Did Palin Have a Crib Sheet?

Seems pretty clear she had crib notes. But I guess she must have sweaty palms that blurred the ink or something, because if she was cheating and the best she could come up with were those answers, that’s just sad.
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Take this one: “”I think, kind of tougher to, um, put our arms around, but allowing America’s spirit to rise again by not being afraid to kind of go back to some of our roots as a God fearing nation where we’re not afraid to say, especially in times of potential trouble in the future here, where we’re not afraid to say, you know, we don’t have all the answers as fallible men and women so it would be wise of us to start seeking some divine intervention again in this country, so that we can be safe and secure and prosperous again. To have people involved in government who aren’t afraid to go that route, not so afraid of the political correctness that you know — they have to be afraid of what the media said about them if they were to proclaim their alliance on our creator.”
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To quote the debate judge in Billy Madison: “Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Yes, she did.

I read this at Daily Kos and the diary had video and blown up pictures. Apparently she had written Engergy Budget/Tax Cuts (with budget crossed out), and Lift American Spirits.

See the daily kos diary here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/7/834684/-HandPromter-Hilarity:-Read-The-Words-on-Palins-Hand.

That’s all? She couldn’t remember seven words?

JNS you have definately stooped to an all time new low for liberal journalist.
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Congrats!
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Next up on Time.com from Jay Newton-Small. “Did Sarah Palin wear pink or white panties?”
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Also this is for “Exiled” to read. Please click back on this link for a reponse to your comment.
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http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/02/04/bring-on-the-tea/?replytocom=130803#respond

C’mon, Rusty. If Obama had a crib sheet on his hand for a Q&A session wouldn’t you be all over me for not writing about it??
JNS

It is not JNS who stepped to an all time new low, it is $arah!

Did Obama have crib notes when he yapped about Winston Churchill saying “We do not torture.” Did he have crib notes when he helpfully told us during the campaign that China’s infrastructure was better than ours and that we should emulate China? Probably not.
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But I don’t recall a big deal being made in the Swamp by the journos over either thing.
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This is a non-issue. A little unpolished, obviously, but so what? After all, she didn’t cause the Dow to drop by 500 or so points simply by yapping about a bank tax that probably isn’t going to happen.

She needs help to be a complete ass. Wow.

You really have a bug up your butt about the Chinese infrastructure thing, don’t you? I still don’t understand what gets you so upset there — they’ve invested loads of cash and their infrastructure has vastly improved. We need to do more of the same to compete in the global marketplace. What’s so controversial about that?
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As for Churchill and torture, he’s the man who said: “When all was over, torture and cannibalism were the only two expedients that the civilized, scientific, Christian States had been able to deny themselves: and these were of doubtful utility.”
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And yes, Sarah’s crib notes is an issue. For someone to mock the president for having to use a teleprompter — when he clearly doesn’t, as seen in the debates or his off-the-cuff smackdown of the House GOP — and then be shown to be reading crib notes she wrote on her hand like a 12-year-old, yes, that’s newsworthy, because it’s (a) the very definition of hypocrisy and (b) hilarious.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-sirucek/did-palin-use-crib-notes_b_452458.html

See the picture.Hilarious.I would say this would hurt her, but making fun of her just cause her voting segment to become more angry and loyal to her.

Can’t for Gerard Anderson to explain why it is condescending liberalism that is at work here.

Didn’t she read a prepared speech? Before the Q&A. Obama uses teleprompters for prepared speeches.

These were notes to get her through Q&A, written on her hand! I suppose the reasoning was if she wrote them on paper it would be obvious that Q&A had been preset.

Which they had to do. You couldn’t afford to take spontaneous questions from the people on that floor.

The people who can’t see through Palin’s chicanery have no business questioning anything in the present administration……

You’d think with her $100,000 fee, she could have found a subtler way to crib.

C’mon guys; Palin knew those answers like the back (and front) of her hand.

Best line of the day goes to grape. That was good.

Poor, poor Rusty and spob. Their champion has been shown for what she is… a feckless cheater and a quitter. So they react instinctively by attacking Obama. Poor Rusty. Poor spob. Their champion is a brainless moron who had to write words on the palm of her hand so she could answer softball, pre-scripted questions from a fawning admirer. After a speech in which she slammed Obama for using a teleprompter.

Poor Rusty and poor spob can’t POSSIBLY criticize Caribou Barbie. So, it’s ATTACK OBAMA — divert and deflect.

Actually, I’m HOPING Sarah runs. And if she does, I hope she picks a qualified running mate — on the off chance that she wins, she will likely TIRE of the job after a couple months and quit, like she did on the people of Alaska.

By golly…

My 7th graders were slicker than this amateur….Sarah, go straight to detention hall.

Why would she need them for such softball questions?

Now I hold your investigative and journalistic skills in pretty low regard, but the fact that you have to ask why this Alaskan grifter (who had to shop at 5 different colleges before one would give her a communications degree) needed to cheat on her canned Q & A exam tells me that I need to set the bar just a little lower.

There is little doubt, after seeing a video clip, that Palin was reading “energy projects” off her hand. Unbelievable…

http://www.political-buzz.com/

“Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly superior to us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business you’re starting to think, “Beijing looks like a pretty good option. Why aren’t we doing the same thing?”
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That’s the Obama quote. The “bug” I have is with the glib, trite and erroneous way he deals with the issue, and of course the utter lack of press scrutiny, and this idea that he’s so goddamned smart and the GOP people are so stupid.
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First of all, if infrastructure were so important to Obama from the standpoint of doing business, then why didn’t the stimulus focus on big infrastructure projects (with a relaxation of the environmental review rules that delay groundbreaking)?
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Second of all, Obama conflates a lot of disparate points into his bogus thesis. China’s a good place to do business for a lot of reasons. Labor costs and a relative lack of regulation are two huge reasons. The lower labor costs are, of course, the result of a lot of things we do not want to emulate here, and I suspect that most people don’t want to emulate China’s poor record on regulation. Chinese infrastructure is not better than the US, and while we should strive to make ours better, and if ours becomes a serious competitive disadvantage, then it’s an issue to be addressed, but the problem isn’t close to what Obama is saying.
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The line is a throwaway. And not a very good one at that.
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As for Churchill, a bogus quote is a bogus quote. And anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of WWII, total war and how it was prosecuted would know that. Face it, Obama got his history from Andrew Sullivan. (I guess that’s a step up from John Kerry getting his history from “Thirteen Days” and his own exploits (“Christmas in Cambodia”) from “Apocalypse Now”.)

Ha ha, is it “condescending” to make fun of people who have write the answers to their quizzes on their hand?

Conservatives always complain that liberals supposedly created a society where every kid gets an “A”, and even the losing team gets a trophy; where it is unfair and unkind to fail someone or criticize them for being lousy at something.
The truth of it is they are the ones enabling the bigotry of low expectations, whether it is their politicians who claim that tax cuts reduce the deficit or their “scientists” who are actually the weekend weather guy from channel 64. You point out how full of it these Republicans are and they freak out because they don’t want information scrutinized or judged.
Even Orly Taitz and Sarah Palin get a medal!

Yes, JNS, we would. But the problem is that you guys haven’t been all over a lot of Obama gaffes. I didn’t see you guys covering “corpseman”. I don’t see you guys covering Obama’s ubercreepy “she’s gonna be buried in an Obama t-shirt”. I didn’t see Obama get a lot of criticism in here for “typical white person”. The list goes on and on.

You’d think with her $100,000 fee, she could have found a subtler way to crib.
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Seriously? And do you think that a President with such strong beliefs and supposed superior intellect need a teleprompter for every speech he needs including one to elementary school kids?

And despite your attempts to smear Palion, her $100,000 fee is going back to help the Tea Party and candidates. Do you know what has happened to Obama’s Nobel Prize money that was supposed to be donated several months ago to charity (BY LAW) ?

Obama and liberals come by that naturally

Second question: How many members of the media were there to cover this 600-person event? Were there more reporters on hand to cover Palin’s speech?, which had about 500 more people?

Another day – and another Chai snowjob. (snow-pocalypse?)
Is TIME being paid for this – or is this their corporate contribution to that exotic Chai Party?

And all that just to give exposure to a few lazy attendees!

I love this continuous nonsense form the left about Palin bein ga quitter and a cheater. Didn’t Clinton promise the peopel of Arkansas he would serve his full term before “quitting” to run for President?

Didn’t Obama “quit his Senate seat in mid term to be President. Actually he voted present took a salary and ran for President. And doesn’t this smarter than everyone President have a teleprompter to every speech.

So it begs the question, why does the left love somebody who has displayed the exact same traits as someone they hate?

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I love the smell of fear in the morning!

“Chinese infrastructure is not better than the US”
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The three elements that Obama named, ports, trains and airports are certainly newer and more advanced than those in America. Where exactly do you get your information to the contrary? Furthermore, he’s right. America should be investing more in it’s crumbling infrastructure.
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This complaining shows just how far you have to dig to manufacture some sort of controversy or disagreement. You might want to move on to something more substantive.

“Germany having let Hell loose kept well in the van of terror; but she was followed step by step by the desperate and ultimately avenging nations she had assailed. Every outrage against humanity or international law was repaid by reprisals often on a greater scale and longer duration. No truce or parley mitigated the strife of the armies. The wounded died between the lines; the dead moldered into the soil. Merchant ships and neutral ships and hospital ships were sunk on the seas and all on board left to their fate, or killed as they swam. Every effort was made to starve whole nations into submission without regard to age or sex. Cities and monuments were smashed by artillery. Bombs from the air were cast down indiscriminately. Poison gas in many forms stifled or seared the soldiers. Liquid fire was projected upon their bodies. Men fell from the air in flames, or were smothered, often slowly, in the dark recesses of the sea. The fighting strength of armies was limited only by the manhood of their countries. Europe and large parts of Asia and Africa became one vast battlefield on which after years of struggle not armies but nations broke and ran. When it was all over, Torture and Cannibalism were the only two expedients that the civilized, scientific, Christian states had been able to deny themselves: and these were of doubtful utility.” From The World Crisis, by Winston S. Churchill, Volume one, page 3, Chap. I, Charles Scribner’s Sons.
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I realize spob prefers to remain ignorant and proud of it, but the quotation Obama referenced is accurate. What spob doesn’t know, presumably because of an inadequate education, combined with lack of curiosity, is that Churchill was describing the First World War, not the Second. Or does spob simply lick the vomit of the Fox News Assclownery without reflection, hmmm? Nailing spob’s lies is as easy as getting teabaggers to admit their racism, and just as unrewarding. For spob, patriotism consists of hating other people, malicious greed and an addiction to wars fought by others. Spob, of course, will never leave his couch. much less do an honest day’s work.

Does that mean you’ve put in substantial effort to become the a$$-clown that you are?

Britain DID torture during WWII.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/nov/12/secondworldwar.world
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And as for infrastructure, China’s is not better than ours

My lord. her $100,000 fee is going back to help the Tea Party and candidates.
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You’re falling for this one, again? She ripped off AK. She ripped off the McCain campaign. What makes you think she will actually do this?
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Wouldn’t it have been simpler to decline the fee? Than give it back later?

Kevin, spob is just playing the old Southern Secessionist game. They were rabidly against internal improvements in the 1820s-1850s, for the simple reason that the South and its slave-owners couldn’t afford to fall even further behind. Yet again, today, when the South is poorer, less literate, less technologically savvy, worse provided with medical services, Spob and the Secessionists want to keep it that way. It’s all about keeping poor whites poor and resentful. That’s how the GOP/teabaggers get their votes, despite offering them nothing.

I *get* the populism/resentment of the TP-ers but what I don’t understand is why so many are so invested in someone who so obviously just wants to empty their wallets.

Hahahahaha!! Free, you’re CRACKING ME UP!!

I note that BHO didn’t need a crib sheet to dismantle and humiliate the entire Republitard caucus last week on live TV. It was like Tyson v Spinks.

Time for you to come up with another nonsensical talking point, bro.

“Hey Sarah, Putin’s attacking, we have to launch the nukes!”
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“Oh no!! The launch codes sweated off my palm!”

The old hand trick works, but a better strategy could’ve been a football quarterback’s armband with all the plays written on it. Then Sarah could just pick the play called out by the coach. Of course, who’s the coach? Todd? Meg Stapleton? Probably not Steve Schmidt, but I digress.
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Jay, are you going to stay in TN after Graceland (KT’s tweets reveals she’s still with friends and family in TX)? Can you get “stranded” in Las Vegas for a few days? Or maybe Hawaii “on assignment” to get Obama’s birth certificate and settle that stupid issue forever? Not a high-priority story, but it would be “work” on TIME’s dime and you’d stay warm.

Although I find this event and those people involved loathsome, I have to say that I think too much of a big deal is placed on the hand crib sheet. It doesn’t seem unreasonable that a politician would scribble major points to focus on, and most would just do it on a card or paper. What is really of importance is the rambling, empty, shallow comments that resulted. No teleprompter, no crib notes, even flunkies whispering in her ear, can overcome that..

Yes, yes. We’re all afraid of Palin. There’s nothing we would fear more than Palin getting the nomination. Please, please, please take mercy on us and don’t make her your nominee in 2012. Please.

Even if Sarah was to return the fee and that’s a big if, the Tea Party is getting ripped off by vultures that typically pray on people with no clue about what they are actually doing.

200 is the number I have seen. NYT I believe.

It’s hilarious seeing rustyreturns, spob & feeinpa squirm over this. Just can’t handle the truth. Only nine days ago, the President–totally extemporaneously–handed the GOP their asses on their home ground, live on camera. Game over.

I doubt Putin would ever attack Sarah. I’ll bet when they meet they’ll become an item. Maybe she thinks the “football” is a real football. If she sees Todd and the kids playing catch in the WH backyard she’d probably freak out.

Kay, Kay, Kay,

Your cheap shot about possible crib notes only shows how biased you really are. Obama doesn’t go to the bathroom without his Teleprompters and you have the nerve to make an issue of your speculation that Palin may have had crib notes on her hand. You’re a good student of Joe Klein. That is exactly the type of bias for which he is famous.

Whether Palin gave a great speech or a poor speech depends totally on whether you are a Liberal or a Conservative.

As a moderate-conservative, I believe she gave a really great speech that will be loved by conservatives and moderates alike. I’m positive that you Jay and the rest of the liberal/progressives on this site will think otherwise.

Liberal/Progressives are so fearful of Palin that they go crazy at the mention of her name. They know that most Americans love her and her views on our country. She’s a real American. She stands in the way of achieving liberalism/socialism in our country. Therefore they must do everything within their power to demonize, and marginalize her.

I found it very interesting that in a recent Gallup survey, a majority of Democrats and Liberals, both had a favorable view of Socialism. And you wonder why you lost in Massachusetts, Virginia and South Carolina. You are totally out of touch with the vast majority of Americans.

Yes rambling, empty, shallow is what we want. Throw in incoherent and we have a 100KTea Party speach from Sarah Palin.

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Make sure you read 1.1

She’s not donating it to her own SarahPAC as originally rumored?

So, we had one reporter for every three teabaggers (regular conference) and one reporter for every 11 when the star of the show was speaking…For an audience that numbered about the same as a high school pep rally.
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Why is any of this news?

Is she “The One” , Rusty?

(1) Clinton and Obama didn’t quit their offices to run for president, they quit them after they won office — just like George W. Bush did. That’s normal, and something all politicians do. What Palin did was quit in the middle of her first term to rake in cash on the lecture circuit. That’s unprecedented.
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(2) Since you seem to believe the “Obama needs a teleprompter” that Rush and Beck have spoonfed to you, go watch the video of Obama’s appearance before the House GOP. Or the presidential debates.
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(3) Obama and Palin could not be more unalike. Obama has degrees with distinction from Columbia and Harvard Law and worked as a con law prof at Chicago. Palin drifted through five mediocre colleges before getting one to give her a lame communications degree. Obama has proven he’s a master at debating, while Palin is somehow a Republican who needed to write “tax” on her hand to remember to talk about it.

You might want to read 1.1. It may give you some much needed rational insite.

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And yet Is still can reach the level that you an dthe rest of the left coem by naturally. And that doesn’t include the body of work you contribute to add to the status.

Spectacular retort! That is some of your most incoherent rambling yet. What, is there too much spittle and froth on the screen for you to craft a lucid thought?

As Rusty said (it’s you, not your blog doppelganger, right?),

Next up on Time.com from Jay Newton-Small. “Did Sarah Palin wear pink or white panties?”

…YOU seem to be the one obsessed with Sarah’s lingerie, not Jay. Were you there at the convention? If yes, then tell us what she was wearing. I think Jay had other issues to cover.

“Wouldn’t it have been simpler to decline the fee? Than give it back later?”
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She wants the opportunity to pay taxes on it.

yeah, Kevin, a Con Law prof who didn’t know about Powell v. McCormick when the issue of Burris being seated by the Senate arose . . . . yeah. I didn’t teach Con law, but I knew about the case.

Yeah, Obama justified the GOP opposition to HCR, and he owned them, yeah right. And do you remember his answers about West Va.? Well, if he were so good, why is Rockefeller getting off the reservation on coal etc.?
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Guys, when I was in law school, a not so bright prof, with the benefit of a podium etc. could parry a student and look good. But it doesn’t mean that the prof was really all that erudite. Sophistry may score debating points–it doesn’t advance understanding.

They have to have an opposition. They are trying to help gin one up. I imagine there were high school basketball games with more people at them.

Junius, perhaps reading comprehension is a skill you missed. The quote I was referring to was the “We do not torture.” not some quote out of a Thucydidean exercise of Churchill’s (for the help of you illiterates, remember Thucydides was involved in the Pelopponesian war).
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Funny how you guys miss that.
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The point about Obama and his infrastructure quote, other than the simple inaccuracy of it, is its vapidity. Yeah, China is growing, and with growth comes investments in infrastructure, but a country which has serious issues with earthquake resistant construction, a lack of high quality highways etc. doesn’t somehow magically become better than the US because of a shiny new airport built because it’s going to host the Olympic Games. One would think that Obama would understand all of that. But I guess not.
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Bottom line, guys, Obama’s diagnosis of the issue with China’s infrastructure and the lessons we can learn from them is trite, flawed and sophomoric. There’s a lot more wisdom in “Drill, baby, drill.” than Obama’s paean to Beijing.

Of course you did, spob. Powell v. McCormick is just as famous as Brown v. Board or Dred Scott.
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Keep grasping for straws in your effort to show that our very smart president is anything but. It’s absolutely hysterical.

I didn’t see you guys covering “corpseman
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because after 8 years of Bush gaffes, that’s too small to get attention.

So did WaPo’s editorial board, IIRC.

Keep stamping your feet, spob. I can’t wait for when Obama misuses a semicolon and you say that justifies his impeachment.

Jay Newton-Small is such an utterly clueless, Obama loving loon and cultist that she doesn’t even know that Obama has used a crib sheet for every one of his dozens of daily utterances, including one before a gathering of freakin’ 6th graders. http://www.theadmonition.com/?p=2834

Newton-Small is also evidently unaware that her love interest, dutifully reading from the script prepared by another clueless Obama worshipper, thinks a U.S. Navy corpsman is a freakin’ “corpse-man”. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/02/04/obama_mispronounces_corpsman_at_prayer_breakfast.html

Maybe Newton-Small should join Jay Carney and the dozens of other Obama useful idiots in the Washington press corps who are now being paid by American taxpayers and provide phonetic spellings on Obama’s crib sheets? I’d love to hear how Obama pronounces the word “colonel” while he reads from his crib sheet without a phonetic spelling.

Yeah, Obama justified the GOP opposition to HCR, and he owned them, yeah right.
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No he didn’t, the quote you provided proves nothing, you’re ginning up baseless accusations, and the numerous quotes I found and posted show that he did wreck their arguments.

Yes, dat wuz reel gud insite!

Great line of argument. I can see the bumper stickers now: “Palin 2012: Obama Was Not Familiar with the Precedent of Powell v. McCormick.”
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Be sure to run on that. Because, if true, it totally redeems the complete and utter bankruptcy of modern conservatism and it completely shows that Obama is a fraud. And a criminal. And likely not a citizen. Or perhaps even a member of the human race!
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I really feel sorry for people like Exiled, conservatives and libertarians with a brain and a willingness to use it, who constantly have to see idiots like you, rusty, and textee on their side.

…is this similar to Sarah’s phonetic spellings on her teleprompter?

This is nothing, I did this in Grade School too.

for the help of you illiterates, remember Thucydides was involved in the Pelopponesian war

That would be the Peloponnesian war, spob. You can’t even get the basics of Western Civ. right, can you? Churchill fought in India, the Sudan, the 2nd Boer War and the first World War, so he hardly needs lessons from an unpatriotic armchair warrior like you.

Only the teabaggers could waste time on a GOP candidate who is so moronically stupid as to need palm notes to remember “Tax cuts”. No real conservative regards Palin and the Ignorati with anything but contempt. The shame is that you just don’t find many real conservatives in the US today.

freeinpa – There is a difference between getting promoted to POTUS like Bill and Barack and quitting your job half way through your term.

“Clinton and Obama didn’t quit their offices to run for president, they quit them after they won office”

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Yes they did. They could not bear to be off the public dole. Government “jobs” are the liberals own tribute to be welfare kings and queens. It beats having to work for living. And they can campaign on somebody else’s dime.
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” Obama and Palin could not be more unalike. Obama has degrees with distinction from Columbia and Harvard Law and worked as a con law prof at Chicago. Palin drifted through five mediocre colleges”
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This is priceless. Do you truly wish to stand before God and country and say if you don’t graduate from an Ivy League school you truly can’t be President or you are somehow inferior? That is the typical smug arrogant attitude that has folks running from liberal idiocy. I am sure all the other accredited colleges love being called mediocre.

Coincidentally, Clinton never finished his degree from Oxford. A quitter or just draft dodger?

I also guess you don’t think Bill Gates or Steve Wozniak were smart enough to have founded two of the largest technology companies since they were college dropouts..

And your information about Obama is incorrect, a typical lie that liberals repeat then present as fact. Obama never released grades or transcripts from either any college nor his SATs or LSATs (Probably not a coincidence). The only thing we know he did not graduate from Columbia with honors. So his GPA was less than 3.3 at a minimum. More likely he was admitted to Harvard as an Affirmative Action acceptance.
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If Palin is a dumb as you state, isn’t she the idle liberal supporter. Union members, inner city folks, illegal immigrants all fall into that category of being undereducated from mediocre schools. Could the reason they belief liberal nonsense is because they are under-educated?

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You and Obama possess the same arrogance and stupidity to believe that liberals only have the answer and everyone who does not agree are boobs. Those same boobs will be voting this socialist and his ploicies that are destroying this country out of office. And as they are swept out, there is a possibility that the person yielding that broom may be Palin.

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Once again the bigotry of the left rears its ugly head.

Spob, WaPo considers Krauthammer a journalist. If that doesn’t show you how imbecilic they are, nothing will. Still, I can see why you like them. Birds of a feather…..

“and the numerous quotes I found and posted show that he did wreck their arguments.”

By your own delusional say so. Which is worth about as much as Obama’s campaign promises.

I never said you had to graduate from the Ivy League, just that you had to be smart. Harry Truman was self-educated, but clearly educated.
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“Once again the bigotry of the left rears its ugly head.”
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As opposed to you all, with the soft bigotry of low expectations. This woman is a moron, and she deserves to be called a moron — as does anyone who thinks she’s qualified to be president.

You don’t find it amazing that a Republican has troubling remembering “tax cuts”? God above, tax cuts and torture sums up their policies for the last decade. You’d think even Sarah Stupid would be able to remember that much!

I love the tortuous guessing of the $100,000. And thaqt’s all it is –guessing. You all have less of a clue than you usually do which is marginal at best.

And yet you show no concern that Obama has kept the Nobel Prize money that he received months ago. He is legally required to donate it.

Palin is involved in a perfectly legal agreement and you froth and whine. Our law professor President is afoul of the law but silence from the liberal peanut gallery.

That shoots my theory to hell. I was betting on “breathe in, breathe out”.

3xfire3:
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I have serious problems with that Gallup poll, amongst which are disclaimers like these from Gallup:

“Socialism” was one of seven terms included in a Jan. 26-27 Gallup poll. Americans were asked to indicate whether their top-of-mind reactions to each were positive or negative. Respondents were not given explanations or descriptions of the terms.
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Exactly how Americans define “socialism” or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans’ reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them — an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

That’s a marketing survey. To say that this indicates something meaningful about Americans’ politics is a joke.
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This guy does a better job of taking down this new favorite of Republicans link to a reasonable, non-conservative agenda-laden reaction, but still, just think about how many ways this poll can fail, and then wait for other, similar polls to come out, and then judge whether this is an outlier at best.
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For example, Obama’s proposals and programs have been almost uniformly decried by conservatives and Republicans as “socialism”, despite the obvious preservation of private ownership and distribution of enormous sums of money to industry elites.
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Them news media generally haven’t actually come down on whether policies like TARP hedge fund/bank asset auctions using tax-payer money are socialism or not, leaving readers, viewers and listeners with two versions of reality between which to “decide.” Since the Republicans have been doing much more decrying of “socialism” than the Democrats have been doing explaining “not socialism, you idiots,” and the information-distribution profession has seen fit to leave it in the realm of opinion debate (lest they be accused of “taking sides”), it’s conceivable that many, many uninformed Americans –even self-identified Democrats and liberals– are under the impression that Obama’s policies are socialism.
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Do you understand what I’m getting at?
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Since Republicans have been full-throatedly defining Democrats as, and naming Obama specifically as “socialism,” and Obama’s response has been variations on this idiotic and deceptive theme ( link to Obama weakly refusing to name political ideology):

As recently as last week, he steadfastly refused to define his governing philosophy.
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Asked in an interview with The New York Times to describe if he was a liberal, socialist or progressive, Obama demurred.
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“No, I’m not going to engage in that,” he said, before calling back the reporters later in the day to question why they would even ask if he is a socialist.

, even poorly informed (average) Democrats and liberals might believe that Obama’s program has something to do with socialism, and are responding favorably to a word associated with Obama.
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That explanation makes just as much sense in the context of what this poll purports to say as the explanation favored by agenda-driven conservatives.
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So I ask you, 3xfire3, to take these things into account before you jump to the headline-grabbing conclusions of a single poll in which socialism isn’t even defined, and respondents aren’t ever asked if they know what the word means or to what it refers.
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I know you’d love to have some data that supports your ideas about liberals, but this ain’t it.
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Maybe Obama’s afraid of ideological definitions like “liberal” or “socialist,” but reasonably informed Democrats and American liberals aren’t, and will say unhesitatingly that they are A) liberal and B) not socialist. This kind of situation says a lot more about Obama, Democrats, Republicans, the worthless political media and the poverty of information in which live the bulk of the American people than it does about liberals’ ideas on moving our country forward.
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Thanks for considering this, 3xfire3.

“I never said you had to graduate from the Ivy League, just that you had to be smart. Harry Truman was self-educated, but clearly educated.”

No you said she drifted through mediocre colleges implying the schools were not of the quality that Obama attended. And you have no idea why or the reasons she changed schools. Maybe she was not offered the same affirmative action opportunities that Obama received.

And you did lie about Obama’s academic achievements.

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As opposed to you all, with the soft bigotry of low expectations”

Again aren’t low expectations the heart ands soul of the liberal base? Making liberals the party of morons.

Oooh junius, you got me. In any event, the bottom line is that Obama quoted Winston Churchill as saying “We do not torture” (he obviously cribbed that from Andrew Sullivan) in order to justify his “thou shalt not waterboard”. Come to find out that (a) Churchill never said that and (b) Britain did torture during WWII.
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All the crap you cite is supremely besides the point.
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Reading comprehension is a skill you obviously haven’t mastered, but, by all means, keep correcting my typos.

No kevin, it’s just that when you tout yourself as a Con Law prof, you should, um, ya know, be sure of the law before pontificating about it.
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In any event, Obama is not dumb–he’s just not the ubergenius you and the press like to say. Ubergeniuses don’t say “corpseman” (twice). Ubergeniuses don’t yap about the Austrian language (hey JNS, I notice that didn’t make swampland). And the list goes on and on.

You’ve got it a bit wrong, Freep (3.6). Until 1986, prizes such as the Nobel were exempt from federal income tax. The recipient could keep the money and still pay no taxes. Today the prize is tax-exempt only if it is donated to charity. The law allowed Obama to keep the money, but if he did he would have had to pay income tax on it. He gave it away, thereby avoiding the tax. To repeat — there was no legal requirement that he give the money away.
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Obama clearly felt that someone with his salary and other income could afford to do without the money (not to mention the tax burden that goes with it,) The honor alone is surely enough (perhaps even too much),

Stuart,
Regardless of the accuracy of this Gallup survey, I believe it is an indicator of how liberals feel about socialism as compared to conservatives.
Also I do personally believe that President Obama would very much like very much for America to have a European Socialist type government. Is that not what Liberal/Progressive really wants?
Also I do not dislike Obama personally. I do dislike his politics. Way too often L/P claim anyone who disagrees with the President is a racist. That is simply not the truth. Most people who disagree with his politics are not racist. They are simple Americans expressing their rights as free men and women.
You know this to be true but you appear to be one of only a few liberals that do.

Freep (re 15.4) — Obama is NOT required to donate his Nobel Prize money to charity (see 3.12). He announced three months ago that he would donate it to charity. .
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http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/2009/10/09/Obama-donating-Nobel-prize/1255111939.html
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If he hasn’t given it away yet, I’m sure there’s a deadline and I’m sure he will meet it.
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Palin is in a very different position. Her $100,000 is a speaking fee and therefore qualifies as ordinary income, taxable at the usual rate. Giving it away does not necessarily exempt it from taxation. In particular, political donations are not deductible from income tax. So if she hands out the full $100,000 to PACs and candidates, she still has to pay tax on it. Also, there are limits on how high a percentage of income may be taken as a charitable deduction, although she’s rolling in so much dough that that may not be a problem for her. (Prizes like the Nobel are not subject to any percentage limit).
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There’s nothing wrong with not knowing all the intricacies of the US tax system. Nobody knows them all. I’m a law school grad who took several courses in taxation, and I let my accountant do the returns. But if you’re actually going to try to make points about the law, it helps to know what you’re talking about.

bonell:

I was not quibbling with Palinand the tax code. I was prodding the hypocritical left here about getting worked up over her receiving a legal stipend and slience as to Obama’s Nobel gift.
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I beg to differ with you on the reading of the law (as follows):
(B) the accepting by an employee of a gift of more than minimal value when such gift is in the nature of an educational scholarship or medical treatment or when it appears that to refuse the gift would likely cause offense or embarrassment or otherwise adversely affect the foreign relations of the United States, except that—
(i) a tangible gift of more than minimal value is deemed to have been accepted on behalf of the United States and, upon acceptance, shall become the property of the United States; and

(ii) an employee may accept gifts of travel or expenses for travel taking place entirely outside the United States (such as transportation, food, and lodging) of more than minimal value if such acceptance is appropriate, consistent with the interests of the United States, and permitted by the employing agency and any regulations which may be prescribed by the employing agency.

But it appears Mr. Obama is required legally to “donate the funds” And yet not quite the hysteria as Palin. Liberals are moving from one disease: Bush Deranged Syndrome to Palin Hysteria.

“Maybe Obama’s afraid of ideological definitions like “liberal” or “socialist,” but reasonably informed Democrats and American liberals aren’t, and will say unhesitatingly that they are A) liberal and B) not socialist. This kind of situation says a lot more about Obama, Democrats, Republicans, the worthless political media and the poverty of information in which live the bulk of the American people than it does about liberals’ ideas on moving our country forward.

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This is how you defend against being called a socalist? Just saying you are this or that does not change the fact that all of your comments, actions and ideals are socialist.

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The fact and truth is, A. You are a liberal and B. You are a socialist. Period.

JNS:
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I did “scream” at all of you for not reporting on the fact Obama doesn’t even know what a friggin Corspman is in the Navy. Not only doesn’t he know what it is, he doesn’t even know how to pronounce it. Not one word about it from the swamp journalist.
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Now you try to say Palin had some sort of “crib sheet”?
Give me a friggin break lady.
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This is as usual another swampland lie about a conservative to hype up some lunatic liberal bru-ha-ha.
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But, you go for it JNS if it makes you all special inside.

3xfire3….are u kidding me? I find your “insight” bizarre!!!
Yes I do. Lost in space or bedazzled by looks, are you?

die please realize that to some on this site Sarah is “the one”. Next they will be claiming her as “the madonna”. Her writing is holy, even when it is on her hand.

Rustyblog:
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You’re not doing me or yourself any favors with this socialism nonsense. Like I said, I’m starting to think that your socialism screams are doing more to make uninformed people like the word than socialists’ attempts to make them believe that they’re really be happy under monopolistic state capitalism.
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If Obama personally stays above George W’s average favorable ratings throughout his term, and you keep yelling “that’s socialism” after he gets done with speeches about middle-class tax cuts, you’re just going to increase the favorable ratings of the word “socialism”.
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I don’t want that, and neither should you, if you were serious at all about opposing socialism (like new liberals and libertarian Dems do).

And yet all I have seen reported is anecdotes. I keep asking Jay why not report on who is backing the multitudes of Tea Party groups. Interviewing attendees is not reporting. It is stenography. Dig in. Find out how involved FOX, Army, right wing establishment is in these groups. Until reporters do, they need to quit calling them grass roots. Who constitutes its membership? Demographics. Who are their affliates in the far right, to the Republican Party.
“Show me the money.”

apr, that’s if she’s writing her own stuff (I’m guessing she gets help). Imagine this fake email:
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From: Sarah Palin
To: Meg Stapletongue
Sent: Feb. 7, 2010
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Meg, the literal media is on top of me, I mean, on my ass about my talking to the hand last night did someone at TIME’s blogger notice that!?!?!? Have the guys right me a new Face Book post also and bring me like another Starbucks already do I have to do every thing myself!??? Love you!
Sarah

pafro: And one is so stupid she wipes her hand on her leg during the “interview” and smudges her own crib notes. Maybe that is why it took her 5 colleges before graduating. She kept smudging her crib notes when taking tests.

decon good point. I am hoping KT makes this the picture of the week.

Love it slowp. Maybe she will have turned over governing to “the dude” as she did in Alaska. He will be seen mushing through America, Sarah as his passenger on the sled, wearing her wolf skins, as he takes on the Ruskys as they fly over America. She wont be able to see Russia from the White House.
Oh, she is so fun. Can’t you see her bringing the turkey slaughter house to the White House. No Thanksgiving amnesty from her.

Were you perhaps planning on running for President? A nation cannot be run by someone who has to make crib notes about the most basic issues.
If you were planning to run for President, I would expect you would be mocked.
By the way, if you did this when taking tests, it would be called cheating.

I love the psuedo-intellect of the left here. Name calling an denigration but look at the scoreboard grasshoppers.

HCR Zero

Idiots and losers (by libs definition) 1

And that’s with both majorities and the WH. Pathetic

Read it and weep

Slowp

You are aptly named.

In your own mind you think he was brilliant and outsmarted Repubs. He lectured them just as the liberals did during the HC debate. See how weel that arrogance turned out for you.

Keep up the good work! And start reserving the moving vans for Nov.

spob (re 15.6) What is there to criticize Obama about? He won a prize whose stipend is taxable unless given away. He’s promised to give it away. If he hasn’t given it away yet, there’s no reason to think he won’t. If, as reports indicate, he gives it to charity, it will pass through his hands with no tax consequences. He’s even solicited recommendations for recipients. What’s your problem — that he hasn’t moved fast enough? I’m sure he still has plenty of time left to give it away if he hasn’t yet. And, to repeat, he doesn’t have to give it away; he just has to pay taxes on it if he keeps it.
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Palin is in a different tax situation, and she hasn’t been nearly as specific as Obama, who’s said flat out that all his Nobel money is going to charity. You may see that as a matter of degree; others seem to see it as a difference of kind. I myself don’t care whether she keeps it or gives it to Rand Paul or to some Israeli charity (why not?) or to her grandson to help him through college if he ever gets there. Nor am I holding my breath waiting to find out what either Obama or Palin has done with the money when something does happen. The whole thing is trivlal (as, in my opiinion, are many of your obsessions). I just thought it might be useful to let you in on the actual tax situation, since you seemed to think Obama was legally obligated to give the money away — and he’s not.
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I disagree with you on lots of matters of opinion — and make little enough effort to hide it — but we’re (mostly) in the realm of fact here. Let’s try to focus, okay?

It seems that spob just doesn’t get this rational argument stuff. Every second post by her is a gibbering cry of rage, followed by a proclamation of an empty “victory”. We really do need a better education system in this country.

hysterical…Caribou Barbie is a complete moron. this on top of Rahm should be fired, but Rush does the same thing but he’s a republican so never mind.

Dumb as cat shit.

“Did Palin Have a Crib Sheet?”…..DAHHHHH !