The Journalist and Sarah Palin

Hi everyone. As the latest addition to Time’s Washington bureau—as well as the estimable Swampland team—I guess I should introduce myself. I’m Michael Crowley, and I’ve just joined Time after a long and happy stint at The New Republic, where I spent nearly a decade covering national politics, presidential campaigns, and, most recently, Barack Obama’s foreign policy. (You can read more about all that here.) Naturally I’m delighted to be part of another great institution, and am happy to get rolling this week with my first print article, a look at Rand Paul, his father Ron, and their critical role in the Tea Party movement.

And here’s my opening thought for the blog: Joe McGinniss should not be living next door to Sarah Palin. Of course the storied author has every right to rent a house overlooking her back yard in the service of reporting a biography of the former Alaska governor. But there’s a difference between what’s legal and what’s proper, or wise.

My first objection is that politicians, even combative ones whom many people loathe, deserve a degree of privacy. (Yes, there are exceptions, for instance when their private behavior seems to have a direct bearing on their public duties). Much the way free speech rules protect everyone from preachers to haters, it doesn’t matter what you think of Sarah Palin. If you believe in Hillary Clinton’s right to privacy, then you also have to support it for the pit bull with lipstick.

And what does McGinniss hope to learn anyway? As Kate Pickert noted, Palin has already erected a tall fence blocking his view, and even if she hadn’t I suspect McGinniss wasn’t about to be privy to any wild parties. This feels like a publicity stunt—a brilliant one, to be sure, but not a mark of serious journalism. McGinniss’s son is defending his father on the grounds that proximity to a subject is essential to good journalism. I suppose that depends on what kind of journalism you’re doing. The best way to understand Palin, I suspect, is to report out how she makes decisions, what she really believes, what forces in the Republican Party support and oppose her. Not to observe her private home life. Political journalism should not emulate The Real World. (I consider it mitigating, but not absolving, that McGinniss was apparently offered the rental by the house’s owner, who has a financial axe to grind at Palin.)

Which leads to what really bothers me about McGinniss’s gimmick. It is bad for journalism. It plays right into the hands of the many people—including Sarah Palin, who is shrewdly ridiculing McGinniss—with an interest in portraying reporters as creeps with no sense of decency. Journalism faces a credibility crisis, and reporters’ motives are under attack by outlets like Fox News, Media Matters and a thousand merciless blogs. Joe McGinniss’s very clever but utterly hollow stunt, it seems to me, exacerbates that problem. That doesn’t only make life harder for all his colleagues, but it makes life easier for people who want to undermine trust in the media. People just like Sarah Palin.

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  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    The whole thing can be best understood as a symbiotic relationship. Certainly our intrepid author isn’t going to gain any additional insights into Palin by his proximity, but he’s certainly drawing attention to himself. Palin too does nothing but gain from her whining about all the attention people are paying to her.
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    Having said that, I have to just flat out state that the reason journalism gets such a bad name is because it sucks.
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    As I’ve said before, human attention is not under conscious control, and the things we need to pay attention to in order to understand the world and the things that we find rivetting are usually at opposite ends of the spectrum.
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    And your first act here on Swampland is to contribute 510 more words to the problem!

  • gloriousglo2

    …probably trying to get a few brief peekaboos into Bristol’s bedroom window, just some harmless fun, I’m sure…

  • destor23

    Welcome. I suggest you write about things that are either more important or at least amusing. There are too many posts here on this non-story and Sarah Palin is over-exposed for somebody who is basically just a television commentator and employer of ghost writers.

  • hellslittlestangel

    I can think of few blog topics that say “inauspicious debut” as strongly as Palin does.

  • nflfoghorn

    What does it say that you counted them all??? :)
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    Welcome aboard, Emcee. And to Swampland, where iong and happy stints come to die. ;)

  • nflfoghorn

    =long=

  • http://www.davesromanticpiano.com durangodave

    Sorry Michael, the problem with journalism is best illustrated by the fact that “journalists” keep acting like Sarah Palin is something besides a self-promoting con artist who knows next to nothing about much of anything and keep treating her like she is a serious politician. It’s all ‘individual freedom’ and ‘keep government out of our lives’ until someone commits the perfectly legal act of renting a house. Then, ‘He’s trying to peek in my daughter’s window!’ Give me a break.

  • Ivy_B

    Welcome, Michael. I have tried very hard not to drive up the comment numbers on these posts about Palin because even a large number of comments gives them an importance far above their worth.

    There are a lot of very smart people who comment here (and many more who did until the Glenn Beck cover story was the last straw for them) and I have learned a lot from them. That is the main reason I’ve stayed from the beginning of Swampland.

    If you write substantive posts, you will be a great success here. We have missed Karen.

  • kathy

    wow – I tend to be warm and fuzzy about new recruits to the Swampland, but you seem to have made a whole lot of unsupported judgments (as opposed to opinions).

    1) You’ve assumed McGinnis is hoping to learn something by spying (because you’ve suggested he’s been thwarted in that by a fence) What makes you think so?

    2) If McGinnis stalks SP within the meaning of the law I’ll be right in line to have him prosecuted. But otherwise, she has no more right to choose her neighbors than any of the rest of us do. The right to privacy doesn’t mean you have the right to not have neighbors you don’t like, or even neighbors who take more of an interest in you than you’d like.

    3) “The best way to understand Palin, I suspect, is to report out how she makes decisions, what she really believes, what forces in the Republican Party support and oppose her. Not to observe her private home life What exactly makes you think he’s not planning on following your description of the best way to understand her?

    4) Calling what another person does a “gimmick” without knowledge of motives is also not journalism.

    5) “It plays right into the hands of the many people…with an interest in portraying reporters as creeps with no sense of decency.” Ah, there’s the problem. You might be tainted by McGinnis’ activity?

    6) Yes, what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, etc., but what does Hillary Clinton have to do with this?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    I’m not sure I buy the premise of your Rand Paul article either. I’m finding it highly entertianing that Paul has had his success in KY and is now bringing Mainstream attention to what the Libertarian’s have been arguing for years, but I don’t beleive that the Tea Party is getting anywhere near the energy from the Libertarians as you seem to imply. Do you really think that if you attended a Tea Party Rally and asked around that you’d run into widespread revulsion over the Iraq war and the waterboarding regime and Telecom immunity?
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    I doubt it sincerely.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    What rights to privacy do citizens have to protect them from Palin’s idiocy, especially those who live in big cities and hate America?

  • gysgt213

    Hi Michael. So glad you are here. Got one question for you.
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    When was your last interview with Sarah Palin?

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Seriously, could we just go ahead and change the name to “Sarah-palin-land”

    And a question: does Fox News = Media Matters? Should journalists’ motives be under attack? Is undermining trust in our current media a bad thing in your opinion?

  • gysgt213

    By the way Kathy. That was really pretty.

  • gysgt213

    “Is undermining trust in our current media a bad thing in your opinion?”
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    A lot of the left thinks the media is collectively incapable of doing its job, does not know what its job is and is pretty much full of crap.
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    The right thinks that anything outside of Fox News is liberal Bias. Anything.
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    Not sure trust is even an opition anymore.

  • nflfoghorn

    opition = opinion + option :)

  • Ivy_B

    kathy, that was very fine. You are one of the originals I was referring to.

  • kevin

    Sarah Palin wants her privacy. I know this because she’s constantly sending out Facebook updates, appearing on Fox News and calling into Glenn Beck’s radio program.
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    And Sarah Palin wants her children to be left out of the conversation. I know this because she’s always the one who brings them up first, and whenever she gets pushback for one of her mean-spirited attacks on others, she rushes to hide behind her children.
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    And Michael, I love your work at TNR, but the less time you spend on this attention addict here, the better.

  • sevenoaks07

    Michael: welcome. I am disappointed that for your first post here you added yet another load of ephemera on Palin. What is happening in Palin’s neighbourhood pales into insignificance compared to what is happening in the Gulf. McGinniss can look after himself. Do you have anything on a more serious topic?

  • gysgt213

    In my defense engwish is my only language.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    By the way Gunny. That was really pretty.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    On the one hand, I agree with you (in fact, I was talking about legal vs moral rights), on the other hand, it’s been pointed out that this author is fairly legit and reasonable in his writing and has done these kinds of things before which makes me feel like he has more of a legitimate reason to do the same thing if that’s what he needs to do to actually get to the legit story.
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    I guess it really depends on his motives here. Is he there for a publicity stunt, to talk about her private life, etc? Or is he there because he can actually use this technique effectively to get to the heart of the story? If the latter, then whatever. If the former, the guy should get lost.

  • gysgt213

    You know Michael could actually maybe almost get an interview with this author. Palin on the other hand would laugh in his face.

  • Friar Tuck

    I consider it mitigating, but not absolving, that McGinniss was apparently offered the rental by the house’s owner, who has a financial axe to grind at Palin.
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    Vintage Joke Line. Sigh.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Perfectly put, Kathy,
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    Much nicer than I would have put it so everyone should thank you!

  • Paul-no not that one

    For those needing a break from Sarah the Armed Service Committee voted to end DADT.
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    16-12. Collins with the majority Webb with the minority.
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    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/senate-panel-votes-to-end-dont-ask-dont-tell.php?ref=fpblg

  • sacredh

    Welcome Michael.

    “The best way to understand Palin, I suspect, is to report out how she makes decisions, what she really believes, what forces in the Republican Party support and oppose her. Not to observe her private home life.”

    There’s quite a bit of building going on. Ted Stevens
    probably thought nobody would find anything out by watching his home either.

    Who would have thought there was story connected to Gary Hart and his boat? News is where it happens, not where it’s necessarily public.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Good news P, though much work left to be done. Hugely disappointed in Webb.
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    Another worthy topic would be Alan Grayson’s latest spectacular effort:
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    Or, I dunno, the spooky sh!t happening on the Korean Peninsula? Perhaps the paparazzi could ask if SP can see that far. That’s the rubric for media coverage these days, right?

  • megatronrises

    Welcome to the Swamp Michael.
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    I look forward to what you have to say.

  • xxception

    He’s not doing much different than the “vast right-wing conspiracy” did to the Clintons. Did you bemoan it or were you ok with it? Would you be ok with what you considered a “right-wing, mud-slinging” author moving next door to the Clintons and looking at or into their house with binoculars? If you’re ok with the, at least you are consistent. If not, you’re a hypocrite.

  • xxception

    You act as if there aren’t degrees of Libertarians. You think Dems can be liberal, moderate, or right of center, but don’t think Libertarians can? Why wouldn’t individual Libertarians have different opinions on things just as individual Dems and Repubs do? To think all Libertarians would toe the party line is as foolish as thinking all Dems or Repubs do.

  • xxception

    Just ignore. Problem solved. Nobody is making you pay attention to her.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Sadly the Senate’s version of Alan Grayson, Russ Feingold, just saw his own bill to establish an exit timetable for the war in Afghanistan go down (80-18). If this bill had come up for a vote with a GOP president in office, how different would the vote have been? Dem. enabling of Bush’s wars notw/standing. More sadly yet, dem. activists seem just as passive as their elected reps.

  • xxception

    You convenienly leave out that Hart DARED the media to follow him and look into his private life because nothing was there and they would be wasting their time. That’s just asking for trouble.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    What I find interesting is that Rand has gotten so much more press than Ron. Why is that, do you think? Might it be his penchant for compromise with standard GOP positions? If the TPs are simply a vehicle for more republicans in congress, if they’re going to validate neoconservative excess, then they have damned little to do with libertarianism.
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    Rand Paul, from what I’ve seen thus far, is as much a libertarian as Obama or Clinton is a liberal. Ron Paul, OTOH, is the equivalent of Dennis Kucinich–the type of iconoclastic figure who will be ignored or barred from serious coverage.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    TNR – great? Not since that deranged racist Marty Peretz sat his rentboy buttocks down in the owner’s chair. As for Crowley, if this article indicates the quality of his journalism, one hopes he finds a more suitable profession. Perhaps Chris Matthews needs someone to lick his intimate crevices?
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    Fact: McGinniss has every right to rent the house. Fact: Sarah Palin has made libellous and despicale allegations, based in nothing.
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    Does Crowley defend McGinniss and his right of free speech and freedom to choose the residence of his choice? Hell no, he drops trou and kisses Palin’s fascist ass. No wonder the country is in trouble when this invertebrate little whore can call himself a journalist.

  • redraven937

    Journalism faces a credibility crisis, [...]

    Perhaps you should have spent your first blog post trying to puzzle through why that is, instead of contributing more vapid nonsense into the tubes.

  • kevin

    If Joe McGinnis starts selling stories that Sarah Palin is trafficking in cocaine, or that Todd had her lover killed and made to look like a suicide, then the comparison to the “right wing conspiracy” that went after the Clintons is valid.
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    Until then, not so much.

  • Art Pepper

    Journalism faces a credibility crisis

    Now why would that be? (*cough * Judith Miller …)

  • Art Pepper

    Hey! My prediction about Collins is happily proved wrong.

  • hellslittlestangel

    By now I’ll bet the poor guy has deleted what he intended to be his second post: Gary Coleman: Is He Going To Die?

  • Cliff

    Here’s hoping that Crowley goes uphill from here.

  • 3xfire3

    Michael,
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    Welcome to the Swamp.
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    I’m one of only a few conservative who bother to post here. I am a retired 71 year old veteran. I consider myself a moderate conservative with a strong belief in helping people in need.
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    My approach to helping others is different than most of the Liberals who post here.
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    95 % of the people who post here are Liberals. They all hate Sarah Palin and not one of them has shown any compassion for her and her family in this violation of privacy situation.
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    Their hate is so strong that they have lost all moral foundations as citizens of our democracy.
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    My hope for you would be that you would try to show a level of balance in your reporting. Most of your new TIME partners do not.
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    Again welcome aboard.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Well, if he’s blood-kin to Candy, it’s going to be all good

  • sasquatch08

    This whole thing seems a bit ridiculous to me. Certainly this man has a right to live where he wants, and Sarah Palin has the right to build a large fence.
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    Is what he’s doing illegal? Certainly not (as previously mentioned as long as it doesn’t devolve into stalking). Is what he’s doing creepy? Absolutely. Is what he’s doing necessary to his research? Probably not.
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    Ultimately I suppose it all revolves around his intentions and actions. If he merely wants to see “Sarah Palin in her natural habitat” to get a better feel for his publications OK, but if he’s there to publish what she likes in the bedroom, other strange details of her life of if he’s there only to creep her out he’s sorta… well not sorta, he’s a dick. But being an ass isn’t illegal as far as I know or there would be 535 people in jail in DC every single day.

  • kevin

    Michael, it helps if you imagine a sad violin as you read 3xfire’s melodrama.
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    And for newfreedomblog/rusty — I recommend the happily insane calliope music of the circus.

  • chohkmah

    95 % of the people who post here are Liberals. They all hate Sarah Palin and not one of them has shown any compassion for her and her family in this violation of privacy situation.

    This is the same “respect my priva-sehh!!” Palin who routinely uses her children as human political shields when substantive issues are brought to the debate.

    But it’s alright, xfire, I know you well enough to know what “balance” means to you. Balance must come before all else, even (and especially) accuracy.

  • tkoa

    Hi Michael,

    Welcome to the best place in the world to hone your journalism skills! With excellent commentators like jcapan, Paul Dirks, megatronrises, Stuart (whose handle is too complicated for me to spell correctly) and many others, you’ll find this place great!

    Unless you’re peddling all opinion and no facts (or ignoring lies or not commenting on them when they happen) then you’ll find it a pretty rough place to post. :)

    As for your Sarah Palin post… Firstly, your assumption is woefully incorrect. If people could find nothing by watching others and where they live then the police would never have stakeouts, they would never spend their time in cars watching a place just in case ‘something’ happens.

    Not once did you refer to his previous work or his output to see if it was scholarly or well researched which indicated to me that your expressing your immediate opinion trumps your desire to research the event.

    I don’t honestly care if you agree or disagree with this person’s journalistic approach, I just want you to tell me why he’s doing this and I would assume the only way to do that would be to ask him. Is that a difficult feat to do in this information age? To ask someone. Hell, even if you don’t like using the phone, you can still email the man. (I would assume)

    Better yet, you know where he lives. How about politely going to his rental property and knocking on his door and asking him to explain his side of the story.

    Or is that too intrusive? Asking another reporter their reasons for why they report that way?

    There is a story here. For example, why did the neighbour have an axe to grind with Sarah Palin? Isn’t, that, I don’t know, more interesting (and factual) than passing of your opinion on a hot topic in a news website?

    Alright, maybe I do care. But I’m grumpy solely because Sarah Palin’s one claim to fame is that she has Charisma and unless American Politics is a Black Books episode, I’m not sure that qualifies her more than a few lines after 2010.

    Good luck while you’re here and… well, just a simple request, more facts about issues that matter please! :)

  • http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com lawyermommy

    What makes this a stunt?? A foolhardy “journalist” who goes and MOVES IN next door to his “quarry” is a NUT. What did he think or expect from her or anyone else for that matter????

    Most women would be alarmed by such conduct. In many ways, this man’s conduct is menacing.

    The word journalist is tossed around these days with great aplomb but in reality are all these people journalists???? This big gorilla journalist is a hoot. What a loser!

    Sarah Palin’s modus operandii is clear to the world to see, moving next door to her was meant to make some sort of stupid statement and it did. However, McGinniss the NUT JOB is the one that ended up looking completely foolish. Why go to this sort of extreme against a woman.

    I guess he tried to intimidate her or something even more foolish. What was the purpose of moving next door to her? Is that the only way he could have obtained information on her? Is that what he was taught in school?? Is that what being a journalist is about?? Is this not obsession and errant nonsense! It is.

    Would this man have moved next door to JOHN MCCAIN in order to write a story on him??

    I think it is atrocious to minimize the acts of this clown so called journalist.
    Yes, Palin wants publicity in order to make a living but that does not give anyone the right to act in a menacing way. Move in next door. What a pathetic TOUT.

    The issue is not what he intended or expected to see, the issue is what can be gleaned from this man’s erratic and unwarranted act of aggression against a woman and her family. Oh, yes, there is a mousey man that lives with Palin. Todd=Cat :)

    Anyhow, these types of acts of aggression against women should NOT and cannot be minimized. To focus on Palin’s character as opposed to the aggressive act of this man is wrong.

    I will not be voting for Palin for President, if she decides to run, but no matter what, she should not be subjected to any form of stalking or harassment by some empty barrel of air, some errant so called journalist, a nut case who makes journalism look absolutely crass.

    Messy!!

    LM
    http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/criminals-use-technology-to-trackrape-and-kill-innocent-people/

  • kujan

    Andrea Mitchell behaving like a Fatal Attraction Glenn Close at a Palin book-signing.

    Norah O’Donnell giving the third degree to a 16 year old girl waiting for a Palin autograph.

    Hell, the very existence of Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Richard Wolfe, Joy Behar, Larry King, Howard Fineman, Margaret Carlson, Eugene Robinson, Chris Hayes, Katrina VandenHeuvel, George StuffASockInIt, Brian Williams, Bob Schieffer, David Gregory, Chuck Todd and let’s not forget The Perky One…

    I hope you’re the exception, Mr. Crowley, but from where I sit, pretty much the entire mainstream media ARE creeps with no sense of decency.

  • tkoa

    I’m curious Kujan,

    How would you suggest someone obtain verifiable facts without becoming creeps?

    Assuming, that perhaps people may lie from occasion to occasion when it serves their purpose?

    Also seeing that all the news reporters on this website are part of the MSM, are they all creeps too? And if so, could you please provide evidence of their creepiness?

  • xxception

    kevin, you are merely trying to paint it by a few extreme examples. you leave out shady whitewater deal, papers found in Hillary’s quarters she swears she doesn’t have, I could go on, but you may get the point. you are absolutely right about the 2 examples you posted. the problem for your argument is i’m willling to bet less than 30% of REPUBLICANS even took those accusations seriously. the loons are always the one that get disproportionate attention. to simply ignore the ones you don’t want to believe and use extreme examples that a only very small minority of the opposition even took seriously to discredit them all is disingenuous at best.

  • xxception

    What’s funny is I remember many people on this same site wanting Tiger Woods, a man who makes his living entirely off the public, to have his privacy. A man who has parade his wife around at tournaments and done interviews with his wife. Somewhat of a double standard.

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Crowley:

    Journalism faces a credibility crisis, and reporters’ motives are under attack by outlets like Fox News, Media Matters and a thousand merciless blogs. Joe McGinniss’s very clever but utterly hollow stunt, it seems to me, exacerbates that problem. That doesn’t only make life harder for all his colleagues, but it makes life easier for people who want to undermine trust in the media. People just like Sarah Palin.

    Let me get this straight…you’re associating people who publicly fault the integrity of the political press corps in this country with Sarah Palin?
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    Is there something particularly wrong with undermining “trust in the media,” or attacking the motives of reporters, or even making life harder for your colleagues?
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    Why exactly does journalism face a credibility crisis?
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    Why exactly do journalists deserve credibility, Michael Crowley?

  • http://AmericanElephant.wordpress.com American Elephant

    What on Earth does the Obama’s Ministry of Truth, Time Magazine, know about journalism??? You gave up journalism for producing propaganda LONG ago.

    (See article excusing Obama administration for illegally bribery for just one example).

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Welcome aboard Michael Crowley. Although I no longer comment here as often as I did pre-Beck era. I am hoping that your joining the team is a signal that swampland is trying to regain the interest of those who have faded away. I am a firm believer that journalism is in desperate need of constructive self-criticism and your willingness to call out your brethren gives one hope. Unfortunately, your maiden post hardly qualifies as constructive and is clearly missed the mark on relevance.
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    Perhaps if you truly want to elevate the journalism game and want to help restore its former glory, you might want to work on convincing your colleagues to return to their traditional role of watchdog and abandon this insane new role as propaganda facilitator. This incessant need to engage in false equivalency, repeat daily talking points regardless of voracity and failing to deviate from a prescribed narrative are all factors far more detrimental to the credibility of journalism than one guy getting too close for personal comfort.
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    Moreover, one would think that trying to get close to Palin would make a lot of sense to her. After all, she tried to convince an entire nation that being able to see Russia from her front porch was an informative position. I would think that she must believe that living next door will make McGinnis at least as knowledgeable about the subject of Palin.

  • http://AmericanElephant.wordpress.com American Elephant

    =Obama= , =illegal=

  • diecash1

    you leave out shady whitewater deal,

    Talk about disingenuous and reaching. IIRC, Starr’s investigation into Whitewater turned up exactly zilch and cost the taxpayers millions.

  • diecash1

    Their hate is so strong that they have lost all moral foundations as citizens of our democracy.

    Deranged and senile old timer as the arbiter of all that is moral and decent? Give it a rest. You’re a hack and hardly anyone would call you honest or moderate.

  • allthingsinaname

    Isn’t this topic better suited for the Enquirer?

  • allthingsinaname

    The tale of Rand Paul’s stunning — and now controversial — success is really an outgrowth of his father’s unlikely crusade.
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    The only thing stunning about it is the stupidity of the people who vote for him, and the lack of any critical coverage of our politicians by the Press. The crap that is generated by the Press Corps, can better be found on you tube, and if I want to see Politics in action I can see it on you porn.
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    Why the hell do I need you guys to just repeat what they say?
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    Enough of this Palin idiot please.

  • jbk123

    Nice to know where you’re coming from, at least, and duly noted for all your future work here. Your first post is defending the grifter from Wasilla in the guise of actually “defending” journalism. Wouldn’t you have been more at home at National Review?

  • apr2563

    Mr Crowley: jcpan questions your equating Fox News and Media Matters. Media Matters is a fact checker. You may not agree with their findings but that is their mission. Fox News is a propoganda outlet for the Republican Party. That is their mission.

  • apr2563

    sacredh: you mean the television studio being built on the shy, reclusive Sarah’s property?

  • apr2563

    Mr. Crowley: I guess I might have some concern for Sarah Palin’s privacy if she and her fellow Republicans weren’t so intent on messing with mine. They want to end a woman’s right to chose, oppose homosexuals serving in the military, insist we are a Christian nation, want to revise our children’s text books and just spend a lot of time being intrusive.
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  • apr2563

    kujan: You forget the loofah man, O’Reilly who sends his producer out to stalk people. And how about the “pimp man” at the Acorn offices and Landreau’s office.

  • apr2563

    Mr. Crowley: If I was you I would be more upset about the press not stalking the regulatory agencies during the Bush years. I would have liked to see a little bit of stalking leading up to the Iraq war. How about some stalking done in the financial world before the meltdown.
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    Your sensitivity is charming.

  • artraveler

    Well, he has one chapter already based on her paranoia when he legally rented the house next door AFTER she had the chance and turned it down. If he can’t get a chapter out of her reaction, the right-wing media attacks, and the fence, he is really missing an opportunity. It certainly goes to Palin’s decision-making (or maybe “non-decision” making). I now think he needs a 6-ft TV dish in his back yard. That ought to really get some warped minds working.

  • newfreedomblog

    TIME is the new Enquirer.

  • newfreedomblog

    “Journalism faces a credibility crisis, and reporters’ motives are under attack by outlets like Fox News, Media Matters and a thousand merciless blogs. Joe McGinniss’s very clever but utterly hollow stunt, it seems to me, exacerbates that problem. That doesn’t only make life harder for all his colleagues, but it makes life easier for people who want to undermine trust in the media.”

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    Jounalism not only faces a credibility crisis, but is nearing a death as we know it.
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    Jounalism and let us use TIME as an example have broken down into ideological camps, ie: Fox News versus CNN for example, and the sensationalized rag magazines like TIME who find it difficult to compete with the likes of the supermarket tabloids.
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    Rather than staying on the high road, TIME has made the decision to go the route of sensationalism in order to sell more magazines. You see this everyday here in the swamp. What brings more people here to comment? More stories on boring legislation? The discovery of businesses struggling to make it in a down economy? People who have been unemployed now for nearly 2 years? Nope, but throw into the mix what Sarah Palin bought so far as a wardrobe, WHAM, out come all the postings one after another enciting all types of ridicule from the lib-wits on the left.
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    I am glad you point to McGinniss’ motive as merely a publicity stunt to sell his book, I basically find it to be a breach of Sara Palin’s right to privacy the left holds so dear to their hearts. Yet what do our liberal friends say even in this thread? They jump on the bandwagon, and ridicule and demonize her more.
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    I understand McGinniss’ motives. He is just a jounalistic whore. Basically selling what is left of non-existent jounalistic integrity to sell a few more books.
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    What I do not understand however is the obsession on the left with Sarah Palin. The left is so obviously obsessed with Sarah because they are afraid. Afraid of what Sarah Palin stands for will become a standard for behavior and belief in this country again. The distortion of our American values by those on the left have perverted will be relegated back into the depths of obscurity once again where they belong. People on the left who openly admit to holding those perverted values will again be shunned by our society and put back into the holes they have crawled out of. This is the only reason for the clear obsession of the liberal’s attempts to ridicule Sarah Palin. They are indeed simply afraid, and McGinniss is simply exploiting their fear.
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  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Afraid of what Sarah Palin stands for will become a standard for behavior and belief in this country again.

    Well, when ignorance is held as a virtue, when science is an object of ridicule and even history itself is being rewritten in order to better reflect on bigotry, then yes, there is concern about what will become a ‘standard’ for belief. Sarah may be a lightning rod, but the actual stench runs much deeper.

  • 53_3

  • vintel7

    The author’s perceptions and ideas are wrong. The problem is that the author gives too much credence to Sarah Palin, who is a malignant narcissist who functions on delusions of grandeur, black and white polarity thinking, fundamentalism, racism, and bigotry. Yes, your beloved pit bull with lip stick is a psychologically sick woman who the media turned into a wealthy celebrity. Palin does not deserve the wealth she now has. Neither does Limbaugh, Beck, or Hannity. Our sick culture actually rewards dysfunction. Why? Because most of the American populace is psychologically sick and dysfunctional, not too intelligent, and they resonate with Palin’s message of how the government is victimizing them and wants to take over their lives. In other words, Palin got rich spreading falsehood and lies and delusion and the stupid media rewarded her because a certain “market segment” bought into her delusional nonsense.

  • kevin

    Who was that? Certainly wasn’t me.

  • kevin

    I left out the “shady Whitewater deal” because after investigating it for four straight years and expending $70 million in taxpayer money to explore what Republicans insisted was a horrible crime, Ken Starr found … nothing.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    How does one avoid her? Even Swampland is doing a new Palin thread at about a 3 or 4 to one clip. The only thing I can think of is paying her to go on a one year, world-wide cruise, providing the lunch time comedy relief. It looks like she will do just about anything to get her grubby hands on more money.

  • stuartzechman

    Hey pal:
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    most of the American populace is psychologically sick and dysfunctional, not too intelligent, and they resonate with Palin’s message
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    Go f*ck yourself.
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    We’re a decent and generous people, not stupid and ill.
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    One of the things we’re supposed to gain from liberalism is the knowledge that negative generalizing and stereotyping en masse is bullsh*t. We figured out a long time ago that believing in crackpot breakfast table theories like “most of X populace are too stupid…” or “most of Y populace are too lazy…” or “most of Z populace are likely to steal…” leads to injustice, intellectual fraud and petty tribalism.
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    To the extent that Palin’s message resonates, it’s also because of twats like you talking down ordinary folk.
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    Us psychologically sick and not too bright people who sing God Bless America (and mean it) will probably be the first in line to pull your sorry ass out of a burning building.
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    So stick that crap back up your ass, got it?

  • thetragicallyflip

    I think Jay Rosen talks about how Journalists are all members of the “church of the Savy” – calling Palin’s attempts to paint this guy as a stalker and some kind of pervert “shrewd” falls right into that mold.

    Why is it “shrewd”? Because journalists at places like Time will write about it and make this person look like a weirdo! They know it’s silly, but see, Palin knows this too, and is doing a good job playing the game, so she’s savy. So they admire it.

    If that seems circular it’s because it is. Savyness is basically calvinball, a game with no inherent reason and lots of arbitrary rules, but play it well and you’ll be rewarded.

    Palin’s ploy is deeply cynical and frankly reprehensible. She knows her every facebook utterance is inexplicably national news so using that kind of platform to smear someone for the crime of writing about you and living next door is despicable. In the Bush years, the Bushies would at least wait for people to publish their critical books before smearing them to damage their credibility, palin has stepped up the game to pre-smearing. “Shrewd” he says, as if he’s the colour commentator analyzing a football game or something.

  • thetragicallyflip

    stuartzechman,

    If New Orleans is any indication, the “God Bless America” sort were too busy shooting black people for the crime of trying to leave a disaster zone on foot to be pulling anyone out of burning buildings.

    Not to forget their leaders, who were busy blaming New Orleans’ “sinful” ways for why God punished them with a flood.

    Oh then there’s their political leaders who told the victims they were failed citizens for not having an SUV full of bottled water on the ready.

    These types will help “their own” but as we’ve seen, they have a pretty restrictive view of who qualifies for that designation.

  • tbogg

    “Journalism faces a credibility crisis”

    Exhibit A; Michael Crowley

    Honestly, coming from the House O’ Stephen Glass, Jamie Kirchick, and The Bell Curve might be something that you want to keep to yourself.

  • stuartzechman

    If you want to call racist and vigilante scum what they are, go ahead, but that’s not the issue.
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    Draping “God Bless America” folks in white hoods and robes is inaccurate and counterproductive.
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    We liberals don’t blame an entire class of people for the sins of the worst among them, remember?
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    Isn’t that the kind of thinking that corrupted the sh*t-kickers with shotguns on that bridge in New Orleans?

  • Paul-no not that one

    THE Tbogg?

  • Paul-no not that one

    Your first post is getting attention Michael-
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    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280015
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    “Beltway reporters are so enamored with (or scared to death of) right-wing hardball that they’re incapable of even defending their own brethren when condemned by the GOP Noise Machine”

  • merlanai

    That’s a way of looking at this story I hadn’t thought of.

    I think I approve of you.

  • Tom in The Swamp

    Can’t go much farther downhill and still work for Time.

    Oh, I forgot that Glenn Beck cover story.

    Yeah, Crowley will fit right in.

  • lorax2

    Wasn’t it Sarah Palin herself that famously claimed to be a foreign policy expert because she could see Russia from her front porch (or was it the back one)? If Putin reared his ugly head, she would be able to see it, she claimed. This would make her an expert on foreign affairs, or at least American-Russian relations. This reporter in moving within close proximity to the half-term governor can now claim to be an expert using the same (faulty?) Palin logic. It’s ironic. It’s poetic justice. It makes perfect sense in our current senseless state of affairs in this country.

  • formerlyjames

    I agree with the basic premise that even obnoxious public figures deserve a degree of privacy and McGinniss is stepping over the line. He, however, is not a news journalist and his stunt has nothing to do with the state of the news media. He writes books for entertainment and to make money. No news journalism to it.
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    But I hope this thing goes on as an entertainment venue. Set up a Panmunjom 38th parallel outpost with watch towers, surveillance cameras, web cams. Sarah has Fox news backing her and can bring in one of her adoring patriot militias to keep McGinniss in check. The whole thing could become more comical and entertaining than it already is.

  • 3xfire3

    Stuart,
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    Well said.
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    Idiots like vintel7 are a disgrace to our country. These fringe people give both the left and right of our political system a bad name.
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    Stuart I often don’t agree with you but I always respect you and your comments. Unfortunately I find it hard to respect most of the other people on the Left who post here or their comments.
    Way too much hate.
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    ps: Notice you are the only one on the left that had a problem with vintel7. Stuart you have a major problem with your team.

  • 3xfire3

    Michael,
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    I think this has been a good learning experience for you. After reading the many comments you should have a pretty good idea of the typical swamper.
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    You now have a choice to make. Do you lower you standards and write to satisfy the 80% bigots and hypocrites who post here or do you make yourself and your family proud and write what you truly believe is fair and true.
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    I have a suggestion for you. Reread the 20% of posts that are from sane people who post here and think of them as your true audience. You will feel much better about yourself.

  • stuartzechman

    3xfire3:
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    you have a major problem with your team
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    It’s not that big of a problem, and it’s getting better, not worse.
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    You are basically getting to see something that liberals haven’t really shown in public, which is this sort of smack down of anti-Americanism that has no place at all on the left, and should be confined to identify the farthest, Trotskyite, socialist internationale fringe idiots.
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    I think that in the past, before places like this blog were available, we keep this kind of conflict between ourselves. There’s obviously a racial-politics component of it, as well, which is why it was tough for some of us liberals to refuse to say “Well, he’s got somewhat of a point…” about Rev. Wright’s “God Damn America.” Many of us just hope that it sort of goes away by itself, so we don’t have to confront the issue, and possibly defend ourselves from the usual charge that we’re apologizing for racists.
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    Make no mistake, though, 3xfire3: my team stands with Americans because we are Americans first, no matter how many books entitled “Treason” get written by rightists trying to exploit that weakness of ours for political gain.

  • tantef

    With apologies to Lovely Bride: Stuart this is why I love you so. I must resume logging in here more often.

  • harleyp

    Hah! This from one of the many journos who gave Palin a free pass throughout the campaign — and to a large extent, after it.

    Yeah. Right. It’s McGinnis who’s bad for what’s left of ‘journalism.’

  • http://tinselwing.wordpress.com/ nicteis

    It comes off as creepy, certainly. Which is overshadowed by the way Palin’s response comes off as overblown, paranoid and hysterical.

    But what strikes me is that renting the house next door wasn’t basically something done at McGinnis’s initiative. The initiative belonged to Palin’s neighbor. If I were in the reporter’s shoes, I’d have wanted to gain the trust of people who knew Palin well – ideally to take up residence on the same street, a few doors away, really get to know the neighborhood. It just happened that the available house in the hood was right next door. Poor judgment, perhaps, to leap at that opportunity despite the potential optics. But how soon was the second best location going to open up?

    It may (or may not) say something about how well regarded Palin is by those who actually know her personally, that her next door neighbor enjoyed the idea of renting her house to a probably not very sympathetic purveyor of cheap thrills and scandal. I say “may not” because this particular neighbor is only a sample of one.

  • apr2563

    Seen Crowley on TV. He is a 3rd way kind of guy.

  • vintel7

    Oh yeah OK. Welcome to Newsweek. NOT. You would have been better off to keep your job at the repub rag.
    McGinniss has a right to live wherever he wants. The Palin’s can put up a tall fence if they want. Get a life and find a real story.

  • vintel7

    So much for expressing an opinion in a “free” country. sure…you can call me names behind a screen name…cowards. It proves that everything I posted is correct…otherwise you wouldn’t have got your panties all up in a bunch. If you don’t recognize how sick Americans are, you are sick. America is a sick country populated by sick people. A country of cowards and narcissists. This is why “Americans” elected a psycho path like Bush president twice. The land of the free and the home of the brave. You have become the land of pathetic slaves and cowards.

  • 3xfire3

    If you really believe our country and our people are so bad why don’t you go someplace else.
    Don’t let the door hit you in the ass as you leave.

  • stewartiii

    NewsBusters| TIME’s Crowley: McGinniss Deals Blow to Journalism, Plays Into Palin’s Hands
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2010/05/28/times-crowley-mcginniss-deals-blow-journalism-plays-palins-hands

  • apr2563
  • azisright

    “My first objection is that politicians, even combative ones whom many people loathe, deserve a degree of privacy.”

    Way to show your biased journalism right out of the gate Mr. Crawley!

  • edinfl

    “The best way to understand Palin, I suspect, is to report out how she makes decisions, what she really believes, what forces in the Republican Party support and oppose her.”

    I’m afraid you have the wrong perspective. Sarah Palin does not hold public office (therefore there’s no need to report on how she makes decisions) and does not have an official role in the Republican or Tea parties.

    As a private (but very publicly available citizen) she is due no special treatment. She does not get to choose neighbors. She does not choose who walks alongside of her in the streets. As for the author, unless he becomes a stalker or violates the law, he has a right to live next to anybody, as long as he can afford the price of the house.

  • kathy

    Thought you all would be interested in Joe McGinniss’ interview with Dave Weigel, where he addresses some of these issues. Hope you read it too, Michael, and a revision from you might be in order.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/exclusive_joe_mcginniss_talks.html?wprss=right-now

  • spambalaya

    Thank God the press doesn’t share Mr. Crowley’s belief that politicians have the same right to privacy that private citizens have. It was the press, after all, that delved into Mark “hiking the Appalachian Trail” Sanford’s personal life to expose his astonishing affair, for example. On the other hand, it was the press’s reluctance to breach said privacy (in accord with Mr. Crowley’s professed principles) that kept reporters from telling the electorate what they knew about John Edwards sordid relationship with Rielle Hunter during the ’08 presidential primaries, leaving it to the National Enquirer to finally break the story.
    Sarah Palin can have privacy or celebrity, but not both. Her problem is that she wants maximum favorable exposure, not the warts-and-all kind. That’s not how the real world works, nor should it be.

  • 53_3

    Not to defend vintel7′s statement about Americans in general, SZ, but I see a very uneven treatment from you on this subject.
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    People like 3xfire3 and others, whom you’ve seen me chastise relentlessly over highly inaccurate at best and inflammatory statements at worst get only mild rebukes from you.
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    You research far more deeply than I have time for, and, in many respects your wit might be than mine, but I do believe that you should reserve your “Go f*ck yourself” statements for those who are really transgressing.
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    I have been around long enough to know that while we do have people who make statements that are wrong (I’ve done this more than a few times), I see his comment as reaching too far with a basic truth rather than painting all of us in the same light.
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    It’s clear he’s criticizing the fact that blatant propagandizing is so widely held as truth. In the ’70s and ’80s (and earlier), we did not have such problems. We had people who did have widely divergent beliefs, even beliefs that lead to someones’ death. However, they were never so detached from reality as we see now. It is a sea change in the scheme of things to see what used to be the real fringe become the new “normal”.
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    There is currently no equivalence, and the fact that the Pandora’s box of allowing hate speech to become the norm rather than confined to a small but deadly fringe has changed things considerably.

  • http://liuguoxinli.wordpress.com liuguoxinli
  • http://hubble53.wordpress.com hubble53

    Wasn’t the entire biography that Sarah invented about herself supposed to be that she was the rough, tough, pit bull with lipstick, hunting, gun toting self reliant woman who took care of hers and herself?

    So why is it every time we here from her it’s poor, poor Sarah people are being mean to poor defenseless me?

    Which is it?

    Sarah was the one who went running to the media all a twitter that the big bad journalist was living next door. Sarah is the one who implied the man was a closet pedophile who’s motivation was to peek into her daughters window.

    The journalist has said nothing that I can find at this point insulting about her, but in Sarahland he’s the bad guy. He’s so evil that she had to put up a fence to protect themselves, and then run to the media to proclaim that all she wants is her privacy.

    Here’s a bit of unsolicited advise for Sarah. If she wants privacy then quit running to the press, posting on facebook, and twittering every five minutes about the minutia that is her life, and if you want to play the strong powerful woman who has what it takes to lead the free world then quit whining about everybody picking on you. You put yourself in the spotlight and if you don’t want to stay there all you have to do is shut up and in a few months you’ll just be another question on the newest version of trivial pursuit, or a quick film clip on MTV’s I love the 2000′s.

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