More Polling On Health Care, And The Newt View

TIME’s Sophia Yan files this report:

On the morning of President Obama’s bipartisan health care summit, a new poll finds 52% of voters oppose the current proposal and 59% of voters prefer to simply start over, according to a survey by Public Opinion Strategies and the Center for Health Transformation.  Half of those polled would rather maintain the status quo than pass the proposal by Obama and Congress, which marks a shift from last fall when most said it was still better to pass this plan than keep the current health care system, according to several NBC/WSJ polls.

“The turning point was December,” Bill McInturff of Public Opinion Strategies told TIME. “The [public] watched deals — hundreds of millions of dollars for private deals for the special interests of some members of Congress.” The way such deals, like Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson’s cornhusker kickback, “have been handled has worked to reduce support,” he says.

Though these numbers are disheartening for an administration that’s spent a year on this issue, the final bell has not yet tolled: 62% say total overhaul is still needed.  “People still want substantial change in health care,” said McInturff at a Christian Science Monitor breakfast with reporters this morning. “They’ve just decided that the current plan is too much and goes too far.”  Although affordable health care tops the priority list for Republicans, Democrats and independents, a strong common bipartisan thread remains hard to trace.  And considerations that do not meet eye-to-eye mean “the President today has an unenviable job,” McInturff said.

As Washington’s most tossed-around hot coal, health care reform will rock the 2010 elections.  “Democrats know that they’re going to lose some large chunk of seats in 2010,” McInturff says. Right now, the challenge is how to position the party to pay the least penalty, rather than the maximum when election season rolls around.

What failed to work is that Obama did not “always understand leaders are remarkably limited by the scale of the country,” like FDR did, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich told TIME. “ You can’t go beyond a certain pace.”  By pushing too far, things had “managed to implode.”

Does the botched health care reform process mean that the 111th Congress is more dysfunctional than past sessions? “The technique the [founding fathers] designed was to make the machine so inefficient that no dictator could force it to work,” chuckled Gingrich.  With a “huge idea the country increasingly opposes,” like the current health care legislation, lawmakers should not be able to “ram it through despite the country,” he said at the breakfast.

So what needs to happen now? “Slow down the tempo and not let people dance away from it,” said Gingrich.

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  • afguy

    Newt will find wisdom in ANY tactic that helps his side win.
    .
    If it’s used against him, it’s un-American and the “Founding Fathers” had no such idea in mind.
    .
    An article on the “Morals and Ethics of Newt Gingrich” would be a short one indeed.

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    former House Speaker Newt Gingrich

    The key word being “former.” Twelve years since he held elective office, an office he was driven out of by his own party, a poisonous demagogue and hypocrite of legendary proportions, and for some reason the liberal media keep asking him to comment on politics

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Wow. A poll that Michael just explained is meaningless, zero discussion of any substantive issues whatsoever, then a quote from Newt Gingrich.
    -
    This isn’t a “report,” this is GOP talking points typed up by someone that Time magazine gives money to for some reason.

  • afguy

    I’ve got an idea. Let’s get Tom DeLay on with Newt and ask BOTH of them to comment.
    .
    I can’t think of two more UNAPPEALING on-screen personalities to represent the GOP in all of its “obstructionist” glory.
    .
    “Slimy” and Slimy-er”

  • pafro

    Newt Gingrich operates a Republican health care lobbying firm. He takes millions of dollars as an unregistered lobbyist for most of the biggest health care special interests.
    This information is more important than the fact he was once in government.
    I can’t believe that when you needed a quote about this you ran to the first lobbyist you could find and then purposely deceived your readers as to what compels his statements. For shame.

  • allthingsinaname

    “On the morning of President Obama’s bipartisan health care summit, a new poll finds 52% of voters oppose the current proposal and 59% of voters prefer to simply start over”

    >
    >
    So how does that break down? 26% don’t want any Health care reform, 26% think the plan doesn’t go far enough and 48% think it is fine or don’t care?
    >
    It doesn’t mean that 52 or 59% don’t want health care reform. It means that about 48% , the largest block, that think the reform is fine. This is what they look at.

  • queencersei

    And someone with top notch life time health care of his own if I’m not mistaken. Of course he doesn’t care if HCR ever happens. He has already got his.

  • queencersei

    Your forgetting about Cheney. Dick or Liz, take your pick.

  • markstev

    Scherer,

    Are you censoring those who disagree with you?

  • shepherdwong

    Yes, the country is basically split on the proposed legislation while, at the same time, widely ignorant – or misinformed – about what’s in it. So, every time a Republican makes the claim that the public has overwhelmingly rejected to proposed legislation, which they all constantly do, they are lying.

  • http://firstfarmandweatherreport.blogspot.com/ maxwelldog

    I’m always suspicious of “polls” because there are all kinds of schemes involved to prove out this or that…even if the poll is a legitimate reckoning of a specific group of people, BUT
    hey.
    -Who gets to pick the people?
    -Is the guy living in the cardboard box given poll points?
    -What about the guy who doesn’t know any better and has sucked up the media view on that subject?

    For example, I just took a poll in this house and have a 100% return that Newt Gingrich can double talk his way out of any bag, and even if he can’t? He has a pair of scissors and will cut the bottom out.
    This poll was primarily of white, near elderly males who are vets.
    (my dog abstained from any polling questions because he is asleep)

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    On Fox right now, the newsreader is trying to hammer Linda Douglas with questions about the polls that say “the people oppose the bill,” and nothing else, at all.
    -
    “They don’t want the bill, they want you to start over. Why don’t you listen.” That’s what this Megyn Kelly just had to say.
    -
    Maybe someday, it’ll be Sophia Yan asking those misleading, substanceless questions!

  • markstev

    “On the morning of President Obama’s bipartisan health care summit, a new poll finds 52% of voters oppose the current proposal and 59% of voters prefer to simply start over, according to a survey by Public Opinion Strategies and the Center for Health Transformation.”

    Scherer and Sophia,

    Sounds like a bagel shop in Newport Beach.

    So it’s Public Opinion Strategies and the Center for Health Transformation. Sounds interesting. Let’s see who and what these organizations really are all about.

    Public Opinion Strategies

    http://www.pos.org/inthenews/20041103.cfm

    Nov. 3, 2004 Public Opinion Strategies Press Release

    First sentence: “The Republican polling firm of Public Opinion Strategies (POS) polled for four Republican takeovers in the U.S. Senate, one new Governor, and six new members of Congress.”

    Hmm, so Public Opinion Strategies is a self-described Republican polling firm. Funny, but you kids never mentioned this affiliation. Wonder why?

  • markstev

    Then there’s Bill McInturff of Public Opinion Strategies. Never heard of the boy. Let’s find out a bit more.

    http://www.pos.org/about/mcinturff.asp

    “Bill McInturff is a partner and co-founder of Public Opinion Strategies, a national political and public affairs survey research firm. Since its founding in 1991, the firm has completed more than 5 million interviews with voters and consumers in all fifty states and over a dozen foreign countries, and conducted more than 3,500 focus groups. Called by The New York Times, “the leading Republican polling company,” Public Opinion Strategies currently represents nineteen U.S. Senators, seven governors, and over 40 Members of Congress.”

    Well, golly gee whiz, Ole’ Bill McInturff’s not just some grunt from Public Opinion Strategies. Looks like McInturff, as per his firm’s own website, is partner and co-founder of the operation.

    In addition, seems those nasty types at The New York Times have called Public Opinion Strategies “the leading Republican polling company.” McInturff proudly admits as much right there on his firm’s own website and in his own company profile.

    Wonder why you silly kids never mentioned these, ummm, facts?

  • markstev

    Let’s see if someone with a computer, google, and a little hunger (you remember hunger, kids, it came right before the nannies) can find out about ole’ Bill McInturff.

    http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/mcinturff_responds_to_stan_gre.php

    “Undecided Wars: Bill McInturff Responds To Stan Greenberg
    30 Oct 2008 09:10 pm
    “John McCain’s chief pollster, Bill McInturff, responds via e-mail to Stan Greenberg:
    “I went on Real Clear Politics tonight to find these two headlines back-to-back.
    “CBS/NYT: Obama up comfortably
    “FOX: Race tightens significantly
    “No wonder people can be confused about the status of this campaign.
    “I am weighting African Americans to census +1%. I am weighting young voters to be at least 16% of the turn-out. With those weights, I have seen the race tighten since last week.
    “If we were betting on the spread of a football game, I will let Stan take the CBS/NYT’s poll’s margins.
    “I believe we live in a world much closer to the Fox results.”

    Well tie me to an anthill and smear my face with jam! According to Marc Ambinder at The Atlantic, seems ole’ Bill McInturff worked as “John McCain’s chief pollster” during the 2008 presidential election. You silly kids remember Mr. McCain. He was the Conservative candidate for president. Lost, too.

    Even more interesting, ole’ Bill McInturff believed then (and believes now?) that “we live in a world much closer to the Fox results.” Turns out he was wrong in 2008. Wonder, though, if Mr. McInturff retained those Fox-Ailes tenets of his when Public Opinion Strategies developed this poll?

    And I wonder why you silly kids neglected to mention ole’ Bill McInturff’s work for Conservative presidential candidate John McCain? Or his Fox-centric view of the world?

  • markstev

    Then, of course, there’s the Center for Health Transformation. Let’s see if we can find out anything about this operation.

    http://www.healthtransformation.net/cs/newt_gingrich

    Newt Gingrich
    Founder
    “Since retiring from Congress, Newt Gingrich has worked extensively on the issues of health and healthcare, devoting the majority of his time to advocating a transformation of the entire system. In 2003, he founded the Center for Health Transformation, a collaboration of public and private sector leaders dedicated to the creation of a 21st Century Intelligent Health System that saves lives and saves money.”

    Well, I’ll be darned. Newt Gingrich isn’t just the former House speaker like you kids mentioned above. Mr. Gingrich is the founder of the Center for Health Transformation. Mr. Gingrich has been running the place for about seven years, if my math is correct.

    Wonder why you silly kids never mentioned Mr. Gingrich’s direct ties to the Center for Health Transformation in your fine, thorough, in-depth piece of reporting.

    Really, though, I look forward to your next effort: A probing conversation on the need to include financing for lip injections in the next defense bill with Miss Beverly Hills (sic), Lauren Ashley.

    P.S. Gonna save this version, Mr. Scherer. In case you think about returning to your censorship policies of 20 minutes ago.

  • kmolinel

    Hmmm….you fail to point out that Public Opinion Strategies, according to its own web site, is “…a national Republican political and public affairs research firm” and the Center for Health Transformation is part of the Gingrich Consultancy. Guess those pharma ads must mean a lot to Time Warner…

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