Re: And the Posturing Continues

This round of jockeying seems to have concluded – we now know who’s scheduled to appear at tomorrow’s health care meeting. House Minority Leader John Boehner just announced the Republican members he’ll be bringing. For those of you keeping track, here’s the full list of who’s expected to attend:

(Think Progress says, via Wonkroom, via Twitter, that Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden will also attend and that Republicans will therefore be permitted to bring one additional person.)

Democratic Senators
Harry Reid
Richard Durbin
Max Baucus
Tom Harkin
Christopher Dodd
Chuck Schumer
Patty Murray
Jay Rockefeller
Kent Conrad

Republican Senators

Mitch McConnell
Jon Kyl
Mike Enzi
Chuck Grassley
Lamar Alexander
John McCain
Tom Coburn
John Barrasso

Democratic House members
Nancy Pelosi
Steny Hoyer
James Clyburn
Charles Rangel
Henry Waxman
George Miller
John Dingell
Xavier Becerra
Louise Slaughter
Rob Andrews
Jim Cooper

Republican House members
John Boehner
Eric Cantor
Dave Camp
Joe Barton
John Kline
Charles Boustany
Marsha Blackburn
Peter Roskam
Paul Ryan

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  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Why 11 Democrat House members? I understand that you bring both Speaker and House Majority Leader, but who’s the extra?

  • allthingsinaname

    I guess Max Baucus makes up for only 8 Republican Senators attending

  • bobcn1

    Cage Match!

  • carotexas1

    I guess that real liberal Democratic Senators did not need to be represented?

  • pierogielunaire

    No Michele Bachmann? This is tyranny! Tyranny, I say!

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks so much for the list, Kate Pickert.
    .
    Any ideas why Kent Conrad was chosen to represent the Senate New Democrat Coalition?
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    Also, is there a reason why only former House New Democrat Coalition members (Jims Cooper and Clyburn) are there, and not current members of the centrist bloc?

  • rustyreturns

    How many of those chosen so far are Physicians?
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    No Democrats and just a couple Republicans.
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    Obama’s Bipartisan Health Care Summit: Impartial Moderation? No Doctors? – http://www.texasgopvote.com/blog/obamas-bipartisan-health-care-summit-impartial-moderation-no-doctors-02232 #texasgop
    .
    Barasso and Coburn are Physicians. Why do the Democrats not want any Physicians to respond to health care reform? Is it because all the white lab coats were already given out last year?

  • Matt

    They might need a bigger room if the two camps keep adding more lawmakers to the list.

    An interesting to note that none of the GOP attendees are even close to being considered moderates, unlike the Dem guest list chock-full of Blue Dogs and centrists. Nice show of bipartisanship on the part of the Repubs…

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • rustyreturns

    House physicians include (in alphabetical order):
    Paul Broun (R-Ga.),
    Charles Boustany (R-La.),
    Michael Burgess (R-Tex.),
    Bill Cassidy (R-La.),
    Phil Gingrey (R-Ga),
    Steve Kagen (D-Wisc),
    Jim McDermott (D-Wash.),
    Parker Griffith (D-Ala),
    David “Phil” Roe (R-Tenn.),
    Ron Paul (R, Tex.),
    Tom Price (R-Ga.),
    Vic Snyder(D-Ark.)
    .
    Boustany is the only Physician chosen to attend. From the Republican side of the aisle. Why didn’t the Dems include some of their Physicians?

  • rustyreturns

    John McCain is not a moderate?
    .

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Grassley. Part of the Gang of 6 and thus the token “moderate”. Also present is John “Maverick” McCain who was a “moderate” until 2006 and still seems to call himself a moderate.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Mind you, sending only people who once were moderates but are no longer as their token moderates is a pretty notable sign itself

  • rustyreturns

    See any of these names on the Democrat list, matt?
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    I didn’t think so.
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    Next!!
    .
    Jason Altmire (PA-4)
    Mike Arcuri (NY-24)
    Joe Baca (CA-43)
    John Barrow (GA-12)
    Robert Marion Berry (AR-1)
    Sanford Bishop (GA-2)
    Dan Boren (OK-2)
    Leonard Boswell (IA-3)
    Allen Boyd (FL-2)
    Bobby Bright (AL-2)
    Dennis Cardoza (CA-18)
    Christopher Carney (PA-10)
    Ben Chandler (KY-6)
    Travis Childers (MS-1)
    Jim Cooper (TN-5)
    Jim Costa (CA-20)
    Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
    Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3)
    Lincoln Davis (TN-4)
    Joe Donnelly (IN-2)
    Brad Ellsworth (IN-8)
    Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8)
    Bart Gordon (TN-6)
    Jane Harman (CA-36)
    Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD-AL), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration
    Baron Hill (IN-9), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy
    Tim Holden (PA-17)
    Frank Kratovil (MD-1)
    Betsy Markey (CO-4)
    Jim Marshall (GA-8)
    Jim Matheson (UT-2)
    Mike McIntyre (NC-7)
    Charlie Melancon (LA-3), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications
    Mike Michaud (ME-2)
    Walt Minnick (ID-1)
    Harry Mitchell (AZ-5)
    Dennis Moore (KS-3)
    Patrick Murphy (PA-8)
    Scott Murphy (NY-20)
    Glenn Nye (VA-2)
    Collin Peterson (MN-7)
    Earl Pomeroy (ND-AL)
    Mike Ross (AR-4)
    John Salazar (CO-3)
    Loretta Sanchez (CA-47)
    Adam Schiff (CA-29)
    Kurt Schrader (OR-5)
    David Scott (GA-13)
    Heath Shuler (NC-11), Blue Dog Whip
    Zack Space (OH-18)
    John Tanner (TN-8)
    Gene Taylor (MS-4)
    Mike Thompson (CA-1)
    Charlie Wilson (OH-6)

  • queencersei

    John McCain is not a moderate?

    Depends on the day of the week and the crowd he is speaking to.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    I’ve heard that in the current session of Congress, John McCain is one of the most reliable Republican votes.

  • maverick2k9

    “John McCain is not a moderate?”
    .
    FYI, John McCain is an a-hole.

  • stuartzechman

    Rustydog:
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    Don’t you mean Lord Dr. Charles Boustany (R-La.)?
    .
    link to PDF PDF PDF of London newspaper reporting

    Copyright 1995 Newspaper Publishing PLC
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    The Independent (London)
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    April 28, 1995, Friday
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    HEADLINE: Conmen sold bogus lordship titles to wealthy Americas
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    Wealthy Americans were duped by two conmen into buying forged manorial titles that promised such exclusive rights as a priority on the Queen’s “social list”, the Southwark Crown Court was told yesterday.
    .
    The court heard that more than pounds 85,000 was paid into overseas bank accounts by unsuspecting buyers,
    including an attorney and a pastor, who were fooled by the well-planned swindle. Travel company director Stephanos
    Kollakis
    , 26, of Hillcroft Crescent, Ealing, west London, and Martin Lewis, also 26, of Woodmanstone Road, Carshalton Beeches, Surrey, pleaded guilty to a conspiracy to commit forgery with other persons unknown between October 1992 and April 1993.
    .
    The court was told there were even letters from the firm of bogus solicitors Kollakis and Lewis set up, reassuring prospective buyers of the company’s professional standing and “excellent reputation”. Mr Waine said: “It was a simple scheme, in the sense that it worked on the basis that there are in England titles that can be bought and sold, and that there are people outside England who don’t have such titles but who have the money to buy them.”
    .
    The barrister said the two swindlers even “resurrected” an ancient process called sub-infudation, a system of splitting and increasing the number of titles available which was actually “outlawed” in 1290.

    (and then it seems our litigious Lord sued to recover his swindled title money in Louisiana court)
    .
    link to page 3 of the Boustany lawsuit

    Petitioners discovered the fraudulent acts of Stefanos Kollakes and Martin A. Lewis on or about September 1, 1995 when funds were requested back from defendants, and none were received.
    .
    …conspired with these defendants to provide the sale of a fraudulent title for the sum of EIGHTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND NO/100 ($18,500.00) DOLLARS to the plaintiffs on December 20, 1994.
    .
    WHEREFORE, petitioners pray that after due delays that judgment be rendered herein in favor of petitioners, DR. CHARLES W. BOUSTANY, JR. and BRIDGET EDWARDS BOUSTANY, against defendants STEPHANOS KOLLAKIS, MARTIN ALEXANDER LEWIS

    Yes, it would be absolutely essential to have the litigious purchasers of fraudulent European aristocratic titles present at the Health Care Reform Summit, so that a proponent of “tort reform” can add His Lordship’s input to the process.
    .
    Perhaps His Lordship, Lord Dr. Charles Boustany Jr. might grace the presence of another summit, perhaps on the disturbing transfer of American wealth overseas, next time around.

  • stuartzechman

    What do you mean, “chock-full of Blue Dogs and centrists”?
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    I don’t see that at all.
    .
    Please explain, using documentation.

  • rustyreturns

    stuartzechman:
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    Unlike John Edwards, I don’t think Boustany has any hidden sex tapes that he would not like to have posted on the internet.
    .
    What is your point? That someone like Boustany was duped by a conman?
    .
    Apparently your leftist elite intellectual abilities have prevented you from being taken like a sucker at a local carnival.
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    Unfortnately P.T. Barnum was correct many years ago when he said “There is a sucker born everyday”.
    .
    Here is a link to check out your own ancestry. Perhaps you are a Lord and don’t know it. :D
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    http://www.familytreesearcher.com/mysearch/searches.htm

  • shepherdwong

    “What do you mean, “chock-full of Blue Dogs and centrists”?”
    .
    “Cock-full” is a bit of an exaggeration in my book. Here’s my list:

    Harry Reid
    Max Baucus
    Jay Rockefeller
    Kent Conrad
    Steny Hoyer
    Jim Cooper

    Can’t find any “moderate” Republicans though. Is Chuck Hagel still around?

  • shepherdwong

    One second thought, I doubt any of those guys are “cock-full” unless, perhaps, a little blue pill is involved.

  • nflfoghorn

    Funny how we waited ’til Mr. Toyoda got here to do kabuki theater.

  • apr2563

    Rusty: You don’t think that Boustany trying to purchase a royal title might hint at a little elitism? You can always be counted on to mindlessly throw out your usual catch phrases.
    And, what has John Edward got to do with the topic? That’s like saying at least Boustany hasn’t orchestrated a break-in at the Watergate. Huh?

  • grape_crush

    I doubt any of those guys are “cock-full”…
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    I’m going with my better judgment and will pass on that set-up for a possibly offensive attempt at humor.

  • deconstructiva

    I’ll go for it. Why didn’t the R’s invite Ensign? Then again, he wouldn’t be “full”; he’d have been emptied, several times. But hey, he didn’t pull out of his affair so cowardly; he stood behind his mistress. Vitter was probably well pampered too. Kate, any word on why Ensign wasn’t allowed to come too?

  • textee

    Looks like the Democrats selected only old, white males with room for only a couple of old, white females. It shouldn’t be long before the Democrat party base demands quotas for skin color, sex, sexual preference, and on and on and ….

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