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Scott Brown: Commie Sellout

You’ve got to love it. Scott Brown casts a sane and completely justifiable vote for a jobs bill that is essentially a tax cut for small businesses and Glenn Beck attacks him as…a…progressive. (In Beck’s lunatic lexicon, a progressive is a slow-motion communist.)

So, the question arises: How can we purge the Senate of this Massachusetts commie RINO? Is there not an American Patriot who will primary Scott Brown in 2012? Maybe someone in uniform–a battle of Bunker Hill re-enactor? C’mon Tea Partiers, this guy Brown has no principles! He’s a politician. Cast him out!

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  • http://www.pledge-drive.com bondwooley

    Beck should be banished to Canada. Along with Brown (in spite of this vote) and the whole Palin tribe.

    If *they* moved to Canada, then *the rest of us* could stop threatening to move there!

    The Last Straw

    (satire)

  • diecash1

    You really can’t take anything that Beck or his idiot brigade says seriously. He should be ignored like other ill-mannered trolls.
    ..
    Brown has apparently decided that it’s better to act and vote like he wants to be re-elected, not like he wants to be the star of the tea party crowd. Sanity prevails.

  • allthingsinaname

    You do ot think much of international relations.

  • http://www.pledge-drive.com bondwooley

    Well, I feel bad for Canada. For a minute or two…

  • lupercal5

    yeah dude. i hope they impeach him. they might be dumb enough to believe it’s quite possible

  • queencersei

    Not to say I told you so, buuuuuut…..
    Did anyone bother to look at his website when he was running for office? His stands are mostly in-line with the GOP program. But there were red flags on issues like stem cell research and abortion if anyone cared to look. He had RINO written all over him. But everyone was blinded by the ‘he has ended the super majority meme’. The only thing shocking about this is that people appear shocked.

  • charlieromeobravo

    LOL. It’s funny how Beck and his lunatic ilk are telling people that “progressive” is a dirty word. The root of the word is “progress” and that’s bad I guess. They’d prefer the America of their youth that they describe in loving detail but never actually existed. Certainly not the way they they describe it anyway.

    I realize that Brown’s opposition to HCR was a blow to the Democratic majority but Brown has never been the dreamboat that some Tea Baggers have been making him out to be. He didn’t campaign on a super strict tea bagger approved platform and since he was elected he’s gone out of his way to make it clear that he’s going to be an issue voter and not a reliable party line voter.

    But, this should tell you all you need to know about how the tea baggers operate and why the Republicans aren’t cooperating with the Democratic majority. The ‘Baggers leave no room for independent thought and heap scorn on anyone who deviates. I’m stunned that they’re not castigating Cheney for being in favor of lifting DADT. Regardless, they’re cancer for the Republican party in the same way that the Christian right was for such a long time. Letting one loud minority steer the party doesn’t do them any favors and the rest of the country has to suffer for it.

  • Joe Klein

    Perhaps I should start calling Beck a regressive?

  • jsfox

    Truth is, based on Brown’s in state record as a legislator he falls somewhere to right of Ben Nelson and to the left of Senator Collins. If he wants any hope of being re-elected in MA he has to vote like a moderate.

    The White House even thinks he is in play to vote for HCR.

  • kbanginmotown

    Bingo!

  • grape_crush

    Maybe ‘Bozo-vative’, at least in light of what one of Beck’s fellow Arkham residents is saying.

  • mxyzptlk1953

    8 more senators voted for the jobs bill than voted to allow a vote on the jobs bill. Trying to make sense of that.

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  • charlieromeobravo

    Regressive? lol, that fits better than any other label I’ve heard applied to him. It’s more polite than most of them too :-)

  • http://tinselwing.wordpress.com/ nicteis

    Brown campaigned on a promise to be the 41st vote against the health care bill. Just as crucially, for many of the independents and all of the Democrats who crossed over to him, he promised to be “independent” and not vote in lockstep with the GOP. The tea partiers may be mad at this vote, but the folks who gave him his margin want to see him do stuff like this.

    I greatly fear it will work. This is just kabuki. I am confident that the “independent” Scott Brown went to the leadership and asked permission to vote for this particular bill. And since the Republicans actually wanted what was in it anyhow – a business tax break, after all; and since the Maine ladies and a couple others were breaking ranks anyway, they gave him permission.

    He will often prove his Republican bona fides by being Mr. 41. The real test of whether he has bona fides as an “independent” will be whether he ever votes with the Democrats when it actually matters. If he is never Mr. 60, but only Mr. 61 or 62, then his independence is a mirage, born of the eagerness of the leadership to provide him with the illusion of occasional bipartisanship that he will need, if he is ever to be re-elected in Massachusetts.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    I’d say we don’t want ‘em, but then again, they’d be banished to “obscurity” which is about as bad a punishment as you can give those idiots.

  • dwilli14

    Where’s Rusty? I need to hear some of his sage nuggets of truth in such confusing times!

  • richinnj

    He’s still going to be a reliable GOP vote on most issues, like HCR. This vote was merely designed to provide him with political cover for the other unpopular positions that his troglodytical party champions.

  • pafro

    Sage is not the odor I would use to describe Rusty’s nuggets.
    If I were in Massachusetts, I would be writing letters to the editor thanking Scott Brown for being a closet liberal and promising to vote for him if he keeps the Kennedy dream alive.
    A little “Operation Chaos” if you will.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    But haven’t you heard? Glenn Beck’s a communist

  • sacredh

    JK: You’re much more polite than I am. My first thought was MFer.

  • sacredh

    An American Patriot primary Scott Brown in 2012? Too funny.

  • http://firstfarmandweatherreport.blogspot.com/ maxwelldog

    Well, being a Hoosier hasn’t helped in my quest for good info, however, near as I can figure, the argument here may be moot as to whether he is a RINO (which some erroneously call me) or a progressive, or just any old thing they think of off the top of their heads….
    From the past news, I think my dog with a note in his mouth could have won against the Democratic figurehead in Massachusetts because she didn’t run at all.
    I mean, does she even have bumper stickers?
    Was she that sure of winning under the wing of Mr. Kennedy that she blew it off?

    In any case, I’m going to start writing notes for my dog to carry around.
    Just in case.

    Is there any room for reasoning here?
    One of the biggest faults of modern politics seems to be a complete blindness to bi-partisanship, a myopic aim for stagnancy, and a great deal of once-in-hunkering-down-and-staying-in thinking.
    I HATE professional politicians. Rail against them every chance i get. (yeah…like now)
    They are a drag on our freedom into the future! They create their own rules, lead instead of serve, and in general, build a tall wall between the country, and, from the sounds of it, other nations…Like our ALLIE Canada.
    Brown doesn’t seem to be like that at all.
    In fact…could it be that after two terms, he’ll do the same thing that Evan Bath did?

    Hope so.
    Even more fantastic of a thought?
    After he retires, the two (Bayh and Brown) run for the Presidency together.
    YEAH!

    I’de vote for THAT ticket!

  • eruditeenigma

    I do not get some of you people, especially the idiot in chief Joe Klein. A little more than a couple weeks ago, Scott Brown and his supporters were labeled as “melanin-deprived pickup truck owners” implying that Scott Brown is a white right-winger whack job almost klan member along with his supporters. This ironic considering that the president pro-tempore of the US Senate is a true ex-klan member that is three heart beats away from the presidency. Now, Scott Brown is acceptable and the almighty Joe Klein is mocking true conservatives in Scott Brown’s defense with his childish sarcasm.

    Therefore, I say this to the self proclaimed intellectual Joe Klein and those that worship as his alter which hold their meetings in phone booths, Scott Brown is a Massachusetts Republican, and he is an ultra-conservative by the Socialists that sent the second most liberal senator (dick’em and dunk’em Ted) to the US Senate seven times. Electing Scott Brown after 47 years of Teddy is a monster step by Massachusetts standards or a temporary moment of lucidity, but for most of us in rational Middle America or “fly over territory” as the elitist Klein would have us labeled, Scott Brown’s election is a baby step in the right direction.

    Scott Brown is a RINO by Reagan Conservative or Tea Party standards and those that are upset at Scott Brown’s vote on the “jobs bill” have only themselves to blame. Those that are upset attributed values and standards to Scott Brown that just were not there. This is much the same phenomenon that led Pres. Obama to getting elected under the “hope and change” moniker. How else did Pres Obama win by 26% in Massachusetts only to lose a senate seat by 5% for a total 31% point swing.

    Voters are looking for true hope from the hopelessness of an administration that has accomplished NOTHING he promised and even Jimmy Carter has bristled at the notion Pres Obama of being compared to him. November of this year will be a watershed election that will determine this nation’s viability as a true capitalistic economic powerhouse or a meek euro-socialistic lap dog to our Chinese mortgage holder.

    Scott Brown is a progressive as Glenn Beck correctly states and so is John McCain. The difference is that Scott Brown has the excuse of coming from Massachusetts, there is hope for improvement but John McCain has no excuse and no hope of improvement.

    Finally, all those that have even the smallest of impulses to move to Canada or any other countries, please do so with all due haste. The United States of America has long been a beacon of hope to all that want to escape from the economic follies and freedom killing acts of other countries. Those disaffected by our policies and desire euro-centric socialistic government are free to move there, please do not screw up my country.

  • http://firstfarmandweatherreport.blogspot.com/ maxwelldog

    My goodness, you sure do pack some adjectives there.
    “self procalimed intellectual?”
    I’m sorry…did you actually look at your own name?

    I also got left out of the conversation…was President Obama actually running for a seat in Massachusetts?

    If Glenn Beck actually said something correct, it would be because the coin he flipped came up that way. When it comes up the other way, we get tears. Big, sad, crocodile tears.

    And just what the heck do YOU have against our Northern Ally?
    Perhaps you think they are the receptacle for your refuse? How magnanimous of you, sir. The government of eight years under Bush junior has produced JUST that type of thinking. On the one hand, send down your resources for us to burn away for our luxuries, whether it be oil squeezed from the sand or lumber from some of the last remaining forests in North America. After all, we want softer toilet paper, don’t we?

    So, Mr. Great Learned Puzzle, you stand for “all” voters?
    Really?
    Well, we’re actually looking for MORE of what Mr. Obama is giving us right now.
    We LIKE the transparency.
    We like to be able to communicate our ideas to the top ears in the country, ….and while the Republicans in general are missing that point right now, I think they’ll be finding out over the next four years that We The People are tired of age old rhetoric from the likes of rabble grousers like you, Beck, Limbaugh, Robertson, Basso, and the like.
    We hope you don’t move to Canada. They are our ally.
    Move to Iran where you’ll be better accepted as one of their own.

  • eruditeenigma

    Maxwelldog,
    My goodness, you sure do pack some adjectives there.
    “self procalimed intellectual?”
    Mr. Klein is fond of labels. He especially loves to proclaim just how stupid Americans are for not worshipping on the alter of the Messiah in Chief.
    I’m sorry…did you actually look at your own name?
    Your apology is accepted, despite you inability to understand.
    I also got left out of the conversation…was President Obama actually running for a seat in Massachusetts?
    You must be a bit slow. As mentioned in this very Blog, Scott Brown ran as the “41st” vote against Obama Care. Therefore, Coffee K9, Pres. Obama lost a much needed US senate seat for his agenda. Please tell me you are not that thick.
    If Glenn Beck actually said something correct, it would be because the coin he flipped came up that way. When it comes up the other way, we get tears. Big, sad, crocodile tears.
    If you have conclusive evidence of something Glenn Beck has said that is patently false or wrong, please proffer them now or lets not cast aspersions without evidence.
    And just what the heck do YOU have against our Northern Ally?
    Perhaps you think they are the receptacle for your refuse? How magnanimous of you, sir. The government of eight years under Bush junior has produced JUST that type of thinking. On the one hand, send down your resources for us to burn away for our luxuries, whether it be oil squeezed from the sand or lumber from some of the last remaining forests in North America. After all, we want softer toilet paper, don’t we?
    I have nothing against Canada, I just don not want their style of government or healthcare here. That is why I live here and NOT there. If you like it there, Move, but do not try to make the USA into Canada. Perhaps Danny Williams knows what I know, the best healthcare in the world is in the USA. That is why he chose not to wait for treatment in Newfoundland or Labrador. Perhaps Newfoundland and Labrador are best suited to dog breeding.
    As for resources, we have plenty of oil off shore and in AWAR but you green weenies say NO to using our resources. As for lumber, Canada has chosen to export its resources. If the exchange of lumber to trash is okay by them, its okay by me.
    As for Toilet paper, YES I like it soft and plentiful. If you wan to be a Sheryl Crow and stick to two pieces of TP per toilet session, be my guest. Perhaps she can lend her tongue as back up. If you prefer to live 3rd world style, Move to Cuba, I can exchange you for one of my relatives.
    So, Mr. Great Learned Puzzle, you stand for “all” voters?
    Really?
    No I do not, I stand up for myself alone. If you agree, join me if not go in peace. What I can say is that my point of view is shared by others as indicated by the last three major elections.
    Well, we’re actually looking for MORE of what Mr. Obama is giving us right now.
    We LIKE the transparency.
    So you then represent voters? Transparency huh, remember the CSPAN promise?
    We like to be able to communicate our ideas to the top ears in the country, ….and while the Republicans in general are missing that point right now, I think they’ll be finding out over the next four years that We The People are tired of age old rhetoric from the likes of rabble grousers like you, Beck, Limbaugh, Robertson, Basso, and the like.
    You amuse me. Do you actually think Obama gives a Rat’s ass what you think?? Only 35% want Obama Care, that in not exactly a plurality of voters. Perhaps Maxie poo , you would like to wager on what will happen this next November?

    We hope you don’t move to Canada. They are our ally. Move to Iran where you’ll be better accepted as one of their own.
    Gee I thought Obama was going to charm Iran into being our friend. I thought all would be fixed when The messiah got elected. If I go to Iran, it will be armed with other brave souls to fix the problem over there. More than likely, our testicular challenged president will leave it up to the Israelis to take care of business

  • http://firstfarmandweatherreport.blogspot.com/ maxwelldog

    intelligent puzzle, how Bush junior of you…
    Well, it is obvious you are a Bush junior boy.
    Gambling with the future.
    So, how many lies of Beck’s do you want to hear?
    That President Obama is a racist? Or his fantasy about believing in god? (I most certainly wouldn’t believe in the small thing that Beck calls a god.)

    Yes, the President DOES care what I think. You are confusing Bush junior’s NSA attacks on those who disagreed with his (or rather, Cheney’s) assessment of who is in power. Cheney has worked so very hard for several presidents to reclaim power to the presidency, and yet…the job is for service, not blind bungling.
    I can write to the White House and in detail, go through what I think is is important, and, should he pick up my letter, then yes, he will read it and give it consideration.
    Because he said he would.
    I get to see the business of the day LIVE…not with your hero, though.
    Beck is a poor substitute for credibility.
    Bush junior, however, only knew how to lie and then compound those lies with misdirection.
    (that’s when one waves a flag over here (Afghanistan) when he’s taking money out of our pocket over there (Iraq) at the same time)

    Just because the greediest of doctors work here does not make the Health Care in the US the best.
    Maybe the facts have confused you? Perhaps even stunned you?
    Moxnix, puzzle boy. The Canadians love their Health Care, although the very rich there do the same thing the very rich do here. Clamor to the best waving greenbacks.
    Claiming their monetary wealth equals the right to better care. Meanwhile some 40000+ US citizens die for no health care every year.

    When a person’s wealth equates to their status in a society (just as the British alluded to in the early 1700s) then it is time to change out the error.
    And, next November…maybe Beck and his traveling circus will have decimated Republican strongholds for us. A wonderful vision.

    You stand up for yourself, alone?
    Then you have no followers.
    Odd that you write as if you have a constituency, you throw names around as if they were fact, and you demean others based on your lonely little life?
    What a quest you’re on…
    And, as aptly put before, how magnanimous of you.
    You destroy the Earth, and gleefully, too. I don’t agree with Sheryl Crow on a lot of points, but, if you’re against her, I think I should re-evaluate my stand.
    Because you think only 35% of the American public wants the Obama Health Care plan to work?
    Geez…come back to Mother Earth!
    Polling numbers first read that McCain would win against Obama.
    Polling numbers said man could never fly, too.
    Polling numbers said that we should never allow and would never allow mixed racial marriages.

    So, how come a Cuban like you thinks that we give a rat’s behind what you think, anyway?

  • eruditeenigma

    “intelligent puzzle, how Bush junior of you…Well, it is obvious you are a Bush junior boy.Gambling with the future.”

    You poor pathetic misguided fool, I am not, and was not a Bush supporter. It is typical of small-minded bottom feeders like you; automatically assume I or others like me are Bush supporters. I am not into the cult of personality; we are a nation of laws and Constitutional principles, NOT royalty or one president. However, if I were forced to pick one president I admire as having best honored our Constitution and conservative mandates, it would be Ronald Wilson Reagan.

    “So, how many lies of Beck’s do you want to hear?
    That President Obama is a racist? Or his fantasy about believing in god? (I most certainly wouldn’t believe in the small thing that Beck calls a god.)”

    I never called Pres. Obama a racist. I have never brought up race, but I find it odd that the left is obsessed with it. Again, you proffer no specific Beck lies, inaccuracies or misrepresentations. Let’s forget about Beck if you are not going to cite with specificity, a categorical inaccurate statement or “lies”. I now know why you are the twisted little man that you are. If you feel that GOD is “small thing” or a “fantasy”, than there is no way to reason with you.

    “Yes, the President DOES care what I think. You are confusing Bush junior’s NSA attacks on those who disagreed with his (or rather, Cheney’s) assessment of who is in power. Cheney has worked so very hard for several presidents to reclaim power to the presidency, and yet…the job is for service, not blind bungling.
    I can write to the White House and in detail, go through what I think is is important, and, should he pick up my letter, then yes, he will read it and give it consideration.
    Because he said he would.
    I get to see the business of the day LIVE…not with your hero, though.
    Beck is a poor substitute for credibility.
    Bush junior, however, only knew how to lie and then compound those lies with misdirection.
    (that’s when one waves a flag over here (Afghanistan) when he’s taking money out of our pocket over there (Iraq) at the same time)”

    I don’t even know where to start with that disjointed, incoherent diatribe. You are afflicted with a complicated syndrome that is yet to be named or successfully treated. However, perhaps you can explain in great detail, just what has Pres. Obama done in Iraq or Afghanistan that is radically different than Pres. Bush. The troops are not home as promised by Obama. Oh, and GITMO is still open.

    Just because the greediest of doctors work here does not make the Health Care in the US the best. Maybe the facts have confused you? Perhaps even stunned you?
    Moxnix, puzzle boy. The Canadians love their Health Care, although the very rich there do the same thing the very rich do here. Clamor to the best waving greenbacks.
    Claiming their monetary wealth equals the right to better care. Meanwhile some 40000+ US citizens die for no health care every year.”

    Danny Williams the premier of the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador chose the USA because for treatment because we are the best. The “rich” tend to buy the best, get a clue Maxie Poo. Thousands of Canadians every year come to the USA for treatment because their system SUX. Since Canada does not have an economic embargo with Cuba, and the same Canadian “rich” vacation in Cuba, why don’t the get their healthcare there as well?

    Since I pay for my own healthcare out of pocket I know what it costs. I don’t want Medicare. I had to pay out of packet for COBRA while being unemployed for over a year under this Obama economy. Many that don’t have insurance, choose not to or fail to apply for Medicare.

    “When a person’s wealth equates to their status in a society (just as the British alluded to in the early 1700s) then it is time to change out the error.
    And, next November…maybe Beck and his traveling circus will have decimated Republican strongholds for us. A wonderful vision.”

    Care to wager? I am willing to put my money where my mouth is, sack up or shut up.

    “You stand up for yourself, alone?
    Then you have no followers.
    Odd that you write as if you have a constituency, you throw names around as if they were fact, and you demean others based on your lonely little life?
    What a quest you’re on…”

    You amuse me I am not lonely. I have a wonderful wife and beautiful baby girl. It is for her that I fight, that is my “quest”.

    “And, as aptly put before, how magnanimous of you.
    You destroy the Earth, and gleefully, too. I don’t agree with Sheryl Crow on a lot of points, but, if you’re against her, I think I should re-evaluate my stand.
    Because you think only 35% of the American public wants the Obama Health Care plan to work?
    Geez…come back to Mother Earth!
    Polling numbers first read that McCain would win against Obama.
    Polling numbers said man could never fly, too.
    Polling numbers said that we should never allow and would never allow mixed racial marriages.”

    Well. I will not dignify that pabulum with an answer. You are a sick little man.

    “So, how come a Cuban like you thinks that we give a rat’s behind what you think, anyway?”

    This US born CITIZEN with Cuban parents knows more about Communism/Socialism/Progressivism than your feeble Godless mind could possibly fathom.

  • eruditeenigma

    Maxie Poo,

    “intelligent puzzle, how Bush junior of you…Well, it is obvious you are a Bush junior boy.Gambling with the future.”

    You poor pathetic misguided fool, I am not, and was not a Bush supporter. It is typical of small-minded bottom feeders like you; automatically assume I or others like me are Bush supporters. I am not into the cult of personality; we are a nation of laws and Constitutional principles, NOT royalty or one president. However, if I were forced to pick one president I admire as having best honored our Constitution and conservative mandates, it would be Ronald Wilson Reagan.

    “So, how many lies of Beck’s do you want to hear?
    That President Obama is a racist? Or his fantasy about believing in god? (I most certainly wouldn’t believe in the small thing that Beck calls a god.)”

    I never called Pres. Obama a racist. I have never brought up race, but I find it odd that the left is obsessed with it. Again, you proffer no specific Beck lies, inaccuracies or misrepresentations. Let’s forget about Beck if you are not going to cite with specificity, a categorical inaccurate statement or “lies”. I now know why you are the twisted little man that you are. If you feel that GOD is “small thing” or a “fantasy”, than there is no way to reason with you.

    “Yes, the President DOES care what I think. You are confusing Bush junior’s NSA attacks on those who disagreed with his (or rather, Cheney’s) assessment of who is in power. Cheney has worked so very hard for several presidents to reclaim power to the presidency, and yet…the job is for service, not blind bungling.
    I can write to the White House and in detail, go through what I think is is important, and, should he pick up my letter, then yes, he will read it and give it consideration.
    Because he said he would.
    I get to see the business of the day LIVE…not with your hero, though.
    Beck is a poor substitute for credibility.
    Bush junior, however, only knew how to lie and then compound those lies with misdirection.
    (that’s when one waves a flag over here (Afghanistan) when he’s taking money out of our pocket over there (Iraq) at the same time)”

    I don’t even know where to start with that disjointed, incoherent diatribe. You are afflicted with a complicated syndrome that is yet to be named or successfully treated. However, perhaps you can explain in great detail, just what has Pres. Obama done in Iraq or Afghanistan that is radically different than Pres. Bush. The troops are not home as promised by Obama. Oh, and GITMO is still open.

    Just because the greediest of doctors work here does not make the Health Care in the US the best. Maybe the facts have confused you? Perhaps even stunned you?
    Moxnix, puzzle boy. The Canadians love their Health Care, although the very rich there do the same thing the very rich do here. Clamor to the best waving greenbacks.
    Claiming their monetary wealth equals the right to better care. Meanwhile some 40000+ US citizens die for no health care every year.”

    Danny Williams the premier of the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador chose the USA because for treatment because we are the best. The “rich” tend to buy the best, get a clue Maxie Poo. Thousands of Canadians every year come to the USA for treatment because their system SUX. Since Canada does not have an economic embargo with Cuba, and the same Canadian “rich” vacation in Cuba, why don’t the get their healthcare there as well?

    Since I pay for my own healthcare out of pocket I know what it costs. I don’t want Medicare. I had to pay out of packet for COBRA while being unemployed for over a year under this Obama economy. Many that don’t have insurance, choose not to or fail to apply for Medicare.

    “When a person’s wealth equates to their status in a society (just as the British alluded to in the early 1700s) then it is time to change out the error.
    And, next November…maybe Beck and his traveling circus will have decimated Republican strongholds for us. A wonderful vision.”

    Care to wager? I am willing to put my money where my mouth is, sack up or shut up.

    “You stand up for yourself, alone?
    Then you have no followers.
    Odd that you write as if you have a constituency, you throw names around as if they were fact, and you demean others based on your lonely little life?
    What a quest you’re on…”

    You amuse me I am not lonely. I have a wonderful wife and beautiful baby girl. It is for her that I fight, that is my “quest”.

    “And, as aptly put before, how magnanimous of you.
    You destroy the Earth, and gleefully, too. I don’t agree with Sheryl Crow on a lot of points, but, if you’re against her, I think I should re-evaluate my stand.
    Because you think only 35% of the American public wants the Obama Health Care plan to work?
    Geez…come back to Mother Earth!
    Polling numbers first read that McCain would win against Obama.
    Polling numbers said man could never fly, too.
    Polling numbers said that we should never allow and would never allow mixed racial marriages.”

    Well. I will not dignify that pabulum with an answer. You are a sick little man.

    “So, how come a Cuban like you thinks that we give a rat’s behind what you think, anyway?”

    This US born CITIZEN with Cuban parents knows more about Communism/Socialism/Progressivism than your feeble Godless mind could possibly fathom.

  • http://firstfarmandweatherreport.blogspot.com/ maxwelldog

    puzzle boy
    Reagan? The guy that trained, armed, and supplied bin laden.
    What a hero to look up to. Sells cigarettes to children and then asks them to quit drugs.

    If you have conclusive evidence of something Glenn Beck has said that is patently false or wrong, please proffer them now or lets not cast aspersions without evidence.
    .
    You asked, I answered, but even so, you continue to goosestep behind him. I could do this all day, but, why would I want to?
    Just because I don’t believe in the god of Beck doesn’t mean I’m “godless”…it means I’m intelligent enough to know that he follows a different drummer.
    He’s a self made man, and he praises his maker everyday.
    .
    You have only labels. Then you find snappy little adjectives for your labels.
    Most intelligent debate is done with fact, not innuendo. Something you forgot to learn?
    Don Quixote was also a fighter. Windmills with a lance.
    Cuba for Health Care?
    Duh…the surcharge for leaving the country.
    .
    And as for Obama’s economy?

    It’s really hard to tell if you’re that new here, that stupid, or just naive.
    Bush junior took what he could weasel and ran, like a dog, and is probably sitting around his dark little house, snickering at the turmoil he left behind.
    …and why would I think you’re a bush-backer?
    “Care to wager? I am willing to put my money where my mouth is, sack up or shut up.” because you are willing to gamble your future on a guess, and that’s what he wanted us all to do.
    I’m terribly glad that it didn’t come down the pike like that…
    .
    Your position is made poorly, you use adjectives and adverbs, but no substance.
    The minor points you cite are vague.
    Your opinion of our free country is despicable.
    Swim back home if you think the health care in Cuba is so good.
    We won’t miss you a bit.
    Take your wife and child.

  • eruditeenigma

    Maxie Poo

    You know, I made a New Year’s resolution not to argue with idiots because they inevitably drag you down to their level and inevitably win with their experience. I broke that resolution, and I am now going to re-affirm my commitment to my resolution and disengage.

    Congratulations, you win!

    However, before I go….

    You are a reprobate of the first order and that synaptic maelstrom going on in your feeble mind you pass off as thought does not rise to the scatological leavings of a common sewer rat. You would need to surge through 3 evolutionary steps to reach the usefulness of smear of excrement on a discarded piece of toilet paper in a cesspool.

    How you could think I endorse Cuban Healthcare is STUPID! Your fellow traveler Michael Moore praises its wonders.

    Apparently, you are a narrow-minded racist jerk as well when you say “swim back to Cuba”, as I mentioned before, I am a US Born Citizen there is no “swimming back home”, I am home already!

    Your Bush derangement syndrome forces you to think I am a Bush Fan. I AM NOT. I will say this much for him, he never allowed the polls to dictate foreign policy, a foreign policy your Messiah in Chief is continuing. I am still waiting for that Troop withdrawal from Iraq, closure of GITMO and the end of Rendition.

    I am very certain that your ability to hide behind a computer screen affords you the right to say those things. You would fold like a cheap suit if forced to confront me or anyone else on here personally.

    I have no clue what god you worship, nor do I care, but if it approves of your existence, I am sure it is considering a redo. I only hope you are sterile so that you remain the evolutionary dead end that you are.

  • Ike Jakson

    Joe, are you happy or are you not happy? Pray tell:

    http://ikejakson.wordpress.com/2010/02/27/happy-hour-for-joe/

  • http://firstfarmandweatherreport.blogspot.com/ maxwelldog

    Always with a bucket of adjectives, eh?
    No substance, just descriptive blah.
    OK, well, win what
    Win my right as an American vet?
    not from you do I need that.

    All of anything I stated is from you.
    AND
    I only used the nomenclature learned puzzle because that’s what you were alluding to.
    I don’t like the politics of freeinpa. I call him: freeinpa.
    I don’t like the politics of afguy. I call him:afguy.
    If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it might just be a duck.
    but, I know this…
    There’s no way I can keep up with your wizardry of the English language when it comes to cynicism like you use.

    You need some serious comedy in your life.
    It’ll definitely help. Some Lewis Black, maybe.

  • allnitemike

    Hey Maxwelldog

    Eruditeenigma seems to have your number. Telling a guy to “swim” back to Cuba, Way low class. You might as well have called him a “wetback”.

    Why is it that “liberals or Secular Progressives” like you always pull the race card?

    I thought we were supposed to be past the racial thing. I thought Obama was the post-racial President. Aren’t we past this stuff?

    I don’t know what brand of comedy Eruditeenigma enjoys, but what I can say that I know Lewis Black’s comedy routine and I am thinking you need to learn a lot from Lewis Black if you truly hope to go toe to toe with your friend Eruditeenigma.

    You say you are an American Vet. If I had to guess, I would say you are one of those bitter lib-tard Vietnam Vets that were drafted into service. You know the John Kerry type Vietnam Vet that trashed our Vietnam veterans comparing them to Genghis Khan.

    If you served in any of the Gulf Wars or Afghanistan, I wonder why you felt compelled to serve. I mean we have an all-volunteer armed service there is no draft. May be you signed up hoping to get a college education and you came back screwed up and bitter.

    Either way, I love our Veterans and I hope whatever bitterness you have for our beloved USA goes away. I still love you and thank you for your service to our country despite some of your hostility and hate.

  • http://firstfarmandweatherreport.blogspot.com/ maxwelldog

    the problem may be that you didn’t read all of his ‘rant” because if you had, you would have plainly seen this:
    “If you prefer to live 3rd world style, Move to Cuba, I can exchange you for one of my relatives.”
    …eruditeenigma. Dang. Now there’s a racist, and in its purest form.
    But you didn’t read that part, either, did you?
    His description of Canada sounds like it’s his country to do with as he sees fit and that the people who block the way are people who want to keep it a bit more virgin than his picture.
    And he LOVES the idea of trashing it for soft toilet paper.

    I am a Viet Nam Vet.
    And, I have never “pulled” the race card.
    Why are you putting this claptrap on me, anyway?
    Oh, I see now.
    You’re one of those paint everyone that disagrees with you as a “lib-tard” and oh, how stylish of you.
    And somehow you think that your words don’t reflect hostility and hate?

    Really?
    You don’t “love our veterans” unless they’re on the same side of the aisle as you, and toe to toe is not a problem.

    It is THE problem.
    For some cotton-pickin reason or other, some jackass party for for near thirty years has been doing it’s level best to split this country into two groups. And now that the idea is crumbling, trash talking mice come out of the wood work screaming “mus-lib…dem-tard…obamanation” and expect that to be a conversation?
    Well, buddy boy, I AM a Viet Nam Vet
    AND
    I’m a danged positive minded individual (despite the Republican hold outs)
    AND
    I’m a registered Republican, but for the life of me, I’ve only seen about three of them in office in all these years.
    Ford, Rockefeller, and George Bush senior.

  • allnitemike

    Maxwelldog,

    “the problem may be that you didn’t read all of his ‘rant” because if you had, you would have plainly seen this:
    “If you prefer to live 3rd world style, Move to Cuba, I can exchange you for one of my relatives.”
    …eruditeenigma. Dang. Now there’s a racist, and in its purest form.”

    I did read his “rant” as you put it. I have to say that while I cannot look into his soul. As I feel you cannot either unless you have been granted some special power that most don’t have, but I do not see a racist remark in what he said. There is no mention of race, only politics. He is suggesting that if our capitalist opulence offends you, perhaps you can trade places with his relatives that crave the blessings of freedom, liberty and prosperity that you claim to have fought for as a Veteran and now reject.

    On the other hand, when you use statements like “Swim Back Home” to a US born citizen or even a Naturalized Citizen that has sworn allegiance to this country, I feel is very offensive. Unless you are of Native American Heritage, we are all descendent from immigrants.

  • http://firstfarmandweatherreport.blogspot.com/ maxwelldog

    Look.Dance around this.
    I made my comment, he took it wrong.
    He made his comment, I took it wrong.
    Guess what? A careful look will also reveal that I didn’t know his race before he told me.
    Fact is, I got the impression he was from Oklahoma.
    So, then….
    You come by with accusations and real nasty, contradicting ideologies about loving vets, because they served, and hating vets because they followed a different political thrust…and then a self righteous how-do-you-do:
    “I love our Veterans and I hope whatever bitterness you have for our beloved USA goes away. I still love you and thank you for your service to our country despite some of your hostility and hate.”

    You find some hate and hostility (unwarranted, that is) and think about just how hateful is it? And to whom is it directed? He didn’t have anyone pegged.

    “I don’t know what brand of comedy Eruditeenigma enjoys, but what I can say that I know Lewis Black’s comedy routine and I am thinking you need to learn a lot from Lewis Black if you truly hope to go toe to toe with your friend Eruditeenigma.”

    ?
    I like Lewis Black.

  • allnitemike

    Maxwelldog

    I think I now see why eruditeenigma decided to “disengage” from debating you further.

    I fell into this trap because I thought I should try to make peace between a Veteran and a fellow poster that clearly has some very deep concerns about this county’s direction and has some very good analysis.

    I would agree that he could tone down the $20 words, since I had to look some of them up, but Joe Klein likes to use needlessly complicated verbiage to appear more sophisticated than he truly is. I think you failed to understand the nuances of eruditeenigma’s commentary. His very name “educated mystery” is an additional jab at the pompous musings of Joe Klein and others like him. I have read eruditeenigma’s postings on other blogs and Twitter and I think you and him just have a fundamental disagreement on politics and ideology.

  • http://firstfarmandweatherreport.blogspot.com/ maxwelldog

    well< dang.
    So it is my caustic attitude, huh?

    I take in strays from the road, I do a poetry contest once a week cause the winner gets to ship a care package to a on-line vet (through anysoldier.com)(heck no I can’t afford it) I struggle as best I can, do a couple odd jobs at my church, geez, anybody can ask anything of me and usually my arms and back are into the work before I even ask myself if I should be doing this or that…
    Lost my job because insulation businesses just kept getting bigger and farther away, started painting (and ain’t half bad at it) make usually mid three figure income a year, but I’m danged concerned over stuff going on.

    Found this place and am like a bear in a virgin forest of raspberries and blueberries, Joe Klein did a piece on how folk with a paycheck ARE getting stimulus money…and I was happy, already having a wordpress account…but still, I’ve found just one more guy to piss off.
    Dang.
    Maybe two or four.
    Maybe I’m too plain for this group? Too unsophisticated.

    Besides, I don’t think Miss Palin could eat that much wolf meat by herself, anyway

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