Re: Bending the Rules

I’m convinced there are no new arguments in Washington; the only thing that changes is the side that is making them.

As House Democratic leaders consider their options for passing the health care bill, there is going to be a lot of talk about the use of the “self-executing rule” — or, as Republicans are taking to calling it, because it sounds scary, the “Slaughter Solution.” I’ve been poking around a bit on the history of this. You may not be surprised to learn that this is something that House members tend to complain about when they are in the minority–and use at will when they are in the majority.

To wit, here’s what Majority Leader Steny Hoyer had to say about it back in 2003. The difference between now and then, of course, was that he was in the minority:

Not content with the denying the Minority to offer amendments and substitutes, the Majority has even refused to permit Democrats the chance to vote on the Majority’s own bills. That is precisely what happened on June 12. This being the 23rd, that was 13 days ago. When the Republican leadership reported a self-executing rule providing for the adoption of the $82 billion plan over 10 years and an almost trillion-dollar plan over 20 years, accelerating the increased child tax credit for low-income people families, we didn’t even get an opportunity to vote on the bill itself except by reference in a self-executing rule. What kind of lack of confidence does that display? What kind of process in pursuit of effectiveness does that mean that we are adopting? What kind of demeaning of democracy is the objective of efficiency resulting in? I would remiss to fail to note that barely 1 hour later, the House passed on a bipartisan vote — you talk about bipartisan votes — a nonbinding motion to instruct the conferees to accept the substantially more responsible Senate version of that bill, doing exactly the opposite of what a half an hour the House had voted on. Why? Because it had no full debate, and it was very ambivalent, and we knew the House was ambivalent, and you knew the House was ambivalent, and you were afraid, fearful that 12 or 15 Republicans, if allowed to vote on the substance as opposed to voting procedurally on a rule where party loyalty is so important, you were afraid to put the substance to the test of democracy, fearful that you would lose 12 to 15, and we would prevail in our position. House Democrats, of course, are trying to offer the same Senate bill as the substitute, but the Republican Majority blocked us from doing so.

Mr. Chairman, clearly we can do better, and we owe the American people, this institution and ourselves. In these discussions on legislative process, I have always been forthright. When Democrats controlled the House, we did not always provide for fair debates. Mr. Dreier, you were absolutely correct. We should neither excuse those past practices nor count their occurrences. No one expects every rule to be open, but we do expect that the opportunity to debate legislation be the norm, not the exception.

UPDATE: And how often did Republicans employ self-executing rules? In that same hearing, Martin Frost, then a Democratic Congressman, tells us:

For instance, thus far this year, the Rules Committee has reported 47 rules. In only four of those were rules were fully open. Quite frankly, those rules were for bills that might just as well have been considered under suspension of the rules since they were noncontroversial and passed by near unanimous margins. Among the remaining rules, 10 have been completely closed, 5 were conference report rules, and 23 restrictive rules, severely limiting the offering of amendments brought to the Rules Committee by Democratic Members. Three rules made entirely new text in order as a base bill. Eleven rules contained self-executing provisions. And while the record of the committee has improved, 17 rules were reported after 8 p.m., and three of those were rules that were reported after 6:30 a.m. on the following day, just a few short hours before the House went into session to vote on them.

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  • trifecta55

    Up or down vote! Up or down vote! Anybody remember that one from the GOP congress?

  • shepherdwong

    Ugh. I made the mistake of clicking through the “Slaughter Solution”/Suderman link:

    It’s also tough to see what advantages Democrats actually stand to gain from going this route. I understand that they want to avoid being seen as voting for health reform.

    .
    Yeah, that probably explains why they’ve spent the past year beating their brains out voting for health reform. Obviously, they want to avoid being seen as voting for certain provisions of the Senate bill, that’s what they stand to gain from going this route. Unbelievable.

  • gysgt213

    KT-You certainly are not suggesting we have a bunch of hypocritical weasles in our Congress? We have the best Congress in the world young lady and its unamerican of you to suggest otherwise. Despite whatever little research you come up with to prove it. Time and time again.

  • http://teacherreaderwriter.wordpress.com/ Shakespeare in GA

    Yesiree, gunny! Also.

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    To quote my all-time favorite fictional politician, Francis Urquhart: “You might very well think that; I couldn’t possibly comment.”

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    actually, i think they want to avoid having some of the provisions of the senate bill, such as the cornhusker kickback, hung around their necks. after all, they didn’t write them in.
    .
    everyone is going to know (and, in the case of the media, write) that the vote on the rule is the key one for passing the health care bill.

  • afguy

    C’mon, gunny… say it!
    .
    “We have the best Congress money can buy!”

  • gysgt213

    The Twilight of the Elites
    .
    Chris Hayes
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    “In the past decade, nearly every pillar institution in American society — whether it’s General Motors, Congress, Wall Street, Major League Baseball, the Catholic Church or the mainstream media — has revealed itself to be corrupt, incompetent or both. And at the root of these failures are the people who run these institutions, the bright and industrious minds who occupy the commanding heights of our meritocratic order. In exchange for their power, status and remuneration, they are supposed to make sure everything operates smoothly. But after a cascade of scandals and catastrophes, that implicit social contract lies in ruins, replaced by mass skepticism, contempt and disillusionment…”
    ,
    http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1971133_1971110_1971117,00.html

  • gysgt213

    More.

    “For more than 35 years, Gallup has polled Americans about levels of trust in their institutions — Congress, banks, Big Business, public schools, etc. In 2008 nearly every single institution was at an all-time low. Banks were trusted by just 32% of the populace, down from more than 50% in 2004. Newspapers were down to 24%, from slightly below 40% at the start of the decade. And Congress was the least trusted institution of all, with only 12% of Americans expressing confidence in it. The mistrust of élites extends to élites themselves. Every year, public-relations guru Richard Edelman conducts a “trust barometer” across 22 countries, in which he surveys only highly educated, high-earning, media-attentive people. In the U.S., these people show extremely low levels of trust in government and business alike. Particularly distrusted are the superman CEOs of yore. “Chief-executive trust has just been mired in the mid- to low 20s,” says Edelman. “It started off with Enron and culminates in Citi.”
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    http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1971133_1971110_1971117,00.html

  • afguy

    Anyone consider that the reason corporate CEO and government confidence had declined at much the same time is because we’ve been re-cycling the same incompetent, corrupt “bozos” between business and the government (and back again).
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    Wonder what would have happened if we had used good quality, ethically sound CEOs for the jobs instead of the well-connected, crooked hacks that have been caught in the revolving door?

  • kevin

    Can we track that decline in our trust against the rise in their pay?
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    http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/CEOpaymultiple.tif

  • destor23

    While it’s certainly true that both sides have used the same arguments in favor of opposing ends, it’s also true that that am honest press would report that one side generates better results. So… how about it? The data is clear.

  • hicontext

    “Self-executing” = self-incriminating = self-serving

  • hicontext

    Examples?

  • hicontext

    Names?

  • shepherdwong

    Good stuff, gunny. Billionaire ex-CEO Meg Whitman’s first ad for her (self-financed) campaign for the California governorship starts out, “I will say the number one thing, I think, that faces California right now is actually a crisis of confidence.” Do you suppose she doesn’t realize that the crisis in confidence is all about people just like her?

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