Obama Calls for Immigration Reform

Updated, 4:40 p.m.

At a naturalization ceremony held this morning for active-duty service members, President Obama called on Congress to take up immigration reform, pointing to Arizona’s controversial immigration bill  — which some observers have denounced as draconian, or even fascist — as underscoring the need for new federal standards. From Obama’s speech:

[...]So responsibility.  Accountability.  Common-sense, comprehensive immigration reform.  I thank Secretary Napolitano for helping to lead our efforts, both on and off Capitol Hill.  And I thank Senators Schumer and Graham for working with us to forge a bipartisan consensus on a framework for moving forward, and I welcome the commitment of House and Senate Democratic leaders to take action.

I’ll continue to consult with Democrats and Republicans in Congress, and I would note that 11 current Republican Senators voted to pass immigration reform four years ago.  I’m hopeful that they will join with Democrats in doing so again so we can make the progress the American people deserve.

Indeed, our failure to act responsibly at the federal level will only open the door to irresponsibility by others.  And that includes, for example, the recent efforts in Arizona, which threatened to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe.

In fact, I’ve instructed members of my administration to closely monitor the situation and examine the civil rights and other implications of this legislation. But if we continue to fail to act at a federal level, we will continue to see misguided efforts opening up around the country.

It will be interesting to see how Congressional Democrats proceed. It’s too soon to book financial re-regulation in the win column, but with a cloture vote slated for late Monday afternoon, there’s been a lot of buzz over whether immigration reform will leapfrog energy legislation as the next item on the Democratic agenda. The sweeping nature of the Arizona legislation — the bill, which is sitting on Republican Gov. Jan Brewer’s desk, which Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed Friday afternoon*, will require police to stop suspected illegal immigrants and arrest those who lack proper documentation — may have played a role in spurring Democrats to address an issue central to one of its core constituencies. And while House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicates she will take up immigration reform if the Senate acts first, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, the party’s point man on both issues, is urging Majority Leader Harry Reid to stick to the original script.

*More on Brewer’s decision here.

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  • nflfoghorn

    Wait, let me pull out my birth certificate. It’s in the back of my car. Seriously.

  • megatronrises

    Thanks for the report Alex.
    .
    When do you think “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell,” or gay issues in general, will make it’s way to the forefront? Is that the natural next step after immigration?

  • Alex Altman

    Hey Megatron – Action on “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” isn’t coming down the pike this year. Robert Gibbs addressed this on Wednesday during the press briefing. Here’s the exchange, if you’re curious:

    [GIBBS:] The President has made and is committed to making this changed law. I don’t think he’s underestimated the — as you said, the patience of some. The President wants to see this law changed, just as you’ve heard the Chair of the Joint Chiefs and others in the military say that it’s time for that change to happen.

    Q But he’s committed to them letting the Pentagon work through its working group process until December 1st, is that true? He’s committed to that?

    MR. GIBBS: Yes. The President has set forward a process with the Joint — the Chair of the Joint Chiefs and with the Secretary of Defense to work through this issue.

    Q Before any legislative action is taken — that rules out legislative action this year?

    MR. GIBBS: Well, again — the House and the Senate are obviously a different branch of government. The President has a process and a proposal I think that he believes is the best way forward to seeing, again, the commitment that he’s made for many years in trying to — changing that law.

  • CP in FL

    If you think the wingnuts/tea partiers were worked up over health care reform, just wait until congress takes up immigration reform. Also, it’s going to be interesting for senators like John ‘maverick’ McCain to try and explain why they will not support immigration reform when they supported it 4 years ago.

  • nflfoghorn

    Thanks Alex. If the prez wants to end it, couldn’t he do so per executive order? We’re not cutting out any jobs or anything. I fail to see why Congress should get involved at all.

  • grape_crush

    …the bill…would require police to stop suspected illegal immigrants…

    Great; as if the police don’t already have enough to do without having to pull people over for Driving While Non-Caucasian.

    Or Walking While Non-Caucasian…More fodder for Born In East LA: The Sequel.

  • megatronrises

    Thanks for the info Alex – quite helpful!
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    Happy Friday, btw

  • queencersei

    It is like watching a car accident in slow motion, seeing the GOP alienate this growing section of the electorate. But hey, they are just a bunch of shiftless dark skinned people stealing our precious food picking, dishwashing and landscaping jobs. How dare they!

  • Ohg Rea Tone

    When we think about immigration we would be wise to consider human costs rather than just economic costs. The Dust Bowl of the 1930′s spawned a wave of immigrants to California – from Oklahoma. The immigrants were not well accepted. This human tragedy spawned the music of Woody Guthrie – ……….

    http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/09/where-is-woody-guthrie/

  • apr2563

    Remember Rep. Bilbray said you can tell illegal immigrants by their clothing and shoes. Shouldn’t be hard for police. See that guy with the hirachi shoes, sombrero, and serapi? Illegal immigrant. What? It is President Bush clearing brush?

  • lcky9

    There is ONE way to reform illegal immigration.. ENFORCE OUR LAWS not change our laws for accommodate the law breakers.. END OF STORY..

  • freeinpa

    The green card must be in the possession of the U.S. permanent resident at all times. This means that the permanent resident must have a currently valid card on the person at all times and be able to show it to a USCIS officer, if requested.

    No need for a trunk just a pocket and legal entry!

  • freeinpa

    “just wait until congress takes up immigration reform”

    I love the way the left tries to use an innocuous description of illegal immigrants.

    My favorite is undocumented workers. Which is the equivalent to calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmacists.

    The left never seems to run low on excuses for illegal behavior.

  • queencersei

    It isn’t excusing illegal behavior. Obviously most people are not ‘for’ illegal immigration. It is the racial profiling that this bill would seem to encourage. Just because you have a brown skin tone or a Hispanic sounding name does not automatically mean you are an illegal alien.
    My husband has a friend from work whose grandparents came from Mexico. He gets asked frequently by people to translate Spanish words. He has to explain that he does not speak or read Spanish in the slightest.
    That is the rub. You can’t just assume by looking at someone that they are in this country illegally and demand that they prove otherwise. The state of Arizona is opening itself up to a raft of lawsuits, which it will then have to spend money defending. Money that could have actually been spent on a more meaningful form of immigration reform.

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    I think we’re well beyond a simple enforcement solution. Are you suggesting rounding up and deporting 11 million people? Look, I’m with you about the need to have proper and adequate border security and a verifiable entry process. It’s reasonable in any nation in the world. But, the simple truth is that we’re not merely faced with securing a porous border for the future, we’re faced with how to approach dealing with 11 million people already here who entered through unsanctioned channels. Yes, they violated immigration standards, but this is a human dilemna, not a legal one. Forgot for a moment the logistical nightmare of tracking down and deporting 11 million people. Forget for a moment that if you make illegal aliens enemies of the state, then they go underground and truly do become criminals in more than name only, but in their way of life. Forget all that. These are people, mostly desperate people, who come here for what? Opportunity. Security. Stability. These are simply people who did what they felt they had to do for the benefit of their families. We should not make these people enemies of the state for pursuing the American dream, however inappropriately they chose to seek it.

  • queencersei

    You mean like issuing a blanket amnesty order for illegal immigrants just like Ronald Regan did in 1986?

    http://www.slate.com/id/2183513/

  • queencersei

    And one of the great American novels – The Grapes of Wrath.

  • justmy02cents

    mass deportation has been done in America before.
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    My heart goes out to the other potential immigrants that are still waiting for the LEGAL process to grant them access to America.
    .
    “That is the rub. You can’t just assume by looking at someone that they are in this country illegally and demand that they prove otherwise.”
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    No assumption is necessary, a simple question of any person to provide identification and make a “good accounting” for themselves is NOT draconian.
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  • apr2563

    freeper: There are many illegal immigrants from the orient, from Ireland, from Russia and from countries around the world. Should we check the status of everyone. How about you? How do I know you are here legally? What criteria would I use to visually confirm you are legal?
    Skin color
    Clothing, even shoes
    Car you drive
    Hair style
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    Driver’s license, birth certificate (could be fake like Obamas).
    .
    Freeper, you seem suspicious to me.

  • Ivy_B

    I thought nfl was asking about DADT. In that case, I thought Congress interfered with it to begin with and it is somewhere in a law. That’s why he said Congress had to act. Now he’s giving the old guys in the military a little time to deal wtih it.

  • Ivy_B

    No assumption is necessary, a simple question of any person to provide identification and make a “good accounting” for themselves is NOT draconian.

    .
    So you expect me to carry my passport around and show it on “simple questioning”? May I have your local police ask you to make a “good accounting” of yourself?

  • queencersei

    What about you then Justmy? If you were walking down the street and were stopped by an officer, could you automatically prove that you were a U.S. citizen? Do you carry documentation with you where ever you go, even if you are just going for a walk? And what if you didn’t happen to have a valid form of ID that the officer found acceptable? Would you be okay with taking a little trip down to the local police station while it all got sorted out? People should not have to carry around 3 separate forms of ID or what have you so that they can make a ‘good accounting’ of themselves just because they happen to belong to a certain ethnic group.

  • Ivy_B

    Incidentally, the governor signed the bill.

  • freeinpa

    “It isn’t excusing illegal behavior. Obviously most people are not ‘for’ illegal immigration. It is the racial profiling that this bill would seem to encourage”

    ==
    What unadulterated crap. Every solution that has been presented other than complete amnesty has been rejected by the left. They have sued to get free HC, education and other benefits for every illegal immigrant.

    ==
    “The state of Arizona is opening itself up to a raft of lawsuits”

    Yes I believe the left will file suits at every turn to bankrupt the states rather than provide a solution

    Let’s see where else we “profile” and discriminate? How about suits against employers for discrimination? If minorities or women make up 6.9375% of the workforce in an area and a company who is hiring does not have that same percentage right down to the fourth insignificant digit, tey are sued for discrimination.

    How about the IRS? Who do they audit? The folks making $35,000 or the ones making $350,000? Statistically the $350,000. Why? That’s where the odds say the IRS will find errors.

    So if we have several million illegals from a country that borders TX and CA statistically that is the profile of the people who are most likely to be illegal.

    How does asking them for proper ID differ any more than cops stopping folks to test for drug driving? They set up road blocks at targeted areas where bars may be. According to liberals that sounds like discrimination but the concern of rights pales to liberals under the guise of public safety which sounds suspiciously like the argument the people of AZ are making.

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    Stay tuned next week: The first of several law suits will be filed.

  • kbanginmotown

    This has been another edition of “arguing with Furniture”…

  • kbanginmotown

    Thanks for the link, queenie! I seem to remember reading this article a while back. I wonder if any of our RW regulars will stop by to say: “Oh, if Reagan did it, then it’s OK.”…

  • gloriousglo2

    The wife and me are going to AZ in about 3 months. She’s of Italian heritage, and looks it. Should she bring her passport?

  • jsfox

    New Mexico is nicer and friendlier. Skip AZ.

  • jbaustian

    If you cannot speak English, that is a good sign that you were born in another country. Proving citizenship status or legal residence is only commonsense in these cases; no need to check for skin color.
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    Yes, it is discriminatory. It discriminates against the foreign-born in favor of the native-born. The foreign-born are given an opportunity to prove their legal residence, through presentation of a green card. No green card? In that case the vast majority of Americans approve of deportation, for obvious reasons. This is not bigotry… but when the federal government fails to enforce its own laws, then resentment can lead to random acts of anti-social behavior.

  • gloriousglo2

    Somebody said, ”
    “mass deportation has been done in America before.”

    +++++++++++++
    When was that? Did it involve about 12 million people? Are you willing to pay the 10s of billions of dollars in new taxes required to start this gargatuan law enforcement effort? Will you be one of the ones volunteering to do the jobs in the workforce that these people do?

  • gloriousglo2

    ….what will happen to Lee Trevino or ChiChi Rodriguez if they decide to go play golf in AZ?

  • jbaustian

    Does she speak English? If not, then she ought to carry the necessary documents. Or ask ex-governor Napolitano.

    .

  • artraveler

    Free, I think everyone should have to carry some national ID card. What if a Hispanic cop in AZ wantz to stop while people to prove that they are legally present? Of course, “Hispanic cop” in AZ is probably an impossibility. Maybe they will join Rick Perry’s Texas along with OK.

  • gloriousglo2

    Does she speak English? If not, then she ought to carry the necessary documents. Or ask ex-governor Napolitano.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    She was born in Philly, so I think so……..

  • gloriousglo2

    …..could Jeb Bush’s wife be accidentally deported if she strayed too close to the border?

  • jeriv

    You forgot that it’s a recurring law enforcement effort. In 5 to 10 years you’d get the same # of people in here again.

    And yea, I’d like to see these whinny people do the jobs these guys do. Or better yet, pay what it would actually cost if these jobs were done by Americans. If any Americans deigned to do them, that is.

    These folks complain about jobs being lost, but enjoy the fruits of labor from illegal labor, which is spread out in our economy and keeps cost of living down. Same as they complain about manufacturing being outsourced, but buy everything (for example) in Walmart (aka Made-in-China). Puh-lease.

  • artraveler

    The Native Americans ( mostly Cherokee here) wish all of you white Euro-whatevers and your other friends of various colors or whatever would just go the hell home.

  • apr2563

    kbang: I have a footstool smarter than freeper. But remember he may be an immigrant.

  • sacredh

    Deported to Texas. How humiliating.

  • gloriousglo2

    ….could a large portion of a major league baseball team, flying into Phoenix to play the D-backs, get caught up in the commotion? Being a Phillies fan, that would be our left fielder Ibanez, our 3rd baseman Polanco, part of our bullpen, and, I’m afraid, CF Victorino, as he could easily be mistaken for somebody who should be mowing the grass, instead of playing on it (actually, he’s Hawaiian, so I guess his birth certificate won’t even help him in AZ)….

  • jeriv

    One comment, for all of you people out there who like to stake your high ground in that there are a lot of “legal” immigrants in here.
    .
    Have any of you ever gone through the legal immigration path? Any takers?
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    My wife’s uncle did. Petrochemical engineer with PhD. And you know what? It only took TWENTY YEARS for him to get approved. Just in time for his son to be too old to be able to get approval under him.
    .
    So please, before you get on your soapbox about “legal” immigration, please understand that many of these folks:
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    1) Couldn’t afford to wait 5-10-20 years before their case is finally reviewed and “maybe” approved.
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    2) Don’t have a large corporation who funded their immigration lawyers to get them their green cards.
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    3) Likely lived in abject poverty back where they came from.
    .
    So, yes. Legal immigration is highly preferred. But to say poor people should follow that route is absolutely ridiculous. People should be ashamed for even suggesting it.
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    Just thank your great-great-grandpappy for coming here illegally 3 or 7 generations ago so that the amnesties of those periods allowed them to become US citizens.

  • apr2563

    justmy02cents: You are right. In one of those glorious, honorable moments in American history we deported 1000s of Chinese we had brought into build our railways. Used than kicked out. There skin wasn’t the proper color you know.
    Of course, in another brave moment in our history we put Japanese in internment camps. That skin color again. They also owned property we coveted.
    Then there was our refusal to allow any significant immigration increase for Jews before and during WWII. That wasn’t color but they were “Jewish”.
    Then the best solution was putting the Native Americans on reservations after stealing their land. That skin color thing. Of course, like the Jews they didn’t have “christian values”.
    We have a history of xenophobia and bigotry. Let’s not add to it.

  • gloriousglo2

    …seems some of the militia folks have self-deputized….

    http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/23/militia-kill-records/

    …hope they’re not baseball fans; the Phightins’ are in AZ this weekend. Imagine the radio chatter….

    “Ibanez hits one deep into the gap in right center….he’s rounding second, heading for third….oh, my God, he’s just been shot by JD Hayworth!”

  • apr2563

    Great glorious2: They better watch what they wear.

  • apr2563

    Why don’t we just issue colored stars to be sewn onto sleeves? The stars could be coded to nationality, ethnicity, mental status, gender preference. Everyone would have to carry identification information. What, it has been done before? Yes, but I understand it was a very efficient system.

  • gloriousglo2

    …the last one was a joke, and I’m sure that JD would do no such thing to Raul Ibanez. Sure hope Joe Apaio keeps it holstered though…..yeah, you just know that nothing good is going to come out of this….

  • sacredh

    I hear the uniforms were pretty snappy too.

  • gloriousglo2

    ….now let’s contemplate the upside of this. Surely there are hundreds of thousands of unemployed Anglo-Saxon folks in the old Confederacy states who would jump at the chance to pick tomatoes in 105 degree heat, mow the irrigated grass in a gated community in Scottsdale, dig a ditch in the paradise of Yuma, lay asphalt at noontime in Tucson in August, or run a floor buffer at the Boulders Resort for $7.37 an hour….time for these great patriots to step forward….

  • nibblybits

    There are many many prisms through which we can look at this issue: politically, as a civil rights issue, etc. But as a finance wonk, I’m surely curious how this will effect the state economically. As purely an experiment in that, I can’t wait to see the fallout.
    .
    If you work on the premise that illegal aliens are fairly mobile, and the neighboring states don’t adopt a similar bill any time soon, there should be an immediate and steady outflow of such workers out of Arizona. Restaurants, hotels, certainly many types of service businesses, as well as any labor-intensive ones like construction and agriculture, should be impacted immediately. At the same time, expect a nationwide boycott of the state by Latino groups and those sympathetic.
    .
    Good luck, Arizona. If your economy doesn’t implode within 6 months, I’ll tip my hat to you.

  • gloriousglo2

    …and think of the influx of new culture these folks would bring to the area!…..

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Arizona, the first fascist state in the land.

  • sacredh

    Is this good news or bad news for McCain?
    .
    What will Meet The Press do if he loses?

  • gloriousglo2

    …why this is good news for America! Just think of all the job openings at JM’s abodes alone. That would be good for at least a 0.4 % drop in the unemployment rate by itself…..

  • Ivy_B

    Now you have me worried about the Philz! Oh noez.
    .
    Thanks for your comments on this terrible subject.

  • nibblybits

    It’ll be interesting to see if the numbers in this article bear out:
    http://immigrationpolicy.org/newsroom/release/how-much-will-arizonas-immigration-bill-sb1070-cost
    .
    “Unauthorized” immigrants contribute $26.4 billion of economic activity to the state and over 140K jobs, according to the article. And of course, Arizona will face many many lawsuits, including from those who are citizens or legal residents yet illegally seized or arrested.
    .
    As I don’t have any interests in Arizona, I wouldn’t mind seeing this play out purely as an economic experiment. My initial guess is that it won’t be the Latinos or illegals (aggregately) who will be most hurt by the bill.

  • sacredh

    Welcome to Arizona and show us your documentation.

  • gloriousglo2

    …plaid polyester pants as to not stand out, I’m sure…

  • nibblybits

    Can you imagine being a non-English speaking tourist who is mistakenly seized and possibly deported to a country that isn’t even yours?

  • gloriousglo2

    I’m on a roll sweetheart…xenophobia pushes my freakin’ buttons…..

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    I’m sure the freedom loving teabaggers will be outraged by this new law.

  • gloriousglo2

    …you wanna see me really go beazerko, start a thread on creationism…..

  • jbaustian

    Another typically incorrect usage of the term “fascism”
    .
    An amazing number of people think anything bad is fascism. In fact it is the the Third Way between capitalism and socialism. One of the most famous fascists in America today is Bill Clinton’s little buddy Robert B. Reich. Don’t believe me? Read his own words.

  • nibblybits

    Keep in mind that it was the boycott by NFL team(member)s that finally broke Arizona when they refused to honor the MLK Jr holiday. So expect MLB to have something to say.

  • sacredh

    It won’t affect their freedoms. Zero outrage.

  • gloriousglo2

    ….not that there won’t be any potential fallout on the GOP side from this. You think John Boehner’s free and clear on this one? That unnatural skin tone of his has got to arouse somebody’s suspicion should he decide to go down there for one of his lobbyist sponsored golf junkits. Of course the pink Lacoste sweater and the Sans-a-belt trousers might provide meaningful cover, and there’s always the ever present smoke screen…

  • Ivy_B

    sacred, losing hasn’t seemed to keep Newt Gingrich off my teevee. My guess is we would only see more of old McGrumpy.

  • queencersei

    Regan did all kinds of things that would not be okay by today’s conservative standards. He would be challenged in a primary by the Tea Partiers were he actually running for office today.

  • gloriousglo2

    ..I’m thinking Johnny Mac gets a gig on the Hallmark channel if he goes down in the primary….

  • http://24ahead.com/ kattest123

    1. Despite what Alex Altman says, I don’t believe the bill has the impacts he describes, specifically the “require” part. As I read it, they are allowed to inquire but only if there’s something else initiating the contact: a traffic stop and so on. If they know someone has committed a deportable offense (such as illegal re-entry), then they can arrest someone. Rather than mislead people, Alex Altman should get a qualified legal scholar to put their name on the line over the actual impacts (and, if that’s Turley, make sure he’s read the bill first.)
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    2. The bill offers proper ID, including an AZ state DL or ID card; birth certs not required.
    .
    3. For all the many things that Alex Altman won’t tell you, I put together a video of Obama’s speech about immigration today (the last is a link), annotated with all the ways he’s being misleading about this issue. If you trust him to tell you the truth, see the video.
    .
    I’d really like Alex Altman to weigh in: why didn’t he get a qualified legal scholar to describe what the bill actually does? Why didn’t he tell you about how Obama misled today?

  • sacredh

    Maybe McCain can get a permanent seat on MTP. I would like to see him introduced as a senior pun instead of a senior pundit.

  • centfan

    The Rep sponsoring this thing was on NPR and he carefully explained that AZ already restricts state benefits to illegals and supposedly cracks down on employers of illegals.
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    So, if the illegals can’t get benefits and they can’t be employed and the police are routinely arresting illegals that are causing the huge numbers of crimes and the Real American lovers of the Second Amendment are shooting all the rabid drug crazed illegals that are trying to rape all the white virgins then why is AZ still having a problem?
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    Could it be the police and state paperpushers are stretched so thin with no tax support that they’re just saying “I’m not filling out another G-d d-mn report. I’ll wait in Taco Bell until my shift is over.”… ? Could it be the good and honorable people of AZ say it’s a great law but it doesn’t apply to their cheap daycare provider Consuela… who looks kind of legal… ?
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    Favorite Tea Party quote to come- “Spreken zee espanol Tojo?”

  • ohiotick

    Boehner is an legal immigrant from Loompaland.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    sacredh my bet is the non-partisan teabaggers reserve their outrage for Democrats and the Left.

  • sacredh

    Derek, I have some Teabagger friends and coworkers. They are ALL republicans (except the ones that call themselves independents but always vote republican). They can call themselves whatever they want to and pretend that they come from all parties and represent all people. I’m not fooled. They’re just the militant wing of the right wing. I’m switching from the democratic party to become an independent. Of course, I’ll still vote democratic every time. I’ll just be an independent now. I’ve been a democrat all my life but now I’m not. Fooled?

  • allthingsinaname

    So do they have to prove that someone is illegal, or is this the case that you are guilty until proven innocent?
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    What happens when someone is asked to see their green card, and they say I am a citizen? Does that someone have to produce a birth certificate, or does the state have to prove that they are born elsewhere?.
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    My hope is that this costs the state more than it hopes to save.
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    Could be a lot of free meals and cost of verification by the State when the have to request all those birth certificates even though they are lying.

  • allthingsinaname

    “How does asking them for proper ID differ any more than cops stopping folks to test for drug driving”

    What is proper ID? Do you have one?

  • apr2563


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    Cheech Marin “Born in East L.A.
    Perfect, 25 years old but says it all.

    Bendice a nuestros hermano hispanos y su hermana.
    Bless our hispanic brothers and sisters.

  • omgamike

    @exiledathome – You do not have to worry about deporting 11 million illegals. Just enforce existing laws relative to employers hiring illegals. If an illegal cannot find work they will go back home. Apply “severe” sanctions against employers who hire illegals; severe fines for each instance of hiring an illegal. If that doesn’t work, then charge the employer criminally. Again, if an illegal cannot find work, he/she will go back home to wherever they came from. Couple that with securing the border (much better than it currently is) and there will result a huge decrease in the population of illegals in the country.

    I am sorry I appear to severe in my feelings on this. But with our economy in such tough shape, with so many millions of American citizens suffering, I have no compassion for the suffering of anyone who is in this country illegally. We cannot afford to provide all the benefits and services to illegals that we are presently providing.

  • annademo01

    artraveler should check some history books; the so-called “Native Americans” got here from Asia by crossing the Bering Strait.

  • annademo01

    I’m an immigrant (a legal one) and I’m fine with what Arizona has done. I resent people who come here illegally. I have many poor family members in other countries who would love to come here but have too much integrity and morals to do it illegally (even though I would help them stay here). People who are here illegally are criminals and should be treated as such. Instead of coming here illegally, they should fix their own countries.

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    “The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all the people. ” — Noam Chomsky

  • jbaustian

    Let me see if I’ve got this straight — if an agent of the government asks to see if you’re in the country legally or illegally, that’s just wrong and it is the first step to a police state.
    .
    But if an agent of the government asks to see proof that you have health insurance, then that’s perfectly alright?
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