A Historic Event: Britain’s First Televised Campaign Debate

From Catherine Mayer, TIME’s London Bureau Chief:

On one topic at least there was a perfect consensus when the leaders of Britain’s three largest political parties faced each other in a 90-minute televised debate this evening, ahead of elections on May 6. This was the first ever such contest, and everyone – the protagonists Prime Minister Gordon Brown, the Conservatives’ David Cameron and the Liberal Democrats’ Nick Clegg; the moderator, a veteran anchor called Alastair Stewart; the studio audience; even the continuity announcers – agreed on one thing: it was a historic event.

America has had presidential debates for half a century. British politicians have always found reasons to sidestep such clashes. But this time, it looked like a win-win-win situation for the three parties. Parties pay for campaigns and TV debates suddenly looked like free advertising to the incumbent – and impecunious – Labour government. The Conservatives, ahead in the polls, but not by enough to be sure of an outright majority, thought the debates – they’ve agreed to three in total – might finally push them over the finishing line. And for the Liberal Democrats, a third party often ignored by the media, this meant an unprecedented platform. As Stewart said, at least once, it was indeed “a historic moment in television and political history.”

The problem with history in the making is that it’s often deadly dull to watch. The debate format, hemmed in by 76 rules, killed much of the drama in a program the broadcaster ITV had relentlessly touted as exactly that, PRIME TIME DRAMA. Westminster watchers could sense the animosity flowing between Brown and Cameron, who simply can’t abide each other. For the wider public, it was an opportunity to judge which politician could best deliver a soundbite or a pre-prepared joke. Armando Iannucci, author of a brilliant satirical TV comedy series set in Westminster, The Thick of It, encapsulated in a tweet the experience of watching the Prime Minister deliver gags. “You can see a little man performing a cartwheel in each of Gordon Brown’s eyes whenever he tells a joke,” wrote @AIannucci.

The first question, appropriately from a toxicologist, was about immigration. Further topics debated were education, the national health system, old age care, defense spending and how to cut Britain’s enormous budget deficit without imperiling the recovery. Since the rules prevented clapping, or any other sign of approbation or disapproval from the audience, it was hard to tell if they were sitting in admiring silence or sleeping. On Twitter, people watching the debate on the telly complained that they’d expected an advertising break (ITV is a commercial channel) and they variously yearned publicly for cups of tea, cigarettes or time to nip to the toilet.

It was left to ITV together with the pollsters ComRes to achieve another historic first, by polling 4023 voters immediately after the debate ended to find out who had actually won. The result, unlike recent opinion polls, was decisive. The Liberal Democrats’ Clegg won by 43 % compared to Cameron’s 26 % and Brown’s 20%.

A strong showing from the Liberal Democrats could leave them holding the balance of power on May 7 so tonight’s result chimes with an odd result that keeps cropping up in surveys of the public mood. With anger at politicians running high after last year’s revelations about abuses of the Westminster expenses system, large numbers of Britons say they hope that the elections will fail to give any of the parties an overall majority. (Or, as the joke goes, Britons prefer a hung parliament: they’d prefer them hung.)

As the leaders return to the campaign trail, their challenge is to shift that national mood into something more positive. But as they left the television studio in Manchester, a more immediate problem confronted them. A blanket of volcanic ash spewed from an eruption in faraway Iceland has closed every airport in Britain. Sometimes historic events really are dramatic.

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  • gysgt213

    Nick Glegg is trending on Twitter right now.

  • deconstructiva

    Adam / Catherine, is Jay still in England on her training thingy? We want her back already! Or at least post something or pix. As for the debates, imagine the British version of Sarah Palin participating. Actually, who is the Lady Sarah equivalent there?

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Well, if it’s anything like this brilliant x-change they had…

    Imagine if our opposition party were led by someone like this. Imagine if our pampered presidents faced grillings like this.

  • deconstructiva

    Instead, we get typical interviews like this on teevee (it’s not a presidential interview and it’s from 2006 but close enough) –

  • deconstructiva

    OT, but as bad as that clip is, this is worse. Rita interviewed David Blaine while he was spinning in a suspended gyroscope…
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/15843636#15843636
    “Do you go to the bathroom?” Thanks, Rita.

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    I’ve always found the British Parliamentary debates to be fascinating. Not only is the opposition passionate, yet rational, but the Prime Ministers are always completely prepared even down to the nitty-gritty details of government policy. The Brits know their sh*t!

  • grape_crush

    …the leaders of Britain’s three largest political parties faced each other in a 90-minute televised debate this evening..

    The important thing is…Were they all wearing flag pins?

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Japan has an ID parliamentary setup. Hardly as enthralling as the Brits, but it always cheers me to see PMs and MPs exchange what-fors.

    Yes, the Brit MPs know their sh!t, while our American congress critters often don’t know sh!t. In the absence of an truth-telling, adversarial press willing to call bullsh!t, this is even more dangerous. The ignorant and the enlightened get equal billing.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    And how expensive were their haircuts and do any of them believe in evolution or global warming or other fantasies created by God-hating Marxists?

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  • http://www.twitter.com/jnsmall Jay Newton-Small

    I’ll be back Monday, ash plume allowing! I kinda miss my swampies, too!

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    “ash plume allowing”
    .
    jay, with all due respect, put down the bong (or give it to joe klein) and get back to work.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jnsmall Jay Newton-Small

    I am working! Just not blogging… Besides, I can’t help it if a volcanic eruption in Iceland grounds all UK flights– can I? Rest assured, if I’m not physically back in Washington next week I’ll be blogging from London.

  • cathmayer

    Actually, swampies, it’s all a plot. Trying to keep Jay here to help me cover the Brit elections.
    And no grape_crush, no tie pins. Just color-coded ties in case three white males, two with considerable physical similarities, confused viewers.
    And deconstructiva, there is no British Sarah Palin, though there are some, shall we say, entertaining women in British politics. Check out, for example, Tory Nadine Dorries’ blog http://blog.dorries.org/ though at the moment it’s pretty tame.

  • sevenoaks07

    The British PM faces question period in the House of Commons every week when Parliament is in session and the fireworks is worth watching. So, yesterday’s event was pretty tame. The attendees got to ask the questions and the focus on health issues policing and pensions struck me. We were well rid of the bloviations of hosts like George Step and others in our self-important clique here whose main purpose is to embarrass candidates. For that they have Nightline on BBC and Radio 4 just after 7 a.m.

  • sevenoaks07

    Frank Luntz is over there with his focus group.

  • michaelfury

    The gentleman from Oxfordshire has a question:

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/a-walk-in-the-woods/

  • nflfoghorn

    Since we’re all colonial and that, could someone please explain why PMs can call an election seemingly at will? The four-year leadership thing seems to work well on this side – are the Brits too stubborn to adapt it, just like they want to keep the “pound” instead of going for the Euro?

  • grape_crush

    And no grape_crush, no tie pins.
    .
    Ha! Good. The lapel-flag pin reference, in case anyone forgot…

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1731655,00.html

    “But last night suggests that there’s little denying that our political culture has lost its ability to illuminate any issue more complicated than the appropriate condiments for a red-blooded American to eat.”

  • sevenoaks07

    Here is one explanation: the governing party holds the advantage when setting the election date and does not want to give it up. It does not always work out because, for example, Labour is in such bad odour, that advantageous timing is of no value. Also, with uncertainty about an election date one does not find the kind of fevered speculation we have here about the next election. However some British newspapers pretty play dirty politics as a matter of course.

    The election are usually of six weeks duration and therefore depend less on fund raising although there have been some dodgy fund raising by both sides: selling peerages and access, As you know our press gets into the next election cycle about 30 days after the Inauguration. What will Chris Matthews do if he did not know when we will elect our next President? Or David Gregory (Peck?) and others for that matter.

  • nflfoghorn

    The Law of Self-Preservation kicks in again. Thx, 707.
    .
    I’d venture that CM’s head would implode :)

  • nflfoghorn

    @707: Newspapers here are tanking. Why are they so important in Europe? To check out the cute chick on the back page? ;)

  • homerhk

    I missed most of the debate but managed to catch snippets here and there. I thought it was pretty boring with Cameron going on about change, Brown saying that everything was under control and Clegg saying look at those two clowns, elect me instead!

    I didn’t think it was as humourous or rigorous as prime ministers questions, although there was the benefit of both Cameron and Clegg getting grilled. What stands out for me is that there is very little difference between all three in terms of actual policy. They speak about it different and have some disagreements on the margins but there is nothing like the seeming 50/50 philosophical and ideological in the US.

    A final point: I have taken taxis back home the last two nights and both times the drivers proved themselves to be more knowledgeable about UK politics than possibly some of the newspapers. For some reason, and I can’t really explain it, I think that we in UK have a population that cares deeply about the poliitical process and political decisions and as a result strives hard to keep themselves properly informed. That doesn’t seem the case with the US – Ok that’s a big generalisation but i am speaking from my own experience.

  • sevenoaks07

    ngn: Newspapers in the UK are also having a tough time. The cute chick on page 3 is passe and the News of the World (Sexploitage in my fractured French) is pretty name nowadays. Taking France and Germany into account I think they have a quality of coverage and a breadth of analyses which is better than ours. The NYT can hold its own, I daresay, but the WaPo is so into opinion that it resembles a capital city’s concern with its own navel. Cheers.

  • sevenoaks07

    I saw the whole debate on BBC World and agree with your characterisation. But the tone was much better that I expected. Do you see a hung Parliament, homerhk with Clegg holding the scales? You really got me thinking when you mentioned your taxi drivers: still all knowing are they?

  • nflfoghorn

    “[Britain] strives hard to keep themselves properly informed. That doesn’t seem the case with the US…’
    .
    More notably, what we call the Tea Party over here.

  • homerhk

    sevenoaks, I think that ultimately Cameron and the tories will win without the need to rely on Clegg – although from the media here it appears that Clegg really did himself good last night.

  • sevenoaks07

    homerhk: thanks. I just came away from the debate with the impression that the plague on both your houses crowd may just do enough for the Liberals to make them a useful force in the House.

  • homerhk

    well, that would be interesting and I would hope they could be a useful force but they really are a middle of the road party – despite the name- they position themselves in between labour and conservatives. In any event, there probably isn’t too much difference between them, as I said. The other thing is that some of the larger issues at play in the us have practicallly already been settled here – free education, free university, free healthcare etc. all that a party is going to do is tinker round the edges. Plus, with even my beloved labour party (back in the day) taking us into the stupid war makes me even less able to chose between anyone now. I will probably vote lib dems if only to ensure (in my constituency) that tories don’t win.

  • deconstructiva

    Jay, I miss you here, but have fun while you’re there. If the volcano shuts down British flights a long time, can you team up with colleagues, rent a car, drive thru Chunnel and France down to Amsterdam or even Rome to catch flight back? (+ fun touristy stuff). No word from Bobby Jindal about the volcano?
    .
    When Iceland wants to make a statement, they do so on steroids. First their world chess championship in 70’s where our Bobby Fischer upset the Soviet chess empire (and Spassky) …then he emigrated there to live out his life. Then their failed experiment at semi-laissez-faire capitalism. Didn’t Britain take a major hit from their collapse? Now this. But when you fly back, have a safe trip, Jay.

  • deconstructiva

    Thanks, Catherine, especially for the “hung parliament” remark. It would be tough to copy Sarah Palin…
    .
    …but it can be done…
    http://wonkette.com/412372/so-there-are-actually-two-sarah-palins-but-dont-panic-you-guys

  • sevenoaks07

    homerhk: could not resist a smile when you said you may end up voting for the Libs just to keep the Tories out. I, too, was a Labour supporter but Blair ended up giving the Conservative leaders a good run for the title of Leader of the C.P.

    I hope we will have another update on the UK elections if Adam, with Catherine’s Mayer, does an update when you are well into the campaign. It may give fellow Swamplanders something else to interest them instead of Tea parties. And they may wonder why our campaigns here need to go on and on and on….

  • cathmayer

    If Adam is game for more updates, I am, sevenoaks07 (By the way, are you from Sevenoaks or is that just too obvious an explanation for your name and knowledge of Brit politics…?)
    homerhk I wrote this about London cabbies: “If the capital’s taxis could be converted to run on choler, they’d have an inexhaustible supply of fuel.” Piece was about the far right Nick Griffin’s appearance on BBC Question Time: http://tinyurl.com/ygtgoek
    LibDem pivotal position is very interesting at present. Very hard to figure out if they’ll do more damage to Tories or Labour. But the chances of a LibDem-Tory alliance post May 6 are slim to negligible, whereas Labour would definitely go for that option if it was a way to keep power.

  • kbanginmotown

    @homer & sevenoaks:
    .
    So, I take it that the debate didn’t start out thusly:
    “I came here for an argument.”
    “No you didn’t, you came here for an argument!”
    .
    Shame…

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    foghorn~
    It’s not stubborn, it’s smart and completely rationale. For one thing, the pound has traditionally been stronger than the Euro. For countries such as Italy, it was beneficial to switch from the inefficient lira to the Euro, for Britain, not so much. Secondly, there is an identity issue at play here as well. While Europe has moved more and more towards an identity of European first, German second, or French second, the Brits have it right in that they are British first, European second. Sovereignty should rest with the state, not be dependent upon the contintent. For all its beneficial worth, the EU has been most effective at crippling a sense of national identity among European states. It’s heartbreaking to watch what will ultimately be the death of so much independent glory and tradition, crushed beneath the wheels of uniformity and integration.

  • Ivy_B

    Have been busy today and late to the party, but if you are still checking – this was my favorite from our primary season.
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    The Wrong Palin
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    ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf1y9s73Nos
    .
    Hope the cloud goes away – my daughter will be coming to London from Rome and home from LHR on Wednesday. I leave here on Thursday for a long week-end in London.

  • sevenoaks07

    Just out of a budget meeting so late to reply. My grandparents lived in one of the villages around Sevenoaks and I visited them every holdiay, and enjoyed the summers in particular. Most of my time was spent at Oxford, both university and work.

    I assume you will be covering the election for TIME so will keep an eye out for your articles.

  • po8crg

    Nearest equivalent to Sarah Palin, probably Nigel Farage, of the anti-European UKIP party.

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