Latest Installment of Make Them Filibuster

Thanks, Ivy_B.

have added a H/T

A groundswell from the grass roots, maybe. But Dems in Congress are still too scared about November to make a call for reconciliation.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

…Because you’re cool like that!

Hmm… that could work. It would definitely be a PR disaster for the Republicans who constantly try to distance themselves from their apt description as the “Part of Nothing from Obama will pass”.

However, before anyone jumps on board this tactic, efforts should be made to see how this could be turned against the Obama folks.

This Administration is young and is making many missteps.
One of the greatest ones which I constantly see is their inability to reasonably foresee the response of the Republican party to most actions they take or plan to take.

The Republicans will not sit on their hands and be made to look like emm the “Party of NO”.. in event they are forced into this situation, what do the Obama folks think they will do??

PROACTIVITY is desperately required in order to thwart the Republican agenda.

PS: The Republican agenda is simple; make sure Obama does nothing for four years– by opposing any and everything he proposes and suggesting crazy unworkable and unrealistic options instead! NUTS!

LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/stalking-criminality-the-law-and-women/

Except for KT, I can anticipate the press reaction. Reid and Dems make Repubs stay on Senate floor. In other news…

And, KT – we really, really like to cite it as the Philadelphia Inquirer. (Except when SZ uses the E to point out its occasional oversteps.)

ARGH!!!!!! I KNOW BETTER. FIXING.

I know you do! Understandable since the current make-up of the op-ed page is competing with the WaPo for the rightest, ickiest page in the country. That’s why the Schwartz column was such a bright light!

So then there has been too many negatives in the Bills the Senate tries to pass?
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So in compromising with the Rep. to get their vote, they have made the Bill filibuster proof?
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So we continue to seek their support so we do not have to pass any legislation?
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It sounds like a shell game to me. Guess under which nut the blame belongs.

Guess under which nut the blame belongs.
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Nut? Singular???

It was a play on words, the nut is us.

” .. Force the Republicans to filibuster bills that most voters support. ..”
I fear when the DEMs try to better the militant rightists: They are outgunned in the propaganda wars.

For instance, the GOPs may filibuster all except a minor few. Then the DEMS will not really have a clear case of obstructionism to point at.

Or the “nuts” are us. I’ll agree with either.

If the Republicans filibuster all bills but a minor few, I think that makes for a *very* clear case of obstructionism.

Harry Reid should spend some of his leadership budget and buy 59 cots and leave them stacked in the hallway outside of the Senate Chamber. He should also advise Mitch McConnell to spend some of the minority budget to buy 41 cots; And then let the Minority Filibuster. Harry can bring anything he wants to the floor, so he might as well bring it all to the floor. The Republicans can read the phone book and Democrats can interrupt to announce the names of all the Americans who lost their healthcare while the Repulican was speaking just now. Republicans can read Shakespeare and Democrats can interrupt and read excerpts from Goldman Sachs quarterly report.

I live in a small town and don’t get to the theater too often – I’d pay to see this, though.

So would I, but both sides hide behind the filibuster so, it will never happen.

Grand Old Floprey?

Has nothing to do with being out guned, it has everything to do with controlling. The Senate, by design, is organized to get nothing done. From the begining the Senate was elected by congress, to what aim but to check The House who was elected by the people.
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Even though we nopw elect the Senate, they have a six year term, which means they still have to do nothing. With the short memory of the people, what the hay, what is 5 years of inaction?
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The filibuster is a zero sum loss or gain, that is we defend our own party and blame the otherside.
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We can’t change it because we need them to do it.
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In short we are being played.

they already have the props cots.

charlieromeobr: ” . If … filibuster all bills but a minor few, I think that makes for a *very* clear case of obstructionism. ..”
That would take barefaced chutzpah – the size and finesse of which DEMs have not been suspected of having.
[You know, the kind displayed by the rightists radio talk show hosts who can rile up an old lady to the extent of going to a townhall meeting with a sign that reads "Government off my Medicare".]

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allthingsinaname: ” In short we are being played. ..”
I refuse to surrender. Let us take the fight to those militants in theioir own backyards (before they bring it to our DEM shores!)

One example:
Most Americans are known to be followers who are ill-informed on the world and USA’s current affairs and read little (other than sports pages, coupons and astrological signs.)
As such, for information, they are likely to be drawn to certain “authoritative” figures (the Goebbels) who “speak our language” and once in the spider’s web they are thereby readily manipulated by the sly siver-tongued into what to think. [link to a study will follow.]

Think, FOX News, the most popular and the most trusted!

For instance, Clueless followers prefer to be on the ‘winning’ side of the issues (even if they really don’t know what the fuss is about and don’t care one way or another). Between the liberal/DEM and conservative/GOP public speakers or talk show hosts, who are most likely to say the following to the audience: “American people don’t want..” or “What American people are saying is ..”?

“American people”. Mhh. The warm, fuzzy, woozy feeling of patriotism. Fly the flag!

Try it DEMs – and do it often.

…they already have the props cots.
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KT,
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Sadly, that’s probably an accurate description of their intended use.

Interestingly,, I’ve been hearing more calls to abolish the filibuster – including from Howard Dean (which of course doesn’t mean anything). Dean did correctly identify the Democrats’ problem as a lack of spine.

Then I heard a CNN commentator (Tom Forman, I think) exclaiming with great incredulity that the Dems had put 39 (I think) holds on Republican efforts to filibuster, more than in the 50′s and 60′s combined! Wow, now there’s a reach. Those poor, poor Republicans, having their efforts to filibuster thwarted. He didn’t say anything at all about how the Republican efforts to faux filibuster compared with previous efforts of either party – and he seemed to be implying that the problem with governance was the Democrats’ efforts to keep the Republicans from filibustering.

abolishing the filibuster will never happen. control of the senate swings back and forth every few years, and the democrats want to preserve the power because they know they may well want it in a few years.

KT:

Since the Phila. Inq. is bankrupt you could probably put all of its readers and add the audience of MSNBC and fit everyone of them in your bandwagon.

I do admire your enthusiasm for this.

Add this to the increasing demands for Question Time and government might really become a show worth watching.

Note: I have no connection to the Question Time group; hence, no blogwhoring here.

I don’t think anybody would mistake normal linking in commentary for the vomit of blog-whoring we’ve been experiencing lately.

From PhillyInquirer via twitter. In the wake of yesterday’s flash mob rampage, councilmen ask Nutter to file suit against Twitter, Facebook and MySpace.

Don’t shoot the messenger, I guess.

cfu: ” .. barefaced chutzpah – the size and finesse of which DEMs have not been suspected of having. [You know, the kind displayed by the rightists radio talk show host .." who insists that his condemnation of Pres Obama stands because the American people know that BHO thinks it - even though BHO did NOT say what he (Limbaugh) accuses and berates him for saying about the intentions of our founding fathers - because, so he (Lim-bugger) charges, the American people know that BHO thinks it even if he(BHO) doesn't say it .. (Gosh! one gets all twisted up trying to unravel that devious tangled militant mush of a Lim-mind.)]

It is said that the DEMs don’t want to use the “nuclear option” and do away with the filibuster by the current minority party in the senate because the DEMs may need it at a future time when/if they are in the minority.

For what – to filibuster a stray rightist judge like Roberts? Well. That is important. But let us get a perspective, please.

The congress-persons clearly recognize that the Health Care Reform bill is THE most important single bill (with far-reaching consequences in our economy now and into the future) which they are likely to consider and pass for the duration of their entire sordid lives on the hill.

What a lot.

[Perhaps, for extra credit in posterity, the wily Nyet! militants know a good thing when they see one: They would rather pass the same or similar HRC bill(s) when they are in the majority.
And they would - easily.
After all, many of the provisions in the HRC originated from, were at some point pushed by, the wily militant coyotes of Nyet!]

“HRC”? Make that “HCR”.

The Democratic leadership should call the GOP’s bluff and see how long they would filibuster. With CSPAN recording every word, the oldtimers from the GOP will eventually stick their feet in their mouths.
This will give the Dems more ammo for re-election campaigns in November. It will also make for great late-night comedy when Leno and Letterman and Kimmel get their hands on the recordings.