Justice Samuel Alito Objects To President Obama’s Supreme Court Criticism

The most surprising moment in the House Chamber Tuesday night came not from House Minority Leader John Boehner’s frequent gesticulation, but from the subtle exchange between Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito and President Obama.

It started when Obama offered a surprisingly blunt criticism of the Supreme Court’s recent ruling that corporate and union money should be allowed to influence elections.

With all due deference to separation of powers, last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests, including foreign corporations, to spend without limit in our elections.

The Supreme Court gets a front row seat at these events, and Samuel Alito, the second most junior justice, did not look pleased with Obama’s criticism. He shook his head twice, and appeared to mouth the words, “Not true.” John Aravosis, at Americablog, points to a video of the exchange.

Aravosis calls Alito’s behavior highly inappropriate, saying the court is “not supposed to respond to anything, lest it show bias.” Via Twitter, Glenn Greenwald claims with typical panache that “Justice Alito breached protocol in a more serious way than Joe Wilson did.” I don’t believe the hype.

It’s one thing for a justice to take public sides on a political issue–which would be surprising, and problematic if the issue later came before them in court. It’s another thing altogether for a justice to disagree with a criticism of his own published legal reasoning. That seems pretty fair game. After all, we pay judges to concoct and defend their legal reasoning. Plus, the justices, which form an independent branch of government, have a lot of leeway to do whatever they please. That’s the whole point of their independence.

Nor is it true that members of the Supreme Court sit stone-faced through these events. They just tend not to applaud the political lines, much like the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Alito and the other justices were applauding heartily when Obama entered the chamber, for instance. No harm there. Ruth Bader Ginsburg gave Obama a full-on hug, as they exchanged pleasantries.

The more interesting point raised by Alito’s subtle exchange with Obama is a substantive one. Is what Obama said really not true? Was Alito objecting to the “century of law” claim, or to the “floodgates” claim? I don’t know enough about the case to answer that question, and since it is 1 a.m., I am going to sleep. But I can’t wait to find out tomorrow.

UPDATE: In the clear light of day, it seems that Alito had a point. See here for an explanation of the justice’s turn as a presidential fact checker.

Related Topics: samuel alito, state of the union, Supreme Court, Barack Obama
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  • shakrai

    Mr. Scherer:
    .
    It’s my understanding that the law against corporate donations to political campaigns remains intact and was not impacted by this ruling.
    .
    What the ruling did address was a prohibition on corporate speech in the form of TV ads, mass mailings, etc. Few people realize that this prohibition applied to political advocacy organizations (think the NRA, ACLU, Sierra Club, and similar outfits) as well as for-profit corporations.
    .
    Few would argue that we need to limit corporate influence on our electoral process but if the law was written so broadly as to catch advocacy organizations then I don’t see how it was defensible against a 1st amendment challenge.
    .
    It’s not just about free speech either. The 1st amendment also protects the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. One of the more effective ways to do that is to assemble with like minded individuals. These individuals form organizations like the ones mentioned above. What good is the 1st amendment if the FEC can prohibit an organization like the Sierra Club from engaging in the political process? In 2006 the FEC fined the Sierra Club for releasing brochures contrasting the environmental views of various candidates running for office in the 2004 election.
    .
    On the same topic, I found it somewhat distressing that the President would use his bully pulpit at the State of the Union to criticize the Supreme Court. I don’t think it represents any real challenge to the independence of the Judiciary (as some will claim) but it seems like a breach of decorum and at odds with the “new tone” that the President wants Washington to adopt.

  • lexsah

    Much ado about nothing. But seriously, after an hour of the SOTU address and this is what people squabble over?

  • the committee

    Wouldn’t it be a substantive issue regardless of whether Alito busted out like a Jersey Shore thug with a bulletproof hairdo? Or does something only become a substantive issue when some right-wing ballsack gets uppity?
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    Judging by the tone of the post, it’s obviously the latter. I would argue that decorum *is* actually interesting here, since Alito has not only overturned a century of law, but also two centuries of protocol.
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    Still, let’s have this substantive discussion. I look forward to stripping away the ridiculous things we’re supposed to believe about the politically-appointed but not at all political supreme court.

  • ohiolib

    I hate to break it to Obama, but the whole campaign finance system in this country is so ludicrously complicated, and boasts more holes than a block of swiss cheese, that this ruling will probably be a tempest in a teapot. While this ruling will almost certainly mean more outside money in elections, I doubt it will be a significant boost; as long as 501(c)s and PACs are allowed free reign to run their own ads (which they will be for the foreseeable future) then all this ruling does is provide shortcuts for the money. At least, that’s my take.

  • shakrai

    since Alito has not only overturned a century of law, but also two centuries of protocol.
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    If it was bad law it deserved to be overturned, regardless of how old it was.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Phew! Glad that this is the takeaway from the SOTU. I’d been afraid that there were substantive issues to worry about!
    -
    And thank goodness it turns out that in the eyes of the MSM, the GOP figure is right and liberal bloggers are wrong! It’s just like invading Iraq, the housing bubble, the size of the stimulus, the Valerie Plame story, and pretty much everything else that’s ever happened.

  • shakrai

    How many more times do you think you can play the “Bush sucked” card before people get sick of hearing it? I realize it’s effective at getting the base out and raising money but it’s not a strategy to govern.
    .
    I find it interesting that the President talked about the need to change the tone and how he’s not interested in relitigating the past and then undercut his own message by taking a swipe at SCOTUS and stating “the facts” about the last eight years.
    .
    I think most Americans whom don’t think Palin should be President would agree that Bush left a horrible mess behind. So what are you going to do to fix it, Mr. President?

  • the committee

    Look, shakri, I feel you, but you need to understand that the noun “Bush” and the verb “to suck” go together in every tense, past and future; it’s not limited to the preterite. It’s not just that Bush sucked; Bush still sucks. Before he sucked, he had been sucking. After he’d been sucking, he continued to suck. We know he would have sucked, because he did, and long, long into the future, he will have sucked. There is simply no escaping Bush’s sucking. Even Barack Obama won’t be able to fix that.

  • apollyon07

    Oh my God get a freaking grip. This is not a big deal at all. I just wish Scalia had done this instead.

  • slaneyblack

    I have this fun little game I play called “Guess the Swamplander”. I skip the byline and guess who wrote it just from the prose.
    .
    This one stumped me for a few paragraphs (AmericaBlog? Not your average Villager-fare) but then came the money shot…
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    It’s one thing…which would be surprising, and problematic if…later…It’s another thing altogether…That seems pretty fair game. After all, we pay ____ to ____. Plus…
    .
    Marvel, friends, with me at this coprophagic masterpiece of syntax. Switch in any mad lib substantives you like – it doesn’t matter! The very grammatical structure itself cries out of its own accord in honeyed tones redolent of bad faith and weasels, and all the time a resounding drone of lumpen-Slateisch contrarianism hums in the background.
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    Yes, friends: rightist enabling woven into the very fabric of language itself!
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    Of course, it’s Scherer.

  • jcapan

    Will have to see if GG bothers to expand on the Tweet, but I’d hope he stands by his earlier post about the Wilson drama here:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/09/11/politico

    Excerpt:

    “As HTML Mencken insightfully noted in what is one of the best blog posts ever written, our political mores demand vehement repudiation of petty acts of incivility (not all, but most) while tolerating and even approving of extremely consequential acts of indecency as long as they’re advocated with superficial civility. Those who use curse words to oppose torture, wars and lawbreaking are evil and unSerious (The Angry Left); those who politely and soberly advocate morally repugnant, indecent policies are respected and Serious. As long as one adheres to Beltway decorum, one can advocate the most amoral and even murderous policies without any repercussions whatsoever; it is only disruptive and impolite behavior that generates intense upset. Beltway culture hates “incivility” (public use of bad words) but embraces full-scale substantive indecency (torture, lawbreaking, unjustified wars, ownership of government by corporations, etc.)”

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    http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/002710.html

  • the committee

    So funny. I play the same game. If it’s full of grammatical impossibilities, outdated beltway jargon, and misspellings, it’s Joe Klein. Understated and sensible is Tumulty. Scherer’s posts are the ones that rev to 6000 RPMs but stay in first gear. (Scherer posts usually end with a clunk, indicating the transmission has fallen off.)

  • paulciske

    This is nothing, I didn’t even see it the first time and when the pundits talked about it, both my wife and I missed it on the replay. It was a subtle sign of disagreement, nothing more. Similarly, the pundits were talking about how stoic the Joint Chiefs looked as the President spoke on gays in the military as if these guys were a ball of emotion through the rest of the speech. The punditry is trying to make issues where there are none. This is a shame as there are many real issues out there.

  • Paul-no not that one

    How is Mrs Alito holding up?

  • square1

    A more pressing question. Was Thomas able to stay awake?

  • Matt

    Can you imagine the outage from the Right if a liberal justice had done this to George Bush, or in a horrible future where Sarah Palin is president?

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • shakrai

    Can you imagine the outrage (there’s an ‘R’ in that word) from the Left if a Republican President had used his bully pulpit at the State of the Union to criticize a SCOTUS ruling that was handed down by the Liberal wing of the court?

  • hotbbq

    I’m not sure what to think about this. Hopefully a corporation will sponsor a commercial and make up my mind for me.

  • shakrai

    I know you are only joking, but if you actually were so weak minded as to have your mind made up by a single commercial then no law we can pass is going to protect you.

  • sy2d

    Stick to gossip.

  • xxception

    While I believe there is too much money in play in politics, the problem is in how the laws have been written. It has been ruled time and again that companies have the same freedom of speech rights as individuals. The problem with the law was it infringed upon those rights. We can’t throw out our principles simply because we believe the cause to be right. The ends do NOT justify the means.

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  • hotbbq

    That’s the crux of the problem isn’t it? Most people I encounter are highly susceptible to this kind of political propaganda. They might have a general sense of an issue, but they don’t have the desire to dig any deeper.

  • shakrai

    The Founders warned us about the dangers of mob rule and democracy. That’s why they created a Constitutional Republic with checks and balances.
    .
    Either way, I don’t think the fact that you deem certain people to be “highly susceptible” to “political propaganda” serves as sufficient justification to gut the 1st amendment.

  • http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com Ned Netterville

    I didn’t catch Obama’s speech. I was too busy watching the hilarious side show in the 100-Acre Wood taking place immediately behind him. Nancy Pelosi was mimicing Tigger (bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy), bounding to her feet every time Obama paused for applause or just for a breath, and dragging a morose Eeyore–whoops, make that Joe Biden–reluctantly to his feet with her. Nancy as Speaker was obviously bent on leading the audience to establishing a new record for standing Os, while Joe just wanted to remain seated and somberly detached. He was visibly embarrassed by Nancy’s undignified imitation of a Dallas-Cowboys cheerleader, and Nancy was obviously upset with Joe’s for his lack of fawning enthusiasm for the president’s speech. Anyone else catch that show?

  • omgamike

    I simply ask what about foreign owned corporations? Why would they be entitled to first amendment protections? Do we not have to draw the line somewhere (with due respect to the first amendment)?

  • shakrai

    Why should enemy combatants whose only connection to our country is the desire to destroy it receive Constitutional protections?

  • shakrai

    I caught it a few times. It was pretty undignified on her part I thought. I did enjoy watching Biden’s facial expressions throughout though.

  • http://www.xanga.com/Amythist_Malaise sheila0405

    The breach was not committed by Justice Alito, but by the President. President Obama showed open disdain of the separation of powers. The in your face criticism of the Court, who were invited guests to the speech, was absolutely rude. If any guest in my home treated another guest with such contempt, I would certainly have something to say about it. The fact that it was the President is especially embarrassing. But President Obama’s remarks reveal just how he really feels about the Constitution. God forbid that the document get in his way. From his statement that he will circumvent the Senate by way of executive order to his rebuke of the Court to his determination to defy the Joint Chiefs of Staff on the gay issue, the President proves that he believes he alone knows what is best for the nation, and he will stop at nothing to get his own way.

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