Dan Quayle’s Advice for the GOP

Mitch Daniels, Mitt Romney, John Thune and Bobby Jindal have records of serious reform

April Fool’s was yesterday, Mr Quayle.

When did TPers become a huge voting bloc vis-a-vis the flavor of the month?

Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin. Now THERE’s a ticket that would keep the comedians supplied with material for a generation.
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Didn’t they make a movie about those two called “Dumb and Dumber”?

When I think of deep political thinkers who I would turn to for sage advice Dan Quayle does not come to mind.

How about “deep political stinkers” you might turn to?
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Would THAT put him in the running?

OMG. Dan Quayle? I thought he was dead,

Channeling Spob:
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“…you lib morons are so hot and bothered with Sarah and the tea party you can never understand that this is a grass movement with beautiful legs. They will always be better than you Dem dummies.”

Nah, he just smells that way.

AP/NFL/AF/JS,

Your predictable comments are a product of the media demonization of Quayle and Palin by some of the best media “hit teams” on record.

I am not commenting on eithers actual intellect or accomplishment but rather on your collective knee-jerk reaction to DQ’s comments within 25 minutes of posting.

Cute and funny characterize your comments … good for cocktail conversation and certainly will play well in the elitist circles….but are they thoughtful, analytical, and factual?

This is a win-win for the DNC.
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If the TP’ers go Perot, they’ll split the conservative vote and the Dems win.
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If they don’t, they’ll marginalize the GOP as an extremist party and the independents vote Dem.
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Win-win.

Here’s a great example of a knee-jerk reaction:
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“BHO is no more a centerist than I am the Queen of Sheeba ( is there such a place?)
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He is a self-centered power hungry Chicago politician.
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He seems to be willing to do or say anything to maintain or increase the power of the federal government which he uses as his own personal piggybank.”
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That’s a 2cents, from a few threads ago.
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Pot. Kettle. Black.

Republican leaders…should reach out…to an independent grass-roots movement

Maybe, maybe when it first started, but the teabaggers haven’t been independent of the GOP in some time.

“grass ROOTS”
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Dang digital channels

2 Cents, here’s your change back:
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I never said anything about Quayle, but thanks for the invitation to do so. I simply questioned why we’re making such a big fuss over a noisy, but still relatively small, group of people. I don’t think you will see many of them in office. The Chosen One, Scott Brown, turned out to be a semi-thinker so they ditched him.

The Quayle editorial is pretty standard fare for the right wing in saying nothing. The tea party movement is one of free floating anger, also standard for the right wing. Quayle calls the movement one based on ideas. In fact, there are no real ideas, just catch phrases and empty slogans.
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Big government, taxation, freedom, patriotism, take back our country from “them”. Beck resembles an angry and aggressive Quayle to me. But in the end, what real ideas for improvement for government are offered? None. Just smoke. Not that they can’t gain the WH again. Republicans have done it time and again with no ideas and only divisiveness on offer. The end result of the last time that happened is the failure of government that they are so angry about, and they don’t even know the source of it and want to do it again.

The RNC needs to fire MC Steele and hire Dan Quayle to replace him.
Because we need a new flavor of stupid.

I don’t care about Quayle one way or the other. I’ve heard Romney and Jindal make speeches. (Jindal: The man who doesn’t know what a volcano is.) That leaves Daniels and Thune as the intellectual heavyweights of the GOP? OK, sure.
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Palin doesn’t need anybody to demonize her, she pretty much takes care of that herself.

Considering that half the people in the tea party movement are on some kind of government assistance, it’s no wonder the TPs lack a coherent legislative agenda.

It would take more days than are left for earth to reach the children of the left. They post nothing of consequence, they are ill informed and ignorant of anything except what they have picked up from MTV, John Stewart and MSNBC. They don’t review the facts and make comparison’s to what they think they know. Dan Quayle was the first to take the insults and ridicule of this group of unthinkers that have no morals, conscience or ethics. Because they can post and not show their faces they resort to remarks of the most base nature. I will share one fact with you all, the movement referred to as the “teaparty” is not a movement at all but the silent majority. While allowing the children of the left to “do their thing” for a number of years now, they have stood up, opened their mouths and said “ENOUGH”. You don’t get to change the values, morals and country that gives you the right to post your nonsense on websites.

When did Quayle start channeling Igor: “Monster goood, master, monster goooood.”

Um, judy, darlin’, people who can’t tell the difference between a propaganda outlet like FOX and real news organizations don’t get to decide: 1) who’s ill-informed and ignorant or 2) where other people should get their facts.

You assume I watch FOX. That’s how narrow your line of thinking is. I don’t need to watch FOX or any other media outlet to know what is right and what is wrong. Again, principles, values, morals, all those things the children of the left abhor are things the majority of real people in this country practice. The work, they provide for and rear their families, the contribute to their communities, the believe in God and they have sent billions of their hard earned money to help those waiting in line for a handout, in this country and around the world. What they will not give up is their independence. This country was founded by risk takers and innovators and people who could and would no longer tolerate what the children of the left are now trying to put in place.

Look, it’s obvious that Quayle would find common cause with the teabaggers.

They have the same sort of spelling ethic.

If that’s the worst thing you can think of to say about Quayle then ……………………….

I think you were closer with “grass”………..

“…the believe in God…”
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…what about families whose faiths have a different God (or none at all)? Do Jews and Muslims count too? Oh wait, they worship the same God as Christians, oops. Don’t forget that when this country was founded slavery was still legal and women did NOT have the right to vote. Did people on the right work to change these? Or the Left? Or are you not sure?

“This country was founded by risk takers and innovators and people who could and would no longer tolerate what the children of the left are now trying to put in place.”
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“You assume I watch FOX.”
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Or worse. Sue me.

“the movement referred to as the “teaparty” is not a movement at all but the silent majority.”
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I can spot two mistakes in your descriptor.

While allowing the children of the left to “do their thing” for a number of years now, they have stood up, opened their mouths and said “ENOUGH”. You don’t get to change the values, morals and country that gives you the right to post your nonsense on websites.

Where exactly is the substance? Your pathetic condescension aside, the people you speak of hardly said “ENOUGH”, they spent most of their time screaming about death panels, birth certificates, and socialism. Surprise, surprise — they are 0 for 3.
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While you were busy playing Rip Van Winkle, it was W and Co. that changed the values and morals of the country i.e. — warrantless wiretapping, rendition & torture, a bogus war, government by of and for the rich, politicization of the Justice Department, etc.
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As the idiot-king W once said: “Elections have consequences.” If you don’t like it, feel free to bring a better argument in November. Perhaps that one might have some actual substance.

To deconstructiva: Ignorance is bliss. Yes the people on the right ended slavery, and passed the civil rights amendment. Read your history.

And yes my statement stands, the people that founded this country, the underclass of Europe, the Jews from Russia and Germany, the Irish, the Polish, the Catholics, Protestants, the poor released from the debtors prisons of England, explorers,….. on and on. NO group of people have an unblemished past. There are places today that still engage in slavery, in genocide, in brutalizing their people. You were raised in a country where now unfortunately you did not have to do anything to succeed so it means nothing to you. This country and its people have provided more in it’s short life to help all those around the world than any other nation or state on earth. Your revisionist memory cannot accept the truth and the facts will bear it out.

judyt8550:

principles, values, morals, all those things the children of the left abhor

You sound pretty certain about that.
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I’m a liberal –I’m not sure what “children of the left” means– and I don’t find liberals to be without principles or values or morals at all.
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In fact, I think that liberals constitute a great majority of the “risk takers and innovators” in this great country. Risk-taking and innovation are actually liberal values –we value progress, remember?
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So I have to ask you:
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How do you know with such certainty that “principles, values, morals” are “all those things” that liberals “abhor“?
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Mightn’t it just be the case that liberals have different principles, values and morals than you mistakenly believe, judyt8550?
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Again, where do you get your information about liberal values? How do you know that it’s correct?

Again, I go back to my first statement, it would take more days than earth has left before to open your eyes. You are being led down the same worn path that has failed over and over and over

You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.
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You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate
energy policy.
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You didn’t get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
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You didn’t get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
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You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
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You didn’t get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.
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You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq.
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You didn’t get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
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You didn’t get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
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You didn’t get mad when we didn’t catch Bin Laden.
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You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
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You didn’t get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.
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You didn’t get mad when we gave a 900 billion tax break to the rich.
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You didn’t get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.
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You finally got mad when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all okay with you, but helping other Americans…oh hell no.
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- a reader sent this to Rosie O’Donnell.

”You assume I watch FOX.”
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Hell, I used to watch Rita Cosby religiously when she was on MSNBC …but NOT for the news value. For the stare-at-the-teevee-in-utter-disbelief train wreck value. And that voice. I can’t find a video clip but she once interviewed David Blaine during a performance. He was suspended in mid-air tied to a gyroscope and she was on a crane. One of her questions was how does he go to the bathroom. I miss her.

I’m still waiting for the substance, not this drivel you keep posting.
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Second, try pressing the “Reply to this comment” button to respond to someone. It makes for a more readable thread.

If you want to know how I know about the children of the left, read their posts on this and oh so many other websites. Rather than state their positions, which I would suppose they have, they trash, ridicule, and use the worst words they can come up with to respond. Children cannot stand to be questioned, to be told their are rules, to be taught to respectfully address others, ….. We have a generation of young adults that are still children and act that way and another 3 generations of citizens that believe they should never have to work.

nothing more need be said

“If you want to know how I know about the children of the left, read their posts on this and oh so many other websites. Rather than state their positions, which I would suppose they have, they trash, ridicule, and use the worst words they can come up with to respond.”
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LOL

Again, try reading 17.1.
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It would seem that you are making a bunch of tremendously misinformed assumptions about the left. Try responding to SZ’s question directly. We would love to read your answers.

…okay, assuming we didn’t read history, fill us in with examples: name and details, please. Links will help. Help us out. What are you talking about? You’ve already spent a lot of time trying to teach us something. Finish the job, please.

So you’re admitting to the vacuousness of your thinking?

Say hello to the Teabaggers:

In the late-March poll, the [self-identified] “angry” population [26%] overlapped generally with those who identified as Republicans. They were overwhelming white (94 percent) and conservative (73 percent).

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/01/AR2010040102468.html?hpid=topnews

Art, right. Ask the tea bags on Medicare and they will tell you they want government hands off their health care. Just incredible. Pitiful.

Judy, you obviously feel passionately about your positions, but they don’t seem to be based on much beyond those feelings. What saddens me most is thinking that both of us love our country and fear for its future…because we each think the other is dangerous for America.

But Ivy, all those things can be explained away. It was either good for the country or somebody else’s (Clinton’s) fault. The problem is, we Dems sat back and let it happen.

When the SC stopped the recount and appointed Bush president, we should have taken to the streets all across America.

When Cheney allowed energy companies to dictate policy, we should have turned out our lights.

When Plame (sp?) was outed, we should have again taken to the streets in protest.

Dems in both houses are complicit in your next few points and we dems should have taken to the streets in protest.

Walter Reed and other VA got into those conditions because the Pentegon would rather spend its money on weapons and aircraft and ships we don’t need.

New Orleans would have seen such a tragady eventually. It is built below sea level.

The Republicans don’t really care about the deficit until there is a Dem sitting in the Oval Office. Reps. spend just as much, if not more than Dems. Only difference is, Dems tend to pay for their spending which is why we are called “tax and spend” dems.

Anyway, most of this is “we should have”. Next time we’d better or we Dems will have nobody to blame but ourselves

Judy, Judy, Judy.
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Welcome to Swampland.

Give ‘em heck, Judy. Most of swampland is so deeply mired in la la land, they would not know reality if it bit them in the butt! You noticed that several brought up the disproven theme that GWB STOLE the election in Florida, when numerous follow ups (including one by the New York Times) showed that ANY recount would have STILL given the victory to GWB! You keep hearing the same, tired drivel from them about how rightious they are and how wrong conservatism is. Fine, let them ramble on, because in November, with the help of the tea party, we are going to reclaim our country from the left wing lunatics. Keep posting, Judy, it is nice to hear SOUND reasoning for a change.

Judy,
Your comments hit the nail on the head.
You did a much better job of stating reality than the few of us Independents and Conservatives have done who regularly post on this site.
Your analogy of comparing these hateful people to children is very accurate.
There are only a couple relational adult liberals who post on this site. 90% fit your definition.
Please come back and share your wisdom with this site. We certainly get very little of it from the Left on this site. That’s also true of the Time people who fit nicely into your description of Children of the Left.
Good work and the truth.

momento,

Glad to see you are reading my posts and comments…thanks…
I could not help but notice that althought you characterized my comments a “knee-jerk” you did not disagree with them or rebut them..

Can I assume that you found them insightful and truthful….unlike most od the left’s comments on Palin & Quayle?

just asking

Shep…

By “real” news, were you referring to WNBC, WCBS, WABC, CNN, NPR radio, LA Times, NYT, Washington Post?

They are nothing but a bunch of cheer-leaders for the left…well-intentioned I am sure, but horrible ignorant of the consequences of their action and what they advocate.

Deconstructiva,

Actually the left was AGAINST the Civil Rights Act and in particular Senator Byrd.

nuff said…..?

Judyt6550,

can I second your statements, I find that the most vociferous America Disdainers (haters is too strong) are those that have little appreciation for the core values that founded America…

They believe in the law when it allows them to sue thier child’s little league coach.

They beleive in the US Military when we are under attack

They believe in Free Press but not in the responsibility that accompanies that freedom to provide unbiased information to the electorate

They believe in Capitalism when they clip their bond coupons and live comfortably

They believe in environmentalism until a nuclear power is planned in their state

They believe in local until Wal*Mart sells prescriptions at $10 for 90 day supply

They believe in God when they are faced with overwhelming circumstances otherwise they are secular

I could go on for days and days…I have observed the progressives and although their goals are appealing, their methodology and implementation are terribly flawed

shep,

the movement is a grassroots conglomeration of people who disagree with the current administration and most of their proposed legislation and their stated goals.

Yes, some are angry.

Yes, some are less educated that the eliteists of the left

Yes, some carry guns and advocate strong literal interpretation of the Second Amendment

Unfortunately you totally ignore the vast “silent majority” that work hard, pay taxes, respect the rules, believe in God, have college educations, own businesses, create jobs, drink beer, vacation with their family, help their neighbors, respect the flag, revere the military, appreciate the greatness of America, believe in OPPORTUNITY that is afforded to every single person in AMERICA.

You, as usual, can provide anecdotal “evidence” of unfairness and use it to justify crushing federal government intervention and intrusion into every aspect of our lives….but you are W R O N G and blinded to what is best for America and Americans.

to: Judyt8550 and 3xfire3 >>>> keep injecting truth into this fool’s playground…..they think they own this blog ….. please spread this location to anyone that you know that has a shred of common sense, an ounce of respect for this great country, and the intellect to clearly enunciate the founding principles of America.

Oh Shep…forgot why I started the last post….but now remember….

Your ignorance is evidenced by the continued reference to the broad-based feelings if distrust and disagreement with the current administration as “teabaggers”.

A progressive friend actually explained what your moniker means…and you are ignorant to continue applying it to us.

But that was your intention…right..in the absence of a reasonable and factual argument, you resort to name-calling……

Didn’t your mother teach you not to do that?