“Rationing” is Back!

If you’re still mourning the loss of the health care debate’s heated rhetoric, don’t despair. It’s about to get another lease on life thanks to the upcoming confirmation hearing for Donald Berwick, Obama pick to head the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

This is a powerful position within the Department of Health and Human Services under normal circumstances. But it’s even more important now because whoever holds the job will oversee the huge expansion of Medicaid, cuts in Medicare and cost-control pilot projects called for under the reform law. Republicans are gearing up for what promises to be a very contentious hearing. Yesterday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said on the Senate floor that Berwick is “an expert on rationing.”

The reason? Berwick is, by all accounts, a huge fan of the National Health Service, Britain’s single-payer health care system. During the health reform debate, NHS was a dirty acronym associated with rationing and horror stories of patients denied needed care due to cost. The NHS is far from perfect, but it does, by World Health Organization measures, provide generally better overall care to the entire population of the UK than the U.S. system at a fraction of the per capita cost. (See a helpful list of FAQs about the NHS from my London-based colleague Eben Harrell here.)

The White House could have chosen to defend the NHS or explain major difference between it and the U.S. health care—the NHS is entirely government-run, for instance, while the U.S. system includes a gigantic web of private insurers, private hospitals and private doctors. Instead, the White House and Congressional Democrats generally avoided talking about the system at all. (Comparisons between the Democratic health plan and the NHS were based on the notion—pushed by the right—that reform was a stealthy first step toward a system modeled on the NHS.)

Well thanks to Berwick’s numerous endorsements of the NHS, the system could be front and center in his upcoming confirmation hearing before the Senate Finance Committee. (A date for the hearing has not yet been set.)

A memo from the Republican Policy Committee makes it clear that GOP Senators plan to associate Berwick with the NHS and, by extension, rationing and the redistribution of wealth. Berwick himself has said, “Any health care funding plan that is just, equitable, civilized and humane must, must redistribute wealth from the richer among us to the poorer and the less fortunate. Excellent health care is by definition redistributional.”

Fitting so neatly into the narrative that Obama is an ardent fan of redistribution—remember Joe the Plumber?—this quote is sure to be hashed and rehashed in the coming weeks.

But maybe with the old health reform debate a moot point—the bill is already law, after all—things will go differently than they did in 2009 and early 2010. Berwick, rather than shy away from an association with the NHS, has repeatedly and forcefully spoken about its virtues. A thorough piece by Philip Klein in the American Spectator today runs through a long list of instances Berwick has talked about the NHS, the per capita cost of care and paying providers for quality based on government standards. Berwick’s stance on these issues is no secret.

As he says in the video above, Berwick believes health care is a human right and systems—like taxation—are a valid means to ensure everyone gets it. He believes the NHS successfully delivers care to the UK, although it could be better. (In the speech excerpted above, Berwick also said “even at age 60, the NHS seems still immature, adolescent, searching.”) Berwick believes there is a tremendous amount of waste in the U.S. health care system that can be reduced through government policies, beginning with Medicare reform. At the same time, he believes patients should have more control over their medical destinies. Marrying these beliefs together into a philosophy that’s politically viable, morally defensible and fiscally responsible would be Berwick’s challenge as the head of CMS— if he can get through his confirmation hearing.

It should also be noted that Berwick, who works at Harvard Medical School, is widely respected in the health policy community. His stance that money can be saved and patients better served by rewarding performance over quantity is shared by most top policy experts consulted by the Administration in the ramp up to the vote on health reform. A community disagrees with Berwick’s methods for achieving this—including most Republicans and some health policy conservatives—but he is not a radical outlier. What he is is outspoken.

Related Topics: cms, donald berwick, Health Care, health reform, Mitch McConnell, national health service, nhs, obama, rationing, Uncategorized
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  • stuartzechman

    Kate Pickert:

    During the health reform debate, NHS was a dirty acronym associated with rationing and horror stories of patients denied needed care due to cost.

    Really? It was?

    Will private insurance companies, which pay close attention to guidelines from the U.S. Preventive Task Force and other groups, stop covering mammograms for women under 50?

    And what about the oft-touted U.S. breast cancer five-year survival rate, which is 83.9%, compared to England, where it’s 69.7%?

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    Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/11/18/are-mammograms-the-new-political-football/#ixzz0npX0GIa3

    How do you suppose that association came to be, Kate Pickert?

  • deconstructiva

    Thanks, Kate. What are your sources / tea leaves saying about confirmation chances? R storm + fury but in the bag, or will there be a serious fight? BTW, rationing never left. That’s what insurance companies do, but I digress. Of course you know that, but RW’ers may conveniently forget. Thanks for your thoughts.

  • textee

    Was this press release written by Democrat party political activist Kate Pickert for the Democrat party or was it written by the Democrat party for Democrat party political activist Kate Pickert?

    Not a sentence goes by without a chuckle, but I especially enjoyed Pickert’s allegation that British socialized medicine “provide[s] generally better overall care to the entire population of the UK than the U.S. system at a fraction of the per capita cost.”

    God, please save us from these fools.

  • newfreedomblog

    “God, please save us from these fools”

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    The comforting knowledge that November is only a few more short months from now is my hope and dream for America’s future.
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    That and the fact that liberal media outlets like TIME ragazine is living on borrowed time. (No pun intended).

  • stuartzechman

    But that’s the God’s honest truth of the matter.
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    According to the New England Journal of Medicine, who evaluated the World Health Organization’s rankings, they concur with the finding that the US ranks 37th in the world in terms of health system performance (link to the New England Journal of Medicine):

    Despite the claim by many in the U.S. health policy community that international comparison is not useful because of the uniqueness of the United States, the rankings have figured prominently in many arenas. It is hard to ignore that in 2006, the United States was number 1 in terms of health care spending per capita but ranked 39th for infant mortality, 43rd for adult female mortality, 42nd for adult male mortality, and 36th for life expectancy.3 These facts have fueled a question now being discussed in academic circles, as well as by government and the public: Why do we spend so much to get so little?

    And, of course, it is incontestably true that the United States spends almost twice as much as every other advanced nation, according to the OECD (link to OECD data comparison 2009):

    Health care spending per person per year:
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    2007 data, 2009 report
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    United States: $7,220
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    Norway: $4,763
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    Switzerland: $4,417

    France: $3,601
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    Germany: $3,588
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    Sweden: $3,323
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    Australia: $3,137
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    United Kingdom: $2,992

    It is absolutely, factually correct that Great Britain gets better overall performance and value out of their health care system for literally a fraction of the price of ours. Pickert had to cherry-pick one year’s numbers on breast cancer survival rates (in which Cuba ranked higher than the US, by the way) to construct any “balance” on this situation at all.
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    These are the facts. You are being ripped off on a vast scale, much more than are the Brits.
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    But hey, who cares? If you’re so opposed to the single payer system the Brits –and our veterans, by the way– are so happy with, then there’s plenty of other models of which to be envious.
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    How about Germany’s system? They don’t have “socialized medicine,” but they’re still giving their citizens a better health care system for half the money.
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    You might not like it, but we can’t just wave the flag like a cheerleading pom-pom and make getting ripped off like this go away.
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    That’s the God’s honest truth.

  • stuartzechman

    But that’s the God’s honest truth of the matter.
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    According to the New England Journal of Medicine, who evaluated the World Health Organization’s rankings, they concur with the finding that the US ranks 37th in the world in terms of health system performance (link to the New England Journal of Medicine):

    Despite the claim by many in the U.S. health policy community that international comparison is not useful because of the uniqueness of the United States, the rankings have figured prominently in many arenas. It is hard to ignore that in 2006, the United States was number 1 in terms of health care spending per capita but ranked 39th for infant mortality, 43rd for adult female mortality, 42nd for adult male mortality, and 36th for life expectancy.3 These facts have fueled a question now being discussed in academic circles, as well as by government and the public: Why do we spend so much to get so little?

    And, of course, it is incontestably true that the United States spends almost twice as much as every other advanced nation, according to the OECD (link to OECD data comparison 2009):

    Health care spending per person per year:
    .
    2007 data, 2009 report
    .
    United States: $7,220
    .
    Norway: $4,763
    .
    Switzerland: $4,417

    France: $3,601
    .
    Germany: $3,588
    .
    Sweden: $3,323
    .
    Australia: $3,137
    .
    United Kingdom: $2,992

    It is absolutely, factually correct that Great Britain gets better overall performance and value out of their health care system for literally a fraction of the price of ours. Pickert had to cherry-pick one year’s numbers on breast cancer survival rates (in which Cuba ranked higher than the US, by the way) to construct any “balance” on this situation at all.
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    These are the facts. You are being ripped off on a vast scale, much more than are the Brits.
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    But hey, who cares? If you’re so opposed to the single payer system the Brits –and our veterans, by the way– are so happy with, then there’s plenty of other models of which to be envious.
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    How about Germany’s system? They don’t have “socialized medicine,” but they’re still giving their citizens a better health care system for half the money.
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    You might not like it, but we can’t just wave the flag like a cheerleading pom-pom and make getting ripped off like this go away.
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    That’s the God’s honest truth.

  • deconstructiva

    That and the fact that liberal media outlets like TIME ragazine is living on borrowed time. (No pun intended).
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    Rusty, it’s Thursday but I’ll make an exception just for you since you made me laugh (thanks). Even assuming TIME is liberal, the parent companies are run differently. Time Warner, WaPo, Bloomberg, for example, all have different biz models. Thus, WaPo is indeed selling NW but TWX relies on the cable biz, not the magazine, to make money. Therefore, TIME can stick around a lot longer than you wish…
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    …or do you wish TIME to stick around since this blog still lets you rant? (whereas RedState doesn’t, but I digress)

  • gysgt213

    I know health care is expensive, but its also true that its expensive for a reason. The system we choose for delivery. We are actually paying more for less effective health care and people are actually fighting for that less effective more expensive system.

    However, nobody starts running to the fainting couches concerned about the money we are throwing down the money pits of Iraq and Afghanistan. While constantly being told these wars are keeping us safe. We could choose a cheaper and more effective way to combat terrorism too. But we don’t. Apparently we like paying more for less.

    According to the USA Today.
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    Pentagon spending in February, the most recent month available, was $6.7 billion in Afghanistan compared with $5.5 billion in Iraq. As recently as fiscal year 2008, Iraq was three times as expensive; in 2009, it was twice as costly.
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    The shift is occurring because the Pentagon is adding troops in Afghanistan and withdrawing them from Iraq. And it’s happening as the cumulative cost of the two wars surpasses $1 trillion, including spending for veterans and foreign aid. Those costs could put increased pressure on President Obama and Congress, given the nation’s $12.9 trillion debt.
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    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/afghanistan/2010-05-12-afghan_N.htm?csp=34

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    But Stuart, those facts hurt the feelings of right-wingers. Therefore those facts are politically incorrect. Therefore anyone who reports them is biased.
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    Am I getting the logic wrong?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    At the end of the day, conservatives would rather pay $7,220 than $2,992 if none of that $7,220 goes to making anybody else healthier.
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    The modern right wing mantra “that’s not my fkng problem!”
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    It is an ideology not of conserving but an ideology not of conserving, as a moderate right would believe in and not just selfishness, but an ideology of refusing to participate in society and pay anything which benefits anybody other than one’s self.

  • roccojohnson

    It’s sad that we live in times in which the best the average commenter can offer up as debate to an issue is:

    • Regurgitated “facts” that the commenter just knows to be ABSOLUTELY TRUE, for no other reason than that the commenter agrees with them.

    • Re-quoted sound bites from the likes of Olberman, Maddow, Matthews, Hannity, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, et. al., with the rational that, again, their hero said it, therefore it must be true.

    • Cooked numbers and statistics that no one bothers to even question, let alone validate.

    • Smug, arrogant belittling and condescension of others, and when that doesn’t work, the time-tested playground classic- name calling.

    • Vacuous assertions, such as, conservatives are primitive in an evolutionary sense, or that conservatism springs from mental deficiency/illness/lack of evolvement, etc. Or, that liberals are Godless subversives trying to bring the country down. What kind of person believes these things? Why is it that whichever party the commenter aligns themselves with are “enlightened,” while those of the other party are sheep, or any other derogatory term you’ve heard?

    Funny how little, if any of the crap that gets quoted on these blogs ever comes from actual, verifiable research statistics available to the public. Most of the material that passes for fact is, instead, concocted by partisan sycophants, and journalists who didn’t do their homework. And people slather it up like gravy, just waiting to spew it back out on someone else that doesn’t agree with them.

    Just one example would be the commenter who mentioned infant mortality rates here. Anyone who knows anything about infant mortality rate statistics knows that each country decides for itself what criteria it will use for compiling the rates.

    The following is the actual disclaimer on the under 5 mortality statistics report by the World Health Organization: “Figures are not necessarily the official statistics of Member States, which may use alternative rigorous methods. Totals are not equivalent to the sum of the rates of the component age-groups since the figures provided are probabilities of dying rather than rates in the strict sense.”

    Also keep in mind that as of the 2001 report the rate for the U.S. was 5 deaths per thousand, for babies 0-27 days old- not exactly as alarming as those who like to massage numbers might lead one to believe.

  • sasquatch08

    Well KP is certainly right, this as a perfect excuse for people to ratchet up the rhetoric.
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    Welcome to the Swamp Rocco, where the dailykos, mediamatters, socialistworker.org are considered by some to be the gospel while Fox or some other organization is by process of elimination the devil spawn of all propaganda networks. Then on the other hand some people just make up whatever they please and post it as evidence that the “conservative position” (i.e. their position) is 100% factually correct. No one here seems to really care about the bigger picture like “can we actually afford x proposition or not?” or “does x actually do what we need/want it to do?”. With the notable exception of patrickstartor with whom I disagree regularly but he hasn’t told me to burn in hell, nor has he called me a retard/conservative retard etc or said some of the other things that don’t bear repeating that are all to common on this site should you dare to question Pelosi and Reed or god-forbid Obama.
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    You should see the venom that got spit at me a month and a half ago when I dared to use the government’s own numbers. Which is why I rarely post here anymore, the “conservatives” are nuts and just out to say things to make the liberals angry and the lefties are just as crazy and out of touch with reality.
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    As far as I can tell 99% of people on here either worship Beck and O’Rielly or worship Olberman and Maddow just and blindly. Don’t be surprised when you get attacked for no reason for supposedly saying something that you’ve never even thought of.

  • stuartzechman

    Funny how little, if any of the crap that gets quoted on these blogs ever comes from actual, verifiable research statistics available to the public.
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    I quoted from the New England Journal of Medicine, who quoted the WHO, and the OECD. Are these organizations’ data in dispute, in your mind?
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    the commenter who mentioned infant mortality rates here
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    I’ll assume you meant me, although I didn’t mention those rates, the authors of the NEJM did.
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    Anyone who knows anything about infant mortality rate statistics knows that each country decides for itself what criteria it will use for compiling the rates.
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    Yes? And?
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    That’s why the World Health Organization has a disclaimer that its figures are not necessarily identical with the nations’ themselves…right, you’ve gone on to quote it:
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    Figures are not necessarily the official statistics of Member States, which may use alternative rigorous methods.
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    Exactly. The WHO is a more reliable source, in other words, especially since their methods account specifically for the reliability of source countries’ administration, as they say quite clearly:
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    High quality of civil registration systems (completeness of registration) and high quality of survey or census data collection are crucial – WHO does estimate the level of underestimation of civil registration systems and there clearly is substantial variation in data quality and consistency across countries.
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    Of course, who cares? We’re not talking about the relative quality of Angola’s or Bangladesh’s data, we’re talking about OECD countries’ infant mortality rates in comparison to America’s.
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    Are you seriously suggesting that OECD nations like Sweden or Germany or the UK are making things up to look better compared to the United States? Is that what “each country decides for itself what criteria it will use” is supposed to mean?
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    Well, if you don’t like WHO, then how about the UN, who have the United States ranked as 33rd in infant mortality, behind –you guessed it– the UK, Gernany, Norway, Japan, virtually all the OECD countries.
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    Or how about the CIA World Factbook, then, which has America at 46th in the world, far behind all of those rich nations once again.
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    Here’s a link to more “actual, verifiable research statistics available to the public”
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    This was really puzzling, though:
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    …keep in mind that as of the 2001 report the rate for the U.S. was 5 deaths per thousand, for babies 0-27 days old- not exactly as alarming as those who like to massage numbers might lead one to believe.
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    OK, I will keep that in mind, but the CIA World Factbook from 2009 has the United States at 6.26 deaths per 1000 live births…an increase, obviously.
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    And the United Nations Population Division has the United States’ under-five mortality rate at 7.8 per 1000 live births, compared to the UK’s 6, or Germany’s 5.4, or Japan’s 4.2.
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    Not exactly alarming“?
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    What isn’t alarming about these numbers issuing from the richest nation in the world that spends over a trillion dollars a year on health care?
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    Are you an American citizen? I have to ask, because it seems incredible to me that this amazing disparity between what we spend –the highly inflationary price of our health care deliverables, and extremely costly and inefficient delivery systems– and the results we receive for this vast outpouring of our nation’s wealth (over 16% of GDP) is not exactly alarming to you.
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    As the NEMJ concurs, just as virtually everyone in the developed nations concurs, these statistics are a reliable indicator of the quality and performance of nations’ health care systems.
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    Is the fact that American babies under five are almost twice as likely to die as Japanese babies, even though we spend twice as much money on our system as the Japanese do on theirs just not that alarming to you because you aren’t an American?
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    Or are you simply being contrary for its own sake?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Thanks for the shout out sasquatch08.
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    The WHO among others have no horse in this race as most academic sources do not either.
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    It is very rare when I see any conservative argument use statistics and, often, I have seen them abused badly by conservatives.
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    As I said before, it is not that liberals control academia. Academia dominates and often defines liberal thinking over concepts of “gut instincts” (so often used by conservatives and no more valuable than the “gut instincts” of somebody on the other side of the argument) or anecdotal evidence.
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    Big business tends to dominate the right of America and if the facts from third parties do not fit, then they simply try to pretend that they are just fudged or that it is a conspiracy.
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    Here in the Swamp I have seen conservatives argue that climate change was invented to make Al Gore eventually become president, even though research began when he was twenty years old and involves about twenty thousand climatologists. Also, if somebody managed to get Al Gore to smile just once during the 2000 campaign he would have gotten than one tenth of one percent more votes and been the president.
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    The facts are from many sources.
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    No profits will be made from the optimal system, so, conservatives oppose it no matter what the facts say.

  • sasquatch08

    Good to see you again patrick.
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    I wasn’t trying to say that all the liberals on here do that, but I have had people (as I am sure you noted) post blogs (ie opinions) to support them.
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    Clearly Al Gore didn’t invent global warming. However keep in mind that in the 1970′s the rage was that we were entering a new ice age. If we’re being totally honest, climate science hasn’t really come that far since the 1970′s. Modern Satellites are surprisingly poor at monitoring global temperature. I was actually SHOCKED at how poor because when this whole debate on global/warming climate change started I said “Surely satellites can tell us who is right on this one” but alas they actually can’t for a variety of reasons. Cloud modeling is the thing we really need, to know if they constitute a positive or negative feedback and we can’t do that yet.
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    The point that I was making is merely that many, many people on here are more than willing to quote sources from the sites I mentioned that are totally biased. I was attacked personally on the merit of my arguments and called a “liar” for quoting C&E News, Chemistry in Britain etc because some person on here couldn’t find the information for free on the internet. Their argument went like this 1) I can’t find what you claim is said in a publication that you have to pay for. 2) Since I can’t find it for FREE it must not exist. 3) You are a liar. I was further attacked for using numbers I gave the link to being a .gov site on budgets as a GOP/Teabagger/liar.
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    People who pull stuff like that discredit people like you patrick. As do other people on here who I’ve seen but not bothered to reply to who seem to make the argument that since “socialism” (which I put in quotes because people get really angry when you call a spade a spade these days, this is my one and only attempt at being PC, because PC is BS) is bankrupting countries in Europe (i.e. massive unfunded entitlement programs) that’s a good reason that WE do the exact same thing because we’re America and we can’t be wrong. This from the same people who say we were wrong for invading Iraq, or for using nukes on Japan in WWII.
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    I remember months back when people were arguing that SSI/Medicare/Medicaid are soluble out to infinity, which is demonstrably not true. The only question is WHEN they are no longer financially soluble and whose assumptions you use to get there. These are problems that have to be fixed. If the feds are bankrupt then there WON’T be any SSI payments no matter what you believe.
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    My whole point is that the left and the right latch on the the lies they prefer to believe and then use them as straw men to create arguments for political gain. No one benefits from that, in fact we ALL lose. The people here are no exception to that. I abhor some the the statements made here by some of the “right” but the “left” says things that are just as incendiary. Both sides have decided “Either you agree with me 100% of you are an enemy to be discredited and disparaged”.
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    Personally I am sick of it. And I am especially sick of how MSNBC/CNN/Fox/CBS/NBC fuel the fire because it gets them ratings. To change your statement slightly:
    “No profits will be made [by either side] by telling the truth, so, both sides will oppose it no matter what the facts say”.
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    I support a lot more democratic positions that I do republican, but the attitude of both sides makes me say “A pox on both their houses.”

  • 1bettyhere

    OK, I won’t challenge any statistics or what anyone says about the superiority of other nations’ medical care because it means diddley-poo. The bottom line is: Does anyone think the so-called health care bill will make it cheaper, better, more efficient, have less rationing, do anything positive? There are all sorts of improvements that could be made, but Congress could not go against the unions, drug companies, attorneys, lobbyiests, donors, and yes, insurance companies that are only too happy to get millions of new customers. Why would Congress consider an average citizen when so many groups were so generous to them. This is a fine example of redistribution of wealth–only it’s being distributed to the above listed entities. Altho I would like to improve it, I’d rather stick with what we have than have to jump thru so many hoops just to get an x-ray.

  • stewartiii

    NewsBusters: TIME Magazine Introduces Radical Obama Nominee, Says He’s Not Radical
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/05/13/time-magazine-introduces-radical-obama-nominee-says-hes-not-radical

  • newfreedomblog

    This is a great link to a story which we all know will go untold at ragazines like TIME or TIME.com. The unfortunate thing overall with the health care reform debate and subsequent passage of this law was the American people were fully ignored. The Democrats on a strictly partisan line passed this bill which will eventually cost this Nation trillions of dollars, and make health care not only unaffordable for those who do not currently have insurance, but those of us who do will also risk losing our insurance.
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    It is the throw out the baby with the bath water mentalitiy of the current leadership in the White House and the liberal controlled Congress.
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    The new meme for Democrats: “F-You America, we know what’s best for you and your children”.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “However keep in mind that in the 1970′s the rage was that we were entering a new ice age.”
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    I will have to take your word for it since I didn’t even turn 9 until 1980, but, I do vividly recall when I was delivering the New York Times in 1988 that I was discussing global warming as a strong hypothesis already.
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    The biggest concern, however, as of the 1980s was the ozone layer being destroyed by hydrofluorocarbons in aerosols and some coolants in air conditioners. At negligible costs, other propellants and coolants were used and the ozone layer is slowly recovering. So, that was a 100% bulls eye on the part of climatologists.
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    There was talk about global warming before my birth and mocked by some people here:

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    I do know that the hole in the ozone layer was going to decrease temperatures and increase incidents of skin cancer.
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    “This from the same people who say we were wrong for invading Iraq, or for using nukes on Japan in WWII.”
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    These are totally dissimilar and I, myself, even thought in college I had good friends from Japan (I was at a superbowl party where I was the only one who was not Japanese, they even spoke to one another in English for my benefit – a very polite and often kind people today in peacetime) a good look at history and you will find out that right between the bombing of Nagasaki and the Japanese surrender, the Soviet Army, who had beaten Japan before, had taken Manchuria. It is fully agreed that we had to defend ourselves in World War II and it is possible that, even with the two nukes, we might have had months or even years of war if we did not have Soviet help.
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    In Iraq, it was publicly known that there were no WMD and, outside of Tony Blair (which cost him his overwhelming popularity in England) and that Husein and bin Laden had contracts out on each other (to use movie gangster terminology). It was a war of aggression either to very unsuccessfully grab oil, successfully re-elect Bush and Dick or revenge for the very failed attempt Husein had made on Bush Sr years earlier.
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    For Social Security, I was not a part of the debate. Increase retirement age since people no longer drop dead at age 55 or 60 like they used to and raise the social security tax and we should be fine. I have a relative who’s father died of TB at age 34 and is now 96 and has been collecting Social Security and a pension for almost 32 years!

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Does anyone think the so-called health care bill will make it cheaper, better, more efficient, have less rationing, do anything positive?”
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    I am so glad that somebody admitted that we have always had rationing of health care and that this is not even slightly new. Health care like all goods and services are rationed either according to a willingness to pay or, in an all-you-can-eat deal by the insurers. But, yes. I do believe that this is somewhat superior since the uninsured were not, under the old system dropping dead on our streets. The working poor get a huge amount of coverage through emergency rooms, but no preventive care. So we have savings in two ways: the “free” care we used to give out in emergency rooms will decrease dramatically with a dramatic increase in covered people. Before the insured paid higher hospital bills to cover the uninsured. Second, the previously uninsured will be getting medical care earlier in the game when they need cheaper and less medicine than they would should they wait. Annual checkups do a huge amount in cost savings. Eventually costs will do down.
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    “…insurance companies that are only too happy to get millions of new customers.”
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    Not true.
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    AHIP representing insurance companies fought tooth and nail against this since insurance companies now are forced to take on money losers with pre-existing conditions who, before this, would have to spend their own money into bankruptcy to cover expensive costs. Now insurers will have to pay for this.
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    “…go against the unions…” Actually union members, second to CEOs are the most likely to have “Cadillac’ health insurance and are subject to taxation. The Unions were very reluctant to accept this compared to more liberal alternatives.
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    In nearly all presidential elections, the opposition party makes gains in the mid-term elections. Also, with a huge number of blue dog Democrats, this bill had to get slashed and cut down to this with complete Republican obstructionism before the Republicans take the majority of the house and, if nothing had passed, the Republican gains would have left Obama completely unable to get congress to finance a single toothbrush.
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    We are halfway to where we need to be. We need single payer. So long as this is an improvement from what we had, it is very possible that in another fifteen years a Democratic president with a Democratic congress can bring us there.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “F-You America, we know what’s best for you and your children”.
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    What I have seen is Republican lies about death panels, rationing (more than we have or had had with private insurers or even as much) lies about increased taxes and so on saying “F-You America, profiteers know much more about what’s best for you and your children than the people you voted for”.
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    The Republic party does whatever the CEOs tell them to do.
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    Democrats run candidates promising HCR, read bland academic study after study after study and deliver on a promise.

  • rdbauer

    Don Berwick is a tremendous choice for this position. The work he has pioneered at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement is groundbreaking for improving the quality of care. Our current health care system has many serious, complicated and systemic problems. Inflammed rhetoric, from either the right or the left, does little to address these issues. Dr. Berwick has used his passion for improving our health care system to attack these issues in a concerted and serious manner. It is this type of substantive reform that we so desperately need.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    The most amazing thing about that video is, that, before that, I had no idea that before I was born rusty was against climate change theories and had a singing career.

  • stuartzechman

    Neither inflamed rhetoric from the center nor ideologically pure Third Way policy have addressed these issues, as well.

  • xenobun

    I think it will be harder for Obama to say that he does not want to replace your present coverage with a government plan now that he has annointed an apostle of single payer. I also critique the author’s comment re Dr.Berwick not being a radical outlier. It seems to me that many well-intentioned social engineers are not feisty radicals. Why should they be when they have the Ivory Tower aura that goes with imposing social utopia on the rest of us. Still, social engineering is social engineering. Single payer is still single payer. And an academic advocate for single payer is about to test all his theories using real levers of power.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “…he has annointed an apostle…”
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    How DARE YOU compare our mere mortal president to the Messiah, Ronald Reagan!
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    I want you to go home to your temple of The Great Gipper, who died to free corporate profits from just taxation and who feed our corporations from regulations by it’s citizens and repent you sinner!
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    “It seems to me that many well-intentioned social engineers are not feisty radicals.”
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    When our founding fathers created a nationalize package delivery service called the Post Office, they, absolutely, were feisty, liberal radicals and don’t forget it.
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    “Still, social engineering is social engineering. Single payer is still single payer.” and single payer is not social engineering any more than, after the Civil War, fire companies were taken over by cities in GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER to become fire departments.
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    It is not even vaguely similar to “social engineering.”

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