Republicans Cave on Financial Reform, Debate to Begin

I was just about to hit send on a post about how the Dems were rolling out cots for a forced all night session on financial regulatory reform when I got this email from Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell:

“I appreciate the efforts of Sen. Shelby to work toward a bipartisan solution on an issue that will have an impact on nearly every American. The time afforded by my Republican colleagues and Sen. Ben Nelson was instrumental in gaining assurances from the Chairman that changes will be made to end taxpayer bailouts and the dangerous notion that certain financial institutions are too big to fail.

“Unfortunately, Sen. Shelby believes that continued talks on a number of provisions affecting Main Street will not bring the negotiators any closer to an agreement. Now that those bipartisan negotiations have ended, it is my hope that the majority’s avowed interest in improving this legislation on the Senate floor is genuine and the partisan gamesmanship is over.  I remain deeply troubled by a number of provisions in this bill and will work aggressively in the days ahead to ensure that the majority does not use our mutual interest in regulating Wall Street to extend the federal government’s unwanted hand into Main Street.”

What does this mean? It means that the GOP will finally allow debate to begin on a bill overhauling the rules that govern Wall Street. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s office also confirmed that a deal has been reached to proceed. So, no all-nighter, although word is the Senate will still be in until midnight or so. Republicans had been concerned with some of the “too big to fail” provisions, essentially that by deeming some megabanks too big to fail they’d be tacitly implying that the government would step in to prevent such banks from failing. That, in the Republican mind, is dangerous as it might encourage riskier behavior at these banks because of a perceived safety net and would give megabanks an advantage over smaller banks. No details were, obviously, available in the statement on what a compromise might entail, though it seems likely that the changes will be made through amendments to the bill on the floor in the coming week.

At the same time, several issues remain outstanding, as McConnell notes. Those talks have broken down and will likely have to be hashed out on the floor, if they can be. The Republican conference will be meeting at 4:30pm today to discuss how best to proceed. A release from Alabama’s Richard Shelby, the top Republican on the Banking Committee, on the remaining issues:

“This bill still contains a sprawling new consumer protection bureau that will find and force its way into facets of our economy that had nothing to do with the housing crisis.  This massive new bureaucracy would have unchecked authority to regulate whatever it wants, whenever it wants, however it wants.  I am aware of no other arm of the federal government this powerful, yet so unaccountable.  In my negotiations with Chairman Dodd, I have consistently supported strengthening consumer protections.  I have also advocated for a sensible and meaningful role for safety and soundness regulators in this new agency’s operations.  Unfortunately, despite my demonstrated willingness to propose compromise solutions, this sensible step has proved to be a bridge too far.

“Also included in this legislation are critical provisions relating to derivatives.  These provisions, which Democrats developed on their own behind closed doors, were only very recently inserted into the bill.  In fact, I was not provided the opportunity to share my views on a single aspect of the derivatives provision.  While I firmly believe we must end the casino-like atmosphere on Wall Street, I also believe we must protect Main Street’s ability to create jobs and grow the economy.  In my judgment, the provisions as currently drafted would have far-reaching and devastating effects on these businesses and our economy, increasing the cost of nearly every product we use and negatively impacting job growth.

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  • apr2563

    Hooray! Now let’s see how tough the final bill really will be.

  • 53_3

    Yah! I can finally congratulate Reid on his strategy!
    .
    Now, if we could just stiffen that backbone a little more…

  • newfreedomblog

    My God you are the most impartial, and unbiased reporter that has ever taken up a pen, typewriter or keyboard.
    .
    (Perhaps sarcasm may work, certainly calling a hack like Jay Newton-Small out for biased reporting doesn’t seem to affect her).

  • nflfoghorn

    The Reps got tired of looking like their adversarial mascot so they caved. Terrific.

  • nflfoghorn

    What exactly in her reporting leads you to believe she’s “biased” one way or the other?

  • deconstructiva

    Hey Rusty, once in awhile try being nice to Jay (and Kate and Karen and……….). Respect and courtesy (look them up on google) may help too.

  • nflfoghorn

    Cracking News: Crist goes Indy

  • tharwatfawzi

    All in the world pray for the contiued success to President Obama , Senator Reid ,Speaker Pelosi and The Democratic Party.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Sometimes reality has a way of interfering with efforts to be ‘impartial’
    .
    In any event, there’s still plenty of time to debate the particulars of the bill. And it will happen on the floor where we can all see it.

  • deconstructiva

    He’s racing in the 500? For Dreyer + Reinbold? I wish Tony Stewart would try again. His last effort was pretty good. As for Crist, would this split R or moderate votes and help D’s?

  • nflfoghorn

    Thank you Emily Litella ;)
    .
    It will help the Dems, but Meek really can help himself ’cause no one north of Broward County really knows about him. He’s just lying under the radar, cracking up that Polo and Crist are eating each other alive. Also, the GOP credit-card-for-personal-use stuff should catch up with Polo eventually.

  • apr2563

    “Never mind.”

  • Joe Bftsplk

    I know this is only a blog post and all, JNS, but it’d be nice to have some assessment as to whether there’s any merit to Sen. Shelby’s concerns.

  • lcky9

    Gotta love the brainless on the left if the Republicans stop the debate they are wrong if they go with it they are wrong and whatever the left is doing EVEN if it’s the same thing they are the good guys.. I use to think so too than I grew a brain did some reading and found out NO.. MISCONCEPTION.. they just want to sit around and play on the computer and collect a check or let mom and dad take care of them.. well kids the gravy train is coming to a stop.. not for those that are working or have money but for YOU.. there is so much the media on the left is NOT telling you that your not going to know what hit you when your world comes crashing down.. Wall Street and our Politicians will come out smelling like a rose cause they are in this up to their elbows.. Wait .. Watch… and learn..

  • 53_3

    “Wait .. Watch… and learn.”
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    We did. But we got our butts paddled by our moms for not sharing and getting caught with our hands in the cookie jar. We learned, and today, we are the better for it.
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    On the other hand, for some reason, I picture the collective mothers of these right wing crackheads’ slouched on a couch with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other yelling at the unkempt little tykes that those cookies were theirs!

  • nflfoghorn

    apr FTW!

  • newfreedomblog

    Ask and you shall receive:
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    “That, in the Republican mind, is dangerous as it might encourage riskier behavior at these banks because of a perceived safety net and would give megabanks an advantage over smaller banks. No details were, obviously, available in the statement on what a compromise might entail, though it seems likely that the changes will be made through amendments to the bill on the floor in the coming week”.

    .
    First, Jay Newton-Small an admitted biased liberal reporter wouldn’t know what is on a “Republican mind” if she died a thousand deaths and was reincarnated into a Republican mascot, the elephant.
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    “as it might encourage riskier behavior”? Excuse me? “Perceived safety net?”
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    And of course conveniently she went ahead with this story despite not having all of the information by concluding “No deails were, obviously, available…”. Of course when you do not want to print the details or omitting the details due to your biased reporting is just convenient. Right?

  • nflfoghorn

    Can’t wait for the GOP hatchet job to begin: Crist was a RINO, he’s in it for himself, he didn’t care about his party, etc. etc.

    Meanwhile, Polo says in his ads that we need someone in Washington ‘who will stand up to BO.’ There’s a b-ball court on the south lawn…

    Funny – I thought senators were up there to do the people’s business.

  • diecash1

    I use to think so too than I grew a brain

    It wouldn’t appear so to the casual observer. It also would hurt you to make a coherent post once in a while either. The constant spiel about your sudden “revelation” where you convert from lifelong Democrat to ignorant jackass is not a compelling narrative.
    ..

    well kids the gravy train is coming to a stop.. not for those that are working or have money but for YOU.. there is so much the media on the left is NOT telling you that your not going to know what hit you when your world comes crashing down..

    Perhaps you can expound upon this dire conclusion and enlighten us. Where is this precious “gravy train” of which you speak? When exactly will it be ending? Where can I find this “media on the left” and what aren’t they telling me? We await your answers to these compelling questions.

  • sacredh

    Another moderate realizes that there isn’t anyplace for them in today’s republican party. What a stunner. There should be some interesting comments when we get a thread devoted to this topic.
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    JNS, if you want to get lots of hits, title the thread “Rubio In A Three-Way With Two Other Men”. Drudge will link and we’ll have another 500 hit thread.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Rusty, are you actually claiming that Republicans aren’t worried that some banks might still be considered too big to fail and hence would require bailouts instead of dissolution? Are you claiming that Republicans aren’t worried that such banks might be emboldened to still engage in risky behavior?
    .
    Or are you just so reflexively contrary that you don’t even read anymore. JNS just accurately reported WHY the R’s were filibustering in the first place. You would think you would be pleased that she’s reporting their actual concerns rather than calling them out for posturing.

  • nflfoghorn

    Freep, she was saying that your party doesn’t want big banks to think they can get government help if they fail. If that doesn’t accurately describe what you guys think, then tell me, what does? It’s obvious you didn’t read the whole sentence, let alone paragraph.
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    Anyone with an IQ slightly higher than, say, a dachshund, would know that pols play poker with their strategy and want to play their hands as best as possible. Therefore, no details will be forthcoming until they get as much leverage out of their positions as they can. Why can’t you see this??

  • deconstructiva

    Rusty, your panty is caught in a wedgie again; pull it out. Jay interviews both D’s and R’s daily. Indeed, many here on the left complain that there are too many R quotes given by all the swampreporters, so you contradict yourself (again): both you and the Liberals agree that the reporters spend time with R’s. Therefore, IF there is a Republican mind (I question that) then Jay would have insight as to what it is. As for risk behaviors and safety nets / not, look up “moral hazard”. As per your lack of knowledge about the Time Warner Galactic Empire, your lack of biz concepts shows again. Good luck with your future finance reform replies. Leave Jay alone. Then again, you regularly attack the swampwomen but are far more demure with the swampmen. Why?

  • nflfoghorn

    RE Sacredh @ 5.3: Charlie’s been nailed more than a couple times, if you believe the rumors ;)

  • grape_crush

    …it’d be nice to have some assessment…
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    Yes, but not from Jay. She and Scherer are better doing straight-up reporting than they are with analysis.

  • deconstructiva

    Would Crist be in the middle?

  • nflfoghorn

    @5.7: Dang it!

  • nflfoghorn

    “…you regularly attack the swampWomen but are far more demure with the swampMen. Why?”
    .
    He only hurts the ones he can’t have??

  • sacredh

    I’d read rumors about that before too. That’s something that kills me about the republicans. They’re so afraid of angering the Bible thumpers that getting labeled as gay is a potential career killer. A gay democrat admits they’re gay, leads a parade or two, hosts an AIDS fundraiser and then gets on with business. Crist’s sexual preferences are no concern of mine (unless they’re really unusual and then there’s the entertainment value aspect), so maybe he’ll either win or split the party enough for Meeks to pull it out. That last line was a gift.

  • sacredh

    “Would Crist be in the middle?”
    .
    That would depend on whether the “Make A Wish” foundation got his letter.

  • deconstructiva

    FTW!

  • ihmademorat

    Amazing! All of a sudden its a Republican “CAVE”
    When its OBAMA and the Demo-RATS, it’s a “Compromise” as in “Obama compromised on off shore oil drilling”
    How much longer until this leftist rag goes bankrupt?

  • jbaustian

    Now we will see whether bipartisanship is a two-way street. Or if the Dem’s strategy is still to compromise just enough to get 60 votes.
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    The Dem’s argument was that legislation was needed to prevent another financial meltdown. If the resulting legislation produces a huge federal bureaucracy to monitor the lending practices at auto dealers and payday lenders/check-cashing outlets — but doesn’t address Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac — then their true motives will be revealed.
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    If derivatives trading are moved onto exchanges and regulated like futures and options, then good. If they are legislated out of existence, then this market will just move off-shore and the risks will still exist.
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    If one agency is put in charge, if one agency has accountability, that’s good. If there is a committee of officials from several agencies, then there will be the possibility that no one will really be keeping watch.
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    There was other good stuff in the GOP alternative — I do not know if they are in the Democrats’ version.

  • nflfoghorn

    Your comic relief was very refreshing. Thank you for contributing.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    If Obama had held out against Offshore drilling across three votes and then abruptly changed his mind, the headlines would read that he caved.

    As I said above: sometimes reality interferes with your effort to be impartial.

  • nflfoghorn

    Sacred, I’ll take CC’s word for it that he’s a happily-married man. I have no other info other than that. At least politically speaking if he truly IS gay, the party response should be: So what?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Dem’s strategy is still to compromise just enough to get 60 votes.
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    In any other context, 60% is a landslide. Thank you for highlighting just how disfunctional the current Senate rules actually are.
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    It really is a shame about all those elections you lost though……

  • nflfoghorn

    Tanks a lot for that ‘pull’ line :)
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    Maybe, hypothetically speaking, CC feels like Roy Cohn and J. Edgar Hoover did.

  • sacredh

    “How much longer until this leftist rag goes bankrupt?”
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    About the same time frame as Fox news quits being a right wing mouth piece pretending to be Fair and Balanced.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Yeah it sure would be a shame if posting this disclosure was necessary:
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    http://www.mypaydayloan.com/apr.htm
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    Now there’s some innovative capitalism at work!!!

    For those not following the link, Payday loan outfits routinely charge between 500% and 1300% APR.

    It sure would suck if anyone were to regulate that market.

  • nathan7777

    You don’t even know what’s in the bill do you…
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    If derivatives trading are moved onto exchanges and regulated like futures and options, then good. If they are legislated out of existence, then this market will just move off-shore and the risks will still exist.
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    They are moved onto exchanges. The issue the Republicans have is they are concerned that the requirement to post collateral on derivatives will prevent smaller organizations from using derivatives effectively to manage their risk. A rational concern, but one we’ll have to live with if we want derivatives regulated.
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    If one agency is put in charge, if one agency has accountability, that’s good. If there is a committee of officials from several agencies, then there will be the possibility that no one will really be keeping watch.
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    The CFPA will have authority on consumer protection matters. The Fed will still manage monetary policy and will have the authority to manage systemic risk. Which “committee of officials” are you referring to?
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    If the resulting legislation produces a huge federal bureaucracy to monitor the lending practices at auto dealers and payday lenders/check-cashing outlets — but doesn’t address Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac — then their true motives will be revealed.
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    And what is it that you would like Fannie and Freddy to do differently? You don’t even know, do you? You’re just regurgitating right wing talking points, aren’t you? Even the Pentagon is supporting the CFPA. They are well aware of the effect that pay-day lones and predatory auto-loans have on the well-being of military families.
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    There was other good stuff in the GOP alternative — I do not know if they are in the Democrats’ version.
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    The GOP alternative was strangely similar to the Democratic plan…

  • nathan7777

    Hit “reply to this comment” FAIL… Should be in reponse to 15

  • Ivy_B

    sacred FTW!

  • jbaustian

    The payday loan outlets are legalized loan sharks.
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    But the financial regulation legislation is not the place to address them. And there is no need for a federal bureaucracy to regulate these businesses, or every other small lender, or state-chartered banks, or any other lender except the big ones that can affect the national economy.
    .
    If you want a tougher usury law to put a cap on interest rates, that’s fine — I would support such a law, unless the cap is so low as to prevent average citizens from getting credit when they need it. I cannot tell you what rate is too much. I know lots of people pay over 20% on credit card balances. Presumably if the cap was lower, not so many people would qualify for credit cards.

  • nathan7777

    “But the financial regulation legislation is not the place to address them.”
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    If you would support a cap on how much interest pay-day loans can charge, then why not address it here? Seems like a perfectly fine place to address it. You’re just using this as an excuse to not support something the Democtrats are doing.
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    “And there is no need for a federal bureaucracy to regulate these businesses, or every other small lender, or state-chartered banks, or any other lender except the big ones that can affect the national economy.”
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    So big banks aren’t allowed to take advantage of consumers, but small ones are? Big banks aren’t allowed to make bets without posting collateral, but small ones are? Big banks shouldn’t engage in prop trading while also serving as a depository institution, but small banks should?

  • jbaustian

    nathan: what is the purpose of this bill? Why is it so crucial that it be passed ASAP?
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    Answer: this legislation is supposed to address the problems that led to a catastrophic financial collapse.
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    I do not necessarily have a problem with tacking on something that deals with usury or loan-sharking — but I would prefer that they handle the major issues carefully and not just create entirely new categories of unintended consequences.
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    There is a good reason why these omnibus bills are nearly always a mistake. Too many bad ideas get hidden in the fine print. And when the majority party is trying to ram through one of these bills quickly, there is even more reason to suspect the presence of these poison easter eggs.

  • kevin

    Demo-RATS? Oh my dear Lord, that is the single funniest thing I’ve ever read!
    .
    For those of you who didn’t get the joke, he took the name of a political group — the Democrats, please note the “C” in the name — and very very cleverly changed it to “Demo-rats” just by dropping that one letter! So now they sound like “rats”! Get it?
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    If not, don’t worry. It’s a very sophisticated kind of humor.

  • nathan7777

    Why are you assuming that this bill is being passed ASAP? There have been months of negotiations and there will be open floor debate. You can say any bill is being passed too quickly but it doesn’t make it true. Everyone has read the bill, so if there are certain provisions in it that they need to “get right” then lets hear about it. But when people cry “WAIT!” and then can’t point to any specifics on why they want to wait, then it’s just stalling.
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    And yes, this bill does need to be passed. It’s been how long now since the financial crisis and there is still nothing to prevent banks from doing it all over again?
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    I would prefer that they handle the major issues carefully and not just create entirely new categories of unintended consequences.
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    Do have some unintended consequences in mind? If there is something specific that you think will create a specific unintended consequence, then lets hear it.
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    There is a good reason why these omnibus bills are nearly always a mistake. Too many bad ideas get hidden in the fine print.
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    Can you point to a bad idea currently hidden in the fiine print that you think needs to be taken out? Can you point at the last bad idea that was passed hidden in the fine print of an omnibus bill? Can you point to the last omnibus bill that will have consequences other than what Congress intended? I suppose you think funding the government is a bad idea as well since budgets are usually passed every year in an omnibus bill?
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    Like I said, earlier, you can scream “slow down!” as many times as you want, but if you don’t have anything you’d like to fix once things do slow down, then you don’t really care about contributing anything towards the process and you’re just stalling.

  • justmy02cents

    was that right after he gave the orders to sink an oil rig in the Gulf?

  • justmy02cents

    Good Post and GREAT metrics to pin down the left

  • shepherdwong

    “This bill still contains a sprawling new consumer protection bureau that will find and force its way into facets of our economy that had nothing to do with the housing crisis.”
    .
    And that’s a bad thing because predatory lending in housing is the only place consumers get ripped-off by banks.

  • justmy02cents

    paul @ 15.2
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    “caveat emptor”
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    Do you realize that APR on the 9 pay insurance premium loans is very high as well?
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    but when that VERY HIGH APR amounts to $30 or 40 buck over 9-10 months…it really is just a cup of coffee a day.
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    Want to regulate that as well? or just let the buyer decide…..

  • 3xfire3

    Don’t be surprised if there are some unpublished gentlemen’s agreements between Ried and McConnell on changes to the bill that make it more acceptable to the republicans. Maybe that’s the reason for the change in strategy.
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    Don’t celebrate too much yet.

  • justmy02cents

    Shep,
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    We all know that financial institutions , big and small, will ride the gravy train as long as they can and make massive profits as long as they can.
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    Federal government regulations cannot possible be comprehensive enough to address every loophols that the institutions use to make a buck…i.e. $35.00 overdraft fees.
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    Historically, the best way to control financial institutions, is through competition….
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    I believe that the federal government has a duty to the public to FORCE ALL financial institutions to disclose, in plain language, all fees and policies.
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    This educational requirement on the financial institutions, empowers the public with a fair means of comparison to make an informed choice regarding their choice of financial institution and products offered.
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    In today’s electronic world, there is no excuse for a person NOT being able to KNOW how make a sound financial decision.
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    A person has a right to make a bad decision and suffer the consequences.
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    Massive government agencies and regulations cannot accomplish nearly as much as an educated public making sound financial decisions who choose whom they wish to patronize.
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    BEFORE you all pounce…government IS responsible for making sure that information is fairly published and that violators who use closely held information are caught and punished….hello Martha Stewart

  • shepherdwong

    “…regulations cannot possible be comprehensive enough to address every loophols that the institutions use to make a buck…
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    I think I see what you’re saying. Since some people are always going to run stop signs, we shouldn’t make running stop signs illegal and we should take them all down. I mean, there’s no excuse for a person NOT being able to KNOW that they should stop at an intersection and, historically, the best way to control intersections is through competition to see who can get through first. Besides, a person has a right to make a bad decision and blow through an intersection and suffer the consequences.

  • apr2563

    3xfire3: At this point I trust no one. Watching CSPAN the other day, I saw Shelby, Schummer, and Dodd conferring on the floor.
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    Because of the 29 stock market crash and depression, strong regulations were put in place so we would never have another crash. In the 80s and 90s those regulations were weakened or repealed. Hence the meltdown.
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    I don’t want to believe an olicharchy controls everything but it is hard to be optimistic.

  • Matt

    This is essentially a white flag from Republicans. They realize they are in an untenable political position and decided to get this fight over with before it did even more harm to their midterm chances.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • 3xfire3

    Apr,
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    My hope would be that the two sides work together in the best interest of our citizens in creating this new bill.
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    If not there’s going to be a lot of incumbents looking for new jobs in November.
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    Would it not be great if we had term limits on these people so they did not become professional politicians.
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    Some experience is needed but not more then maybe 12 years max.

  • kbanginmotown

    Hey diecash:
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    I didn’t reply on the dead thread, so here’s my reply to you…Go Wings! ;-)

  • stuartzechman

    Really lovely commentary, shepherdwong, such a pleasure to read.

  • sieben13

    CAVE IN ???????? what should have been said was that they FINALLY decided to do something right for the country instead of there party of NO mentality

  • sieben13

    If the democrats are Smart they will disregard the repuglicans COMPLETELY as they have no intentions of helping this President undo the mess they created

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    As has been pointed out thoroughly the difference between Dodd’s bill and the Republican alternative are minor. All the rest of this is Kabuki. Which party better suceeds in convincing the public that they’re against Wall Street while simultaneously reassuring Wall Street that they aren’t going to spoil the party.
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    Fascinating……..

  • shepherdwong

    Why, thank you kindly, stuartzechman. Much appreciated.

  • shepherdwong

    I think what’s really fascinating is that, for a moment at least, when McConnell and Corker were complaining about the legislation calling for permanent government bailouts and such, Republicans were essentially running to the left of the administration and congressional centrists on reform. Seems to me that made it hard for them to now argue against lesser reform and also made room for the more progressive amendments that are coming.

  • shepherdwong

    Should be “argue for lesser reform…”.

  • apr2563

    3x we have term limits in California and it has not stopped the influence of money. Elected people just drift from the Assembly to the Senate to a state office to a municipal office. They serve their term and move on. The money follows them and the staffs that follow or stay in position.
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    The Republicans have been totally taken over by the crazies so they have no power, except for the budget. Any tax increase, which CA needs, has to have a 2/3rds vote. They just take what money that is available and continue alienating everyone.
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    As far as I am concerned, only public financing of campaigns will clean up the undermining influence of big money. Not going to happen, however.

  • 3xfire3

    Sacredh,
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    “Bible Thumpers”
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    80% of Americans say that Religious Faith is Important to Their Daily Lives according to a recent Rasmussen poll.
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    That’s the problem with way too many people on the Left.
    They are way outside of the passionate views and beliefs of Mainsteam Americans.
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    Now that Mainsteam America understands the direction you want to take our country, they will turn out in large numbers in November to send you back to the desert for another 40 years.

  • 3xfire3

    Apr,
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    More taxes is the last thing California needs. High taxes are driving both people and businesses out of California which is only making problems worse.
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    Until California get control of it’s spending, it will continue to go down hill fast.

  • sacredh

    80% of Americans say that religious faith is important in their dailey lives. That leaves 20%. It’s very close to the percentage of Americans that identify themselves as Teabaggers (25% according to you). There isn’t that big of a difference in the number of Teabaggers or us unfaithful. If we shouldn’t be taken seriously, then neither should the slightly larger percentage of Teabaggers. Thanks for the numbers. It’s very encouraging.

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