Pawlenty vs. Romney – A Preview?

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, a possible contender for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, has announced he will join a growing number of states challenging the legality of the health reform law.

This further distinguishes Pawlenty from another top contender for the nomination, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. (Romney, you may remember, launched state-based reforms in Massachusetts that are very similar to the Democrats’ federal health reform plan. Info on Romney’s probably futile attempts to distance himself from this fact here and here.)

Pawlenty’s move was not unexpected given that Minnesota Attorney General Lori Swanson, a Democrat, declined to join the suit despite the governor’s urging. But Pawlenty also publicly twice rejected the idea of instituting an individual mandate for insurance in his state, while this is a major tenet of Romneycare. Although 2012 feels far away, with the 2010 congressional elections bearing down on us, Pawlenty appears to have already laid some crucial groundwork. Of course, that’s only helpful if health care is a top issue in the 2012 GOP primaries.

Related Topics: constitutionality, Health Care, health reform, individual mandate, mitt romney, tim pawlenty, Uncategorized
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  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Well, I fully expect 2012 Primaries to be about who can run the farthest right the fastest so Health Care will be brought up by those who are further right on the issue (like Pawlenty).

  • Paul-no not that one

    STEPHANOPOULOS: So just to be clear, are you suggesting that any parts of the plan as the president has laid it out are unconstitutional?

    PAWLENTY: Well, I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s a legal issue.

  • ricardo4max

    No No NO NO NO NO Pawlenty No Romney! No left wing media choosing our candidate again. No crossdressers..errrr… crossover liberal voters in primaries either!

  • conversets

    Of course, that’s only helpful if health care will is [sic] a top issue in the 2012 GOP primaries.

    And if enough ignorant Americans continue to believe the blatant lies coming from repub pols and their media-partner-in-crime.

  • grape_crush

    Pawlenty’s move was not unexpected given that Minnesota Attorney General Lori Swanson, a Democrat, declined to join the suit despite the governor’s urging.

    Well, Pawlenty could try to pull what Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal has allegedly done and threaten to reduce the AG office’s staffing budget unless Swanson joined the suit.

    http://www.eunicetoday.com/content/ags-role-healthcare-suit-may-have-been-part-budget-agreement

  • shepherdwong

    “Pawlenty vs. Romney…”
    .
    Man, did you ever draw the assignment short straw. A real waste of talent in my book.

  • kevin

    Pawlenty v. Romney.
    .
    I almost fell asleep just typing that.

  • grape_crush

    Ha! That’s funny.

  • tstar3

    Ha Ha..The Republicans are screwed in 2012. It must be the Pepsi talking but I might want $arah Moneybags to run…

  • nflfoghorn

    It’s finally happened: Snuffleupagus vs. the Paw-Paw.

  • destor23

    He should deployt the National Guard to defend people from having to purchase health insurance. Though if anyone gets shot the bills will be through the roof.

  • tstar3

    Magic Mitt v T Paw….The Helmet v The Mullet…

  • square1

    I’m just blown away by the political gifts that Obama has been handed. First he gets to run in 2008 and his most formidable opponent is a woman with no significant campaign experience (Hillary’s victories in ’00 and ’06 were walks in the park).

    Then, when the GOP should be poised to capitalize on the disenchantment of the Democratic base, the Republicans go into a full-on meltdown and insist on teabag purity tests.

    In a sane world, Pawlenty would be positioning himself for a run for the White House with a little Sista Souljah-ing of the nutjobs in the the teabag movement and trying to pick off older independents and Reagan Democrats (Hint: They’re called ‘independents’ because they don’t like the Republican Party). The party should be so desperate to regain some modicum of political power that they would accept an imperfect candidate with cross-over appeal. Instead 3/4 of the GOP appears to want to recreate the 1964 election with Palin playing the role of mentally-retarded Barry Goldwater.

  • stuartzechman

    Kate Pickert:
    .
    What kind of impression did you make with your editor to be handed this dog of an assignment?
    .
    Did you spill scalding coffee on Rick Stengal’s pants, or something?

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Square,
    .
    I won’t make light of Obama the candidate or the campaign he ran. Both were excellent, though I wish (as foreshadowing for how he’s governed) he’d brought out the daggers a little earlier.
    .
    But post-election, discounting the “gifts” of an insane opposition and WHOLLY dysfunctional media, he does seem to be coming up roses at the moment. Sadly, this will validate the centrists’ worst impulses. See, we can ignore our base, keep trolling for corp. $ and still be called winners.

  • textee

    Time magazine personality Kate Pickert wonders “if health care [will be] a top issue in the 2012 GOP primaries.”

    Wow. Obama and his cultists just pushed through an anti-American socialized medicine scheme affecting the entire U.S. economy, freedom and the American way that will destroy the world’s finest medicine, and the geniuses at Time magazine think that health care might not be an issue during the 2012 Republican primaries? Wow.

    Rhymes with cupid ….

  • http://flounder73.wordpress.com pafro

    I have an article saved where Pawlenty freaks out about President Obama giving a speech to kids to do good in school, and he implies that Obama is asking kids to write to him so he can create a secret list of children to exploit for a nefarious purpose.
    I am going to bust it out on those occasions where you start writing articles about Pawlenty without noting he is a paranoid and deranged freak:

    Pawlenty said he understood the address would encourage school children to write to the president.
    “There are going to be questions about — well, what are they are going to do with those names and is that for the purpose of a mailing list?” the governor said on the radio.

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/57249992.html?page=2&c=y

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    “I am going to bust it out on those occasions where you start writing articles about Pawlenty without noting he is a paranoid and deranged freak”
    .
    Well, he knows his constituents and that (paranoid derangement) seems the go-to recipe for GOP aspirants.
    .
    BTW, you are speaking to a representative of Time Warner, an entity which managed to do a Beck cover (many commenters have never returned) without conveying his insanely brilliant demagogy.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Ok….
    .
    How does this effect the economy? I’d love to know how you think it’ll damage the economy. I mean, already employers are the ones expected to shell out for health care and Republicans have been opposed at every level at changing what is largely considered the biggest disadvantage American employers have in the global market. So since Republicans wouldn’t let it be changed, Obama went and entrenched it instead.
    .
    How does this effect freedom? Sure, it gives you a tax penalty if you don’t have health insurance but can afford it, but as Mitt Romney once put it, the government is ensuring that when you show up to the emergency room, your insurance is going to pay for you and not the American taxpayer. If you don’t have health care insurance, you’re basically paying the federal government for the insurance you don’t have that they’re on the hook for anyways.
    .
    How does this effect the American way? You are still expected to provide for yourself for your own health care, really. The fundamental operation of the health care industry hasn’t changed. Doctors and Hospitals are going to see few, if any, changes to the way they operate. So what is really that different?
    .
    What is your basis for claiming that America has the finest health care system in the world? After all, it is twice as expensive as any other health care system in the world while all measurable indicators in terms of quality (average life expectancy and quality of life indicators) are considerably lower than most other industrialized nations. Indeed, every other industrialized nation has a single payer system and is convinced that America is backwards on this issue – showing it has more in common with undeveloped and 19th century health care practices rather than the 21st century world we live in.
    .
    Finally, under what basis do you conclude that this bill will destroy the health care system? Is it the part that limits the tricks that insurers can do? The part that prevents them from denying or taking away insurance for various reasons? The part that ensures that nearly everyone will be insured? The part that gives insurance to more people who can’t afford insurance? The part that expects non-small businesses to provide insurance to their employees?
    .
    Please, textee, enlighten us on how the world is going to end.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “he knows his constituents”.
    .
    I hope by “constituents” you mean the (forward looking) adjective not the (current) noun.
    .
    He is still waiting to get 50% of the vote in a statewide election.
    .
    Friday, March 12, 2010—
    “Minnesota voters have mixed feelings about Governor Tim Pawlenty these days, and just 38% say they’d vote him if he wins the Republican presidential nomination in 2012. That’s down four points from November.
    A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in the state finds that 50% say they would not vote for Pawlenty if he’s the Republican nominee that year.”
    .

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Sorry Pinto! Emphasis on FWD looking. But isn’t getting 50% often a challenge in MN, what with reform, green or indie candidates? But I get you–when living abroad the first time, my colleagues (from Oz, NZ, Canuckistan) would look at me askance, as if I’d voted for the wanker occupying the WH.

    And good luck to your Twins. My heart wrenched by the Dukies, I’m immediately moving on to that narcotic on the diamond, here (Go Hanshin!) and there, a whimpering Go O’s!

  • kevin

    I’d also like to hear how a plan with absolutely no government-run program is “socialized medicine;” how a plan based equally on the ideas of Republicans from 1993 and Mitt Romney’s plan in Massachusetts is “un-American;” and how it will “destroy medicine” entirely — like by blowing up a pharmacy or something?
    .
    And then I’d like textee to tell us where he gets these hardcore hallucinogens that he’s taking.

  • http://teacherreaderwriter.wordpress.com/ Shakespeare in GA

    Wow. Textee once again just drops a steaming load of hyperbolic opinion, makes sure to stick a fork in the eye of any readers to the left of Gunga Din, and then retreats back into silence when posters ask him to back up his comments. Just wow.
    .
    Rhymes with thumb…

  • scdaddyo

    All that Pawlenty, Palin and Huckabee to is re-elect Obama.

  • ricardo4max

    The TOP issue in the upcoming election is now and will be SOCIALISM. The Democrats and the radical Marxist in the White House must be defeated. If it’s lies you’re looking for, check out the current White House propaganda campaign against conservatives.

  • abdullah69

    Any politician that has to run on issues knows that he cannot run on policies.

  • sacredh

    If Pawlenty vs. Pomney is the preview, can we start planning another parade now?

  • deconstructiva

    Can we clone those two into Pawlomnney? (sounds like a deli meat – is it kosher or halal? but I digress) Even then they stand no chance against Palin / Bachmann.

  • sacredh

    I have friends that keep telling me that the left is scared to death of Palin, Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty etc.. I don’t think any of them stand an ice cube’s chance in hell. If that’s the best they have to offer I don’t foresee any sleepless nights on my part.
    .
    I fully expect us to lose seats in the house and senate in November. We’ve had two wave elections in a row and this is the midterms. If our losses are anywhere near historical levels for off year elections, I’m going to breathe a sign of relief. I’m expecting 3-5 senate seats and around 20-25 house seats. Anything less and I’m going to party.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Romney is the only one I see as a credible threat. If he runs on competence, he can give a good run. If he runs on anything else, he’s going to lose either the primaries or the general.

  • vintel7

    Good …let it be either one of these. Better yet, let it be Palin. Don’t insult President Obama’s Health Care Reform by comparing it to Romney’s. I live in Ma. and ,let me tell ya……Romney’s plan is an absolute loser and unpopular with everyone. President Obama’s Recovery and Stimulus act is producing fruit, the President re-engineered the Afghanistan war, passed Health Care Reform, made education more affordable for Americans, and accomplished many more things in the 16 mths he has been in office. That is more than Bush 1, Bush 2, and Reagan combined! Regardless of who it is, President Obama will whoop them.

  • lcky9

    this man deserves a second look.. he seems to be OK better than Romney.. We have to see any but another air headed PROGRESSIVE.. someone with some kind of knowledge other than smiling pretty for a photo opt..

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