House GOP Leaders Are Listening… Now

House GOP leaders today unveiled a listening tour called America Speaks Out that will start online and be expanded to a bunch of events across the country. “I saw this as an extension of our solutions group,” Minority Leader John Boehner said at the project’s unveiling at the Newseum in Washington. The same group, Boehner added, that came up with alternative legislation to the stimulus, the budget and health care reform. Apparently those were done without the input of the American people.

Of course this has been done before. As has the website. But this time it’s a super cool website. No really: “I personally traveled to Washington State to see a Microsoft program that helped NASA map the moon,” said Rep. Kevin McCarthy of California, Vice Chairman of the Republican Conference and the guy who headed up this effort.

They chose the Newseum, McCarthy said, because of the First Amendment scrawled on the front of the building. “Last summer in small groups and in large groups people spoke out. They spoke independently and the spoke individually but their message was the same: listen,” McCarthy said. “America Speaks Out will return to them their voice and we will listen.” Because speaking to the people means speaking to the national elite press in a building erected in their honor.

Some caveats: don’t bother writing in curse words, or insulting people personally or asking to raise taxes – those comments will be scrubbed. Also discouraged, suggestions on amnesty or a path to legalization for illegal immigrants and anything pro-choice. “We know what our principles are,” McCarthy said. Apparently not banned? Hitler.

The ideas will be gathered into legislation that Republicans could start introducing as early as next week, Boehner said. Or, they might bundle it all together in September as say a Contract With America, er, bundle of legislation that reflects the will of the people Republican base and introduce it as a blueprint for what they could do if reelected by some miracle they regained the majority in the last month before Congress leaves for the year at the end of October. Boehner and every other House GOP leader swore that elections are NOT, NOT, NOT why they’re doing this. “This effort has nothing to do with elections,” Boehner said. “People are angry and the Democrats are clearly not listening. Well, we are.” Also, this was paid for by taxpayers’ money so, legally, they can’t say it has anything to do with elections.

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  • 53_3

    Look:
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    I don’t mind that freeinpa, earljr1 and even Rusty get their infrastructure paid for on my tax dime, but this takes the cake!
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    I expect that I have to help toward all the rural subsidies they get. It makes America stronger.
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    But my tax dollars paying for propaganda?!?!?!
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    Hell No!*

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    *Something tells me that I really have no choice whatsoever. Thanks to the Supreme Court…

  • gysgt213

    Oh this is going to be good. They are going to find out they don’t really like their supporters suggestions all that much. I making popcorn.

  • gysgt213

    “Some caveats: don’t bother writing in curse words, or insulting people personally or asking to raise taxes – those comments will be scrubbed. Also discouraged, suggestions on amnesty or a path to legalization for illegal immigrants and anything pro-choice. “We know what our principles are,” McCarthy said. Apparently not banned? Hitler.”
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    Birth certificate, Kenya, communist aren’t banned are they? Please tell me they are not.

  • http://www.124monkeys.com Sean DeCoursey forgot his password

    um, do these guys know what listening means? If you’re listening to everyone (or at least all of America) you have to listen to stuff you don’t want to hear too, like raising taxes, or prosecuting Bush admin officials for torture and violations of the law of war.
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    So typical. Proclaim you’re listening to America, but block out everything you might not want to hear.

  • apr2563

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/25/new-gop-initiative-stumbl_n_588748.html
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    All comments have to pass the purity test.
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    I guess the Rep leadership never reads Free Republic or any site where right wingers post. Boy are they in for some interesting posts. Let’s see how they handle the crazies.

  • gysgt213

    That’s so funny. Just read the article and almost immediately they got stuff they couldn’t deal with. But the real funny part is they say that people are angry. Well duh!

  • centfan

    Boehner: “Hey guys? You know it occurred to me that if we get back into power they might expect us to solve these problems… hee hee hee … I knew I wasn’t going to keep a straight face. Blame has such a long shelf life, especially when blaming Democrats… especially to people who think the Boston Tea Party had something to do with a Ted Kennedy sponsored tea tax… in California.”

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Sean, just to be clear, you’re not asserting that this is an exclusively republican practice, right?

  • groenhagen2

    jcapan:

    “Sean, just to be clear, you’re not asserting that this is an exclusively republican practice, right?”

    Try typing what David Brock wrote about Anita Hill (i.e., “a little bit nutty, a little bit slutty) on Media Matters web site, and it’s rejected. How ironic.

    As far as Hitler, Ayn Rand once published the platform of the National Socialists from the 1920s. You would swear that it was the Democrat Party’s current platform.

  • Friar Tuck

    Link to “the platform of the National Socialists from the 1920s”, please? You have no credibility, so you’ll be ignored until you produce the goods.

  • Paul-no not that one

    jc I get your impulse but you aren’t asserting that Democrats haven’t incorporated ideas from the other side during the stimulus and HCR bills, right?
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    Not that those dopes (the Democrats) got anything, even a single vote, for their efforts.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Paul,
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    I was mainly responding to Sean’s “you have to listen to stuff you don’t want to hear too, like raising taxes, or prosecuting Bush admin officials for torture and violations of the law of war.”
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    Didn’t Obama just say he was agnostic about tax increases? He’s not challenged the Reagan doctrine in any serious way. As for the latter two items Sean mentions, I see no discernible shift from W’s reign, that this admin. is any more responsive to such heretical suggestions and/or criticisms of a muscular executive.
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    Do dems have a bigger tent and a more lively/fractured debate–yes–does the dem party machine have much interest in being responsive to their base–no. The GOP listens almost exclusively to their base. The dems and Pres. Goldilocks listen to all good GOP ideas, anything village chuckleheads have to offer, and of course anything Baucus, Lieberman, Lincoln and their indistinguishable corporate financiers have to say–but the base, nada. It’s makes me wish I were a foaming at the mouth TPer at times.
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    Thank god I have my Orioles to cheer me up.

  • hellslittlestangel

    Oh my. I created an account just so that I could vote for “forced resuscitation of stillborn infants.”

  • gloriousglo2

    The Nazi platform? You mean the part about persecuting various minorities and launching unprovoked wars against nations that didn’t do anything to you, and then having a party propaganda organ that day after day beats the drum for the whole thing? Yeah, sounds like an American political party, but the Dems don’t come immediately to mind….

  • gloriousglo2

    …and Ayn Rand was a kook, not the great philosopher you think she was…and the woman had the morality of a South Carolina gubernatorial candidate….

  • ohiolib

    Actually, rather than persecute most minorities, Rs would much rather let just let the private sector handle it.

  • hellslittlestangel

    Hmm. They failed to send me a confirmation of registration. The procedure requires that you give your Congressional Rep’s name. Maybe they don’t like Chaka Fattah?

  • Cliff

    That was almost awesome.

  • gysgt213

    I mainly drunk comment here because as usual I’m drunk. Don’t do it kids. Get outside and play. Anyway the democrats don’t want no listening tour with teh libatards (I mean outside of the fanboy and girls) either because their feelings would be hurt a lot friggin worse than the republicans.

  • gysgt213

    I’m watching American Idol and waiting for Glee to come on. Is anyone listening, because why?

  • Cliff

    I guess there’s no point in attempting to circumvent Godwin’s Law when the initial blog post mentions Hitler.

  • Friar Tuck

    Automatic response guided by the ancient reptilian base of the cortex?

  • gysgt213

    Hitler was voted of in Hollywood round. WTF are you talking about? Nobody was buying that Charlie Daniels crap.

  • Cliff

    Also, I love that Step 5 of America Speaking Out is “Earn Badges.”

  • kevin

    Below is the 25 Point Program of the NSDAP in the 1920s.
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    Let’s see how well they stack up with the current platform of the Democratic Party, shall we?
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    1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the people’s right to self-determination.
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    Strident nationalism? Doesn’t sound like the Democrats.
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    2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.
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    In other words, rejection of the League of Nations. Given that conservatives assert the Democrats want to sell us out to the United Nations (the closest LoN analog) that doesn’t seem to hold true either.
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    3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.
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    Aggressive colonial expansion? Not exactly a Democratic plank.
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    4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.
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    When you think “Democratic Party” these days, do you think “white supremacy” and “no Jews allowed”? No.
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    5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.
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    When you try to imagine which party wants to exclude immigrants from the cover of normal law in this country, do you think of the Democrats? No.
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    6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.
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    Again, see above.
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    7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.
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    Despite what Rush Limbaugh might say, there’s nothing in the Democratic platform about providing opportunity for a livelihood. The part about immigrants stealing our jobs and needing to be kicked out of the country sounds familiar, though. Not Democrats, but someone….
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    8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.
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    “Build the danged fence”?
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    9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.
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    Alright, “equal rights” sounds like something you’d find in the Democratic platform. The Republican one, too, but I’ll give you that.
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    10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all.
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    Again, I’m sure Glenn Beck can read between the lines here, but you won’t find this utopian universalist tripe in the Democratic platform.
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    Consequently we demand:
    11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.

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    Nope.
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    12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
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    Confiscation of all war profits? Nope.
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    13. We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
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    Nope. Temporary and partial takeover of companies like GM don’t count.
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    14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
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    Heh, not even close.
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    15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
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    Right, just like every other political party in interwar Europe. But this does echo the Democratic support of Social Security, so there you go — we’re 2 out of 15!
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    16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
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    Warehouse leasing for small firms? No.
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    17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
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    No private real estate market? No.
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    18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.
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    I don’t recall the Democrats advocating the death penalty for money lenders.
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    19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.
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    Uh, no.
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    20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
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    This is a stretch, but Democrats do support the concept of public education, so I’ll give that one to you as well. We’re now up to 3 out of 20.
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    21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.
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    I think the President’s Council on Physical Fitness is the closest we’ve come to this, and that’s been bipartisan.
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    22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.
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    Democrats do support a national army, but again, I think that’s bipartisan.
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    23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that: a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race: b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the German language: c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.
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    State control of the media? Well, there is a news network that’s closely aligned with one of the political parties, but it’s not the Democrats. And there was an administration that was caught paying journalists to write puff pieces about them, but again, not Democrats.
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    24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: The good of the state before the good of the individual.
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    Calls for a Christian theocracy and opposition to all minority religions? Again, not the Democrats.
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    25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.
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    A strong central state? That’s not a goal, in and of itself for the Democrats, but comparatively speaking, they do support the use of federal power more than the states’ rights conservatives. So we’ll give that to you as well.
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    So … 4 out of 25 apply to the Democrats, and those are the evil evil evil notions of (1) equal rights, (2) old age insurance, (3) public schools, and (4) federal power.
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    Oddly enough, twice as many apply just to the Republicans: (1) strident nationalism, (2) hatred of international groups like the UN, (3) military expansion, (4) kicking out illegal immigrants, (5) give illegal immigrants second-class status, (6) keep illegal immigrants from rising to power, (7) stop all future immigration, (8) state control of the media.
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    Man, it’s almost like Ayn Rand was a total moron.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_25-point_Program_of_the_NSDAP

  • gysgt213

    I’m in pain here Friar. My life has no purpose listening to Lee The Wise singing U2 or is it 3 and watching Rain Seaquest in a skinny suit. There has to be more.

  • Cliff

    Yeah, that was surprising. I thought he would have went with a Wagner opera, but what do I know, right?

  • Cliff

    One of the ideas under the “American Prosperity” topic is “Where are the jobs?”
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    This site is comedy gold, people.

  • kevin

    Well, they do have the emotional maturity and intellectual heft of a Girl Scout troop.

  • kevin

    I’ve posted this before, but I never get tired of this John Rogers line:
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    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

  • Friar Tuck

    Many, many thanks, Kevin. Time well spent!

  • gysgt213

    I think it was the tight blue jeans, fiddle and the military top. Bad fashion. Do you in every time. But there is always America’s Got Talent.

  • Friar Tuck

    Charlie Daniels . . . didn’t he do The Devil Went Down On Goering during his Weimar phase?

  • Friar Tuck

    Give this a shot:
    .

  • gysgt213

    OMG! Friar I think he did, but I think he is doing credit card commericals and stealing bread sticks now. Shame, really.

  • gysgt213

    Way to go Friar. Now you have me crying in my beer for that which was. Hope you are proud of yourself.

  • Cliff

    I think groenhagen2 forgot to attach “….if you have a reading disability” to the end of his last sentence.

  • ohiolib

    Danke, Kevin. :)

  • red554

    yeeesh – i mean, it’s nice that the GOP have discovered the internet, but i do find the idea of the echo effect that will ensue quite creepy. i think progressives need to get in there and engage and keep shining a bright light on errors and hypocrisy – the only good that seems like it might come out of the environmental devastation in the gulf is the rooting out of the rot in the mineral management services – http://www.frequency.com/video/bps-cozy/76757

  • kevin

    I recommend the “Values” section. Hilariously insane.

  • kevin

    Sie sind willkommen.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Groenhagen,.
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    I notice that you’ve been all hit and run lately.
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    I guess it is because after you found out that there is a criminal investigation against you for harassment and threats that if your wife catches you online she will take away your allowance.
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    Maybe if you had a real business or wrote books somebody besides you wanted to read at you might have your own computer and not need your allowance from your wife.
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    Wife as an ATM: a new book by Kevin L Groenhagen.
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    Copies sold: None!

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    In 2000 when Hillary Clinton, considering a run for the US Senate here in New York went on a “listening tour” I thought it was the cheesiest idea.
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    We are supposed to hear the ideas of the people asking for our vote.
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    Now, desperate, confused and lost, the Republic Party is copying a dumb idea.
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    I suspect they are going to look for common words and phrases and put them into talking points and then try, with new phrases to sell their same old ideas.

  • kevin

    Oh it’s definitely about marketing.
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    We already know what’s going to be inside the box — even more tax cuts for the very rich — it’s just a matter of deciding what new-and-improved sales pitch they trot out.

  • 53_3

    He must have been too broke to buy his own copy…

  • Art Pepper

    “New GOP Initiative Stumbles Early, Poster Calls For Repealing Civil Rights Act”
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    Rand Paul, was that you?

  • swissArmyBrainBETA

    the anti-americanism and cynicism of the left are truly breathtaking. republicans are making an honest effort to give law making power to the internet comment posters like us, or more specifically, like rdw, newfreedom, textee (my favorite by far) and the like. they never really wanted power anyway, they just ran in order to serve internent comment posters
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    what is that new symbol for sarcasm i was reading about?

  • FlownOver

    They’re listening… as long as you’re saying what they (and their fat cat enablers) want to hear.

  • allthingsinaname

    What a joke these Repubs are. God help me, but I can not understand how anyone in their right mind could vote for one of these clowns.
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    I worry about America.

  • Art Pepper

    I just submitted

    Let the Bush tax cuts expire, to increase government revenue. Use this to reduce the deficit, as was done under the Clinton administration.

    And my House rep is a Republican, so I guess I’m legit.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Gunny, let’s see if I have this straight:
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    You drink (heavily)
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    You watch reality TV (apparently by choice)
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    You are liberal
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    You frequent the Swamp (again, apparently by choice)
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    Am I missing anything? B/C, well, let’s just say concern doesn’t begin to describe it, mate. That said, happy hour is fast approaching in the land of the setting sun. I just sang my daughter to sleep–imagine the ABCs as performed by Cape-Fear DeNiro.

  • Art Pepper

    But they flagged this one as inappropriate:
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    Enforce tighter regulation and oversight of offshore drilling. Clean up the Minerals Management Service (MMS). Put a moratorium on new drilling until the relationship between MMS and industry has been sorted out.

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    I don’t think it’s ideological, though. I suspect the p)rn filter is just over-aggressive. (I can remember when our own Swampland had the same problem…)

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Art, have you tried?

    Elect more demagogues and closeted charlatans who revere their corporate overlords and blame all of society’s ills on the brown and weak.

  • apr2563

    Kevin you are my hero. That was great. The other day groener was touting Ayn Rand’s Christianity. What a joke. You know he listens to the radical right leaders and then quotes them without any real knowledge. They are all cultists.

  • kevin

    Thanks. It wasn’t any trouble at all. As with most right-wing assertions of things they know to be true, it was completely wrong and easily dispelled.
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    The interesting thing is that Groehagen himself could have looked up the NSDAP platform just as easily as I did before tossing out the ludicrous claim that “You would swear that it was the Democrat Party’s current platform.” Might have saved himself the embarrassment.
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    But, of course, there’s something odd in the ways that those on the far right take in information (and, more often, misinformation) without ever questioning the source or doing their own research. If Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, or Ayn Rand said it, well, it must be true.
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    In fairness, there are mindless drones across the political spectrum, but they seem to herd in much larger numbers over on the right. Limbaugh’s fans proudly refer to themselves as “Dittoheads,” for instance, but it’s hard to imagine their counterparts on the far left self-identifying themselves as mindless drones like that.

  • vintel7

    Yeah right. As usual, the republicans are launching another tea party like gimmick to exploit what they perceive is a problem. That is…that the government is not “listening”. What that really means is that the President and the Democrat controlled Congress are not enacting lame republican ideas. If republicans had their way, Christianity would be the official state religion of the USA and kids over 5 would be able to own guns. Yet….the republicans have done nothing but obstruct and whine and attack and complain the entire time Obama has been in office. The republicans are doing their usual “pay lip service but do nothing” routine. Don’t be fooled, republicans don’t give a fig about what you have to say.

  • kevin

    You don’t support 4-year-olds having the right to own guns?
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    What are you, some kinda commie?

  • newfreedomblog

    Of course kevin would take the Nazis to spell away his objections that the Democrats/Progressives of today are “not” like those “German Socialist”.
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    But here we find the real truth. The truth in the American Socialist Party Platform of 1928. Who was in control of Congress from about 1934 – 1994? That is what, 60 years?
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    When the socialist party ran a candidate for President in 1928 it received less than 1% of the popular vote, but its platform has been adopted by both major political parties. What follows is an excerpt from Milton and Rose Friedman’s book titled Free to Choose. Most of it is directly copied from the book and only select parts are amended by me. All dollar figures are from the date it was written so are not accurate today. The book was published in 1978. You may find many areas that I have not amended that could easily be added to with the legislation that has passed since 1978, but this will give you a general idea of how close the government of these United States is to being socialist today.
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    Herewith the economic planks of the socialist party platform of 1928, along with an indication in parentheses of how these planks have fared. The list that follows includes every economic plank, but not the full language of each.
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    1. “Nationalization of our natural resources, beginning with the coal mines and water sites, particularly at Boulder Dam an Muscle Shoals.” (The Federal Govt has been on a buying binge of late in the West, purchasing millions of acres of prime land with Billions in natural resources.)
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    2. “A publicly owned giant power system under which the federal government shall cooperate with the states and municipalities in the distribution of electrical energy to the people at cost.” (This is a generally accepted process across the country. Can anyone say Cap and Trade?)
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    3. “National ownership and democratic management of railroads and other means of transportation and communication.” (Can we say buyouts and bailouts to the point that the US Govt now owns majority stakes in Car Companies, Banks?.)
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    4. “An adequate national program for flood control, flood relief, reforestation, irrigation, and reclamation.” (Government expenditures for these purposes are currently in the many billions of dollars.)
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    5.“Immediate governmental relief of the unemployed by the extension of all public works and a program of long range planning of public works . . .” (In the 1930s, WPA and PWA were a direct counterpart; now, a wide variety of other programs are.) “All persons thus employed to be engaged at hours and wages fixed by bona-fide labor unions.” (The Davis-Bacon and Walsh-Healey Acts require contractors with government contracts to pay “prevailing wages,” generally interpreted as highest union wages – also the national minimum wage. Billions of dollars have been spent on new JOBS BILLS with more to come. Also a new bailout is proposed by Sen Casey (D-PA) to bail out Union pension funds)
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    6.“Loans to states and municipalities without interest for the purpose of carrying on public works and the taking of such other measures as will lessen widespread misery.” (Federal grants in aid to states and local municipalities currently total tens of billions of dollars a year. Lousianna Purchase or Cornhusker Kickbacks anyone?)
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    7.“A system of unemployment insurance.” (Part of Social Security system. See #5 above)
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    8.“The nation-wide extension of public employment agencies in cooperation with city federations of labor.” (U.S. Employment Service and affiliated state employment services administer a network of about 2,500 local employment offices.)
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    9.“A system of health and accident insurance and of old age pensions as well as unemployment insurance.” (Part of Social Security. Full global health insurance proposed widely.)
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    10.“Shortening the workday” and “Securing every worker a rest period of no less than two days in each week.” (Legislated by wages and hours laws that require overtime for more than forty hours of work per week.)
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    11.“Enacting of an adequate federal anti-child labor amendment.” (Not achieved as amendment, but essence incorporated into various legislative acts.)
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    12.“Abolition of the brutal exploitation of convicts under the contract system and substitution of a cooperative organization of industries in penitentiaries and workshops for the benefit of convicts and their dependents.” (Partly achieved, partly not.)
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    13. “Increase taxation on high income levels, of corporation taxes and inheritance taxes, the proceeds to be used for old age pensions and other forms of social insurance.” (In 1928, highest personal income tax rate, 25 percent; in 2008, 35 percent, above 40 percent proposed by Obama; in 1928, corporate tax rate, 12 percent; in 2008, 35-39% percent with proposed increases by Obama; in 1928, top federal estate tax rate, 20 percent; in 2008, 48% with proposed increases by Obama.)
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    14.“Appropriation by taxation of the annual rental value of all land held for speculation.” (Not achieved in this form, but property taxes have risen drastically.)

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    Isn’t it amazing how much of the Socialist Party of America platform in 1928 is now part of our everyday lives?
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    http://blog.riseofreason.com/socialist-platform-of-1928/111/

  • kevin

    Of course kevin would take the Nazis to spell away his objections that the Democrats/Progressives of today are “not” like those “German Socialist”.
    .
    Yes, of course I would talk about the Nazis, because that is exactly what Groehagen was talking about:
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    As far as Hitler, Ayn Rand once published the platform of the National Socialists from the 1920s. You would swear that it was the Democrat Party’s current platform.

    .
    If he’d said Norman Thomas and not Hitler, and if he’d said Socialist Party of America and not the National Socialists, then maybe you’d have a point. But he didn’t. He said the current Democratic platform looked identical to the 1920s National Socialist platform, and so I examined the exact comparison he made.

    Nice try changing the subject, though. I especially appreciate that after making an observation about how people on the right just mindlessly quote an authority figure without doing their own research, you jumped to quote Milton Friedman. Well done!

  • kevin

    P.S. Rusty, given how evil socialism is, I think you conservatives should stake everything on repealing all of those socialist changes that Democrats brought to America.
    .
    Looking over your list, I’m sure Americans would welcome the repeal of all child labor laws, the end of Social Security, and the abolition of all government emergency relief efforts.
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    Oh, and Friedman blames evil Democrats for creating the weekend, too. Be sure to make that a centerpiece of your effort.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    The GOP is to be commended for finally adopting 16th century, empirical research concepts, but by suggesting their platform will ultimately be based on principle, rather than fact, it does seem to suggest that they still prefer deduction to induction. That may explain why their only policy during the Obama era has been obstruction. I suspect they have ulterior motives for pretending they now have some interest in the real world.

  • jeriv

    LOL!!! =.-D

  • newfreedomblog

    Kevin:
    .
    Groenhagen is absolutely correct in his comparison. Your little feeble attempt at deflecting his comment is so rediculous it isn’t even funny. Point by point, here is the truth.
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    7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. (One of the stalwart platforms of the Democrat Party since Unions have been in existence). Wrong again little Kevin.

    10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality. (Substitute one word, “Universality” with the common good of everyone in the society, and you again have the Democrat Party platform).

    13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts). (Absolutely the agenda of the current Administration to take over industry within this country and nationalize it. GM IS a very good example of the Government over stepping it bounds within the free market system).

    14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries. (Again one of the tenets of the Liberal Progressives within this country. They believe that big corporations are the problem, and want to take those profits away for income redistribution. Isn’t that right Joe the Plummer?).

    15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare. (Not only the expansion of old age welfare, but welfare of all people within this country including illegals).

    16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation. (THE signature issue for the Obama Administration. UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE ANYONE?)

    17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land. (Where to start on this one, let’s go with the Environmentalist activists for a starter who are one of the major supporters of the Democrat Party). (Again ENVIRONMENTALIST Extremist. Who does the Sierra Club support?)

    18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race. (What has been all the hula boo about Wall Street of late? Who wants “Financial Reform”?)

    20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions (Absolutely hands down one of the major Democrat Party platforms for well over 50 years).

    21. The State is to care for the elevating national health. (Again, can we say HEALTHCARE REFORM anyone? Who voted on a strictly partisan basis for the current heatlhcare reform law?)
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    I could go on and on and on with completely countering your fully opinion based only summation. If there was ever a comparison of the two parties as to which party most represents the old Nazi Party, it would overwhelmingly be the Democrat Party which has taken up the fallen banner of the Nazi Party. Hands down.
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    Slightly more than “just 4″, and I stopped as it became so obvious as to how much the current Democrat Party is aligned with the old Nazis in 1930 something.

  • kevin

    If those things are in the current Democratic Party platform, Rusty, then it should be simple for you to prove it.
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    Here’s the platform. Provide the actual quotations.
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    http://www.democrats.org/a/party/platform.html
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    Go ahead. We’ll wait.

  • Ivy_B

    Don’t like Dana Milbank, but thought this was amusing – quotes from the website.

    Republicans’ new Web site not exactly what they hoped it would be

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/25/AR2010052504396_pf.html

  • newfreedomblog

    Ask any you shall receive:
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    7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. (One of the stalwart platforms of the Democrat Party, Plank #1. “Empowering Families for a new Era” since Unions have been in existence). Wrong again little Kevin.
    .
    10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality. (Substitute one word, “Universality” with the common good of everyone in the society, and you again have the Democrat Party platform Plank #4 “Good Jobs with Good Pay” and Plank #5 “Work and Family”).
    .
    13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts). (Absolutely the agenda of the current Administration to take over industry within this country and nationalize it. GM IS a very good example of the Government over stepping it bounds within the free market system. Plank #7 “New American Energy”).
    .
    14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries. (Again one of the tenets of the Liberal Progressives within this country. They believe that big corporations are the problem, and want to take those profits away for income redistribution. Isn’t that right Joe the Plummer?).
    .
    15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare. (Not only the expansion of old age welfare, but welfare of all people within this country including illegals. Plank #3 “Retirement and Social Security” and Plank#6 “Poverty”).
    .
    16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation. (THE signature issue for the Obama Administration. UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE ANYONE? Plank #2 Affordable, Quality Healthcare for All Americans”)
    .
    17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land. (Where to start on this one, let’s go with the Environmentalist activists for a starter who are one of the major supporters of the Democrat Party). (Again ENVIRONMENTALIST Extremist. Who does the Sierra Club support? )
    .
    18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race. (What has been all the hula boo about Wall Street of late? Who wants “Financial Reform”? Plank#15 “Reforming Financial Regulation and Corporate Governance”)
    .
    20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions (Absolutely hands down one of the major Democrat Party platforms for well over 50 years. Plank #8 “A World Class Education for Every Child”).
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    21. The State is to care for the elevating national health. (Again, can we say HEALTHCARE REFORM anyone? Who voted on a strictly partisan basis for the current heatlhcare reform law? Plank #2 Affordable, Quality Healthcare for All Americans”)
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    Yup, it’s all right in the Democrat Party Platform of 2008. Thanks kevin for proving my point.

  • kevin

    I can’t even tell which are real and which are fake:
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    “A ‘teacher’ told my child in class that dolphins were mammals and not fish!” a third complains. “And the same thing about whales! We need TRADITIONAL VALUES in all areas of education. If it swims in the water, it is a FISH. Period! End of Story.”

  • kevin

    Jesus Christ, you are awful at this.
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    Supporting the right of union members to bargain collectively with private employers is not remotely the same thing as demanding that the state provide every citizen with an income.
    .
    Encouraging the development of wind farms is not remotely the same thing as demanding the complete control of all private industry.
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    Supporting environmental legislation is not remotely the same thing as calling for the abolition of all private land ownership.
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    Calling for reform of the financial industry is not remotely the same thing as advocating the death penalty for usurers — literally killing them.
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    The only point you proved, Rusty, is that you’re even dumber than we all thought.

  • diecash1

    The only point you proved, Rusty, is that you’re even dumber than we all thought.

    That hardly seems possible.

  • kevin

    I know, I know.
    .
    I thought he’d hit rock bottom a long time ago, but by God, he found a way to tunnel through.

  • billiecat

    The website is buggy, doesn’t work right, and spouts paranoid delusions. Yep, sounds like the GOP.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Apparently GWB was too intelligent to keep Republicans happy judging from what you found.
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    I’m not going to even bother.
    .
    I think solitaire would even be a better use of my time than that.

  • megatronrises

    @ kevin:
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    You just made my life a little better. Thank you kind sir!

  • libertyhops

    To; Friar Tuck -

    RIGHT ON! On posting the video of RORY GALLAGHER, the GREATEST Blues/Rock guitarist BAR NONE!
    I first saw him in 1977[when I was 17], and he has been my ALL TIME FAVORITE GUITARIST ever since!

  • libertyhops

    Don’t waste YOUR TIME with American Idol, do yourself a favor and go on YouTube and do a search on; “Rory Gallagher”, trust me, you will NEVER tune in to American Idol AGAIN after that! YOU can thank me latter!

  • 3xfire3

    And the Leftist minority continues to rant. It’s a shame that most Americans consider them to be extreme nuts.

  • priklypete

    I’ve been to this site, it is extremely slow and very cumbersome to get around. It’s a good idea but it’s response time sucks as do both the Republicans and Demcrats when it comes to upholding the Constitution of the United States. Both parties are taking us into the New World Order where we will have little or no freedoms and will be ruled by elitists.

  • boofrickenhoo

    Well shades of “Contract with America”..here we go again.

    “We promise, Pretty please with sugar lumps and a cherry on top RE-ELECT US!!”

    We promise to send this bill and that bill to the floor and give it a full listen and then deny them…remember the term limits in 96? I do….hell why would you vote yourself out of a job?

    Remember social security reform? I do.
    Later that year they voted themselves a flipping pay raise!

    And oh so many others…this BS has GOT to STOP.
    Re-elect these millionaire whinyboys and we will have politics as usual.

    I am so tired of these idiots that have never worked an honest day since college and that’s if you call being an intern for a legislator an “honest days work”.

    BOTH parties are BROKEN wake up America STOP putting these clowns back in office.

    Amazing how little they truly think of the average citizen that they think we would forget the “Contract with America” and bring it up under a new name 14 years later.
    These people do not represent me, I don’t have their health insurance plan and neither do you unless you are a Gov employee.

    I have a part time temp job working for a branch of the government at night and let me tell you folks something, they have the life of f’ing riley.
    Bowls of candy and chips, TWO ps3′s in the office, THREE LCD 42″ tv’s…it’s a veritable vacation spot….lovely how our taxes are spent just lovely.

  • stevemd2

    Republicans – their base is the southern religious culture, which still relishes the days of slaverry and segregation. NO wonder they hate Obama so much.

    Except now they want to make everyone slaves to the ultra-rich. The people who destroyed trillions in family net worth, while stealing billions for themselves on wall street.

    And thats what is also behind their tea party movement – to hell with the little guy, more money, private jet planes, and yachts for “us”

    Our moral values people – eg Gingrich compares Obama to hitler and stalin – two of the worst of murderers in mankinds history. BTW, Gingrich is on his third wife, cheated on the first two

    Limbaugh – 3 marriages, 3 divorces.

    Karl Rove – 2 marriages 2 divorces.

    Hypocrites hardly describes the evil leadership of the republican party, who most often vote absolutely in unison against Obama’s attempt to undo the damage and destruction of the 8 years of Bush.

    Sure there are good republicans. But if they don’t do what they are told by their totally corrupted leadership, the party kicks them out. As happened to their Rep from Utah recently, and the moderate Republican Gilchrist from MD in 2008. Who voted against Bush’s Iraq catastrophy because he knew what war was like from Vietnam. While Bush and Cheney and otthers were just wealthy draft dodgers.

    I was a republican all my life. The democrats are far frorm perfect, but they at least debate their issues and compromise. And thats why I, and almost our whole extended family left the republcian party also.

    Politics is supposed to be about good ideas and debate. Not about vicious racism against our first black president and stealing the wealth of America. for the priveledged few.

  • merlanai

    So, basically they’re willing to listen as long as they like what they’re hearing and then hold up what they like as what “the people” want to happen.

  • merlanai

    Well boofrickenhoo to you too, they’re the only assholes running, and as long as that’s true THEY’RE GOING TO BE IN OFFICE.

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