When A Hard Vote Ends A Political Career

As the House prepares for its final push on health care, there are Democratic members, particularly those from conservative districts, who are facing a hard truth: This is the kind of vote that can end a career.

I’ve found myself thinking a lot lately about one of the most extraordinary spectacles I have ever witnessed in the House Chamber. It was the night of August 5, 1993, and Bill Clinton was one vote short of what he needed to get his economic plan through the House–a vote he got, when freshman Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky switched hers. The other side of the Chamber seemed to explode. Republicans pulled out their hankies and started waving them at her, chanting: “Bye-bye, Margie.”

Margolies-Mezvinsky learned the hard way that they were right. Her Main Line Philadelphia district was the most Republican-leaning of any represented by a Democrat in Congress. She had sealed her fate:

During her campaign, she had promised not to raise taxes, and the budget proposed a hike in federal taxes, including a gasoline tax. On the day of the vote, she appeared on television and told her constituents that she was against the budget. Minutes before the vote, however, on August 5, 1993, President Clinton called to ask Margolies-Mezvinsky to support the measure. She told him that only if it was the deciding vote—in this case, the 218th yea—would she support the measure. “I wasn’t going to do it at 217. I wasn’t going to do it at 219. Only at 218, or I was voting against it,” she recalled.11 She also extracted a promise from Clinton that if she did have to vote for the budget package, that he would attend a conference in her district dedicated to reducing the budget deficit. He agreed (and later fulfilled the pledge). Nevertheless, Margolies-Mezvinsky told Clinton “I think I’m falling on a political sword on this one.”

This week, I caught up with Margolies, who has since founded Women’s Campaign International, an organization that develops female leaders in emerging democracies and post-conflict regions, and who teaches at the University of Pennsylvania. (She also, by the way, is Chelsea Clinton’s future mother-in-law). Margolies, too, is struck by the parallels she sees between the agonizing choice that she faced back then and what lies ahead for some House Democrats:

“I never thought they would come to me,” she recalls. “It’s tough. It’s very tough. It’s not an easy thing to get to Congress.” By the next election, she says, one-third of the women who had come to the House in the Class of 1992 were gone–largely as the result of that one vote.

Margolies insists that she did the right thing. What was wrong was with politics itself, she says. The bill was at least 80% grounded in Republican-backed ideas, and had been endorsed by Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan. The fighting over that last 20% was “heartbreakingly partisan to me, and I’m very much a centrist,” she recalls. “It just infuriated me.”

She thinks it has only gotten worse since she left Congress. “What has happened is the minority has taken over,” Margolies insisted. “Democrats don’t frame as well as Republicans do. [And for Democrats,] this is the vote that is going to get a tremendous amount of play in their districts.”

Margolies thought that she could make her constituents understand why she had made the choice she did. But she underestimated the power of the sound bite. “I was really good at the four-minute explanation when I went back back to the district,” she says. “But it’s the Frank Luntz 30 seconds that kills you.” She notes ruefully that her name has become shorthand in Washington for committing political suicide. “I was a terrible politician. It was a drive-by,” she says. “I never thought I’d become a verb.”

Over the next few weeks, it will worth keeping an eye on Democrats from conservative districts with that in mind. This will be one of those rare votes that confronts them with a choice between political survival, or leaving a legacy when they are gone.

Related Topics: clinton budget, clinton economic plan, marjorie margolies, marjorie margolies-mezvinsky, Congress, Economy
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  • spob

    Of course, the legacy could be a crappy one. The American people don’t support this bill. And yet the Dems want to ram it down our throats.

  • nflfoghorn

    And because of 3M’s (I’m guessing now, 2M) sacrifice we suffered eight years of economic growth, not to mention that the deficit turned into a surplus. Dang! Neither Mr. nor Ms. Smith would touch modern-day Washington with a 30-foot pole.

  • pafro

    A lot of them already voted for it. Take my own right-leaning dem, Ann Kirkpatrick.

    If Kirkpatrick announces she is not going to vote for the health care bill, do you think Republicans are going to give her credit for it? Hell no. They are going to run commercials about how she voted for the House version.

    Democrats already own the downside risk of this bill, and it needs to pass for them to get the upside benefits like being able to say they outlawed denials based on pre-existing condition and recission.

    I would like to know what the vote total in Margolies-Mezvinsky’s un-election were. Was it 10%? 5%? Maybe she was gone no matter what. The simple fact of the matter is that many Democrats in R-leaning districts aren’t coming back no matter what they do. It is the cyclical nature of the business.

  • allthingsinaname

    I do not vote for them because I am concerned about their career. One two year term and they are set for life. Seems to pay they are paid very well to do their job.

  • kevin

    You’re absolutely right, spob, if by “Americans don’t want this” you mean “Americans are evenly divided on this, but overwhelmingly favor the individual parts of HCR,” and if by “ram it down our throats” you mean “pass by majorities in both Houses of Congress.”
    .
    http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls/posr022310nr.cfm
    .

    The latest Kaiser Tracking Poll finds the public still split on health care reform legislation, with 43 percent in favor and 43 percent opposed. However, the poll also finds that majorities of Americans of all political leanings support several provisions in the health reform proposals in Congress and most attribute delays in passing the legislation to political gamesmanship rather than policy disagreements.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Ahem. There are more Republicans facing a hard truth. This is popular legislation. The 30 second message on health care reform is “Congressman Blowhard votes are for the insurance companies and the drug companies, and not for you.”

  • bmccool

    spob,
    “The American people don’t suppor this bill” as it has been slimed and demagogued. But if asked about specific provisions of the bill–and provisions not included, such as the public option–a majority support it.

    “This is the kind of vote that can end a career” Well guess what, a career in Washington was not the intent of the founders. It sounds like she is doing just fine outside of Washington.

  • square1

    “I was really good at the four-minute explanation when I went back back to the district,” she says. “But it’s the Frank Luntz 30 seconds that kills you.”

    We can all agree that Democrats are terrible at the :30 (or :05) sound bite. Where I disagree is that they are any good at the 4-minute explanation. In my experience, you could give most Democratic politicians a lifetime and they will rarely be able to articulate anything coherent to the average person.

  • destor23

    Her reasoning now seems pretty odd though and I don’t mean to take away from the difficulty of her position then but… it sounds like she did indeed support the bill but would only vote for it if she was the deciding vote. That’s not exactly a “Profile In Courage.”

    I’m not sure where I come down on this really. I don’t think in general that its great for representatives to outright defy the people they represent and when they do, if they can’t convince their constituents that it was in their best interests well, that’s what elections are for.

    But what she really wanted was… well… an easy way out. She wanted other people to pass the bill for her.

  • FlownOver

    Anyone who places career preservation over health care deserves neither.

  • square1

    You are exactly right. Had she been for the bill the entire time, laid the rhetorical groundwork for her position, and been prepared to argue for its merits to her constituents, then it would be a lot harder to use it as a weapon. Its hard to say you are sticking to your principles when you were planning to vote the other way.
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    Once again, finger-in-the-air, no-faith-in-your-constituents “centrism” is exposed as a electorally weak approach.

  • deconstructiva

    Thanks, KT. You’re trying to make us ponder, yes? Instead of blindly repeat talking points and sound bites? Nobody does that in Congress, right? But AFAIAC, do the right thing and take your chances. ’nuff said. I wonder if viewing elected office aiming for longevity instead of aiming to serving constituents through good judgment is a big cause of today’s mess.
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    …and btw, KT, here are two underplayed stories for you:
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  • Ivy_B

    My, my. I had not thought of this for a very long time. MMM has a very interesting biography. She just beat Jon Fox for that seat which had been held by the same Republican for 12 terms prior to this election.

    In 1992, he ran unsuccessfully for Congress against Democrat Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky, losing by less than 1,400 votes.[4] However, Fox sought a rematch in 1994 and with Mezvinsky saddled with a vote for a tax increase, Fox became part of the 1994 Republican Revolution.[5] [He won by 49% of vote to her 45%]

    Fox was re-elected once, in 1996, over Democrat Joe Hoeffel. His margin of victory was a mere 84 votes out of nearly 250,000 cast.[6] In 1998, three Republicans, Michael McGonagle, Melissa Brown and Jonathan Newman challenged him in the GOP primary. Fox staved off the internal challenge but now faced Hoeffel in a rematch for the general election.[7] Fox also faced a backlash after the impeachment of President Clinton; the 13th, once a Republican stronghold, had become increasingly friendly to Democrats in the 1990s. In November, Fox was unable to overcome the challenges his campaign faced, losing 51.6%-46.6%.[8]

    from Wikipedia

    Now that district is part of the majority Democratic Montgomery County and I think she would have no trouble. I read in one article that it was the odious Robert Walker who stood waving his handkerchief at her. He was almost worth moving in order to be able to vote against him.

  • stuartzechman

    KT:
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    Perhaps Margolies might contemplate the fact that centrist Democrats like herself –who depend largely on the national party’s political consultant regime to get elected– “don’t frame as well as Republicans do“, not all Democrats.
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    Is it possible that perpetually limiting voters’ choices in purple districts to one between Republican and Republican-lite maintains the strategic problem of empowering the Luntz’s of the country to frame the debate over anything in conservative terms?
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    When these kind of Democrats run in their districts, aren’t they effectively running against the entire Democratic agenda –unless they can somehow change the entire Democratic agenda so that it’s more reflective of them (or get appointed Chief of Staff to the White House)?
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    Doesn’t this amount to the national party spending money on races that amount to both candidates, Republican and Democratic, running against the national party and the values held by its electoral base?
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    Aren’t centrists like Margolies really the problem? (link to NPR Morning Edition: July 2, 2003)

    BOB EDWARDS, host: You say you represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic party. Explain that.
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    Former Vermont Gov. HOWARD DEAN: That was really a phrase that was first developed by Paul Wellstone, and although Paul Wellstone’s probably a little more liberal than I, his characteristic, which I enormously admire, was that he’s willing to stand up for what he believes in. I think there are so many people in our party that aren’t. When I go around talking to Democratic audiences, one of the lines that gets an enormous round of applause is that there are almost as many Democrats that I talk to that are angry at the Democrat Party as they are angry at the Republican Party.
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    EDWARDS: Well they wouldn’t be Democrats otherwise, would they?
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    DEAN: Well, that’s true. But people just don’t feel like the Democrats have stood up against this president who’s got really what amounts to, essentially, a radical agenda.
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    EDWARDS: The Democratic wing of the Democratic Party, would that be the wing that loses national elections?
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    DEAN: It’s the wing that wins national elections because they restore principle to the party, and without principle we’re never going to beat this president.

    There is a fundamental difference in the view of people like Rahm Emanuel, who will endlessly field candidates just like Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky in the hopes that purple district voters will be confused enough not to know which candidate is the Republican to vote for, and the view of someone like Dean –or someone to the left of Dean– who believe that the Democratic party can only be a credible alternative if it offers a credible alternative for voters to choose.
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    Accepting the frame that Democratic candidates in purple districts mustn’t challenge conservative ideology is actually one of the great legacies of the work of Frank Luntz. It forces the national Democratic party as a whole to be as representative of its voters as Margolies would be, thus creating the conflict and division –weakness— of which Dean eloquently speaks.
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    If the Democratic party doesn’t proactively differentiate itself in strong, principled terms from the Republicans, and promotes the Third Way ideology of compromise, “pragmatism” and policy solutions “everyone can agree on,” then they will forever be the alternative that voters turn to only after big-government Republicanism fails. If Democrats aren’t willing to differentiate themselves in the strongest possible terms, then the rightist media campaign will –and we’ll have policy derived from the politics of politicians like Margolies’ attempts to distance themselves from “Marxists” like Obama and his death-panel legislation.
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    Just to be clear, Margolies herself is merely an instance of the political ideology that should be “shorthand in Washington for committing political suicide,” if it weren’t so forcefully promulgated by Beltway insiders, Broderist ideologues and the perpetual consultant class exemplified by Bob Shrum.
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    I should say: Aren’t centrists like Rahm really the problem?

  • charlieromeobravo

    “The American people don’t support this bill” and it’s being “rammed down our throats”?
    .
    Please. If the Republicans in Congress say it often enough and loud enough people might start to believe that but that message isn’t taking hold yet. It worked for a while with death panels, cutting Medicare benefits, and socialized medicine. I think the public is getting wise to that little game.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    It’s absolutely true that the knee-jerk mushiness of Democratic “centrists” helps create a climate where they’re forever on the defensive. Doing the right thing would be a hell of a lot easier if you didn’t make everyone think you’re ashamed of doing the right thing.
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    She did do the right thing in the end, though, as history proved, and she deserves some praise for that.
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    It’s worth nothing, though, that she isn’t exactly living in subsidized housing and surviving on peanut butter and tuna fish. “Ending a political career” is enough to make her haz a sad, for sure, but let’s get a hold of ourselves here. She’s still extremely successful, still able to impact public debate and policy, still able to have her offspring marry into royalty.
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    Political suicide isn’t suicide.

  • newfreedomblog

    I am happy to see that Ms Tumulty even sees the difficulty in passing this bill, especially for those Democrat candidates in very vulnerable Republican majority districts.
    .
    Here is a list of their names. If you want to “Kill the Bill”, select a few names off this list to call or fax. Let them know 76% of ALL Americans believe that this is a bad bill, and should not be passed.
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    These are the vulnerable Democrats in Congress. Call them to “Kill the Bill” on healthcare reform.
    Mitchell 202-225-2190, Fax 202-225-3263,
    Giffords 202-225-2542, fax 202-2250378,
    Grayson 202-225-2176, Fax 202-225-0999,
    Schauer 202-225-6276, Fax 202-225-6271,
    Porter, 202-225-5456, Fax 202-225-5822,
    Arcuri 202-225-3665, Fax 202-225-1891,
    Kilroy, 202-225-2015, Fax 202-225-3529,
    Dahlkemper 202-225-5406, fax 202-225-3103,
    Carney, 202-225-3731, fax 202-225-9594,
    Perriello, 202-225-4711, Fax 202-225-5681,
    Kirkpatrick, 202-225-2315, fax 202-226-9739,
    Hill 202-225-5315, fax 202-226-6866,
    Titus 202-225-3252, fax 202-225-2185
    Hall, 202-225-5441, f202-225-3289,
    Diehaus, 202-225-2216, f202-225-3012,
    Kanjorsky, 202-225-6511, f202-225-0764,
    Maffei 202-225-3701, f202-225-4042,
    Mollohan 202-225-4172, f202-225-7564,
    Rahall 202-225-3452, f202-225-9061,
    Kagen 202-225-5655, f202-225-5729,
    Berry 202-225-4076 f202-225-5602,
    Spratt, 202-225-5501, f202-225-0464,
    Space, 202-225-6265, f202-225-3394
    Cao 202-225-6636, f202-225-1988
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    Those in less vulnerable districts but voted no in the previous bill;
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    Ellsworth 202-225-4636, f 202-225-3284
    Kaptur 202-225-4146, f 202-225-7711
    Lipinski 202-225-570, f 202-225-1012
    Stupak 202-225-4735, f 202-225-4744
    Oberstar 202-225-621, f 202-225-0699
    Kildee 202-225-3611, f 202-225-6393
    Ortiz 202-225-7742, f 202-226-1134
    .
    Call or Fax them. “Kill the Bill”.
    .
    Hear the truth at: http://www.newfreedomblog.com

  • stuartzechman

    Also, be sure to mention to the Congresspersons’ staff that you’re opposed to death-panels.

  • deconstructiva

    I thanked rusty at his first post of this list – my rep is on it – so I know who to call to say Pass the Bill Already™. Imagine rusty actually helping us out, who would’ve thought, right?

  • lcky9

    What a weak comparison see NO ONE cares what the DEMOCRATS or REPUBLICANS want.. this is the PEOPLE telling their employees what to do.. If you go to work and get an order from your boss are YOU allowed to ignore it and listen to what your co-workers say instead and it costs the company a lot of money which they will be paying off for the next 50-60 years do you not get FIRED? It does NOT make any difference if your boss is right or wrong.. he/she is the boss, pays your wages, perks, benefits and pension..If you don’t listen and get fired it is GOOD for the PEOPLE(boss)..to be rid of someone who can not follow orders.. Our Politicians THINK they are voted in to LEAD.. People are NOT sheep we don’t need a leader we need to be REPRESENTED..and LISTENED to.. not to cave to party Politics.

  • nflfoghorn

    Horrors! Serving in Congress was never meant to be a career???

  • nflfoghorn

    I endorse kissing versus killing…but you probably wouldn’t like the kissing spot.

  • deconstructiva

    KT, this is OT for now, but what your thoughts about Perry’s primary win (Rick, not Katy)? Will you post here today or write a home page / dead-tree analysis?

  • kevin

    Also, be sure to tell Joseph Cao that he’s a Democrat. He’ll be stunned by the news.

  • kevin

    Let them know 76% of ALL Americans believe that this is a bad bill, and should not be passed.
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    Why stop there? As long as you’re making stuff up, let them know that 300% of ALL Americans believe that this is a bad bill, crafted by the Trilateral Commission to sap our precious bodily fluids.

  • kbanginmotown

    A letter to the editor in our local rag yesterday used the term “ram it down our throats”. Must be the GOP talking point du jour.

  • stuartzechman

    “Up-or-down vote”

  • Ivy_B

    Stuart, I understand what you are saying about centrist Dems, but there has to be some sense of representing your district as well. PA – 13 was represented by a Republican since 1953 until MMM won in 1993. When I moved here in 1963, there was no point in registering to vote as anything other than Republican because you would never have any say in local elections. These are the Philadelphia suburbs that have played decisive roles in PA elections and when four of the five counties went from majority Repub to majority Dem, it was (and is) a very big deal.
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    I’m not sure MMM would have been re-elected even without that vote, but after two years from her successor – the district has been represented by a Democrat since 1999. If you read what I wrote above, she won by a very small margin a district that had been represented by the same Republican from 1969 to 1993. I don’t think she would have been elected at all had she not been fairly centrist.
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    At some point people have to represent those who elect them. The district has changed dramatically since then and we are happy being represented by Allyson Schwartz.

  • newfreedomblog

    Also a nice video to watch. Obama says not long ago that “reconciliation should never be used to pass something like healthcare reform”.
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    http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-american-agenda-flashback-dems-should-not-pass-healthcare-with-a-50-plus-1-strategy/comment-page-3/#comment-4407321
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    Now that is hypocrisy, Ladies and Gentlemen!!

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    That’s fine, Ivy_B, but we aren’t saying that Margolies-Mezvinsky should have voted for gay marriage in 1993, or some darn thing that would have turned off her district.
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    We’re talking about a small tax hike in order to narrow the deficit. The sort of thing that Reagan and Eisenhower and every reasonable statesman in the history of states has supported.
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    When people like Margolies-Mezvinsky expect and act like such reasonable, small-bore policies are political nightmares, it creates a climate and a discourse that regards reasonable policy as poisonous.
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    It need not be that way.

  • Ivy_B

    Sorry Elvis, I’m confused. She did vote for the small tax increase which is why they say she lost her seat. The Republicans used that against her over and over again. She didn’t really want to vote for it because she thought it was radioactive, but when it came down to vote for it or not, she voted for it.

  • Ffred

    Kirkpatrick is such a DINO. She’s out as far as my vote is concerned in any primary.

  • stuartzechman

    Ivy:
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    Here’s Dan Froomkin on what elections like these have cost liberal Democrats ( 03- 2-10 05:21 PM Rahm Emanuel: Obama’s Chief Of Sabotage):

    Emanuel’s greatest “victory” before this one, of course, was the one upon which he earned his reputation: Getting a bunch of conserva-Dems elected in purple states in 2006, winning the party control of the House while at the same time crippling its progressive agenda. This is what Emanuel is all about. For him, victory is everything — even if you have to give up your core values to win, and even if you could have won while sticking to them.
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    The Rahm Emanuel that Obama hired is the poster child for the timid, pseudo-pragmatism that is inimical to the idealistic Obama agenda so many excited voters responded to last November. And it’s a pragmatism that is absolutely killing the Democratic Party in the long run, because American voters have an intrinsic distrust of politicians they see as tacking with the polls or shying away from a fight. This if nothing else is the lesson of two George W. Bush presidencies: American voters have a profoundly soft spot for people with clear, strongly-held principles, almost regardless of what those principles are.
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    Emanuel is a Bush Democrat – but not in that he has learned the lesson about the value of holding firmly to core values. He is a Bush Democrat in that he has allowed Republicans to traumatize him into submission. Emanuel operates on a battlefield as defined by Republicans, where the terrain is littered with the specter of imaginary but profoundly terrifying GOP attack ads.

    The centrism that the fielders of Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky represent is anchored by a belief that liberalism is a failed philosophy both in policy and in politics –that, given a choice, these voters will never vote for liberal policies or candidates, and they shouldn’t.
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    In the antebellum-worshiping South, that political calculation might hold true until the next century. Everywhere else, that’s a losing strategy.
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    Denying voters the choice isn’t really representing them, it’s confirming their beliefs about how things work, while never letting them see if those ideas are true or not.
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    If you’ve read Markos’ book “Crashing The Gate,” he asserts that the Beltway consultant class resists even trying to field candidates who might truly represent the interests or know the concerns of their districts, but who aren’t ideologically committed to centrist politics.
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    The vast majority of ordinary voters, even those in conservative districts, aren’t hardcore rightist activists. If a choice is never given to these voters to select between a hardcore rightist who knows them, and a liberal who knows them, then hardcore rightist ideas will gain an “incumbency advantage” that’s has national implications.
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    Unless we’re talking about regional or ethnic identity politics, it’s just harder to get elected in a conservative-leaning district for a liberal Democrat, not harder to represent the district, and demonstrate the value of having been elected, the value of, say, having passed mortgage/home-saving legislation like “Cramdown.”
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    Republicans don’t have this problem the way that we do.

  • kevin

    Reconciliation is not being used to pass health care reform.
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    Health care reform already passed the Senate 60-39. The House already passed their own bill, but they’ll now be asked to pass the Senate bill. Which, again, was passed without reconciliation.
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    All reconciliation will be used for here are the minor differences between what the Senate did and what the House would like to see.
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    So, no, reconciliation will not be used to pass health care reform. Only people who don’t understand the process at all are saying it will.

  • tjoyce994

    excellent point

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Right. Had she not been acting like a modest tax hike was the political apocalypse, then there wouldn’t have been a bunch of Republicans making faces and chanting slogans at her as she cast her vote. Responsible policies would simply be responsible policies.
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    Acting like there’s a controversy creates the appearance that there is a controversy. She shouldn’t have acted like this bill was so awful.
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    Now, this admittedly only goes so far– she is definitely right that the 4 second soundbites, like “Read my lips, no new taxes” can play a huge, destructive role in politics. But when “centrist” Democrats act like those soundbites are the atom bomb, doing everything they can to ever avoid having to come up against them instead of simply standing for responsible policymaking, they worsen the problem.

  • Ivy_B

    Stuart, I was just trying to point out that political life here in 1994 was VERY different than it is now. She won her seat by 1,400 votes out of 250,000. Not exactly an overwhelming mandate. Since 2005, the district is represented by Allyson Schwartz who is no centrist.

  • stuartzechman

    Allyson Schwartz who is no centrist
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    I’m sorry, Ivy, I’m not trying to contradict you for the sake of argument (and I do understand your point), but Allyson Schwartz is, actually, a centrist (link to Wikipedia entry for Allyson Schwartz):

    Allyson Schwartz is a member of the New Democrat Coalition and the chair of the New Democrat Coalition Taskforce on Health.

    I know she has a history with Planned Parenthood, but she’s a New Democrat.
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    Perhaps she truly is a moderate centrist, instead of a radical centrist like Blanche Lincoln, but she’s a centrist.

  • Ivy_B

    Arrrrgggh! Thanks Stuart. This is my district and I was going on my feeling. I shall have to watch more carefully from now on. She does have an excellent record on choice issues – although I called and fussed when she voted for the telecoms.

    Of course, one of the problems is that they always run unacceptable candidates against her. It’s like my saying for so many years that I wouldn’t vote for Spector again and then his opponent was even worse.

  • FlownOver

    Putting this in another light – if a hard vote ends one’s political career then that vote should be seen as the crowning achievement, and successful conclusion, of that career.

  • http://liberalspin.wordpress.com darkskinned

    I hope Democrats are able to pass some form of “Healthcare Bill” .. That will pretty much guarantee the conservative victory in Nov. 2010 ..

    With a 79 seat majority in the House, I’m surprised that Pelosi even has to think about getting it passed thru the house.

    The problem is, Democrats are so incompetent, they cannot even convince everyone in their own congressional caucus that it’s a good bill, forget about convincing the American People.

  • catfish56

    That’s part of the job.

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    Hilary Hylton wrote about it for us on TIME.com

  • iamsource

    I would have to say the I completely DISAGREE with this sentiment. Why would I, as a voter, punish the Democrats at election time when they have help me and millions of others get affordable health insurance, for which we voted them into office to do? I am an intelligent enough American to know and reward those who have done the right thing. I’m certainly not going to reward those who were against it, AKA Republicans.

    The President and the Democrats have already sealed my vote on the next elections. You can bank on that. Even if everything doesn’t turn out perfect, I will still reward them because they cared enough to take this matter seriously and do the very best at making something work for us.

    I have nothing but love, admiration, and utter respect for their compassionate work on our behalf.

    May God truly bless them all.

  • iamsource

    The American people are already convinced. That’s why we voted them into office to do the job. Listening to Fox is nothing but brainwashing with lots of funding. The American people are behind this bill. The Republican Propaganda machine is simply trying to make everyone think that everyone else is against it so we all will look at it as something bad for us. NOTHING could be further from the truth. I am an intelligent enough American to know from experience that the last 30 years without health insurance was bad for me, and a Republican support consequence. I will not pretend it did not happen. Do you think everyone else will?

  • http://fourlegsrgood.wordpress.com fourlegsgood

    I’ll bet you hate spinach and broccoli too. Moron.

  • iamsource

    You are absolutely wrong. I am one of those American people you speak about, and there were millions more just like me the voted them into office for this very cause. I DO in FACT support this bill! Just for your edification SIR!

  • http://fourlegsrgood.wordpress.com fourlegsgood

    If this is such political suicide for the democrats, why aren’t the republicans letting it pass?

  • iamsource

    What really sickens me is how so many look at this as a re-election thing instead of doing the right thing for the people. I respect and honor those that do good deeds for the people, and you can better well believe I’m going to remember it at election time! No official should do their job to retain their job, they should do their job because of the good they can do with it, and the improvements they can make, and finally, they should do it because they just like doing that kind of work. They have my support.

  • iamsource

    Very Good Point! Does the word brainwashing and propaganda ring a bell anyone? We are no longer the brainwashed generations of old. The pain and suffering caused by such a gross lack of Government accountability has reached a boiling point and conservative creditability is dying fast and hard.

  • http://liberalspin.wordpress.com darkskinned

    “doing the right thing for the people”

    Yeah, right! reminds me of a scene from the Dumb & Dumber where Lloyd is trying to force rat poison pills down the throat of Mental

  • nflfoghorn

    Medicine sometimes has to be rammed down one’s throat for it to work :)

  • textee
  • stewartiii

    NewsBusters — TIME Reporter’s Advice to Endangered Dems on Health Care Vote: Think of Your ‘Legacy’
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2010/03/03/time-reporters-advice-endangered-dems-health-care-vote-think-your-lega

  • repzak

    It’s pointless to rail against “centrist” democrats. The problem is that obviously there is no way two parties can ever contain all the various views and opinions of the population. Thus in order to adorn themselves with the coveted D or R (and the financial backing it offers) any candidate has to compromise and seek the lowest common denominator. And even then there will be so many disagreements on policy that they aren’t really one party anyway.
    .
    In that way I kind of support the Republican “ethnic cleansing” of their own ranks. It’s much more honest to narrow what you represent to a set of principles that all your members can actually get behind. Of course the problem is that since there is this blasted two-party system that just leaves the rest of that party freezing in the cold and with no-one better to vote for (to them). And of course the cleansing isn’t really a cleansing – “smart” repubs just toe the party line whether they agree or not because the alternative is being that dreaded thing – outside any of the two parties.

  • iamsource

    Hmm.., perhaps, but wasn’t Mental trying to kill them? Seems like they still made the right choice now didn’t they?

  • abdullah69

    How can public service be considered a career? By definition, public service means placing the interests of others above oneself.

    Of course the current mash of Republicans would consider the “others” to be the energy, healthcare and defence industries whose industries they promote so well.

  • abdullah69

    Why are Republicans so focused on homoerotic expressions like “teabagging” and “ramming it down our throats”?

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