Questions Emerge On Blumenthal’s Service Record

The New York Times is reporting that Connecticut Attorney General, Richard Blumenthal, never served in the Vietnam War despite his claims that he did.

At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life.

“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.”

There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.

Blumenthal is running for Chris Dodd’s Senate seat and, if true, these allegations could throw a wrench in those plans. Blumenthal is ahead in polls by more than 20 points of his two possible GOP challengers, Linda McMahon, the CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment and wife of WWE’s owner and former Rep. Rob Simmons.

It seems Blumenthal has a history of unsubstantiated boasts. From farther down in the article:

On a less serious matter, another flattering but untrue description of Mr. Blumenthal’s history has appeared in profiles about him. In two largely favorable profiles, the Slate article and a magazine article in The Hartford Courant in 2004 with which he cooperated, Mr. Blumenthal is described prominently as having served as captain of the swim team at Harvard. Records at the college show that he was never on the team.

Mr. Blumenthal said he did not provide the information to reporters, was unsure how it got into circulation and was “astonished” when he saw it in print.

Blumenthal also told the Times that he was not certain whether he had seen the stories or whether any steps had been taken to point out the inaccuracies. I bet he’s worrying about those inaccuracies now. Connecticut Dems will have a lot to weigh before their convention this weekend. Wonder what Chris Dodd is doing this November?

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  • apr2563

    Scooped you Jay. Posted this on the Pawlenty thread. As I said there, stupid, stupid. Like Cheney he got 5 deferments and like Bush got himself into the reserves to avoid Vietnam.
    As I stated earlier, I had many freinds trying to find a way out of the draft and many that went to Vietnam. Some died. There was nothing to be ashamed about either stance. A lie about your service is not acceptable.
    .
    Please note Freeper, NewRusty, et al, this story came from that horrible, liberal NYT.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    JFC, I’m about as hostile to American foreign policy and perpetual warmaking as they come, BUT, this f@cker is a lying arse dog. If he has a shred of integrity left intact, he’d quit yesterday.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Obviously having not served in Vietnam isn’t a deal-breaker for politicians. Mind-numbing stupidity OTOH can and should be instantly fatal.
    .
    Of course he could have said he served “during’ VietNam. That was good enough for GWB.

  • apr2563

    Exactly. Unless he has a da*ned good explanation he has to quit. I have had too many friends and family die in wars to have some a**holes lie about or exaggerate their service.
    .
    Vietnam was a moral disaster. It will hang over us forever as will the memories of those who lost their lives there.
    .
    I watched the last episode of “The Pacific” on HBO last night. It was a very good dramatized history of what happens to combatants in war and the residual tragedy on the rest of their lives. It is serious, life altering business. Only a coward would lie about their service during war time.

  • kevin

    Oh, Jesus Christ. Why do politicians do this?

  • sacredh

    “If he has a shred of integrity left intact, he’d quit yesterday.”
    .
    jcapan, he is a politician so he’s still running. Lieberman lying about his Civil War record cost him in the democratic primary, but he still won as an independent.

  • sacredh

    They still don’t understand the internet or believe that anyone pays any attention to anything they say.

  • groenhagen2

    Sen. Tom Harkin also lied about being a Vietnam War veteran, so, apparently, this may be some type of requirement for Democrat senatorial candidates.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I haven’t lived in Connecticut for twenty years, but knew I knew the name:
    .
    “Education

    Blumenthal graduated from Harvard College magna cum laude and was a member of Phi Beta Kappa. As an undergraduate, he was editorial chairman of The Harvard Crimson.[6] Blumenthal also was selected for a Fiske Fellowship that allowed him to study at Cambridge University, Cambridge England for one year after graduation from Harvard College. He received his J.D. from Yale Law School, where he was editor-in-chief of the Yale Law Journal.[7]

    He also served as a sergeant in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve.[8]
    [edit] Early political career

    Blumenthal had a brief career as a newspaper reporter for The Washington Post. He was hired by Benjamin C. Bradlee, editor of the Post, and worked on the Metro desk.

    Blumenthal served as administrative assistant to United States Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff, as aide to Daniel P. Moynihan (who would later be a United States Senator) when Moynihan was Assistant to President Richard Nixon, and as a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Harry A. Blackmun. At age 31, he became United States Attorney for the District of Connecticut, serving from 1977 to 1981, and as the chief federal prosecutor of that state successfully prosecuted many major cases against drug traffickers, organized crime, white collar criminals, civil rights violators, consumer frauds, and environmental polluters. From 1981 to 1986, he was a volunteer counsel for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund.

    Before he became Attorney General, Blumenthal was elected to the Connecticut House of Representatives at 38 in 1983, representing the 145th district. In 1987, he won a special election to fill a vacany in the 27th District of the Connecticut Senate, at the age of 41. Blumenthal resided in Stamford, Connecticut.
    [edit] Attorney General career

    He was first elected as the 23rd Attorney General in 1990 and was re-elected in 1994, 1998, 2002, and 2006. On October 10, 2002 he was awarded the Raymond E. Baldwin Award for Public Service by the Quinnipiac University School of Law.”
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Blumenthal
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    With so many incredibly good, true, things he had to say about himself, I can’t imagine why he would throw it all away for some fake claim about Vietnam.
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    Voters are just not going to tolerate that.
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    Idiot!

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Speaking of pathological liars:
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    Kevin L Groenhagen
    Age 47
    Lawrence, KS
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    Relatives:
    Andrea Lorenzo Groenhagen (42)
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    http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrea-Lorenzo-Groenhagen/1817373966
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    http://www.facebook.com/srch.php?post_form_id=ef6f3d5ce26c8bdaf57eadb961f719ae&nm=Kevin+Groenhagen
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    You never made a run for congress, Groenhagen.
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    You are so damn lucky I didn’t press charges against you.
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    Screw with me again and I will.
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    (For those who do not know, this man decided to try and make trouble for me by contacting my workplace.)
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    If anybody wants to screw with a wingnut: remember to block your caller ID and ask to buy one of Kevin’s books. He’ll know it is a prank, though since, judging from his income, nobody buys his books!

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “He graduated with a degree in government and economics in 1962, and served in the United States Navy as an active-duty jet pilot from 1962 to 1967. Harkin was stationed at Naval Air Facility Atsugi in Japan, where he ferried aircraft to and from the airbase that had been damaged in the Vietnam War and in operational and training accidents.”
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Harkin#Early_life
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    Just because you lie Kevin Groenhagen, doesn’t mean that everybody else does.
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    It appears as if you are wrong again.
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    Now, go write a book that nobody is going to read and get the F out of Swampland!

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    BTW: Working with businesses all of the time, not everybody knows that only about 5% to 10% of a businesses gross income is profit and, in the printing business with all of the overhead and materials, Kevin is living off of his wife’s income among other things to augment about $15,000 per year.

  • ohiolib

    Since this moron has enough moxie-or stupid; sometimes they’re interchangeable-to keep running, I really hope he loses. Badly. Just to send a message to all the other lying fools in congress.

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    Unfortunately, we know from GWB’s election the voting public doesn’t really care about lies told on the campaign trail. I’ll bet my house Blumenthal gets the nomination.

  • apr2563

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/richard-blumenthal-calls-_n_579656.html

    For what its worth, here is what Blumenthal is saying.

  • square1

    Who ratted him out, Sinbad?

  • constantweader

    Blumenthal should withdraw from the race & resign his AG job, too. The Connecticut Bar Association should investigate whether or not making knowingly false public statements is cause for disbarment. He’s reportedly holding a presser today, complete with Vietnam vets for props. Blumenthal also allowed stories to be printed that he was captain of the Harvard swim team. He wasn’t even on the team. Wonder if he ever mentioned he’d won the Nobel Peace Prize?

    BTW, guess who tipped off the New York Times? Why, it was wrestling mogul Linda McMahon, a Republican candidate for Senate.

    The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Groenhagen.

    Let me explain how this works:

    Criminal charges have a long period of time known as a statute of limitations. I have over a year and half to press charges against you.

    Should I do so, you will either face a hefty fine to the government (not me) or you will face probation time, but, probably both.

    You can not afford legal fees.

    You can not afford the fine.

    Should you get probation, the odds are almost 100% that you will be legally forbidden from going onto blogs like this one.

    So, you have two choices:

    One is that you promote books that nobody reads by showing up on other blogs and not coming back to Swampland, or, by showing up, convincing me to press charges against you and, a few thousand in legal fees, a few thousand in fines later you will not be able to even get involved with blogs like Red State, where your views are very popular.

    Make the right decision and get out of the Swamp.

    Then, go out and get a job so that you do not have to live off of your wife.

    I know of nothing more undignified than a healthy relatively young man (middle aged, but relative to retirees) living off of his wife.

    No wonder you feel emasculated.

    Got it!

    You crossed a line and may, possibly, even end up serving jail time if your wife doesn’t help you pay whatever fines that are imposed.

  • kathy

    Blumenthal apparently has also said publicly that he was in the reserves and didn’t serve in the country of Vietnam.

    But semantically it seems at least defensible to me that he said he served “in Vietnam” in the same way a generation before men served “in WWII” wherever they were stationed physically. My dad was a WWII vet who served stateside.

    Depends what he did in the reserves, perhaps. But to be sure, if he has consistently misrepresented his service he should be toast. But it may come down to a competition of lies/misrepresentations.

  • kathy

    Morning Joe is saying a Republican ratted him out, but I didn’t notice the name. Not sure if it’s his opponent. Of course, it’s not as if the New York Times says in its article “We ran with this when an opponent ratted him out.” Disclosure only counts for politicians.

  • newfreedomblog

    Sad, sad day for Democrats.

  • nflfoghorn

    Did Patrick channel his inner Lawyermommy? :)

  • nflfoghorn

    Yeah, and we’re just rushing toward those saintly PONers because we know they’re statesmen of the highest order!

  • gysgt213

    Of course it was one of his opponents. Its called opposition research and whomever it was their campaign did a good job. But in the end Blumenthal did this to himself and has no one else to blame. I don’t feel any sympathy for him.

  • newfreedomblog

    Perhaps Patrick IS lawyermommy, do you think? Both are equally scary, they both do seem to have this obsession on as they say “internet fraud, abuse and cyber crimes”.
    .
    But, lawyermommy has never referenced in a comment to basically take out her gun and put me in the “crosshairs” of her scope, so I doubt she is Patrick, but who knows.
    .
    It is also apparent that TIME.com does not follow it’s own internet policy, and allows commenters such as Patrick get away with dealth threats. But, that will be TIME’s regret if one of their liberal nutcases ever does fullfil one of their statements with irrational actions.

  • nflfoghorn

    Seriously, I have no reason to comment about Patrick’s apparent feud other than to say that if he has indeed been harrassed he’s taking it out the best way he knows how. I imagine the target of his venom has the same right. Anyone’s guess as to how effective blog-posting is (although this morn I heard about a web site dedicated to teen bullies).
    .
    Rusty, I saw no death threat in what he said.
    .
    And surely you can’t say with a straight face that a “liberal nutcase” will go postal and a neocon one won’t. Just the opposite.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jnsmall Jay Newton-Small

    Linda McMahon, co-owner of WWE, proudly claims responsibility for leaking this to the Times:
    http://dailycaller.com/2010/05/18/mcmahon-campaign-says-they-fed-blumenthal-story-to-new-york-times/

  • nflfoghorn

    The comedian you mean?
    .
    RE MS’ post: That makes my Morning Must Read post all the more comical ;)

  • Joe Bftsplk

    What options do the Dems have if Blumenthal drops out?

  • newfreedomblog

    With a straight face, nflfoghorn, Mr Sartor offered a death threat to me in a thread not long ago. I have it saved in case you would like further proof, but that is not at issue in my mind.
    .
    It just amuses me that someone like Sartor can actually have the gull to point fingers at someone when he has equally done more, and attacked others on this site no less WITH death threats. Please tell me the difference or separation.
    .
    There are indeed “nut-cases” on both sides. Hopefully the moon is not positioned in such a manner that both sides’ nutcases don’t drop off the deep end at the same time.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    How can you be so stupid? Is there not Internet today? Is there not a national media that’s very interested in the Senate candidates of swing states? What in the world makes you think you can get away with this sort of garbage?
    .
    And considering that the Senator he’s trying to replace had his entire career scuttled when he got caught in a lie that put him on the wrong side of the wrong issue, you’d think that he would wake up to the fact that such a stupid lie would not endear him to the voter.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Does anyone even bother to question the integrity of the NY Times? Apparently, in this case the guy really did misspeak. He has repeatedly said in speeches, some of which are on tape how badly we treated veterans during the time he served in the Marine corps reserves during the time of the Vietnam War, although he didn’t actually go to Vietnam. Of course that’s an amazing long and awkward sentence and sometimes it got shorten to how badly the veterans were treated during the time he served in the Marines, during the Vietnam war, meaning era not his service. Of course the NY Times is privy to that information and deliberately chose to omit it from their breaking story. So you tell me who is more the egregious party and more importantly, they’ve done this before. Let’s not forget what they did in the run-up to the Iraq war or that they pretty much invented White water during the Clinton era.
    .
    It’s just this simple, the NY Times is wiling to sacrifice the truth on the alter of circulation boosting sensationalism. More recently they did it with the story about Charlie Rangel’s rent-controlled apartments. Apparently, that whole thing about using one of his apartment for an office when it was against the law was a lie, the apartment they’re talking about that he has since let go, was always zoned for a commercial space. before Rangel it was a dentists office. And he leased these apartments over thirty years ago when no one wanted to live i Harlem, the buildings were going empty and while everyone else was fleeing to the suburbs, Rangel stayed in the neighborhood he represent and worked to make it better. Now that he has helped to increase property values and Harlem has become a hip destination and gentrification has priced out many of the long time residents the apartments that he and his family has inhabited for thirty years (two of which were combined decades ago and only the NYT would consider two apartments) is the result of abuse of his office. Give me a break, you want to make a big deal about him getting his taxes wrong have at it, but if he pays the same rent increases as every other citizen over the last thirty years it hardly qualifies as a sweetheart deal or an abuse of power, In fact, the only abuse I see is the NY Times, abusing what’s left of a once great reputation in order to garner attention from the cable echo chamber.
    .
    I’m just surprised that once again, after everything we see the media do day in and day out that so many commentators are willing to take what the msm say at face value and not even question its legitimacy before condemning Blumenthal. The old gray lady has seen better days, I’m thinking that the old media is losing its grip on its integrity and journalistic ethics along with its audience share.
    .
    The latest media salvo as the club circles the wagons to defend their sensationalism and add fuel to the fire, because its been kind of boring in the news cycle lately since the Democrats are winning on financial reform and their poll numbers on the generic Congressional ballot is getting better. In desperate need of a new shiny object fellow journos attempt to shield the NYT distortion by saying that Blumenthal didn’t correct the record every time a reporter got the story wrong so that must mean, since this is a media savvy guy, that he wanted to benefit from the mistake. of course, this is in no way an attempt to dismiss the practice of over-reliance on lexus-nexus, which is the real reason these mistakes get repeated over and over again. Remember white water anyone? Isn’t that the underlying reason why the mistakes the NYT made on that story were never corrected by any other subsequent story by any other publication?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Here is my “threat” against Rusty.
    .
    “12
    “Thanks for irritating new rusty. It is a worthy pastime.”
    So going out of your way to piss people off in the course of political discourse is a “worthy pastime”?
    No wonder no one in this country can have a useful discussion anymore; everyone treats it like Tupac vs. Biggie.
    sasquatch08
    March 28, 2010
    at 6:45 am
    Reply to this comment
    • 12.1
    Sasquatch,
    Sometimes I think of this as a part of a bipartisan think tank.
    .
    Other times I think of being like the Machine Gun Kelly for the Democrats.
    .
    Freeinpa and Newfreedomblog are just trying p o everybody.
    .
    After a long debate, freeinpa was offline for a week.
    .
    He was going off about the late Senator Moynihan but didn’t know what he was talking about.
    .
    I put back in his place.
    .
    I think he is changing his pastime to watching old movies instead of coming up with random things about Democrats.
    .
    Newfreedomblog/rusty is next in my cross hairs. He is either going to learn to come up with valid explanations for what he says or change his hobby to stamp collecting.
    .
    Yesterday Newfreedomblog was trying to say that Herbert Hoover was a liberal.”
    .
    Groenhaggen contacted my work with the intend to f up my work life.
    .
    Look above and see if ever said anything like that to rustyblog.
    .
    Only if debating is lethal would that make sense.

  • groenhagen2

    patricksartor:

    Listen, fat boy, Harkin did indeed lie when he claimed he was a Vietnam War veteran. According to the Wall Street Journal, “In 1979, Mr. Harkin, then a congressman, participated in a round-table discussion arranged by the Congressional Vietnam Veterans’ Caucus. ‘I spent five years as a Navy pilot, starting in November of 1962,’ Mr. Harkin said at that meeting, in words that were later quoted in a book, Changing of the Guard, by Washington Post political writer David Broder. “One year was in Vietnam. I was flying F-4s and F-8s on combat air patrols and photo-reconnaissance support missions. I did no bombing.”

    On another occasion, Harkin claimed he “flew many missions to Vietnam and the Philippines.” And in a short April 1, 1980 statement in the Congressional Record attacking the Veterans Administration for the way it was handling claims related to the herbicide Agent Orange, Harkin said that “as a Vietnam veteran in Congress, I feel particularly responsible for seeing that this issue continues to command our attention.”

    Challenged by Sen. Barry Goldwater, an Air Force General, to explain why he was awarded neither the Vietnam Service Medal nor the Vietnam Campaign Medal (decorations given to everyone who served in the Southeast Asian theater), Harkin changed his story. He claimed that he instead had flown combat sorties over Cuba during the 1960s.

    I can’t get to your cesspool in New York any time soon. However, I have some Marine Corps buddies in New Jersey who might pay you a visit.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “…fullfil one of their statements with irrational actions.”
    .
    I did fulfill my irrational actions.
    .
    I, as I said I would, irrationally wasted my time with you.
    .
    As for Lawyermommy…
    .
    Kevin commented on her being paranoid and when she went off on him I asked her if she accosts people on the street and tells them about internet predators. And, if not, why she has to link to it all of the time.
    .
    No response.
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    Maybe she DOES accost people on the street to tell them about internet predators.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Now, this is another threat.
    .
    This is Federal Jurisdiction and you will soon have the FBI contacting you.

  • groenhagen2

    patricksartor:

    You’re going to press charges against me? Last time I checked, there were no laws against calling someone too fat and ugly to get a wife. Even with the man-child as president, we still have freedom of speech in this country. You liberal nutcases have to accept that.

    Have you considered professional help, fatboy?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    It was when you contacted my work there were laws created during an all Republican Congress with a Republican president where that became illegal.

  • groenhagen2

    patricksartor:

    You’re a very insecure, little man. I’m certain the FBI has more important things to do other than dealing with a fat loser like you.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Excuse me, I work for a living.
    .
    I do not use a wife as an ATM as you do.
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    Hence, F with my work and I use every legal authority to take you down.

  • groenhagen2

    patricksartor:

    You’re not too sharp, are you, fatboy? You posted personal info about me above that contradicts your new claim.

    You’re a fat loser and you’re not taking anyone down. You’re just making a big, fat ass of yourself here.

    It’s time for Limbaugh. If I’m going to listen to a fat guy, it’s going to be one with a brain, and not some pathetic, fat, middle-aged, bald loser with bad teeth in NYC.

  • ohiolib

    Actually, groenhagan, this was your threat
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    I have some Marine Corps buddies in New Jersey who might pay you a visit.
    -
    But by all means, continue whining. Patrick, if you want to f this guy up, it looks like he deserves it.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    No, I was giving you a warning with that info.
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    It may take days, but, I submitted your most recent threats to the FBI.
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    A threat is a threat is a threat.
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    You’re a 47 year old man. I am 39.
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    I am not afraid of old men, but, since I don’t leach off of a wife as you do, I need to work for a living and don’t have time or interesting in going into a boxing ring with you.

  • groenhagen2

    ohiolib:

    How exactly is that a threat. People visit me all the time. I have never considered that a threat. Does Patrick have an emotional disorder in which he does not like to be around people. If that’s the case, I guess I could see how he may consider visitors threatening. However, I am not aware of any such condition on Patrick’s part. He clearly has some serious issues, but that one, at least as of yet, is not evident.

  • groenhagen2

    patrick:

    I don’t think you could climb into a boxing ring, fatboy. If you did manage it, I’m quite certain that you would be too winded to continue with a match.

    As far as being an “old man,” my “real age” is under 40. The only time I have been in better shape than today was when I was in the Marines from 19-23.

    Judging from your photo, fatboy, you’ll be lucky to make it to 45 before suffering a heart attack.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Is that why your calling out a squad of Marines from New Jersey to go after one, winded fat boy?
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    Damn, you have some serious psychiatric issues!
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    I am serious about that part.
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    Hey, maybe if they are as wise as you are, your buddies can arrive to kick my a$$ at the coffee shop right around PD shift change so that they can be arrested promptly.
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    You may not understand this concept, and this is, probably, why nobody wants to read your books, but we are a nation of laws.
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    In your photo, BTW, you look like you are in your early 60s. I would have thought that you were a Vietnam or Korean War vet.
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    Tough years from living off of your wife must have done that to you. Too much staying home and listening to Rush Limbaugh and not enough hard work can do that to a man.
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    You’ll be the oldest tough guy in the jail.
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    I wonder if you’ll be popular in jail.

  • groenhagen2

    patrick:

    “BTW: Working with businesses all of the time, not everybody knows that only about 5% to 10% of a businesses gross income is profit and, in the printing business with all of the overhead and materials, Kevin is living off of his wife’s income among other things to augment about $15,000 per year.”

    Wrong again, fatboy.

    Interesting, isn’t it, that instead of discussing the topic of this blog, you have decided to introduce what you believe is personal information about another poster. You even brought a wife into the discussion, someone who isn’t even involved with this disussion. You’re a pathetic, fat man. Yet more evidence that liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Yet more evidence that liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.”
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    You’re hilarious.
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    If you were in New York you’d make a fortune as a stand up comic with that stuff. Yes, guys making millions and voting for Democrats will pay big bucks to hear what you have to say.
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    You brought up my single status.
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    I make it no secret that I am single and that I am eager for the markets to improve so that I will earn enough to SUPPORT a family.
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    I never thought about living off of a wife. I’d feel like a eunuch if I lived that way.

  • groenhagen2

    patrick:

    I’d be careful about commenting on photos. This fat, pale guy in this photo certainly looks much older than 39:
    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/j-patrick-sartor/13/91b/20b

    Gee, I just can’t understand why you’re 39 and still single.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    BTW: I did bring up all about Richard Blumenthal. It was when I found another Charles Whitman USMC nut online, I decided to see if you were sane enough to get out of the Swamp.
    .
    Stand me up next to Rush, and I look anorexic. Now that man, sir, is a fat boy.

  • groenhagen2

    patrick:

    “I make it no secret that I am single and that I am eager for the markets to improve so that I will earn enough to SUPPORT a family.”

    Maybe you should spent more time working and less time posting on Swampland, fatboy.

    BTW, women don’t exactly go for fat, pale, and whiny losers with insecurity issues. Your failures in the business world are the least of your problems.

  • groenhagen2

    patrick:

    “Stand me up next to Rush, and I look anorexic. Now that man, sir, is a fat boy.”

    Not really. At 200 lbs., Limbaugh is just a few pounds heavier than I am. You’re what, 250 or 260? You’re BMI is obviously in the obese range.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    You know what one of my relatives said when he heard a macho dude was checking out my pictures and calling me effeminate said?
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    He said, “Don’t tell me, he called you cute and asked for your phone number.”
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    Obviously from the post, Sedition, you do have some extreme issues with your sexuality.
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    I keep on saying that it is due to your money problems, but, that is kinder (especially in your terms) than saying that you are another Ted Haggard.
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    Maybe when they arrest you it will turn out that you’ve been using you’re wife’s money for Meth and gay hustlers.
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    Did you hear about the fight at the gay bar?
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    They went outside and exchanged blows.
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    (I think that might be your fantasy, but, I know I like ladies only.)

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I don’t have trouble getting women’s phone numbers.
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    I am, definitely not whiney.
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    A drunk former Navy guy sucker punched me a few years ago. He got six months probation since I didn’t stop until he was prosecuted.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I’d, also, look like a telephone pole.
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    He is shorter than I am. He is much, much shorter than I am.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Let me warn you again:

    We live in a country of laws.

    The more you say the more trouble you are going to get into.

    Ask your public defender and he will explain it to you.

    It should be a few more day.

    To be frank, the time I spent seventeen months getting a former Navy man prosecuted (he was eight years older than I am, about your age) and would rather just never deal with you again for the rest of my life.

    So, the more you type, the more problems you will have unless you are ready to take it all back. Then you may just be forbidden from using the internet as a condition of your probation.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “However, I have some Marine Corps buddies in New Jersey who might pay you a visit.”
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    Oh, and that means that they wanted to buy an office building and, maybe, introduce me to their 30 year old, single niece, right?
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    Now, if you said, “I have some friends in New Jersey – really good guys – they know plenty of people who want to open a business in Manhattan” or “They know plenty of nice girls who would like a man like you” now that would be something totally different.
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    Clearly, from the context, no normal person should expect your former Marine buddies to be opening businesses in Manhattan nor to be introducing me to their lonely 30 year old niece.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Sorry everybody.

    I would only care about threats and harassment.

    RWD56, Rusty, Earljr1, Freeinpa and 3X are all annoying, but, they are within the law and I am not about bullying people with the law or with my person.

    All of you can rest assured, unless you threaten me I will just debate you when I feel like it and then, if I don’t have the time or just don’t care anymore, ignore you.

  • apr2563

    What no diatribe against the “librul” press NewRusty? Now if this was a Republican, he/she would rush to Fox where they would be given the opportunity to lie there way out of the problem.

  • apr2563

    I used to work in a bar. As we said when things got heated: “Take it outside!”

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Apr,
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    Once again, I needed to make sure that he wouldn’t interfere with my outside life.
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    I don’t want him outside my door. He’s a mental patient!

  • sacredh

    I often have fantasies involving other men. They come and cut my grass, pull the weeds out of the flower beds, clean out the gutters, trim the trees and hedges, reseal my driveway and then leave without asking for payment. Does that make me bi?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I drove a cab in Boston and New York.
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    Believe or not, despite all of the horns and even yelling out the window, it is Boston which is the hard core road rage town. They’ll chase you down and find you in a real Boston road rage.
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    When I had somebody frothing at the mouth about something I’d slow down next to them until they jump out of their car. When they started pulling at the driver’s side door ready to pull me out and start a brawl, I’d jam on the accelerator and leave them in the dust standing in the middle of the street.
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    Hey, it wasn’t the cool macho way out, but, I’ve got all of my teeth and a clean white sheet of paper for my criminal record.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    LOL!

  • groenhagen2

    patrick: “I don’t have trouble getting women’s phone numbers.”

    craigslist doesn’t count, fatboy.

    “So, the more you type, the more problems you will have unless you are ready to take it all back. Then you may just be forbidden from using the internet as a condition of your probation.”

    Sorry, fatboy. I don’t respond to idle threats from nutcases and losers.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I am talking about in person, buddy.
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    Why are you obsessed with my looks if you aren’t gay?
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    I was wondering why you were talking about being such a tough guy when I saw a picture of a little wimp with eyeglasses on facebook and, from there, understood.
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    Seriously, man, I am glad that you do not find me sexy, so, why don’t you get a butt buddy on a different website and stay out of here.

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