The American Dream: Not Doing So Well

Thanks to Obama and the Democrats remaking of America and murder of a once great capitalist economy, the American dream is all but dead. But reparations are apparently alive and well.

Right now, everything’s fine. In the future, I expect Social Security and Medicare to go bust.
 
I don’t see how an aging country can continue safety nets like that at the level of service they’re currently offering. It’s not going to be there in 30 years.
 
Unfortunately, my retirement account is run by Wall St., so my options are not great.

KT, thanks for this excellent piece. BTW, the swampclocks are off and we’re regressing in time. Can we relive our youths?
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Alas, the dream’s not good now, sorry for the downer but no sugarcoating here. Richard Nelson Bolles said jobs give us identity (“Who are you? I’m a…”) and it’s an end of an era without them. Construction is volatile and cyclical. I was raised to see life in cycles anyway so am used to this even if this is the bottom now. This story may surprise you, KT, but not me – http://charlotte.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2009/06/08/focus1.html
(yeah, that 40% unemployment; I don’t live there but it’s probably happened elsewhere)
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…however… when the cycle turns back up there will be rebuilding, literally, of both lives and property. I’m looking forward to that. I’m starting new volunteer work at an animal shelter working with cats. I’m looking forward to that too.
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But enough negative stuff. At least my dark humor is still intact, such as in yesterday’s efforts to help Amy reach 400 replies to her Beckistan post (props to Ivy for that term). KT, I hope YOUR dream is infinitely better without regrets.

…maybe we can help you get 400 replies to this excellent post too, KT? I appreciate that nearly all replies to Amy did NOT attack her personally …rusty / nfb excepted, of course.

The key to understanding the American Dream is to realize that it doesn’t mean just a continuation of “more of the same” If Charlotte NC has a glut of unemployed architects it might be because the amount of office floor space was increasing at an unsustainable rate. Likewise, in other areas, the conversion of cornfields to tightly packed residential communities, was also proceeding at a pace unsupported by actual demand. The American economy has always rewarded hard work but it has also always rewarded rapid adjustment to changing circumstances.

Our success is a result of our actions, not our identities. As such, it doesn’t come with any guarantees.

We can be thankful for President Obama. Without his leadership we would really be in a mess.

Are demographic challenges are easily answered… we create a younger work force be welcoming immigrants. Immigration has saved America from decline before and will do so again.

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…the conversion of cornfields to tightly packed residential communities, was also proceeding at a pace unsupported by actual demand.

That’s exactly what happened where I live, both in SFH’s and condos. The outer suburbs and newly developed adjacent rural areas got hit the hardest and have highest foreclosure rates. Three new condo complexes are near me; all still have high vacancies, and one is totally empty / in receivership.

It’ll never happen but what we need more than anything is a national strike. That productivity has climbed so high while wages have remained stagnant is a sickening fact that directly interferes with people’s pursuit of their own dreams and ambitions. We need a national resetting not just of priorities but of economic reward.

Is that French for redistribution of wealth?

@freeinpa: it’s English for let’s see how far they get without their workers.

Yeah I think the air traffic controllers tried that in the 80s.

Or see how others like it when they outsource whats left of the jobs. Americans love low prices from global competition but want no impact on wages

I see the greed caused by an out of control capitalist system as the main cause. Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

One way to maintain the American dream is to spend all our free time – that comes with unemployment and underemployment – making the luxury items that we can no longer afford to buy:

Do It At Home, America

(satire)

@freeinpa: As usual free we agree on the problem. And it is true… we want to buy cheap imports from big box retailers but we want rising wages at the same time. Now I can see you arguing something like “wages ain’t going up so cut taxes so at least people have more money in their pockets” but isn’t that a a game with a definite ending? You can’t cut taxes past zero, after all. So it just delays the reckoning.

And of course some wages are rising — the wages paid to those at the top. We can’t let this much of the benefit for all the productivity gains (which are achievements of American workers) wind up in the hands of so few. It’s a recipe for oligarchy which is, unfortunately, as damaging to individual liberty as an out of control government.

destor23,
 
I am not so confident that this country welcomes immigrants anymore. Being brown myself, I find that unfortunate. But I think it’s true.
 
Secondly, the work for most immigrants is back-breaking and low-paying. Low-paying because their employers don’t want to pay into Social Security or for benefits. Legalize the work, and the jobs for immigrants disappear.
 
Third, the work they do is often low-skilled. Even if the work were legalized, it would take a few of them to pay for a single retiree. At elevated wages, no one will hire enough of them. Rather, people will make do with fewer services of the kind that immigrants currently provide. As far as manufacturing jobs, we don’t build anything anymore, so that path to the middle class is closed out.
 
Immigrants have traditionally done well here because we used to have a rapidly-expanding manufacturing economy to absorb them and use them. That was because the rest of the world was either bombed-out from World Wars or wrecked from colonialism. We no longer have those advantages anymore, so I don’t see how we’ll put future unskilled labor to use.

@oizy: all you say is true. Though we do have high tech visas now and other ways of bringing more skilled workers and students into the country. We’ll have to get over our post 9/11 xenophobia first and it is a tough sell with 9.7% unemployment but in the long run immigration is what makes Europe and againg population and the US a dynamic one. I hope, anyway. Because after that I’m out of ideas.

I am puzzled by this poll which shows that African Americans are so upbeat.

Did this poll include AFRICANS who are naturalized as Americans?
I ask this because this group, I believe, is far more educated in terms of numbers (parity) than African Americans per se and generally share the average immigrant perception about the American dream. Most Africans who naturalize as Americans in general believe that the American dream is attainable.

As a woman of color, I find these polls a little difficult to believe and/or understand. How many were polled and what were their backgrounds? Wow.
Is the optimism based on the fact that we have elected a bi-racial President?
As far as I can see, even though African Americans have come a long way from Jim Crow days, I think the situation is still harder for most people of color than for the average Caucasian.

Yes, yes, yes, I know we are all open minded now and never see color.

I know that people are all one and everyone is considered on the basis of whom he or she is… and that even in court, especially criminal court, justice is meted out equally by jurors to defendants of all colors despite the incredible number of men of color who populate the jails.

The jails are teeming with men of color because the strict liability offenses keep these men in jail– and unbiased jurors who hold hands and sing Kumbayaa have no biases at all and believe in the justice system.

These jurors and judges have no preconceptions of Black men and would walk in a dark alley unfearful even if they saw two tall black teenage boys (minding their own business) walking towards them in that alley. HAHA

I know we are one progressive America and even though people still tell lettered educated women of color in the 21st century that they are well spoken.

Well spoken..hmmmm…..inspite of the extensive education of these women of color—hmmmm…..there is no bias behind those words and no expectation these women will sound “ebonicish” or have some spanish twang because OF COURSE these same comments would be made to blonde blue eyed similarly lettered women. “You speak well, you blonde blue eyed well educated woman” is a common remark as we all know. HAHA

Okay, okay enough of my sarcasm.
It is still baffling to me that African Americans are full of hope. Why is this the case. To me, some things have changed but the core issues, biases and mis perceptions and stereotyping remain the same. Infact, I think life is more difficult for so many minorities because it is so easy to hide these biases and proving them in court is a herculean task.

By having sipped quite a bit on my coffee while writing this comment, I have a new burst of energy and should end on a better note.
Maybe many African Americans and immigrants have a unique predisposition which makes them forge and expect the best despite obvious difficulty. Now that is an incredible and refreshing possibility.

LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/technology-savvy-nigerian-criminals-are-the-greatest-threat-to-national-security/

Most of the things you said about the situation facing immigrants today were also true during our great waves of immigration in the past. As I work daily with immigrants looking to get into high tech jobs, my view is a little different. Even with all that’s happened, the opportunity for educated, skilled technology workers is great here. The includes in places like the Midwest.

Of course, part of this is because people born here aren’t getting the education to take advantage of those opportunities. A lot of them have banked on areas that have been on the decline for a while (manufacturing) or were hot only for a short period of time (finance). It might have a lot to do with the pessimism.

destor23,
 
Agreed, except that my relatives ARE those high-tech workers and students you mentioned, and they don’t want to come here anymore. They’re happy in Bangalore, because the jobs come to them.
 
If you ask them how the recession’s treating them, they say, “What recession?”

This was supposed to be a reply to 2.

The American Dream is dead for the most part for middle class Americans. For those of us lucky enough to still have a job, the rising cost of everything from health care to electricity is hard enough to keep up with. Universal health care should be provided to help ease this burden.

For those people without jobs, the American Dream is even farther out of reach. A national civil service department should be created to provide a job to anyone that wants one. Corporate America and the rich should be taxed to make this happen. If more money is needed, we should pull out of all the useless wars we are currently fighting.

djtrudeau,
 
Got it. But please see my reply # 2.4. Except for some kinds of doctors or something required hands-on work, most skilled labor (i.e., “desk jobs”) are easily outsourced.

Even stuff that requires a physical presence once in a while is being outsourced. One of my in-laws gets on a plane from India to come to Manhattan as and when needed.

All I hear from Obama critics are “Obama is the worst. He’s destroying America. He’s a socialist ideologue.”
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I challenge you to produce evidence that Obama is destroying America – what has he done that is so grievously out of the ordinary and just plain wrong?

“So how’s the dream working out for you these days?”
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More than I had ever hoped for. I’m close to retiring from the only job I’ve ever had. My wife has made a full recovery from a near fatal illness. My health is holding up pretty well. I have good health insurance that carries over when I retire. We live in a nice home with a great view. My dogs are insane. I’m luckier than a person has any right to be. Two of my houses are paid for and the third is close to being paid off. I just paid cash for a new car.

On the other hand. My MIL lives with us. If there’s any older gentleman out there that wants a fat, lazy, religious fanatic with no interest in sex that thinks housework is the plague and has a phone glued to her head…I can set you up.

So how’s the dream working out for you these days?

For me personally? Well enough at the moment. A job loss or major illness would smash it all to h3ll, ‘tho.

Looking at one aspect of the bigger picture (and no, after one year in office, it’s not Obama’s fault, only his problem to solve):

- The US has increased its level of income inequality, comparable now to Turkey or Mexico.

– The wealthiest 25% of US households owned 87% The middle 50% of the country held 13%. (2004)

– Manufacturing and service offshoring is hollowing out the middle class and creates what amounts to a ‘phantom’ GDP where businesses can still maintain profitability with out actually making anything domestically.

– Unemployment is at its highest rate since post-Great Depression.

– The number of Americans living in poverty is at its highest rate in the past four decades.

I think they specifically asked if life was better for you than for *your parents*, @lawyermommy. In that case, for all the reasons you mention, life for them *is* better. Whether it’s better than for all the cauc families wasn’t the question.
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I am inspired by many of my “friends of color” who have every bit of the hunger that my friends of ex-Soviet eastern European descent have. They all have a lot more hunger than most Americans. The CEOspace conventions I go to every two months have so many amazing African-American entrepreneurs and they far outweigh their numeric percentage and they’re all bubbling with ideas and enthusiasm.
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America is the land of opportunity for all of them because they’re _making_ it so. While some who post here are whining about ‘where are the jobs’ and ‘where is my entitlement’ and ‘where is my reparation’, these folks are out there making new things happen.
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They’re all too busy making their future happen. Most of them have no time for all that goes on in DC, and that’s the point. Life can be better but we all have to get off it and get to work.

There was a book I read, can’t remember the title (Rise and Fall of Empires or something like that) that specifically looked at World Powers over the last 500 years. While there were various factors to the fall of many empires, one thing it noted was how two common features of the decline of these Empires were (1) military budgets that they couldn’t afford but still grew to try and cling to their authority and (2) notable deficits. No nation can sit at the top forever and eventually one will overtake the last, but the most noticeable evidence of the decline of a power is its need to hide from its decline by becoming too authoritarian. When I look at the insane military budget and the wars of Iraq and even Afghanistan (could any other country with possible exception of China have actually done the Afghan campaign), I feel the US has plateaued and there is no going back from that.
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In the middle of the 20th century, the US held over 50% of the global economy. Today, that number isn’t even close. This is no fault of any American administration, the rest of the world just got its chance to catch up. America will never return to that state and quite frankly it can’t. It doesn’t have half of the world’s population, it has 5%. Decline was inevitable.

So true, @dj. It is sad that the most important thing that happens in government schools (and most others, sad to say) is that students are conditioned to sit still, shut up, and wait to be told what to do. This authoritarian behavioral conditioning is so pervasive and so much a part of “the way school is” that even those who get to the classrooms get more of this ABC than the truly important ABC’s.
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http://www.convinceproject.com/about-us/donald-wilde/passion-for-education
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The dream is still ours to grab, but we have to set aside preconceptions about “what should be” and create new visions for today’s needs. There are lots of needs… so there are lots of opportunities.

“Manufacturing and service offshoring is hollowing out the middle class and creates what amounts to a ‘phantom’ GDP where businesses can still maintain profitability with out actually making anything domestically.”
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So true. As an engineer trying to survive in the evaporating manufacturing base I can attest to the fact that no US recovery will ever be less than the beginning of the next artificially hyped economic bubble without the ‘ol engineering, machinist, assembler, and support jobs that used to hold the middle class strongly together.
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Now in the modern US economy you can be an entrepreneur with somebody else’s money or you can flip burgers. There’ nothing else to depend on. Maybe when the Chinese make 40K a year on average parity will return, but I’ll be under the ground (or greeting at WalMart) by the time that happens.

My first house was an old 2 bedroom built at the end of WWII, my wife has for all pratical pur[poses has never worked. My second house is the house I still live in, a paid for 3 bedroom 1600 sqft. Raised 6 kids in it. I’ll work untill I am 70, if I am able. Do I have erverything I want? No.
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Sometimes I wonder if our expectations exceed what we reasonably should expect.

Substitute ‘have to be’ for ‘can be’, @centfan. If only our schools taught a little more about business sense and Darwinian economics…
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I am blessed by the fact that I have an explosively fast PC (manufactured in China with firmware from India and software from the global open source market) that I paid less than $2G for. I’m working in a field where I need no entrepreneurial capital (Android smart-phone software) in order to make products and services happen.
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Could be lots worse. And, yes, I have many friends who are not so lucky to be in software but I think about how much better our living conditions are here compared to Ukraine or Calcutta or most of China… could be lots worse.

I don’t think people’s expectations are too high. Most Americans could have a betetr standard of living and more security for less work than they do now. We just never talk about fairness in a serious way.

That’s a slippery slope, @destor23, especially if “fairness” is expected to be enforced by the predatory power of a government. Your view of “fair” is much different than mine, I expect, and both of ours are different from someone else’s. Fair to me is the original American Dream… the opportunity to pursue happiness without being dragged down by someone else’s bad choices.
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I have worked my way back out of homelessness twice in my life, so you might say that I can appreciate how low a state of mind can go. I have learned that it is truly ‘all in our minds’, and until we get that straight all the “help” in the world won’t help.
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Unfair to me is how the damn Dems and Republicans divide us up between them… and take half our resources to fritter away on their own re-election.
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Yes, we could have a better cotton-lined cocoon if we would just give up this idea of self-responsibility… but Benjamin Franklin said it more wisely than I could ever:

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Dwilde,
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“New Immigrants, African-Americans and Latinos More Optimistic About Dream. African-Americans, Latinos and 1st or 2nd generation immigrants view the Dream more positively on nearly every measure than do white Americans. Put differently, the part of society that is still by and large worse off in terms of social or economic measurements is also the same group that is most positive about the American Dream.”

My comments addressed the optimism among African Americans and drew a comparison between them and the white Americans–as referenced in part in the excerpt above from the original piece.
I responded to the article as I deemed fit and my opinions and perspectives as shared in my comments are clearly and succinctly articulated.

Diwilde, you said in your response to me
“Whether it’s better than for all the cauc families wasn’t the question”… ahaaaa… but it is part of the article and I elected to respond to it.

“African-Americans Were Only Group In Poll That Think Dream Is Getting Easier To Achieve. African-Americans are, in fact, the only key demographic group in our sample where a majority believes that reaching the Dream is easier now than it was for their parents, and over forty percent believe it will be easier for their children to reach than it has been for themselves.”

Diwilde, even if your view is that things are better or will be better for their children, I questioned the foundational basis for this optimism because many in this group have not themselves attained the “dream”.

“….Put differently, the part of society that is still by and large worse off in terms of social or economic measurements…”

However, as I indicated in my earlier comment, their optimism might be a reflection of the indomitable spirit of some of these minority groups and new immigrants. I believe that quality is fabulous!

LM
http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/technology-savvy-nigerian-criminals-are-the-greatest-threat-to-national-security/

I totally agree, @lm. I think crisis does forge the best in us, and part of why (many) African-Americans are so indomitable is because they have very recent racial history that it can be MUCH worse. Likewise, many of my immigrant friends from Eastern Europe have parents and grandparents that were savaged by Stalin… this also affected the “Silent Generation” who were little babies during the depression and who busted their butts to create a better world for us.
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We are in another Crisis period, as forecast by Strauss and Howe (http://www.fourthturning.com), and right now another group of young people is growing up with long-faced adults.
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The fact that “crisis brings out the best in us” never makes it easy.

allthings, first I say good for you. Second, thanks for expressing a thought I had reading all of the comments until now. That being, what exactly is the American Dream? Everybody here seems to accept some nebulous, elusive definition, and I say it does not exist.
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The expectations of the great depression/WW2 generation were not near as high as is common now. You can still see their idea of home happiness in 900 sf homes with no central climate control,1 bath and a carport. With the rise of a large wealthy class over time, and increased income disparity, the expectations have proportionately risen. But still, to a person out of work, or one with no food, a job and food represents the dream.
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The problem with all of this is the lack of a consensus on what exactly that dream is. The definition obviously varies wildly, and is manifested in the current HC debate. Dream on.

Dwilde,

Aaaah, so true no one wants crisis especially in a country (this writer included)–
On a side note however , personal challenges are things that bring out the true and real measure of a person!

Without challenges, most times you cannot see and measure the true worth, strength and ability of a human. Human beings show their true mettle when faced with life in all its glory.

An indomitable, strong, directed and focused spirit with the accompanying strength it engenders is truly an incredible quality and should be admired and aspired to… by all. That is the only way life should be lived.

I admire the African American spirit in the face of the historically documented challenges and their triumphs over these matters.

LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/technology-savvy-nigerian-criminals-are-the-greatest-threat-to-national-security/

Some have accused me of being a callous social Darwinist because I refuse to accept that government should “help” people. It is for precisely this purpose that I believe what I believe, that crisis forces us to rediscover the power of community, and family, and friends… and that deeper source of our own greatness.

Formerly,

Yes Families are getting smaller, but we are moving from the 900 sqft house to the 3,000 sqft house. For what? A bigger Elect. Bill?
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On the other hand my house cost 5 times more today then it it did 30 years ago, but wages have not kept up. The confluence of larger expectations and, smaller wages and, higher costs create a certain tension to be sure, but I have control over my expectations and can still elect to be happy with what I need, if not with everything I want.

allthings, I hear you and I am much like you. I am living my American Dream beyond even my expectations, which were realistic and reasonable to begin with.

“Is that French for redistribution of wealth?”
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Yes, to the people who actually do the work. Thanks to 30 years of “conservative” dogma, I’m sure that sounds like a foreign language to far too many Americans.

I also congratulate “allthings” on a great post. We sometimes fulfill dreams more by accepting what material things we have, rather than always demanding more. We can work hard to be free from debt, not have a huge house.

I would also ask– Why can’t we also have lofty dreams–perhaps updated quasi– Martin Luther King dreams? Can we conceive of an American dream that sees masses of Americans working for an end to the forced sexual slavery of young girls? Might we dream of a society that seeks to have no one denied health insurance for pre-existing conditions?

Perhaps the American dream can be that of a more community-minded nation. When we work for the dreams of the whole community, we enhance our own dreams as well.

There are situations which of necessity warrant the intervention of government.

These are circumstances in which people have to be helped— such as in the extension of unemployment benefits because of mass unemployment and the other economic difficulties etc. etc.

Also, for crimes and criminals, the government has to intervene to investigate and prosecute such vile felons and low life vagabonds.
Although I do not support the death penalty, it is the law in some states and in those instances, the law has to be enforced by government and not a militia.

So in accordance with the law of the land, I believe that government has a key role to play in public life however I do believe in the power of the individual to deal with circumstances in their lives.

You have to live life, and living a whole life of necessity entails dealing with ALL aspects, including the nice and not so nice.

Life is not for the faint of heart but it is indeed a wonderful adventure and in the lives of some, it is truly a study in greatness, honesty, perseverance, strength all amounting to evidence of the true meaning of the indomitable the human spirit (which only some possess).

*Hey, I do not think I have any typos in this post. I have done my one glance and now I click “submit”

LM
http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/technology-savvy-nigerian-criminals-are-the-greatest-threat-to-national-security/

The Social Security Scam

I have been trying to expose the Social Security scam for more than a decade, but nobody would listen. I appeared on CNN Today, with anchor Lou Waters, on September 27, 2000 to discuss my then newly published book, “The Alleged Budget Surplus, Social Security, and Voodoo Economics.” I tried to convince Waters that the government was spending Social Security money on other government programs. He just looked at me in disbelief and asked, “Are you a voice crying in the wilderness?” As it turned out I was a voice crying in the wilderness in 2000, and I have continued to be such a voice ever since. During that ten-year period, I have published four books on Social Security, the latest being “THE BIG LIE: How Our Government Hoodwinked the Public, Emptied the Social Security Trust Fund, and caused The Great Economic Collapse.” In addition, I have appeared on The Dolans (CNNfn), on CNBC, and on more than 170 radio talk shows in my crusade to expose the scam. I made extensive efforts in 2000 to persuade Al Gore to break ranks with Bill Clinton and pledge to end the raiding of the trust fund.

I have been outraged ever since I stumbled onto the scam more than ten years ago, and I have wanted to tell the whole world so everybody would be outraged. The fact that our government has “borrowed,” “embezzled,” or “stolen” $2.5 trillion of workers’ contributions to Social Security has to be “the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people by their government.” Like Harry Markopolis, who unsuccessfully tried to expose Bernie Madoff for nine years, I have been trying to expose the Social Security scam for more than a decade, but nobody would believe me. I urge everyone who cares about the future of Social Security to visit my website at http://www.thebiglie.net and learn the rest of the story.

Allen W. Smith, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics Emeritus
Eastern Illinois University

I would suggest that the Politicians figure out a way to put the money they have been stealing from SS over the years back and quick.. things don’t look good for them if they don’t.. people paying into the system for 20-30-40 years will be demanding their money that was FORCEFULLY taken from their check.. don’t forget it was matched in full by the employers.. Baby boomers have paid MORE into SS than any generation and they won’t take kindly to excuses..
A younger demographic of immigrants is NOT the answer, Please read history.. when the immigrants of yesteryear came here THERE WERE JOBS.. we had an INDUSTRIAL base which the Politicians have outsourced to China, India, etc.. there are not even jobs for AMERICAN CITIZENS so try again.. how many people do we need to shuffle papers? oh ya those jobs are outsourced too,, how many fast food places? some on even the so called green jobs are having the solar panels made in CHINA.. If we don’t get someone with some brains in the W.H. real quick we are going to look like Greece and France.. While Obama didn’t create this is exacerbated it with not having his priorities straight as well as the congress and senate..

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