies of scale operate for producers followed by more R&D making things cheaper.
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    When they become cheap enough, it will be an easy and affordable sale to China and India to have green growth instead of ‘do as I say, not as I do’.

  • shepherdwong

    Six Democrats, including Senators Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu and Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, voted for the measure as they believe the issue is important enough to warrant congressional approval. “EPA regulation of greenhouse gases does not move us any closer to a clean energy future or to reducing our dependency on foreign oil. And furthermore, it simply is the wrong tool for addressing greenhouse gas emissions,” Lincoln said.

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    If you are going to publish their absurd lies verbatim, without analysis, please do spare us the speculation about their motives. I could just as easily say that they believe the issue is important enough to their patrons in the energy lobby to make sure EPA regulation of greenhouse gases does not move us any closer to a clean energy future because they’re being paid by dirty energy companies to prevent it. It would still be speculation but I’d probably be a lot closer to the truth.

  • ilikechips

    i love checkin in on this libbie site once in a while. One thing is clear ..obese Patrick thinks he is smart but his posts make him look semi retarded. not sure if he knows this or not. also saw he posted address and phone # with somebody he disagreed with. you are a major douche bag for doing so, How would u like a posting giving up your real estate biz in NY…

  • Cliff

    Seconded.

  • allthingsinaname

    I can not believe that there is even any need to vote on this.
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    Press where are you? Where are the reports on the damage to human health in the cities? If for no other reason, this is enough to look at the pollution.
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    Why are you just telling us about what these dipsticks in DC are doing, and not telling us why it is stupid of them to do it . If you are going to inform, then educate.

  • apr2563

    Pundits were wondering the last couple of days how progressives weren’t willing to support Lincoln. She is a moderate.
    Today, Matthews had on the always smarmy Mr. DLC, Harold Ford. He was so disappointed in the Unions and there support of Halter. Matthews went on to say how Dems musn’t expect to always have loyalty from their pols. Then I stopped watching because they had no one on to refute them and I was getting ill. Harold Ford and Lanny Davis do that to me.
    Maybe he called Pat Buchanan in from his bat cave to give his opinion. Who knows?

  • apr2563

    Harold also blamed his carpetbag failure in NY on progressives. I guess he forgot how pathetic his attempt on running was.

  • apr2563

    During the 2nd world war gas, food and other commodities were rationed. Today repuplicans would propably oppose rationing as socialist control over corporations.

  • FlownOver

    And “chaffing” might oughta be “chafing,” I suspect.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I couldn’t agree more.
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    For beef, most vegetables, gasoline among over 100 things which you could not buy “free market”. It was price controlled and you needed a ration book coupon to buy it.
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    It was significantly before my time, but, my grandfather was a part of the special wartime auxiliary police called “Air Raid Wardens”. During drills determined by the city the air raid alarm would go off and people like my grandfather were going down the street to make sure that every home, office, store and factory had all of their lights shut off during the drill. if you so much as stood on the corner smoking a cigarette (which was far, far more common then than now) you could be taken away in handcuffs.
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    Then, again, after the war it was discovered that one German sub lifted it’s periscope and saw the Manhattan skyline.
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    I bet today’s Republicans would be black market traders refusing to do their share, refusing to pay the top tax bracket of 90% and proudly turning on every light in the house just begging a German air raid to destroy the city just to prove a point.
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    If anybody knows their history, they know that the people of the 1930s and 1940s were, in most ways, so liberal that anybody to the left of Father Coughlin would, in today’s world, be regarded as a liberal Democrat.
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    Back during the second world war people understood what it means to be a nation rather than a huge group of self centered, self serving and self absorbed individuals who never, ever for any reason make any sacrifices for the greater good.
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    Being a member of a nation sometimes means that you have to join in and make a sacrifice from time to time.
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    (BTW: that grandfather was a Republican as was all of that generation of my family. However, being a Republican then doesn’t mean what it means today.)

  • sacredh

    “Yeah, and then we can vote on evolution and gravity, too.”
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    My MIL would vote against gravity. It has been very cruel to her.

  • allthingsinaname

    It merely takes some faith in the system and citizenry.
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    I have little if any. Having said that I think what we are trying to do here is have the impact you suggest. Having faith is leaving it to some one else or, is it taking action on your own?
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    You seem to suggest that we just step aside and let the free market decide which doesn’t really come down on the side of prudence. It as usual is on the side of a quick buck in the next year or two or, how do I milk this for what I can get?

  • http://www.twitter.com/jnsmall Jay Newton-Small

    Fixed… tnx.

  • shepherdwong

    “America has enough coal, oil, and natural gas to support a thriving economy for generations to come…
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    To paraphrase, in generations to come, we’ll all be dead. It appears that people too stupid or brainwashed to know that burning fossil fuels is killing us will make sure of it.

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