Barack Obama Drops New Budget, Prepares For Battles To Come

Another budget drop, another round on the Tilt-A-Whirl of political spin. On CNBC this morning, New Hampshire Republican Sen. Judd Gregg did not hold back. “I think it was Einstein who said that the definition of insanity was doing the wrong thing over and over again and expecting change,” says Gregg, who almost became Obama’s Commerce Secretary. “Eight years out the president is projecting a trillion dollar deficit. that’s not acceptable.”

The White House, meanwhile, is proclaiming a continuation of “responsibility.” “This is a budget that makes tough choices while investing in initiatives to create jobs and eliminate — and help reduce the economic pressures facing the middle class,” White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer.

Don’t get dizzy. Just look for the details. Here is one summary version of them, laid out in 7 easy-to-scan bullet points:

1. Obama is embracing a continuation of historically big short-term budget deficits, which result from a combination of the poor economic planning by George W. Bush (and Obama last year), two costly wars, stimulus spending and a huge reduction in tax revenues as a result of the recession: $1.413 trillion in 2009; $1.556 trillion in 2010; $1.267 trillion in 2011; $828 billion in 2012.

2. Economists and U.S. creditors care much less about the short-term deficits (which are excusable as a way of restarting the economy) than the middle-term deficits (from roughly 2013 to 2017), when the nation should be out of the recessionary woods and should be living within its means. Except the Obama budget does not live within its means during this period, according to the president’s own top accountant, Peter Orszag. He has said deficits should run at about 3 percent of GDP to be sustainable. In the new budget, the deficit is nearly a third larger than that, bottoming at 3.9 percent of GDP from 2014 to 2016.

3. To deal with the over-large middle-term deficits, the White House is proposing to punt the hard questions of big program cuts and tax increases to a bipartisan “Fiscal Commission,” which will be charged with proposing a way to balance the budget by 2015, which Congress will then be free to ignore, as has been its habit.

4. Obama has not abandoned his top spending priorities. Despite the much debated freeze on non-defense discretionary spending, Obama is proposing significant increases in a couple discretionary programs. The biggest story, in this regard, is education, which Obama is not skimping on despite the downturn. The Department will get $17 billion more for Pell Grants, which pays part of tuition for low income students, as well as billions more for elementary and secondary schools. The Department of Homeland Security also gets a 2 percent bump, with $734 million for new airport screening machines.Veterans Affairs and the State Department also get bumps in spending.

5. Obama has signaled a clear intent to take the deficit concerns directly to Congress, and few expect he will get his way in many of these areas, suggesting that deficits might run higher than he predicts. In addition to the spending freeze, which many in Congress scoff at despite its attached veto threat, Obama has targeted 120 programs for termination or reduction, saving a hypothetical $20 billion if Congress goes along. In the same vein, Obama wants to save $40 billion by eliminating tax preferences for oil, gas and coal companies, which may be about as doable as health care reform, considering the power of those industry lobbies on Capitol Hill. At the Defense Department, Obama wants cuts in the C-17 tanker program and the F-35 stealth fighter engine program. NASA is also slated to lose its next generation space vehicle program–a pet project of President Bush. “We don’t believe that just because it has a powerful constituency wasteful programs should continue to exist,” explained Orszag.

6. In terms of taxes, Obama still wants the Bush Tax Cuts to expire on schedule in 2011 for those who make more than $250,000, and he wants to expand the “Make-Work-Pay” tax credit one more year, providing hundreds of dollars in rebates to most of the middle class. There are also a bunch of other tax cuts in the short term that Obama wants–for small business, for home retrofits, for clean energy companies–that are meant, in part, as economic stimulus.

7. The bottom line: Obama is splitting the middle, trying to chart a politically palatable course that makes it look like he is tough on the deficit, allows him to pick fights with Congress and does not sacrifice his most cherished program expansions. At the same time, he has not yet provided numbers to back up the fiscal promise he made last year when he declared “A New Era Of Responsibility.”

Related Topics: Office of Management and Budget, peter orszag, Barack Obama, Budgets
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  • Matt

    This budget is called making the best out of an inherited mess. A dose of bad “planning” by Obama “last year” did not create even half of the current deficit. Bush spending pushed it to a trillion and then the worst economic crash sine 1929 sent it over the edge.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • square1

    It is worth remembering that Obama wanted Gregg to be his Commerce Secretary. A truly stunning bad choice there.

    As for the budget, Obama is a fool. He won’t get any credit for deficit reduction. If he’s successful, the GOP will spend it all back, as soon as they have the chance. If he’s not successful, we’re going to have to listen to the spobs, rustys, and textees whining about how Obama “broke his promise” to reduce the deficit.

    Meanwhile, Dems will only give him credit he he puts people back to work (which, imho, is a far better plan for reducing the deficit anyway). But cutting government spending (even in 2011) will likely be counterproductive to growing the economy and reducing the deficit anyway.

    The best case scenario is a repeat of the Clinton 90s. Obama and the Dems might place our country on stronger economic ground, but will fail to articulate the proper economic principles that underpin the recovery and deficit reduction. This will allow the GOP to sweep back into power and repeat the tax-cut-and-spend cycle.

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:
    .
    Although it seems pretty obvious from your focus that deficits matter more than anything else to you right now, I believe you also note that White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said “a budget that makes tough choices while investing in initiatives to create jobs and eliminate — and help reduce the economic pressures facing the middle class.”
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    So would you mind terribly focusing on that teensy, insignificant problem of the lost fortunes, degraded lives and economic insecurity of tens of millions of your fellow Americans for just a second or two, and maybe update this post with something in the way of specifics related to the “initiatives to create jobs” and “reduce economic pressures” part of what’s been released about this budget?
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    For example, those bits about “hundreds of dollars in rebates to most of the middle class” and tax cuts “for home retrofits” can’t possibly be all the Administration’s miserable efforts on this front…or can they?
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    I know that totally unimportant nonsense about how to reduce 11% unemployment (17.5% real unemployment), or how to prevent re-setting ARM mortgages from continuing to put houses underwater, or how to help folks whose 401k’s were just destroyed along with their property’s values retire to more than poverty by the end of this President’s term doesn’t deserve a minute of your attention, nor a sentence of your valuable online column space, so I’m sorry for bringing these things up. I am well aware that these sorts of problems don’t affect the people who write about things like Presidential budgets, so it must be beyond tedious to contemplate. The deteriorating lives and hopes of your fellow citizens certainly don’t provide an enjoyable and stimulating conversation between educated folks at cocktail hour, certainly!
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    But please, won’t you just indulge us with just a crumb detailing those part of the budget important to people whose concerns aren’t quite as lofty as the Serious people in Washington’s somber, brow-furrowed debates about next decade’s deficits, Michael Scherer?

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    How about a solution Matt. Blaming Bush continually, has not changed anything. This depression is getting worse, not better. Blaming Bush got Obama elected, but has accomplished nothing more.

  • stuartzechman

    And, if I haven’t said it twice already…
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    Certainly!

  • http://twitter.com/michaelscherer Michael Scherer

    The second and third round stimuli have been much discussed elsewhere, and I mention them here in passing. My point, I guess, is that when we are talking about the president’s budget we should be talking about the mid-term impact. That’s how economists look at it, at least. The short term job forgiven stuff is forgiven, mostly, if you ignore the right wing conflation of issues. The long term is an entitlement issue, which cannot be dealt with by presidential fiat. The mid term failure to be responsible, however, is what creditors care about, what economists say will impact interest rates, and where the Obama budget fails his own test of responsibility.

  • michaelfury
  • square1

    Hey, stupid, the reason that it is important to blame Bush for his policies is that context matters.
    .
    Had Bush not rammed his tax cuts to the rich through. And had he not wasted over a trillion dollars in Iraq, most likely we would have had a national debt in the $4-5T range. In that scenario, it would have been trivial to pass a stimulus package of as much as $2-3T without fear of putting the solvency of the U.S. government at question. A stimulus package of 2-3 times what we got would easily have pushed us out of the recession that you are now whining about. You are asking for a solution? The solution should be to spend more money and cut interest rates during a recession. Unfortunately, Bush raided the rainy day fund and those options are off the table.
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    I’ll concede that since Obama reappointed Bernanke, he really can’t complain about interest rate constraints.

  • pintortwo

    Obama wants to save $40 billion by eliminating tax preferences for oil, gas and coal companies, which may be about as doable as health care reform, considering the power of those industry lobbies on Capitol Hill.
    .
    It’s sad that we have to talk about potential legislation in terms of lobby power rather than whether or not it is a smart idea. Michael, I suspect, is right.

  • conversets

    Republicans are still blaming Carter for the economy 32 years after he left the presidency–
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/20/ibd-carter-more-blame-financial-crisis-bush-or-mccain
    –but god forbid the Democrats should blame Bush after one year for problems that are obviously of his making.

  • hotbbq

    Leave it to a politician to misquote someone for the sake of spin. The actual quote is “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”. Notice his replacement of ‘same’ with ‘wrong’ and ‘different results’ with ‘change’. If you are doing the same thing repeatedly, but it is working, does that still make you insane?

  • kevin

    As long as Republicans are insisting on the same policies that got us into this mess — massive tax cuts geared to the rich, runaway spending with no PAYGO fix, etc. etc. — then, yes, it’s important to keep pointing out that those policies did in fact get us into this mess.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Hey stupid, I asked for a solution. You gave me more of the same.
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    Let’s tax the living bejeezuz out of the super rich. And by all means lets discontinue the tax cuts for those making over 250,000 dollars. That’ll fix it. Yeah….

  • square1

    MS, could you do us a favor and comment on how the self-professed “deficit hawks” — you know the Republicans and Blue Dogs who are so concerned about the “mid term failure to be responsible” — are the corrupt scumbags who have stifled every reasonable effort to constrain the growth of “entitlements”?
    .
    They opposed single-payer. They opposed the public option. They fought for the weakest possible health-care exchanges. They fought drug importation. They fought purchasing drugs at Medicare rates. They fought for the more expensive Medicare Advantage. And they fought federally-imposed cost controls.
    .
    They also are the leading opponents of cuts to defense spending. The leading opponents of oversight over government contractors. And the leading opponents to punishing contractors that defraud the government.
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    And, it should go without saying, the leading opponents to raising taxes to close the deficit.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Umm, did you say it’s working?

  • square1

    Obama still wants the Bush Tax Cuts to expire on schedule in 2011 for those who make more than $250,000, and he wants to expand the “Make-Work-Pay” tax credit one more year, providing hundreds of dollars in rebates to most of the middle class.

    If Obama really wanted to “Make-Work-Pay” he could cut middle-class taxes further and make it up by eliminating the lower capital-gains tax rate that punishes wage earners.

  • hotbbq

    No. I’m merely asking if doing the right thing repeatedly makes you insane. Gregg completely changed the intended meaning of the quote.

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  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Doing the right thing uh, usually makes things better. I see nothing changing except for the worst. What is your definition of the “right thing”?

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  • hotbbq

    Ugh, Republicans. Take off your freaking partisan hat for a moment and reread what I wrote. Again, I am only trying to demonstrate that he changed the quote, thus changing the intended meaning.I am not commenting on the soundness of policy.

  • freeinpa

    Obama slams partisanship on Congress for not being able to agree on any budget cuts. His solution? Name a Commission (at what cost?) made of Democrats and Republicans to submit non-binding suggestions to the same Congress.

    Brilliant! I think another Nobel prize is in order.

  • hotbbq

    Obama slams partisanship on Congress for not being able to agree on any budget cuts.

    What?

  • nathan7777

    He’s cancelling NASA’s Constellation program (returning to the moon and mars) and replacing it with research and commercial space investment. Nice (sarcasm). I’m sorry but the next generation is not going to get excited about commercial cargo transportation to the space station or robotic exploration of our solar system. There’s a reason why “astronaut” is high on the list of what kids want to be when they grow up and “robot operator” is not.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Nice try Kevin. Loaning money to millions of people who obviousely couldn’t afford to pay it back is what got us into this, and that started long before Bush came along. Can you say Fannie and Freddie? Bush and Mccain both raised red flags repeatedly, as far back as ’03, only to be shouted down more loudly than anything Joe Wilson could muster. I am not holding my party blameless, not by a long shot. They saw the problem but did not take the neccesary steps to rein it in. This administration is doing even less. We spent money we didn’t have, so let’s spend more money we don’t have to fix it. And when it continues to drive us into the ground we’ll just blame Bush some more.

  • hotbbq

    There’s a reason why “astronaut” is high on the list of what kids want to be when they grow up and “robot operator” is not.

    Yeah, but how many actually become astronauts? Look at it this as job stimulus for the sub-astronaut class.

  • nathan7777

    It doesnt matter that only a small percentage of them actually become astronauts. The desire alone drives many to pursue fields heavy in science, math, and technology, which is important for the quality of our workforce. It’s not a job stimulus. A lot of the people who will end up working on the commercial side of space will come from Constellation. It will be the same people, but now you have a less visable program with less obvious rewards. China, Japan, India, and Russia have all stated plans to land on the moon or exploit the resources of the moon. Where are we going to be? Stuck in a research lab? We need research, but we also need a viable ambitious exploration program. Constellation was behind schedule and over budget, but only because the promised increases in funding never came. This is a terrible terrible decision. His space advisor, Lori Garver, is an idiot.

  • 3xfire3

    It’s simply amazing how many people on the left will want strict interpretation of the Constitution when it comes to defending the rights of terrorist. These same people, including the president, are willing to work around the strict interpretation if it will allow them to achieve their progressive agenda.
    The site is now 95% liberal and ultra-liberal. At best you make up maybe 20% of the American electorate. This doesn’t make for much real debate on the issues. It is a leftist love fest.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    What wage-earners are you referring to square? Tell me how lower capital gains taxes will punish wage earners.

  • hotbbq

    Your sarcasm meter is broken.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    A slobbering leftist Obama love fest. Effin-A man, Effin-A

  • deconstructiva

    I know that totally unimportant nonsense about how to reduce 11% unemployment (17.5% real unemployment)

    It’s ok, stuart, go ahead and quote the real unemployment rate. Lest MS or others object it’s an official BLS rate too: the U-6, the broadest #. So why does BLS have so many U numbers? Why not one (U-6 would be most accurate)? Why sugarcoat the numbers and make them falsely look better? …oh wait, never mind. Also to remove any reporters’ objections here, their brethren at TIME’s biz section always quote the U-6.

  • hotbbq

    If you feel that way, by all means, don’t let the door hit your a$$es on the way out. Your considerable intellect and contributions won’t be missed.

  • nathan7777

    Yeah… it was on life support.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Ah there it is! That I’m better than you mentality that so defines the left.

  • square1

    Pretty simple, headfullofrocks.
    .
    In order to actually pay for government spending, then you have to raise revenue through taxes. However, because income from capital gains is taxed at a lower rate then you need to tax wages at a higher rate to make up the difference (or you need to cut services and/or borrow money, in which case wage earners are receiving fewer services for a given tax dollar).

  • hotbbq

    Let me sum up the Right for you. If you agree with the Democrats on anything, regardless how trivial, you are ultra-liberal. Zero perspective, zero accountability, zero usefulness.

    I don’t consider myself any better than anyone, period. I do feel, however, that I am better informed than most. I can’t help it if you have some kind of inferiority complex. If you’d even bother to actually read and attempt to understand what is being discussed you could contribute something worth while, regardless of position. If you want nothing more than to moan about “libruls”, you might be better served over at NRO, RedState, or the venerable FoxNews.

  • allthingsinaname

    “The mid term failure to be responsible, however, is what creditors care about, what economists say will impact interest rates, and where the Obama budget fails his own test of responsibility.”
    .

    Then comes next years budget which? Well that depends on how well we do this year, and what hole is found in Homeland Security that we have to plug, and which war we have to fight, and Congress on what useless defense spending they will not let go, and the public will clamour for a Tax break , and business will find a way to demand more and pay less, and of course education will have to go. The GOP will be right there with the best of them talking all bout how they fell our pain while they tell us to bend over. The way I see it the budget is good for a year if we are lucky.

  • square1

    Thank you, headfullofrocks, for providing what must be the most laughably idiotic explanation for the financial crisis.

  • kevin

    Sweet Jesus, that was some impressive babble 2/3. Did you cobble that together from Hannity and the back of some oatmeal packets?

  • 3xfire3

    hotbbq,
    If I and the couple moderates and conservatives didn’t post to this site you would be left looking in the mirror and talking to yourself. Even then you would probably disagree and call the person in the mirror names. Your only known weapon.
    Facts can be so inconvenient to know it alls on the left.

  • kevin

    I have no idea either. I’ve read it three times and still can’t sort any sense out of it.
    .
    It’s like someone wrote a sentence in English, and then freeinpa just rearranged the words into some kind of random order.

  • pintortwo

    (People on the left), including the president, are willing to work around the strict interpretation (of the Constitution) if it will allow them to achieve their progressive agenda. -3x
    .
    Can you elaborate?
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    A slobbering leftist Obama love fest. -2/3s
    .
    You too, please. Most progressives (here included) seem to criticize the president.

  • kevin

    Could you point out the “facts” in your original comment? It’s nothing but projection, distortion, and flat out lying.
    .
    No liberal has used “strict construction” as a reason for giving terrorists rights of any kind. We simply think — as the Bush administration thought, and as Gen. Petraeus and Adm. Mullen and most of the military still thinks — that al-Qaeda doesn’t deserve the honor of military tribunals and that we can convict these new thugs like we could the old ones. Moussaoi was convicted by a civilian court; KSM would be too.
    .
    Then you pull a bunch of percentages out of your behind — we’re 95% ultraliberal! society is 20% liberal! — and spit venom.
    .
    You wouldn’t know a fact if it hit you on the head.

  • hotbbq

    /facepalm

    You can lead a horse to water….

  • newfreedomblog

    “In order to actually pay for government spending, then you have to raise revenue through taxes. However, because income from capital gains is taxed at a lower rate then you need to tax wages at a higher rate to make up the difference (or you need to cut services and/or borrow money, in which case wage earners are receiving fewer services for a given tax dollar).”

    .
    Of course there are other ways to decrease taxes for both wages and captial gains, and increase the dollars into the treasury.
    .
    Simply throw out the entire IRS system. Enact legislation that provides for a flat tax for all individuals and entities, period. No more deductions for all sorts of frivilious things, pay a simple % of your wages. 1%, 2% or eve 3% as Federal Tax. This includes all businesses and non-profits as well doing business in the United States. The higher the wages or profits, the higher the percentage.
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    Another “tax” could be a Federal Sales Tax of 1%, 2% or even 3% on any purchase made. Again, it is very fair and uncomplicated. Depending on what product it is you could also implement a tax on imports of 1%, 2% or 3% which cannot be passed onto the consumer.
    .
    But, spending must be curtailed and controlled. A complete review of all programs and their budgets. A review of what the program is doing for the people of this country, and if it is found to be squandering or giving away money needlessly then stop it.
    .
    Then pass legislation that requires a balanced budget. Money in equals money out, period. Paygo or whatever else you want to call it.
    .
    After a year or two, this country would have more money than they knew what to do with it. You could possibly eliminate wage taxes, and taxes paid on behalf of workers by businesses. You may even be able to afford providing health care to every single American citizen.
    .
    Imagine that!!

  • 3xfire3

    nathan7777
    You are correct in your analysis. The U.S. has gained more benefits from the technologies learned and developed through the space program then it has cost over time. The technologies learned and inventions gained have created hundreds of tech companies and millions of job in the U.S. We need a strong space program or we will fall behind in technology to other countries and they will develop the jobs of the future.
    Keep up the good posts.

  • blindbutsee

    The first thing politicians need to do is stop all the bickering and fingerpointing and get down to business. Politics is the art of compromise. You don’t always get what you want. Democrats and Republicans will have to give up some things they really want but, in return, they will get other things they really want. Each party should list all the things they want to do, prioritize them and then get to work and compromise!

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    “what they want” is the whole problem.
    How about what the people want?

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    No, I thunk it up using my own mind, and from what I see with my own two eyes. You should maybe give it a try sometime. Start by disengaging your lips from B.O’s sphincter.
    .
    Dammit, I tried to be civil.

  • http://malvaflores.wordpress.com malvaflores

    Has anyone taken notice of the absurdity of the cancellation of the Constellations program? This will put tens of thousands of people out of work, especially bad with the wrap up of the Shuttle program. How’s that for a job creation program. It will take years, if ever, to have a viable private space program. The cost and risk is too high for any one industry to take on without government “nuturing”. Meanwhile generations of technical minds are lost. This is a President whose stance was to keep jobs in America, but is promoting outsourcing the space industry to India, Russia, and China. What is the point of our education system producing more scientist and engineers? I know, the students are all from Asia, Russia, and the Middle East. It is a sad state we are in and Obama has made it so much worse. How much harm can someone do in a year – it boggles the mind!

  • dwp19542004

    obama osama is a murder he is killing american children’s futures..all they have to look forward to is welfare food stamps a burden on society he is killing more american soldiers in afghanistan then 8 years of bush….must make liberals all giddy in side to kill american soldiers…hell if he was in Nam he would have been fragged by now……

  • hotbbq

    Wow. The wing nuts are on parade today, no?

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Yes they are Mr. Peabody. Millions strong and growing. Intellectuals beware!

  • allthingsinaname

    What is this some kind of threat Zthirdsrocks? Man some kind of A$$hole.

  • hotbbq

    Millions strong and growing.

    Sounds like an infection.

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:
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    Thank you so very much for responding to commentary, even commentary that is harshly critical to the point of implying that you write solely for the Beltway cocktail party circuit, and filled with needless, bitter sarcasm.
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    Without trying to get into debate, I’d just like to go over your points, in order to clarify what may have been lost in my silly invective:

    The second and third round stimuli have been much discussed elsewhere, and I mention them here in passing.

    There can be no discussion of “getting tough on the deficit” without a discussion of the history of the effects of switching to Hooverism in the midst of double-digit unemployment as far as the eye can see. Even rhetoric attempting to “look like he is tough on the deficit” isn’t worthy of examination without mentioning the current predicament in which we find ourselves, where monetary policy seems designed to prop up home values (and therefore banks’ balance sheets), and other debt-crash waves are on the horizon.
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    As long as middle-term deficit predictions hing on growth and revenue predictions, these subjects are inextricable, anyway.

    My point, I guess, is that when we are talking about the president’s budget we should be talking about the mid-term impact. That’s how economists look at it, at least.

    I know that’s how many economists look at it. These are some of the same people who, when you ask them about the Fed’s obsession on keeping inflation where it is instead of reducing unemployment, will shrug their shoulders and say “eventually unemployment should fall off to reasonably normal levels.”
    .
    I disagree that the role of journalists should be to communicate the priorities of the creditor class during an economic crisis. It’s like asking a condo development architect about how Haiti’s infrastructure should be rebuilt, instead of focusing on how far the clean water aid has made it from the airport and the coast.
    .
    There’s still wave after wave of foreclosures to come, Michael Scherer, and so far the Administration and Fed’s policies have led to triumphant recovery data such as this (link to Bloomberg) :

    Bank of America Corp. and Morgan Stanley are encouraging clients to buy swaps that pay higher yields for speculating on the extent of losses in corporate defaults. Trading in credit- default swap indexes rose in the fourth quarter for the first time since 2008, according to Depository Trust & Clearing Corp. data. Federal Reserve data show leverage, or borrowed money, is rising in capital markets.

    What does that say about what’s to come?

    The short term job forgiven stuff is forgiven, mostly, if you ignore the right wing conflation of issues.

    Of course it can be forgiven, apart from how milquetoast and ineffective it is at actually solving the jobs gone forever/homes irreparably underwater/credit ruined forever part of the economic crisis. That’s a pretty strange way to look at what can be “forgiven,” Michael Scherer, unless you’re obsessing about what interests creditors, and not what interests the people who are coping with the recent failures of creditors, and, you know, are deciding how much they ice cream they can afford for their kids’ birthday parties, or whether it doesn’t matter, since they’re going to lose their homes anyway, once the ARM resets next quarter.
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    Of course federal spending to spur economic activity during a massive downturn can be forgiven, Michael Scherer! It’s what the government is for! It just can’t be forgiven for wasting money in symbolic, ineffective stimulative spending that happens to lard political friends’ pockets.


    The long term is an entitlement issue, which cannot be dealt with by presidential fiat.

    This Administration’s failure to insist on, demand, set goals for, or even clearly enunciate health care reform policy that addressed the price of US health care is what leaves us with most of our entitlement issues. OK, Congress has failed, too, but so what?


    The mid term failure to be responsible, however, is what creditors care about, what economists say will impact interest rates, and where the Obama budget fails his own test of responsibility.

    The latter seems to be your real point, Michael Scherer.
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    Interest rates are at near zero, so they’ve got to rise, unless we’re trying to compete with China by devaluing both our and their currencies. You know this.
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    What creditors care about means zero in the absence of policies that put the middle class of this nation on a secure path to sustaining American standards of living, instead of further thinning the herd. With no healthy, large (and growing) consumer class in the US, none of this debt means anything, because there’s no future for anyone.
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    That leaves us with analysis to show us “where the Obama budget fails his own test of responsibility“.
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    I guess I’m asking you not to worry so much about hoisting this Administration on its own petard, for a change, which you can always revert to for amusements’ sake, it’s not like these people are geniuses or particularly honest.
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    I guess I’m asking you to care (in your capacity as a journalist) about whether or not the Administration fails our test of responsibility, not their own official “test of responsibility.”
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    If you still don’t get what I’m asking for, think of how divorced from reality Bush II’s metrics for the Iraqi government’s improvement were, and how the political press corps’ focus on those hurt efforts to disseminate real-world, comprehensive analysis of the situation there. It didn’t ultimately matter whether those metrics were met 90% or 70% or 40%, because those reflected domestic political goals, not reality.
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    Likewise with the Obama Administration’s deficit theater. You can focus on what takes place behind the proscenium’s fourth wall, or you can take a look around at who the audience is composed of, Michael Scherer, and who’s standing in the doorways in 2007′s formal attire, now unable to even afford the cheap seats.
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    Thanks again for responding to this sort of commentary, Michael Scherer, and for taking the trouble to understand different perspectives on your important work.

  • apr2563

    Stuart: There are times when I don’t agree with you, there are times I don’t understand you (not your fault, mine). This time I not only agree with you 100% but understand you too.
    What scares me is that over the last 30 years the middle class has been systematically dismantled. From the time of the depression a middle class was built. It was the engine of our growth and success.

  • apr2563

    hotbbq: Please tell 2third for me, since I am not allowed to respond to him because I am an old hag with saggy boobs, that he is right. Most everyone on this blog is superior to him and he proves it everytime he comments. He should find a more welcoming place to post. Or, he already does join in the invective found on freeper sites.

  • apr2563

    Unfortunately, I fear, Joe Klein’s STUPID post about the stupidity of Americans came to Glenn Beck’s attention. He sicced the mouth breathers onto this site. It appears some have stuck around.

  • stuartzechman

    apr2563:
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    Thanks for reading through all of that.
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    I know there are times when we will disagree, and I will fail to state things simply enough to communicate effectively, and I appreciate you still taking the time to read this commentary.
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    It’s not necessarily that the middle-class has been dismantled, but that the policies that brought about and kept the middle class have been dismantled. Part of this is the fault of the movement conservative Republicans, part is the fault of New Democrats’ policies under Clinton, and part is the fault of liberals for having abandoned comprehensive policies in favor of anti-poverty policies.
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    When we started to settle for programs that helped the least economically advantaged among us (but nobody else) we failed the middle class, and failed our own chances of enacting New Deal II when we needed it again.
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    When we let our motivation for health care reform be “the 31 million uninsured” –as if this were an anti-poverty program, as opposed to a Social Security framework for better, cheaper health care– we lost right then and there.
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    There’s a great many liberal Democrats who somehow feel bad about advocating for government policies to help themselves and their middle-class neighbors, who somehow feel as if that’s too selfish, that they should really be concerned for others. This, along with GOP caricatures on national security, is why the Democrats are called the “mommy party”. This kind of self-abnegating altruism puts the middle-class in the role of “helpers” and the poor in the role of “helped”, instead of industry and finance in the role of despots, hoarders and profiteers, and everyone else in the role of standing together for ourselves.
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    Thus the great majority of Americans have been let down over the past thirty years, and the policies that were enacted in their interests have been eroded and erased, apr2563.

  • hotbbq

    That would definitely explain it. Now that you mention it I don’t recognize many of these bloviator’s usernames.

  • apr2563

    I guess he to whom I dare not respond because I am old and have saggy breasts is saying the intelligent (intellectuals) must be scared, the stupids are coming.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    My humblest apologies for the breast thing Apr. I know of you’re misfortune.
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    That said, you’re still a bleeding heart idiot.
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    Feel free to third person me some more. I could use the laugh.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    More like a defection, hotnuts. From blue to red.
    Glen Beck for president!

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