Polling Oracle: What Americans Want On Health Care Reform

Josh Lyman: Numbers don’t lie.
Joey Lucas: They lie all the time. They lie when 72% of Americans say they’re tired of a sex scandal while all the while newspaper circulation goes through the roof for anyone featuring the story. If you polled 100 Donnas and asked them if they think we should go out, you’d get a high positive response, but the poll wouldn’t tell you it’s because she likes you, she knows it’s beginning to show and she needs to cover herself in misdirection.                                                                                –The West Wing, “The War At Home

The good people at Gallup tell us this morning that President Obama walks into his “Hollow Square” meeting with Republicans in a position of weakness. Forty-nine percent of Americans oppose passing a health care bill “similar to the ones proposed by President Obama and the Democrats in the House and the Senate.” By contrast, 42 percent want to see the bill passed. That is a seven point spread, without a majority in opposition. It’s not exactly the total rejection that Republican leaders have been pretending exist.

Chuck Grassley told the Des Moines Register that 70 percent of the country want members of Congress to “start over.” That seems a bit high. A Zogby poll at the end of January found just 57 percent wanted to start over. If the pollster explained that “start over” would mean, in effect, killing any chance of a bill this year, I am sure the number would drop lower. Why do I say that?

A recent Washington Post poll asked Americans if they wanted lawmakers to keep trying to pass health reform or give up on it. By a margin of 63 percent to 34 percent, respondents chose “keep trying.” There is also evidence that Americans are most upset with the messy process of making the bill, not the core components of the bill. Should insurance companies be required to sell coverage regardless of preexisting conditions? Eighty percent say yes. Should all Americans be required to have insurance, either from their employer or with the help of tax credits? Fifty-six percent say yes.

“The president insists on bringing back a bill that the American people have resoundingly rejected,” says House Republican Whip Eric Cantor, offering the main Republican argument. This is not so much a description–what is resounding about 49 percent?–as it is a hopeful prediction.

The White House case, which will be used in the coming weeks to twist the arms of House democrats, follows like this: Once the bill is passed, we can get beyond the ugly process and move on to selling all the popular deliverables. If you don’t pass the bill, then you will still be hammered in the midterm elections for your last vote in favor of the measure–but you won’t have anything to show for it.

There is another precedent which might shed some light on where the American people stand on health care. In September, 56 percent of Americans opposed sending more troops to Afghanistan, while just 35 percent supported sending more troops. After Obama announced that he would be sending more troops, the numbers shifted significantly, with 51 percent of Americans supporting the troop increase and 43 percent opposing it. There are big differences in the politics of war and the politics of health care, but the truth remains: Poll results now on health care are simply not predictive of polling results if a bill passes.

UP FROM THE COMMENTS:

Forgottenlord reminds us of another West Wing gem, from the episode “Guns Not Butter“:

JOSH: No one who’s ever said they wanted bipartisanship has ever meant it. But the people are speaking. Because 68% think we give too much in foreign aid, and 59% think it should be cut.

WILL: You like that stat?

JOSH: I do.

WILL: Why?

JOSH: Because 9% think it’s too high, and shouldn’t be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, “I have utterly no idea what you’re talking about. Please, God, don’t ask for my input.”

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  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Shorter version: Winners win, losers lose. Pass the damn bill.

    (and if you want some fictional insight into politics and polling, I recommend the House of Cards series, either the books or the BBC shows, the story of Francis Urquardt, known affectionately as FU)

  • merelymyopinion

    The poll numbers say nothing about the relentless misinformation campaign that Republicans have fed those being polled. The GOP propaganda ministers have done their jobs well, and with a great assist from pervasive “he said/she said” news media, the general public is largely uninformed and misinformed on this topic. In fact, item-by-item, the public overwhelmingly favors health reform.

  • pafro

    Wow, you actually let some real insight trickle through.
    Only 25% of Americans even know what a filibuster is, so when Republicans whine about that Gallup Poll and try to say the majority of Americans don’t want Democrats to use reconciliation, you can rest assured that probably only 20% of Americans know what a Reconciliation is.
    I would bet that fully less than 10% of Americans could guess the date when reconciliation was last used to within +/-5 years.
    Six months after the bill passes very few people will even remember how or why the bill passed or by what amount. They will only care if it is going to help them personally or not.

    Heck, John McCain will even claim he voted for it.

  • afguy

    Chuck Grassley told the Des Moines Register that 70 percent of the country want members of Congress to “start over.”
    .
    You know, I ALMOST agree with that.
    .
    But first, lock the doors. NEXT, horse-whip the lot of them, THEN shut off the power, bathing and bathroom facilties during negotiations.
    .
    Tell them they can’t leave until they come up with a GOOD health care reform plan.
    .
    And, oh yeah, leave the sadist with the whip in place to “motivate” them…

  • afguy

    Oh, almost forgot the best part.
    .
    They don’t get any health care for the stripes until the REST of get something out of the process too.

  • afguy

    Should be “REST of us”…

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Great post, Michael. Those are some great examples of the limits of what we really learn from polls. It’s also worth noting that for policy questions on which well-off and poor Americans disagree by a substantial margin, “outcomes are fairly strongly related to the preferences of the well-to-do but wholly unrelated to the preferences of the poor.” (And for whatever it’s worth, the Democrats tend to be on the right side of public opinion).
    -
    Also, Jim is right, everyone should go watch House of Cards right now.

  • towandavt

    Polling questions rarely capture the nuances of the opinions on a topic. When it comes to polling on health care, do we know which portion of those “against” the “bill” are against it because it does not go far enough or goes too far? The numbers on individual pieces render a clearer picture.

    Folks let us just face the fact that Republicans have opposed any health care program, every law, plan or effort that helps working and middle class people and have supported every war. War is a “full employment plan”. They are killers not healers. Democrats aren’t perfection, but they’re all we’ve got.

    I’d start from scratch all right. Scrap all this “compromisy-bipartisany crap” and go straight to a one page bill – Medicare for all in a reconcilliation vote.

    No more talkin’, blah, blah, blah. All done!

  • pafro

    Right on cue. McConnell just tried to claim that Americans are opposed to reconciliation.

  • christophermgomez

    Michael, I love you for quoting The West Wing.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Y’know, Josh’s opinion comes in complete contradiction to a later episode where he mulls over a different poll (excuse the inaccurate numbers):
    .
    Josh: 56% of Americans think we spend too much on foreign aide and 47% think it should be cut.
    Someone: You really like that stat. You keep repeating it.
    Josh: Because 9% of Americans think we spend too much on foreign aide but that it shouldn’t be cut. 9% of the respondents were so confused by the question that they couldn’t give consistent answers.

  • brusselsclaire

    Well, maybe Joey talked sense into Josh?

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