Paging Sarah Palin

It is statements like this one from folks considered mainstream within the GOP that will always keep a segment of the electoral population away from the party. You just don’t day stuff like this if you are a normal human being.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

…and the trolls wonder why we think their party is insane.

Alright, let me try to take a crack at this:
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All life is precious
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God values all life
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So if you abort a child, God will curse your next child with a disability to punish you.
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‘Cause God values all life so much that he will hinder the development of a life.
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So God values all life unless he wants to make a point about valuing all life?
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Am I missing something here?

I wouldn’t be concerned. I’m sure that Bob Marshall was using satire like Limbaugh was using satire…

When will people learn that proclaiming “god’s punishment” on a certain demographic of the population never turns out well? Apology statement in 4, 3, 2, 1……

If a cartoon get’s a rise of Sarah, and this doesn’t, she might as well hang up any pittance of credibility she has left.

So Karen, I’m wondering if some of the recent news about Sarah Palin’s lack of credibility with her apparent base – republicans and conservatives, if not tea partiers – gives you any reason to reconsider some of the conclusions you drew from Scott Brown’s election.

I know at the time you said you’d talked to a lot of people in Massachusetts and that there was widespread anger that you thought was going to be transferable to other states (at least I think I know that; I haven’t gone back to look up what you said). I still know that I would have had to hold my nose to vote for Martha Coakley if I were in Massachusetts, and that Scott Brown sounded so reasonable – so much more reasonable than he’s been sounding in the last week or two – that I wonder if he didn’t win because a lot of his his fellow citizens thought he sounded like a gracious and moderate guy. (Whatever Martha Coakley sounded like, it wasn’t gracious)

On the one hand I’m not unhappy to have Republicans overinterpret this result, but on the other hand the Democrats still have no spine so it’s probably irrelevant if it’s misread.

This is sort of on topic because I’m having a hard time seeing how the loony fringe is going to help the Republicans take control of Congress again. I think Scott Brown was an accident. And since even T-Paw is sounding sort of fringy I think the Republicans are about to follow themselves off a cliff.

There is some fringe to this anger, but there’s also a lot of anger among more mainstream Americans, especially independents.
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On that score, I highly recommend my colleague David Von Drehle’s story about the Tea Partiers:
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100219/us_time/08599196490300

Since Bob Marshall considers disabilities to be form of punishment from God, you’re missing the fact that this idiot’s statement implies that God is wiling to effectively punish an innocent child just to get back at his/her mother. Not sure where that fits with the whole Christian ideal of God being a god of love, but Marshall’s absurd logic reminded me of saying I heard many years ago that illustrates how easily logic can be manipulated into a perverse state when it comes to religion:
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“God is love-
Love is blind -
Steve Wonder is blind -
Stevie Wonder is God!”
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For the 1st time ever, I hope that Palin comes out with both guns blazin’

To be fair he also believes that if you keep making that face god will freeze it so it sticks like that.

Thanks. will read.

No apology needed. You see, dunedweller, it all depends on who is talking and who is the subject. From Marshall, a Christian conservative, it’s OK. Even when Bill O’Reilly said that Jamie Lynn Spears’ pregnancy showed poor parenting, and later said that Bristol Palin’s pregnancy was a personal matter and the mean liberals should lay off, that’s OK too.
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Now understand:
Pat Robertson saying that Katrina was God’s punishment for legalized abortion or Hagee says it was God’s retribution for gay pride parades. -OK
Hagee’s claim that 9/11 happened for tolerating gays, feminists and the ACLU. -OK
Rev Wright claiming God damned America because of the wanton killing of innocents overseas. Definitely not OK.
Got it?
Bob Marshall should be fine.

They also said that if you masturbate that God would make you go blind. So why doesn’t everybody have a white cane?

I’m just waiting for the Almighty’s punishment for those men who say stupid stuff like this. Permanant priapism, anyone?

I stopped when I found out I needed glasses.

If you have an erection that lasts for more than 4 hours….tell your wife to call in sick for work.

It was a pretty retarded thing to say.

I’ll just have to claim that sometimes the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. It would be sooooo jealous.

If that happens I’ll shout it from the rooftop. My neigbors’ wives will call in sick.

At the risk of offending the High Sheriffs…
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NSFW!!

KT – have read Von Drehle’s article and find I knew most of this stuff in a general way. In fact, in a general way I share much of the anger at the inability to get things done. But it still intrigues me that anyone would think the solution was to send more hyperpartisans to Washington. Perhaps the Democrats are in more trouble just because there are more of them. But I think it’s simple lunacy to think that sending J.D. Hayworth to Washington is going to be an improvement on John McCain in terms of reigning in spending and reducing government. Oh well – it will be an interesting election cycle.

And yes, I can’t wait to hear what Sarah Palin will say about this, if anybody can manage to ask her. She does seem to know enough not to put herself in a position where she might get asked stuff like this.

Take a number, handicappers.
Glenn Beck said me and others like me are a cancer to be eradicated, and very few people are commenting about his call for murder and Jihad.
Rather, they are talking about how Beck claimed the Republican/Bush years weren’t conservative, which parrots something that a hundred other white-washing, big name conservatives have said in the past year.

Dear Bob Marshall,

Shut up. That was an ignorant thing thing to say and you’re making yourself look foolish. Parents of disabled children may be looking to God for the strength and hope that their religion can provide. The last thing they need is for @ssholes like you to tell them that God has turned against them. Please wear black and run around in the traffic at night. Do something useful.

Your friend, Sacredh

kbang, 2thirds & sacredh,
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Thanks – ya made my afternoon with this…

Because sacredh, they updated that saying, now God kills a kitten. Which is why Bob Barker is out of a job.

yogi, if that was true, there shouldn’t be a cat left on the planet.

Karen, Karen, Karen

Have you nothing better to do than write a garbage story like this. Each party has it’s share of idiots. Why do you always write a story about Republicans idiots but never about Democratic idiots?
There are so many important things going on in the world, can’t you resist your temptation to try your best to make Republicans look bad by featuring idiots like this.
Karen it in insane to write a ridicules story like this. On a scale of 1 – 10 it is of 0 importances. That is unless your only mission in life is to make conservatives look bad.
You need to get a life. This article is utterly ridicules.
Karen, I’m disappointed in you.

There’s a cool blog handling the Palin’s Q&A.
When will she meet the press? Face the nation?

http://palinquestions.blogspot.com

Karen – ignore 3xfire3 and keep on exposing idiots like Marshall. I don’t care if they are Democrats or Republicans – any PUBLIC OFFICIAL who would make such a ridiculous and callous statement needs to be outed so that voters know who and WHAT they’ve elected to speak for them.

3xfire3 – there is this thing commonly called “the 4th branch of government” that is actually useful, such as in cases as this one, for exposing the views of politicians. If he were a Democrat, wouldn’t you want to see this idiot exposed for this stupid statement?

3xfire3,
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Give us one instance of a Democrat citing God’s wrath as the major contributing factor to a child’s disability.
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I’m sure we’ll all be thrilled with your report.

The word of the LORD came to me: What do you mean by repeating this proverb concerning the land of Israel, “The parents have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”? As I live, says the Lord GOD, this proverb shall no more be used by you in Israel. Know that all lives are mine; the life of the parent as well as the life of the child is mine: it is only the person who sins that shall die. – Exekiel 18:1-4.
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For those of you scoring at home, this is in the Old Testament, that favorite preserve of the Religious Right, and even here the child is expressly spared punishment for the sins of a parent. Marshall might want to actually read the book he’s hiding behind . . . oh, heck, that’s just crazy talk. Never mind.

So, Mr. Marshall, your momma must have had several abortions prior to your full birth.

As a sign of how completely YOU GUYS have corrupted me… (yeah, that’s my excuse, and I’m sticking to it)
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On the way home tonight, after watching that Cialis Spoof, all that kept running through my mind was the 2nd part of the first line from the Jan & Dean song “Surf City”.
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You know where I’m going with this, don’t you…?
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I just kept thinking, “There HAS to be a Cialis commercial in there somewhere – HAS TO BE.”
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If there’s a humor “god” anywhere, someone will take that and run with it.

Why do you always write a story about Republicans idiots but never about Democratic idiots?
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3x,
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OMG – an explicit admission that there ARE GOP “idiots”.
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There may be hope for you yet.

Ftw.
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She must have consorted with animals, burned a Bible, been a thief, had many other gods, coveted her neighbor’s ass, lied, taken his name in vain, disrespected her mom and dad, killed, borne false witness, cheated, not paid her cable bill and made pirate copies of dvds too.

sacredh,
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You’re better entertainment than cheap drugs, I swear…

sacredh, you forgot that she was a lesbian.

And a secular-humanist loony librul, to boot.
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Bingo! I get another hundred years in Purgatory.

afguy: If Cialis wants to expand their market, they should do a commercial with some overweight guy with a hairy beer gut sitting on a couch wearing boxers, a wife beater t-shirt, drinking a 40 ouncer right out of the bottle, eating pizza from a box and play The Vapors’ “Turning Japanese” in the background. The moments don’t get any more special than that.
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OK. I ran with it.

Evening, Friar!
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How are you gonna spend that extra 100 years?

Friar Tuck, save me a seat in Purgatory (in case I make a pit stop). I might not get you into Heaven, but I’ll keep you laughing. What’s a hundred years among friends?

afguy –
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Contemplating the other 1.6 million years I’ve already racked up. I sure hope I can get Hulu there.

First of all, KT, is he even right? I wasn’t aware that abortions were associated with, let alone causative of, birth defects in later pregnancies.
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Second of all, this is a nice little game you have–pick some lunatic comment from someone and require some major person to comment on it. The guy obviously has issues.
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Third of all, since we’re playing this game, why don’t we play it with some Dem nitwit with a little more juice and actual support from major players within the party–let’s say, Alexi Giannoulias–here’s a choice quote:
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“‘I know the criteria financial institutions look at when they decided whether or not to approve a loan,’ Giannoulias said, “It’s the credit-worthiness of a borrower. Is the value of a property enough? The income from the business? Their ability to repay a loan? It doesn’t look at criminal background checks. The credit worthiness is: If this person is buying a hardware store, have they ever owned another hardware store? Is their credit 800 versus 400 or 500?’”
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What does Dick Durbin (Alexi’s campaign manager) think about this? What does Barack Obama, who has railed against fat cat bankers (and Giannoulias certainly qualifies there, since lots of money came out of his bank in dividends–even while it was failing), think about this?
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In case the abject stupidity of this quote doesn’t jump out at you, usually a criminal conviction does impact creditworthiness, and second, KYC (Know Your Customer) rules do require banks to conduct diligence along those lines. (Keep in mind Alexi was CFO of the bank.)
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Or we can go to the Martha Coakley example. Martha Coakley, in spite of all the evidence, said in her campaign that the evidence against the Amiraults was “formidable”. Paging Barack Obama . . . . and by the by Obama made criminal justice a significant issue during his campaign, so his viewpoint on the issue is especially germane.

“You’re better entertainment than cheap drugs…”
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I haven’t cried like this since grandma finally realized that pulling my pants down and spanking me wasn’t punishment.

Friar Tuck,
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I wasn’t sure if you were allowed to have a little fun while waiting… maybe a complementary week’s stay at the Playboy Mansion, for example?
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Hulu should be a given, or at least enhanced cable.
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On second thought, trying to get through to Comcast Customer Support is a special “Purgatory” in and of itself.
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That would be just additional punishment…

Or KT, how about we page John Kerry, Barack Obama, Kirsten Gillibrand and all the other Dem elected officials who sent mash notes to Markos Moulitsas (and who have posted stuff on the dKos website) on Moulitsas’ “Screw ‘em” comment? I don’t recall any pages on that issue.
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Or while we’re at it, we can wonder why we didn’t page Obama (who, after all, wants to lead a national conversation on race) on this particularly ugly comment by a Dem Congresswoman:
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25597.html

…so his viewpoint on the issue is especially germane.
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Didn’t know either Obama or his “viewpoint” were German… thought he was supposed to be Kenyan.

uh-oh, afguy, are you a birfer?

I’ll take the first circle of hell which is supposedly pretty much heaven only without God and without a pit stop in purgatory.

Nah,
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That’s just the story I’ve seen pushed by the other side.
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Me, I’m square with his birthplace being in Hawaii. Wouldn’t mind being able to claim that myself.

Sounds like the blue states to me. Sign me up.

Everyone keeps mentioning “pit stops”…
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Is there a prostate issue I need to be made aware of there?

Just a quick note: we’ve heard of damage caused to the Uterus caused by abortions before to the point that it can render some women unable to carry children later on. Not entirely shocking and I don’t feel it’s that significant a logical leap to imagine that the stats he claims are accurate.
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That said, there’s a lot of questions in his claims and it seems to me that birth defects are increasing in general for women of all stripes, not just those with abortions – in part due to families being started later in life and possibly in part due to degrading environmental conditions. I can’t remember which defect it is (either Autism or Down) but when my mom was pregnant with me, the going rate was 1:200 chance of getting it while the numbers cited these days peg that closer to 1:150.

Ik312,

This guy is not even an elected official. He is a state delegate. This type of story makes no sense to intelligent people only an ideology.
You like Karen need to get a life.

spob, me thinks thou doth protest too much. This is your guy. You own him, like it or not. He is a fool clown, and all of your paging won’t matter one bit. But it is encouraging that even you seem to recognize that.

afguy: No. Pit stops and Purgatory are just euphemisms. It’s like saying hemorrhoids are just speedbumps on the highway of love.

Hardly.

Spob,
You have very valid points. To write an article about an idiot who is not even an elected official and is only a state delegate is absolute stupidity. No Time reporter would ever do this about a Democrat state delegate. I sure expected more than that from Karen. She’s going down hill fast.

formerly,
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I told 3xfire3 that it was a step in the right direction that HE was able to call him an “idiot” himself.
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It’s the ones that can’t bring themselves to even declare one of their own “out of line”, except in the most generic of terms, that are the hardest to reach.
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What’s happening right now is like a collegiate “pass interference” penalty. Getting beat by events? Tackle or beat up on the opponent so he doesn’t get anything out of what’s happening either, even if it SHOULD BE to his advantage.

But, 3x, YOU said he was an “idiot”. Is it your position NOW that he’s only a lower-ranking “idiot”, so he really doesn’t count?
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He’s a delegate – about as pure GOP as you can get.
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Formerly’s right – you own him, like it or not. He’s not some sort of mutant GOP – he’s mainstream.

Really? You think those are remotely close in terms of scale to Marshall’s comment?

This no different than jumping on Cindy Sheehan, ACORN, Code Pink or any other fringe. None of those are elected officals either but it has never stopped the right from harping about them. What they say or allegedly do is pretty fair game. When a person or group makes the news it’s going to get reported and commented upon.

Guys, if the game is that news journos pick lunatic comments by not even back benchers and call on players to comment, then it should be the same for both parties.
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But that’s not what happens. Best example I can think of–Al Sharpton sharing a stage in the Dem Presidential debates. Al Sharpton, need I remind all of the enlightened in here, called the Central Park Jogger, a white rape victim, a “whore”. Were Dems, who shared a stage with this cretin, to use KT’s words “paged”? Uh no.
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So guys, perhaps you can explain why a “page” is legit here, but no so legit with the Reverend Al. Perhaps KT can answer that question.

uh, sacred, with ACORN, there are tapes with Obama praising them . . . . perhaps you missed that.

FT: Bob Marshall was only correcting mistakes that God made in his speeches. It’s his job.

3x,
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What you just did is what we find so fascinating about the GOP. You violated the 11th Commandment and criticized a fellow tribe member, even though your critique was true.
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NOW, you are backtracking as fast as your 71-year old legs will carry you.
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The truth really doesn’t matter in your party, does it? It’s ALL about tribal loyalty.
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It’s how snakes like Mark Sanford or David Vitter can STILL hold on to their seats, after what they did.
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How does the GOP find the chutzpah to even make the attempt to lay claim to the moral high ground?

Keep flailing, spob.
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We understand the tactic. NEVER criticize another conservative. Find someone else to criticize from the other side in an attempt to level the playing field.
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Tribal loyalty trumps all other considerations, even the truth.

spob, no I didn’t miss that. How many people work for ACORN and how many have been charged/convicted of a crime? Abramoff was a regular visitor to the White House when the republicans were in there. That doesn’t mean that GWB had him there to take bribe money.

This guy is not even an elected official. He is a state delegate.
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No, he is an elected official. In Virginia, the lower house of the state legislature is the “House of Delegates.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_House_of_Delegates

Are you seriously comparing a statement about credit worthiness to a claim that special needs children are a punishment from God to women who have an abortion? Seriously?!?
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Does everything have to be “Democrats are just as bad” with you? Can’t you just say, yes, this guy is a moron?

To write an article about an idiot who is not even an elected official and is only a state delegate is absolute stupidity
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Before you keep spouting off about the stupidity of others, you might want to know that a “state delegate” in Virginia is a “state representative.” He *is* an elected official.
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The Virginia House of Delegates is the lower house of the Virginia General Assembly. It has 100 members elected for terms of two years; unlike most states, these elections take place during odd-numbered years.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_House_of_Delegates

Thanks for that info Kevin, but it isn’t going to matter. He’s not an IMPORTANT elected official. You know, one that doesn’t say really stupid things.

Does everything have to be “Democrats are just as bad” with you? Can’t you just say, yes, this guy is a moron?
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kevin: Um, no, he really can’t.
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Thus concludes another episode of “Simple Answers to Simply Questions”.

State legislatures are where the stupidity shines, regardless of party.

I agree. It’s the D-Leagues of politics. Every once in a while a truly stupid one breaks through and gets sent to Washington, but thankfully the real boneheads get to stay home and f**k things up there.

Guys,
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Mark what you are seeing here. spob is about as good an example of the GOP mindset as you’re going to find – pure tribalness in all its clarity.
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He cannot criticize another conservative. And the first “instinct” is to “protect” fellow cons – AT ALL COST. Then, attack the other side for ANYTHING you can find. Doesn’t matter if it’s comparable – ANYTHING will do.
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David Vitter and Mark Sanford are perfect examples of the tribal characteristic in action.
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Vitter was found to have frequented prostitutes – he was applauded for his refusal to resign.
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Mark Sanford hiked the “Trail” and was roundly criticized – until time for him to be punished by his peers. Then, they couldn’t bring themselves to actually do anything punitive.
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Now you have that clown from VA and his comments.
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Honestly, if the present Dem leadership can’t find a way to run quality candidates and win, with sleaze like that as the backdrop, then they deserve to be thrown out with the garbage.

Afguy,
If you ever actually read my posts you would know that I have never said Republicans are always right and Liberals are always wrong.
I have good discussions with Stuart who is very liberal. We often do not agree but we are respectful of each others opinions. In reality we both want what is best for our country and its citizens. We just have different views on how to achieve these goals.
If you ever showed respect you would get it in return. Neither liberals nor conservatives are evil. They only have different ideas as to what is the best way to help people.
Because I disagree with the views of liberals does not mean I dislike them personally.
I believe in a free country we all have a right to our views and opinions.
That is a point of why I enjoy discussing my views with people like Stuart. They are opened minded enough to listen to others views and then make up their own minds. They don’t consider it a personal attack when someone disagrees with their views. That’s the way it should be. Don’t take my disagreements with liberal views personal. They are not meant to be personal except on occasions when out of frustration to the closed minded comments of others I respond in kind. Show respect and you will get respect.

3xfire3, I am not sure how you got off on afguy, but I will say that he is one of the most courteous posters I have seen. sz is as well, but perhaps you have not noticed that sz while maintaining a courteous demeanor brutally demolishes all conservatives as well as centrists with a smile. You haven’t noticed that?

So I’m not the only one who has noticed that?

I try to be a little courteous too but sometimes it just doesn’t pan out.

afguy: You’re not going to believe this…but THAT thread is still going. He was back on it this morning. This is just too funny.

Kevin – thanks for the reply while I was away.

3xfire3 – Actually, I have a life – and a far better knowledge of our political system (and just about any other out there) than you could ever dream of having.

P.S. The list of my relatives who have served in the legislature of the Commonwealth of VA is quite long and historic, which is why I hate to see idiots like Marshall denigrate it with their religious hypocrisy.

This can be added to the SC Republican Lt. Gov. who wants to stop feeding poor children because they just breed.
http://www.lavidalocavore.org/diary/3153/hungry-kids-are-like-stray-animals-says-sc-lt-gov
Why can’t the people on the right just say this and the birth defect statement are disgusting? Don’t try to justify them by digging up some strawmen.

Maybe there’s a movie to be made there… “Return of the Zombie Poster – The Undead Thread”

formerly: ‘sawright… I recognize defensive behavior when I see it. He really doesn’t like the “pushback”.
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Us so-called liberal cretins/embeciles/pinheads aren’t supposed to have a backbone.
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After watching the Senate recently, though, can you blame anyone for thinking that?

formerlyjames,
“but perhaps you have not noticed that sz while maintaining a courteous demeanor brutally demolishes all conservatives as well as centrists with a smile. You haven’t noticed that”?
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What I have noticed is that Staurt almost always uses facts in his posts. Through facts he win his share of the discussions, loses some and some are a draw. Win or lose he does it through thoughtful discusssion. He doesn’t use name calling and demonizing. That’s the way it should be. He is a least opened minded enough to listen to what other people have to say and doesn’t consider them evil if they have a different view then he does.
That’s the problem I have with many [not all] liberals. If a person doesn’t agree with them they consider them evil and call them names and demonize them. They don’t seem to understand that good people can have a different opinion then them. Afguy is a good example of this type of person.
If a person doesn’t believe in liberal ideas, it should not be a reason for personal attacks. It’s OK to passionately argrue about policy differences. Using personal attackes is always wrong.
Just because a conservative disagrees with Presodent Obama’s liberal policies doesn’t make them evil or a racist. I do not like his policies but I do not dislike him personally. When he was elected I was proud of the fact that only in America could a minority person be elected as President. In Liberal Europe this has never happened. We live in a great country. Not perfect but great.

Wow, he was in a really bad mood when he made those remarks or maybe he is just a sadistic miserable clown. How awful.

The Christian God is not a GOD that punishes children.
Hmmmmm however, in the case of adults like Bob Marshall, he might make an exception and make him slow in mind. Opps, I think he already did– look at the sort of drivel Marshall spouts.

Onyeara<<<

LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/stalking-criminality-the-law-and-women/

God made all his children with their own special gifts and talents. It is obvious that Bob Marshal’s special talent is stupidity.

Ok, 3x, one LAST TIME… these are your words from a previous thread, addressed to ME.

You deserve an Oscar for your past performances on this site. Having read many of your posts, you come across as a typical closed minded Liberal believing everything that conservatives do is evil. Now you say you are a conservative. You certainly had me fooled.
Again congratulations on the Oscar.

Now, your present position is that you are just a misunderstood soul who came here for a little innocent conversation and have been abused by the liberals here. And you haven’t a clue WHAT you could have done to deserve that…
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Now this is what you said above:

He is a least opened minded enough to listen to what other people have to say and doesn’t consider them evil if they have a different view then he does.

See a confict about what you wan to see from us and what you have been doing yourself?.
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Now… go back and READ YOUR OWN WORDS over the past couple of weeks. Then, take this “I never said or implied ALL Liberals were bad” meme and “can” it. Put the “chip on your shoulder” and “pity party” about being picked on on the same shelf.
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If you want to come here and honestly talk to/with us and share your ideas, we are ALL ears. I disagree with with apollyon07 frequently, but I’m also one of her biggest fans. I think I’d marry her right now…
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We interact with each other here with humor and logic and, by and large, we remain civil. But… the difference between here and the US Senate is that the so-called liberals here are NOT afraid to fight back, and we will often do it with both feet.
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I am willing to wipe the slate clean and start over with you, but here’s the warning: I have NO patience with pity parties or a persecution complex as your main line of defense. And ZERO patience with an “But I NEVER said that..” when the evidence is everywhere that you have.
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You belive in conservatism – fair enough. As I told you, I have conservative beliefs too. I am conservative Christian, and m main beef is with those who profess to be the same but don’t “walk the walk” My great uncle founded one of the more conservative colleges in TN.
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However, I can interact quite well with those here who are atheist and don’t share my beliefs. NO ONE is monolithically liberal or conservative if they REALLY want this country to thrive.
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OK, having said that, welcome to the Swamp, 3xfire3 and we DO welcome your views.

Shorter me: we’re more Alan Grayson here in the Swamp than Harry Reid.

Kevin said: “State legislatures are where the stupidity shines, regardless of party.”

True and they are the breeding ground for the very boobs that end up in the US House and Senate. That is why it is important to know what some of their vocal ilk are spouting.

spboob might know about that.

Ah, so well said Chief Advocate. I have always known you had a heart of Gold.

LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/stalking-criminality-the-law-and-women/

afguy,
And you donot like the truth.

And you, sir, are clinging to the only version of the “truth” you want to hear.
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That which already confirms your opinions and makes you feel good about yourself and your existing prejudices about liberalism and the others not like you or the tribe to which you belong.
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You’re not worth the trouble trying to convince to any more. Your mind is closed.
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Good day.

Afguy,
My post in 21.24 was in response to your earlier post 21.19 not your post 21.21.
I disagree with most of what you said in 21.21 but I feel it is a non starter to debate each point.
I agree. Let’s wipe the slat clean and show some respect to each other. As I said earlier Stuart and I have managed to do this and it has worked pretty well.
The one point I will make is let’s debate policies and views not get personal. You seem to take anything said negatively about a liberal as a personal attack on you. They are not personal attacks. They are disagreements with liberal policies and views.
I will also do my best to not take things personal that you may say about republicans and conservatives.
Life is short. There is no black or white. Everything is a shade of grey.