The Cape Wind Farm

“faux enviro”?

Yeah, what credentials does he have?

Not enough to disagree with the Kennedy’s (self serving) opposition you have to go overboard and say RFK Jr isn’t even an enviromentalist.

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I’ve never understood the claim about ruined sunrises, but then I always thought fictional places like Coruscant with nothing but skyscrapers were the epitome of great vistas.

Actually, if you define “led” as supplying the actual funding and lobbying to stop the wind farm, the effort to stop the wind farm is “led” by extremist wingnut billionaire (and coal and gas fired power plant owner) Bill Koch.
http://www.capecodtoday.com/news365.htm
While any liberal who lends their name to Koch to keep his dream of a fossil-fueled Massachusetts alive is a loser, Klein is a loser for pretending this isn’t bankrolled by the same people who brought you global warming.

Re Update-So by your reasoning you are okay with readers fixation on a presumably truth telling journalist who lied when confronted about authorship.

And just to be clear, the article you link to is about some Cape (and Martha’s Vineyard) Indian Tribes trying to stop the project because not having a clear view of the horizon will interfere with some religious ceremony. The article has nothing to do with enviros, “faux” or otherwise.
I’m not going to debate the merits of whether a tribe in Martha’s Vineyard can see all the way to the north end of Cape Cod for their ceremony, but out West we occasionally have fights over sighting wind turbines.
In Wyoming where I grew up there are some desolate places that are windy as hell and they are not going to build windmills there at this time because it would disturb critical Sage Grouse habitat. Elsewhere raptors get destroyed by the blades.
Enviros stopped turbines from getting sited in Wyoming. Imagine that NIMBY-ism! And the reason Sage Grouse are endangered in the first place was oil and gas development (cf. coal-bed methane). How ironic.

Oh…SNAP!

Cell phone towers spring up left and right, and new high-tension lines are being threaded through SE lower Michigan. But, heaven forbid a wind turbine go up…

The very rich are different from the rest of us. They can afford greater hypocrisy.

Because those Cape Cod Indian tribes are so rich?

I have no idea. I guess you gotta be rich to live there. Do they have a casino? Whatever.

So Joe, tell us how you really feel about Bobby Kennedy Jr? I have attended a number of events where he was the speaker and I have always come away with great respect for his commitment to protecting the environment. As for the Cape Wind Farm – why don’t we just spend the billions we need to get the grid updated and then we can build the farm in West Texas and power the whole country? It seems that would be a better, long-term solution.

pafro, sorry, I didn’t pay sufficient attention to your previous posts. I understand better now what you are saying. Good point. I want to respond to #8 pobo1 below, but need to gather my thoughts first. You would probably do better at it. Thanks.

Quit citing buzz words you’ve heard from T. Boone Pickens. Electricity doesn’t transmit well over long distances, so we might as well make it localized. Furthermore, offshore wind farms tend to produce more electricity than ones on land because the wind speed is usually greater and the turbines can be larger.

Looks like of the areas off both of the coasts are ideal places for wind farms:
http://www.windpoweringamerica.gov/pdfs/wind_maps/us_windmap.pdf

Drill baby drill!

2thirds, you’re like the police chief in the Simpson’s who admonishes his companions that they should be digging UP to get out of a hole.
Offshore drilling is a band-aid over the energy problem. It is not only insufficient to serve as a long term solution, it actively wastes our resources in a move that is opposite to the direction in which we eventually need to go.
Oh well. Keep digging upwards, you’re bound to get somewhere eventually.

Yeah. A bandaid that’ll work for at least a couple more centuries. The windfarm thing is a joke. Wind technology is nothing new, been around for decades, at least. There is no way to make it cost effective. An astronomical amount of money to produce a product which the consumer definately cannot afford. Go get your own windmill. For roughly 65 grand you can buy one, and provided you can get the permits to install it (1 -2 yr. wait) you can generate ALMOST enough electricity to power the average household. Tall, ugly, your neighbors will love it, but at least you’ll have that warm fuzzy feeling that comes from helping your environment. I say lets dig downwards and tap our virtually endless supply of oil. It’s been done and proven to work at a fraction of the price of wind.

JK-
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Your condemnation of NIMBYism and liberal/enviro hypocracy is to be commended. Replace “offshore wind farm” with “offshore oil drilling rigs” (like off the coast of Santa Barbara) and you get yet another version.
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Here in California (and I’m sure similarly everywhere), we are constantly reminded that the well-to-do really ARE different. They are perfectly willing to have “alternative” energy, so long as it doesn’t defile THEIR neighborhood. They are perfectly willing to avail themselves of the benefits of noxious or visually displeasing facilities (waste transfer stations, prisons, power plants, wind farms, etc.), so long as they are no where near them.

MR. SALAZAR- PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND DENY CAPE WIND ONCE AND FOR ALL-
It is incredible that it has taken the federal government over 8 years to figure out that this private developer’s deadly and potentially devastating industrial wind plant should be denied.
The Wampanoag Tribes have been telling MMS for over 8 years, that the site for this industrial plant is in the middle of their ancient burial grounds. This site could not be more personal to the tribe’s hearts and souls.
The FAA has issued a “Determination of Hazard” on the 44 story project located in the middle of 400,000 flights a year. The USCG has told the Massachusetts Fisherman’s Partnership that they will no longer be allowed to fish these rich waters.
This so called “clean” wind plant has a 43,000 gallon transformer substation planned for the middle of the fishing grounds. Cape Wind’s own OIL SPILL FATALITY MAP shows that the transformer oil has a 90% chance of hitting our coastline in 4.8 hours.
For 8 years, the good people of the Cape and Islands have been fighting to protect our heritage, waterways, airways and way of life against the decimation this private developers subsidized wind plant would leave. The developer has allegedly spent $30,000,000 of his own money on the chance that he can make billions while destroying the Cape and Islands. The citizens of the Cape and Islands have donated over $20,000,000 to protect the sanctity and the beauty of these beaches, water and airways.
Nantucket Sound, is the heart and soul and economic engine of our Cape and Islands. It is the church and sacred burial grounds of the first people who welcomed us to America.
What kind of government federally recognizes the sovereign rights of one of America’s oldest tribes, then allows a private developer to excavate their ancestral burial grounds and build a steel forest in the middle of their church?
Mr. Salazar, you have every reason to deny this project. You now know in your heart it is the wrong place for profit’s sake only.
For the sake of the Wampanoag’s traditions and religious rights and the safety respect of the seafaring heritage of the people of the Cape and Islands,… please do the right thing and deny this doomed project once and for all.

I find it ironic that someone who let crazy wingnut Pete Hoekstra ghostwrite his column is accusing someone else of hating America.

Actually, Kelin accusing someone of hating America is here:
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/06/30/vacation-interruptus/