What Set Neugebauer Off

Actually, he lied (I’m shocked!) and claimed that he shouted “[i]t’s a baby killer!”. What’s the matter with Texas?

KT:

Isn’t there some law that if enough of you Texans agree someone’s “got it coming,” this guy could get whacked and nothing would happen?

What set Neugebauer off?

Could it be that he saw how the republican party richly rewards crackpot back-benchers who behave badly (e.g. Joe Wilson).

We’ve been breathing the fumes from Rick Perry’s hair products too long.

Well, TX did produce KT, Katherine Anne Porter, Tommy Lee Jones, and Carol Burnett. It can’t be all that bad. I did enjoy a brief time living in Dallas years back and would ponder Houston or Austin if economy recovers. I’m intrigued by KT’s tweet on 50-cent cans of soda in the House gallery. Are operations like these run / owned directly by House staff? Or are vendors allowed to install vending machines and give the House “their cut”? I’d still recommend KT and swampfriends make their own bottled water (tap water in a used bottle), iced teas, sangrias, and margaritas then bring them in. Or is House / Senate security screening picky about bringing your own snacks / drinks in?

We all know he didn’t get his meth fix yesterday afternoon.

There are great deals all over Capitol Hill. I bought my wedding invitations at the Senate Stationery Store.
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Not sure if you can still do this with a press ID:
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974057,00.html

KT- when smearing a Republican, at least have your facts straight. he said “it’s a baby Killer” meaning this ridiculous bill that will never stand up..not Stupak himself. It’s so funny to watch the liberal media play up the meanness of Republicans for opposing the bill and get all giddy for Obama. No wonder why Fox news is so highly rated. All I am seeing in MSM is glowing coverage of historic passage..pleasing of the kennedy’s blablablabla

chips: i never said he called stupak a baby killer. i said stupak’s comments set him off.

chips: nice to know you were there to hear and/or interpret what he actually said for us.
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Because, heaven knows, he would NEVER lie about something like THAT!

KT- also, how about at least a tiny attempt at balance here at Swampland. It’s no big secret that everybody here is a Lib Dem ( maybe not MS) in favor of this bill. But maybe a post on all that is wrong in this the bill, the cost.the taxes premiums going up. the deals etc etc. there are plenty of counterpoints but everybody here just wants to post about how historic obama is .. Mean Neugebauer..romneycare=obamacare.Kristol Blue Deflation Victory. are you trying to make this like a Kos site cause i see almost no balance here

I think he may have had a few snorts during the late session.

I’m grateful the guy didn’t get identified til today. Screaming little children should not be rewarded with publicity.

“Well, TX did produce KT, Katherine Anne Porter, Tommy Lee Jones, and Carol Burnett. It can’t be all that bad.”
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Also Molly Ivins. In all cases, a very long time ago (is Tommy Lee still alive?). What does it produce now beside traitorous crazy?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/01/washington/01ivins.html

There’s a sucker born every minute (it would be only every hour if it weren’t for right-wing authoritarian followers).

Chips also believes Nixon was not a crook because, you know, Nixon said so! And Palin’s not a quitter! Also!

Nice to have that kind of definitive clarity so readily available.

Feeling a little Chippy today, aren’t we?

“What Set Neugebauer Off”

Knowing he was going to make the news the next day if he acted like an @sshole?

sourchips – If you are looking for right wing talking points, you need to point you browser to fox news. We are tired of all the BS coming from you wingnuts. This bill is supposed to LOWER the deficit. Taxes are only going to be raised on individuals making $250,000 or more.

It couldn’t have anything to do with that $3M in fund-raising that Joe Wilson got after his wittle tantrum?

And that if you retire, you can pocket your campaign money?

No, Neugebauer is a “principled pro-life Republican.”

Actually, Karen’s discussion of the entire health care debate has been extraordinarily fair and relatively detailed. Whether you agree with her opinions or not, you can’t deny that she’s reported the facts objectively.
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If you have authoritative examples that prove your criticisms then let’s hear them. You clearly believe them. Why?
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If, you’re looking for the Fox News’ kind of ‘balance’ — where all of the kiddies are sitting on the right side of the seesaw, you should probably look elsewhere.

I wonder if “You lie you baby killer” was in the running for his little outburst?

sue: As the pride of Texas, Molly Ivins, used to call Rick Perry, Governor Goodhair.

And Molly Ivins. I am reading her book, “Who Let the Dogs In?”. Funny and smart. She was a Texas treasure.

Shepherd: Tommy Lee Jones still alive. Hope you watched “A Country of Old Men”.

So right sacred. Like Wilson, he will now go out raise lots of money from the tea baggers.

Sorry, but that’s “No Country for Old Men.”

Shep, Shep, Shep…
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Your obsession with advocating abortions when at all possible is pretty obscene. You know, it’s one thing to support the ability for a woman to obtain an abortion of her own volition, it’s an entirely different matter to cheerlead the decision. Not to mention ridiculing and misrepresenting the responsible actions of those who choose to carry through with a pregnancy, dismissing them as nothing more than authoritarian followers. You exhibit a flagrantly vulgar love-affair with abortions, devoid of any understanding whatsoever.

By the way, Shep, and I’m sure you’ll find this shocking, but I happen to think Congressman Neugebauer a fool for what he shouted. Not only does it fly in the face of House etiquette, but also it’s egregiously false, given the particular wording of the bill and President Obama’s executive order. It was nothing more than a pandering salute to pro-lifers, or at least, those pro-lifers who still are under the false assumption that this bill will provide tax dollars for abortions.

“You know, it’s one thing to support the ability for a woman to obtain an abortion of her own volition, it’s an entirely different matter to cheerlead the decision.”
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FYI, I have no intention of ever engaging you on this issue because you’re so obviously and so completely around the bend on it. Unless you’d like to point to where I was ever cheer leading the decision to have an abortion, other than in your fevered imagination, I mean. Really dude, you’ve got serious issues about this subject.

jc thanks for the correction.

There’s a sucker born every minute (it would be only every hour if it weren’t for right-wing authoritarian followers).
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That’s not cheerleading? Riiiiiight.

Funny, it’s sitting on my Blueray as we speak. It was waiting ’till my wife was out of town – not much for Cohen-style mayhem – but with the Best Picture award and Tommy Lee, I might just get her to watch it.

What Set Neugebauer Off?
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This deserves to be a Top Ten List. I’ll start:

10. Turrets
9. Cameras
8. Jealousy (of Joe Wilson)
7. Vietnam Flashbacks
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Nope. There’s another, far more obvious and benign way to read that joke but you didn’t get it.
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I wasn’t making a joke about fewer people being born just about the great number of pathologically credulous – to their own leaders, of course – right wingnuts.

bob:
He was actually confessing “I’m a baby killer”.

6. Wet Spackle
5. Close encounter with Boehner’s “Agent Orange” tanning spray
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“Funny, it’s sitting on my Blueray as we speak. It was waiting ’till my wife was out of town – not much for Cohen-style mayhem – but with the Best Picture award and Tommy Lee, I might just get her to watch it.”
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Acad. Award doesn’t also qualify as much, though they were right on this occasion (and this year too BTW). Stunned that you haven’t seen it. A single scene w/ Bardem is worth the cost. Read the novel, better yet, read all of Cormac’s novels.

In that case, please accept my apologies. I tend to respond in a rather hostile manner when I see, or perceive, the belittlement of abortion or the slandering of those who oppose it.

4. Desire (for Joe Wilson)
3. His incredibly small apparatus

Accepted. I don’t take abortion lightly at all. I just happen to think that it’s a decision that belongs to a woman and her health care adviser and anything else is based strictly upon religious belief, which has no place in public policy.

Been meaning to read some Cormac; I’m just terrible about getting to the fiction aisle unless I’m going on vacation (and that’s been awhile). And the last movie we saw in a theater: Spiderman. The first one. We’re culturally…retarded. Though the wifey’s having a ball with Project Runway…”one of you vil be in…”

There is rarely a Coen brothers film I don’t love:
Fargo
The Big Lebowski
Raising Arizona
Blood Simple
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I did recently watch A Serious Man. Well, let’s say I wasn’ t overwhelmed.

Well, if my opinion is meaningful at all. Read:

1. Blood Meridian
2. Suttree
3. The Border Trilogy

I’ve taught and studied lit most of my adult life. Cormac is a living Melville (Oprah appearance notw/standing).

As for Bardem, if you haven’t seen, also check out:

1. The Sea Inside
2. Before Night Falls

The guy’s a f’ing genius

Shepherd: Tell your wife Project Runway is may dirty little secret. Ask her if she dislikes Emilio as much as I do?

jc: The Sea Inside WOW

peeps are crazy here. Didn’t you know that?

Texas also produced your very own fourlegsgood.

Of course I’m not sure the state is that proud of me.

apr2563: All favorites of mine as well – the wife, not so much. I’ll ask about Emilio.
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jc: Blood Meridian it is. And I thought I was the only one who actually liked reading Melville for fun – one of my very few “guilty” (fiction) pleasures. But I’m only up to SUNSET (XXXVI) on this reading.

2. Hearing that the Culture Club might reunite next year.
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And the #1 reason reason Neugebauer went off is…..
Limbaugh won’t breast feed him anymore.

I’m about to teach Moby-Dick (again) to my AP class. Heaven.
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jcapan, what and where do you teach?

The GOP ad practically writes itself. “Bart Stupak, lying baby killer.”

Bart Stupak kills again.

Shep~
While I respect your personal views, and they are certainly not an aberration, I must say that regardless of whether you are willing to view a pregancy as an inherent human endowed with inalienable rights, it is beyond debate that there exists a growing life. To snuff out that life is not merely a doctrinal matter, and therefore I reject the assertion that opposition to abortions is strictly religiously motivated. There are more profound issues at play.

“I must say that regardless of whether you are willing to view a pregancy as an inherent human endowed with inalienable rights, it is beyond debate that there exists a growing life.”
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It is not beyond debate. A “life” that cannot live unattached to its host is no more a “life” than her appendix. For a very long time it has no independent sensation or thought or awareness of any kind (yes, I think near-viability changes everything).
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And there’s no “regardless”. The question of whether a distinct clump of cells has rights that supercede the rights of a human adult to self-determination and not be forced by government to bear children against her will is the question at issue.
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If you claim it’s not religion, fine. But that only means that it’s no more “profound” than any other personal belief. And now I’ve broken my pledge.

Given the fact that Obama supports killing infants who have survived abortions, would Time magazine personalities object if anyone calls their dear Obama a “baby killer”?

Here’s Obama as an Illinois legislator from a few years ago pleading for the so-called “right” to kill infants who have survived abortions (note that Obama actually says that to prohibit the mother of the child from killing that child would be a “burden” on the mother.) That’s one sick puppy. http://www.jillstanek.com/infanticide/baipaobamamp3.html

Obama also supports killing infants who had the misfortune to be born in places like Gaza, Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan, but I guess you don’t have a problem with that.

Howdy, Tex. How’s it feel to be on the losing side? As if your parallel universe actually cared?

Moby-Dick is wonderful. I’ll add McCarthy to my to-read queue. (But it’s a very long queue, alas….)

I’ll donate money to the candidate who promises to prevent Stupak from killing again.

“And I thought I was the only one who actually liked reading Melville for fun – one of my very few “guilty” (fiction) pleasures.”
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Of course, I’m biased, but what in the world would you feel guilty about? Literature (or any art) is as helpful in finding some meaning from life as any text. Melville being no less valuable than Nietzsche, McCarthy no less valuable than Chomsky (who, it should be noted Stuart Zechman, said he would have held his nose and voted for HCR!) Now, if you were talking about John Grisham …
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Anyway, an artist friend from Texas gave me All the Pretty Horses back in 1993. After reading it and tracking down the following review in the NYT, I was ready to cowboy up. Being young and impressionable is a glorious thing.
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http://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/19/magazine/cormac-mccarthy-s-venomous-fiction.html
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I quit that stinking politicking gig in DC and was on the road to the desert SW within the year.
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And Shakes, now I have my own school in Japan, teaching mostly ESL, but a lot of my students are English majors making their way thru college here. I adjuncted for years in CA and FL. You’re lucky to be able to teach M-D. I was lucky if I could teach one long text a term.

jc, since you are the expert, I recently ordered Eliot’s “Middlemarch” on Kindle. It was free. Now I hated having to read “Silas Marner” in high school. I am rereading Dickens, Austin, Hardy, et al. So I thought I had to add Eliot to my list. Is it is dreadful as my memory of “Silas Marner” might lead me to believe?

Apr, guffaw! Expert, the only thing I might claim expertise in is Japanese microbrews, or, for certain, the color, dexterity and varied perfume of baby poop.
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My background is mostly 19th/20th century Amer. Lit. Eliot never appeared on one of my syllabi, but I did read Middlemarch a few years back and found it stunning. Have you read Wharton?

I believe I was moderation for saying poo(p)!?
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Apr, guffaw! Expert, the only thing I might claim expertise in is Japanese microbrews, or, for certain, the color, dexterity and varied perfume of baby poo…
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My background is mostly 19th/20th century Amer. Lit. Eliot never appeared on one of my syllabi, but I did read Middlemarch a few years back and found it stunning. Have you read Wharton?

apr2563, Middlemarch is one of the greatest of all English novels even though it carries the handicap of a protagonist who’s a bit of a Mary Sue. Readers of this site should flock to it because (among other virtues) it’s one of the few classic novels which takes politicking seriously: it’s set during the battle over the first Reform Bill.

Thanks for the thumbs up on Middlemarch. The only Wharton I have read is Ethan Frome, many years ago. That is why I am reading and rereading the classics. I don’t think I appreciated them when I was younger. Middlemarch has another admirer on the thread.
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Although I miss flipping pages and dog earring them, Kindle is nice because you can access so many free and cheap books. I am reading “The Murrow Boys” and it cost me all of $1.99.
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It is a good thing I am retired. Between reading and the Internet, I find I have the time to do a lot of exploring.

js: Thanks for your recommendation of Middlemarch. Now I am anxious to get to it.