Paging Dr. Laura

Will the new “job’s bill” (without any Republican input yet again), have a clause from good ‘ol Harry to require the Unemployment Office to buy each male without a job a new puppy?
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I hear that a new puppy will keep many males from beating up their wives or girlfriends.

Did Obama Lie About ACORN?- Watch more Politics Videos at Vodpod.
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I love video day. Acorn anyone?

Is Harry telling us he plans to beat us physically when he loses his job in November?

A sweet little”kitty” works wonders also!

As long as it’s video day — KT, what do you think about Rush Limbaugh saying health care reform is really a redistributive “civil rights bill” and “reparations” for African Americans?
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/02/rush_limbaugh_health-care_refo.html

What do I think? I find it completely unsurprising that Rush Limbaugh would say that.

He’s saying it wrong, but I do think he has a point. Because men have been conditioned to see themselves as the breadwinners, I do think unemployment is harder on their self esteem.

Simple answers to simple questions, I suppose. Fair enough.
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Seriously, though, how extremist does Limbaugh have to go before the Republicans who regularly kiss his ring are asked by the media whether or not they agree with him?

Where is the lie? He didn’t say he didn’t know ACORN; he said he wasn’t aware of how much government money they received. Why would he? The senate clips say they were a big part of his voter registration drive. I don’t see a contradiction.

This really is a male-based recession. The unemployment/underemployment rate among males is a lot higher than it is among females. I don’t know why you would try to make a big deal out of this.
Republicans are going around saying that handicapped kids are God’s tool to inflict punishment on the world and that health care reform is a way to stick it to whitey for slavery and yet Reid saying something that is true will carry the conversation.

What Reid is inartfully saying is true and is not an indictment of men. It is however, a sad reality that can happen to men and women, but more so in men.

Reid will underline, heavily, several four-letter words in his daily journal if this happens.

Hmmmmm…. So what a lot of hard right feminists have suggested all these years is true. Men are violent and acts like Gorillas?? GASP!! << J/k Hahahahaha What a pile of crock.

I am sure Reid regrets the broad and sweeping analysis of unemployed men.

So in the same vein, what do unemployed women do?? Eat, cry and are somewhat abusive too?? Wow… silly stuff.

Which brings me to my last rhetorical question. Is a Mistress employed? Ha

Ok, ok, just having a bit of fun here this morning. Now where is my dratted coffee.

LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/stalking-criminality-the-law-and-women/

pafro,
“Republicans are going around saying that handicapped kids are God’s tool to inflict punishment on the world and that health care reform is a way to stick it to whitey for slavery and yet Reid saying something that is true will carry the conversation”.
To make a statement like this is pure ignorance. To say that these two comments by two individuals are what Republicans are saying is an insane comment.
If you ever want to win a discussion you must do it using the truth. In case you don’t know how to determine what truth is the following is how our court system defines it.
1. It must be true.
2. It must be the whole truth. [Not statements or video clips out of context]
3. It must be nothing but the truth. [No BS to try and justify an untruth]
If it doesn’t meet all three of these criteria it is in Fact a Lie.
The statement in your post is a lie and does nothing to add to any discussion. It only distorts the discussion.

..it seems like a pretty broad indictment of unemployed men.

That’s a pretty un-charitable interpretation of Reid’s remarks, Karen. If you look around, you can find examples where being employed – not just receiving welfare – has resulted in a decrease in domestic violence, kids do better in school, etc.:

Children benefited from the new welfare rules and incentives as well. A smaller percentage of poor children in the experimental group struggled in school, seven percent versus 12 percent, and their parents’ perception of their overall behavior also improved…Domestic violence also fell. During the study, 60 percent of the parents who stayed in [traditional welfare program] AFDC were victims of domestic violence. Those in the [work + welfare] experimental program saw an 18 percent reduction.

http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=14028

Suprising that you would buy into the right-wing spin.

I hesitate to defend Limbaugh (I have issues with people who call 13 year old girls “dogs”), but Obama has made the same point. When asked about helping blacks on the campaign trail, he specifically pointed to welfare state expansion as a means to disproportionately help black people.
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I think it’s pretty clear that there is a fair amount of redistribution going on in Obamacare, and many many Dems think that healthcare is a civil right.
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I think if you’re going to dismiss Limbaugh as an extremist, you have to criticize Obama for saying basically the same thing.

Guys, I thought that stereotypes based on immutable characteristics were per se wrong. Silly me. IOKIYAAD.
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That Reid has some statistical support doesn’t mean that his comments aren’t offensive. People probably feel bad enough that they’re out of a job, and classy Reid piles on. What a guy.

“When asked about helping blacks on the campaign trail, he specifically pointed to welfare state expansion as a means to disproportionately help black people.”

Would you have a link for that, please.

Not suprised that you would buy into the right-wing spin. Y’all are just pis$ed at how Reid framed it; vote for the jobs bill or you’re enabling domestic violence.

Sorry you are dense.
This entire thread is about what one solitary person said about unemployed males being more likely to resort to violence. That statement happens to be a truthful one.
[disclosure, I spent a portion of the last year unemployed, and while I did not ever strike another human being, I did find solace in splitting wood]
At the meantime, a solitary Republican said that handicapped kids are a punishment rained on mankind from God. Mostly crickets out of our media.
Another solitary republican said that health care reform was black people’s way of stealing your lunch money. Time reporters are not surprised, yet they are not calling up the usual suspects to see if they support their leaders contention that health care reform is payback for past racial transgressions.
Another solitary Republican said he supported that airplane-flying terrorist because he also wanted to destroy the IRS.
I did figure out one thing though, it appears that at some point last night that the wingers started to manufacture outrage about what Harry Reid said and it took a couple of hours for it to make it to Time. Color. Me. Surprised. I just saw MSNBC is now going to cover the manufactured story in couple minutes as well.
Meanwhile, I bet extremist Republican Steve King has issued a call to kill more IRS employees and it won’t get the press it deserves.

not mad, just amazed that this guy is a senate majority leader . . . .

Yeah, I’d love to see that link too.
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Especially because the last stats I saw for AFDC showed there were more whites receiving welfare than there were blacks.

Obama has made the same point. When asked about helping blacks on the campaign trail, he specifically pointed to welfare state expansion as a means to disproportionately help black people.
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I am unfamilar with this statement. Would you please site your reference?

pnnto, my memory’s pretty god, and im not going to chase down this stuff . . . . obama was specifically asked about helping blacks and his stock answer was that his plans would help minorities more because more of them needed help.
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since there are far more whites in this country, it’s not surprising that on absolute terms, there are more whites on the dole–the issue isn’t absolute numbers–god, the ignorance is stunning.

Thanks for the reposnse spob. I was kind of expecting that.

lol – me too, except for what probably are completely different reasons.

kevin:
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Just like TIME.com uses tabloid journalism, Limbaugh too understands how good it is for his bottom line when he is also dramatic and utilizes his flamboyance to get especially liberals all up in a roar.
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Thanks for responding to Rush and his ability to make liberals look like loons.

Of course you would tjoyce. As you continue to wear the rose colored glasses. Perhaps you should take them off once in awhile.

kbang,
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He’ll write us a collective “sternly-worded letter”…
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He’s really good at those.

Shorter spob: “Bluff called… I fold. Pot’s yours.”

@pafro –
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You’re a bit off on judicial standards of “truth.” The phrase you quoted (which I’m sure almost everyone has heard) is an oath administered to witnesses, and it’s by no means the only oath used. Most state laws require no more than “an oath or affirmation” and do not prescribe the form.
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As for what’s perjury, a witness is under no obligation to tell “the whole truth.” As long as an answer is literally true, or based on the witness’s good-faith understanding of the question, it isn’t perjury. The only reason Clinton’s denial of having sex with “that woman” became perjury when he was under oath was because he’d been told that the definition of “sexual relations” used in the question included more than the missionary position, specifically including hummers. Otherwise, if he believed in good faith that sexual relations required genital-to-genital contact, he could have honestly denied that he and Monica had any.
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Is it true or false that the Earth is a sphere? Is it true or false that Beethoven was a great composer? Is it true or false that Mexico City is the most populous city in the world? There has been a lawsuit in Washington State claiming that Seattle was the actual capital of the state; the plaintiff had some pretty good arguments. But was his position “true”? (Hint: he lost.)
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I love simple answers to simple questions as much as the next person. But Pilate wasn’t the only person to wonder “What is truth?”

Oh, you remember it that way and we should all just take your word? Because of your sterling record for accuracy?
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OK, then.

Karen, my problem with the press shrugging off the hateful remarks coming from every direction in support of the right wing is that it misses the dangerous, nihilistic character of the invective.
When Move On did the Betrayus bit, the press bought into the right wing hysteria. It has even bought into the false claim that Move On sponsored an ad comparing Bush to Hitler. Never happened. Too often the press just repeats what the right wing throws out. What sticks sticks, what doesn’t, well the damage has already been done.
I know the press can’t do the job that the Dems should be doing to counteract the right wing lies, but they should not help promote them or just shrug them off. People like Limbaugh are more than entertainers. They are political activists. And comparing them, as Michael did earlier, to progressive voices is ridiculous. That is like comparing a cruise ship with a rowboat.

I hope Karen you are being facetious about Dr. Laura, the right wing heroine. This is the woman who finds women most often to be responsible for family dysfunction. Until recent scandals may have tempered her rhetoric, she would have implied somehow it was the wife’s responsibility if her husband became abusive.
Besides, statistics prove Sen. Reid concern is correct. Isn’t this something we should be addressing?

apr: *irony*

oh give me a break . . . .
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Obama dealt with the how will you advance black agenda question by rigorously sticking to the story that his policies would advance the agenda of african americans by helping the poor. He linked the civil rights issue with the “investment issue” in his speech on race, for example.
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i dont have the time to sort through a million google hits.
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and kevin, name one inaccurate post of mine. one.
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and, sfb, citing the absolute numbers of welfare recipients to rebut an issue of disproportionality is beyond stupid. get that right, dimwit.

Karen: Whew!