Anatomy of Anger (Cont’d.)

The President last night did not spell out a tactical way forward for his struggling health reform initiative, but he did make the case for a comprehensive bill. And I was struck by his frank admission that the process of getting there has turned off the American people:

Still, this is a complex issue, and the longer it was debated, the more skeptical people became. I take my share of the blame for not explaining it more clearly to the American people. And I know that with all the lobbying and horse-trading, the process left most Americans wondering, “What’s in it for me?”

It was almost an echo of something I had heard a few days before the election from a longtime veteran of the Kennedy operation in Massachusetts:

Rather than being drafted with the common good in mind, they said, the health bill was turning into a series of backroom deals — a Medicaid exemption for Senator Ben Nelson’s Nebraska, tax breaks for unions, sweeteners for the hospital and drug industries. As a veteran of the Kennedy political operation put it, “They think there’s a lot coming out of Washington — and none of it is for them.”

Which brings me back, yet again, to the “Cornhusker Kickback.”

Greg Marx of the Columbia Journalism Review has questioned my suggestion that this one provision was all that damaging. I was a little taken aback by his assertion that talking to voters about what they are thinking is outdated. I think this passage in particular patronizes both me and the voters themselves:

The problem, as other commentators have noted over the past few days, is that this sort of shoe-leather reporting may presume an outdated model of voter decision-making.

Much political journalism assumes that voters approach a campaign with a set of concerns they want to see addressed. Over the course of a campaign, they follow the news so they can weigh the candidates’ platforms and their performance on the stump against those concerns. And at the end of the campaign, if you stop a voter on the street, or in a barbershop, and ask why he made the choice he did, he’ll be able to tell you.

But we have reasons to be skeptical that this is actually how voters get information and make decisions. People’s views on political issues are influenced by the messages they absorb from elite opinion-makers, who are increasingly polarized and have an increasingly national reach. And voters’ ability to identify the factors that shaped their choices is limited.

Of course, I did not limit my reporting to man-on-the-street interviews. I never do. I looked at poll results, and talked to strategists. I heard from people who were working phone banks. But I still think there’s a value to occasionally switching off the cable news and talking to people.

And guess what? I’m not the only one who has come around to the belief that Massachusetts voters were turned off by Ben Nelson’s sweetheart deal. Yes, it was a Republican talking point–but it was one that resonated. As one senior White House official said yesterday in advance of the State of the Union address, it was “a galvanizing event. … We need to be mindful of that moving forward.”* Nancy Pelosi said that getting that provision taken out of the bill will be one of the top demands that her members make. “That has to be fixed,” she said.

So call me outdated, but I’m going to continue talking to voters whenever I get the chance. You never know. Sometimes, they might figure out things even before the talking heads do.

*UPDATE: It’s worth pointing out that Obama’s words last night and this comment from a White House official mark a change in tone from the initial reaction to the deal at 1600 Pennsylvania:

Mr. Axelrod said the provisions benefiting specific states, like Nebraska, and favored constituencies were a natural part of the legislative process.

“Every senator uses whatever leverage they have to help their states,” Mr. Axelrod said on the CNN program “State of the Union.” “That’s the way it has been. That’s the way it will always be.”

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  • Paul-no not that one

    Anatomy of your anger?

    I encourage readers to follow the CJR link. It’s a bit more than “talking to voters about what they are thinking is outdated.”

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    And so was my reporting.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “it so closely tracks what I was seeing up there anecdotally:”
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    “But the number of people I talked to.”
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    “Voters I talked to”"
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    This is from your post that CJR is writing about.
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    This is the sentence after your block quote
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    “With these background concepts in mind, here’s a possible alternate explanation for Tumulty’s experience: the people she was encountering were, for one reason or another, Brown voters (and likely health care opponents)”
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    It’s hardly a repudiation of reporters talking to voters
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    “Tumulty, after all, did exactly what we’re always exhorting the press to do: she got out of the Beltway bubble and talked to voters on the ground.”
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    It’s about reporting WHY the voters are saying what they are saying.
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    “if the language voters use to talk about their choices is lifted from the Beltway conversation, even as local factors continue to play a role in determining elections, the value of that approach is less clear.”

  • hellslittlestangel

    Correction:
    “the process of not getting there has turned off the American people.”

    The backroom wheeling and dealing in this case doesn’t anger me. What angers me is the faux outrage over it of the right-wing machine, as if this were not the way things have been done in this republic for a couple of hundred years. That, and the absence of wheeling and dealing, replaced by strutting, posturing and bloviating, which accomplish nothing. Please, more wheeling, dealing and, to keep things lively, a little head-bashing would be nice.

    And, yes, while I still believe in Obama, I think he’s a major player in the strutting, posturing and bloviating game. Here’s how I’d like him to open his meeting with the Republican leadership next month:

    “What is that which gives me joy? Baseball! “

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    I think that passage from Obama’s speech, the quote I cite from the White House official, and Pelosi’s determination to get this provision out of the bill suggest that they have come around to thinking (1) this resonated with voters and (2) the voters are right. Part of political reporting is figuring out things like that–the dynamics that are driving the electorate. Again, in my post, I cited the poll results–which seemed to bear out what I was hearing.

  • Paul-no not that one

    It’s as if you are looking for insult where there isn’t one.
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    This is the end of their story-
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    “We do need sharp reporters like Tumulty out there talking to voters, seeing which messages get picked up, and searching for those nuggets that don’t come from a list of talking points. At the same time, though, the press should be skeptical of easy explanations—and humble about its ability to figure out why things happen in the world of politics.”
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    You read that as “talking to voters about what they are thinking is outdated.”
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    This is near Joe Klein silliness level.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Between Joe Klein lamenting the lack of education in America, Micheal Scherer pointing out how ‘something for nothing’ is hardwired into our democracy and Karen Tumulty pointing out how a small piece of a large puzzle can turn an election, it would appear that you guys are on to something.

    Since I think the problem is basic to human nature, I don’t see any easy solutions but the problem can be stated simply. Our current system of TeeVee and politicing hands the greatest amount of power to the people who pay the least attention.

  • kbanginmotown

    @KT & Paul-NNTO:

    The section of the CJR article that resonated with me was:

    …here’s a possible alternate explanation for Tumulty’s experience: the people she was encountering were, for one reason or another, Brown voters (and likely health care opponents). And, over the course of the campaign, they had “learned” the “right” reasons to vote for Brown, who had made the “backroom deal[] in Nebraska” part of his message. Kevin Drum, who offers a different reading of the Post poll, speculates that “the people who brought it up were almost certainly primarily conservatives who listen to conservative media and have been getting an earful of these outrages on an hourly basis for weeks… These are mostly the same people who have been opposed to [health care reform] from the start.” And Jon Bernstein, making the same point, writes that “What [Tumulty’s post] misses is that if it wasn’t Nelson’s deal that the talk radio yakkers were gabbing about, it would have been the deal with Louisiana, or if not that then perhaps it would be death panels, or something else.”

    This tracks with my experience talking to RW friends and neighbors in the fall of 2008: everyone with an AM radio knew who Bill Ayers was and that Obama “pals around” with this “domestic terrorist”. Oh, and that ACORN was a subversive group and was not to be trusted.
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    And, now that I’ve taken so much time and refreshed the Swamp, I see that Paul-NNTO has said essentially the same thing at #1.2. You go, Paul.

  • homerhk

    A few things:
    Nelson’s deal is/was hardly a reason to object to reform if you liked the idea – so I really find it difficult to see that people changed their mind about the bill because of the Nelson deal.

    That said, it did allow Republicans and the FDLers who wanted the bill killed to pollute the discussion sufficiently so that those on the fence would be put off.

    That said, the hypocrisy of all of this is, to me, absolutely astounding. Where was all the media disgust at much worse goings on in the Bush administration? This is not to say that it isn’t distasteful, but my impression is that the media are now much much more interested in small misdemeanours of the Obama administration while letting the Bush felonies slide without comment. Exhibit 1 on this is the lobbyist issue. The amount of lobbyists etc. in the Bush administration and the revolving door between private companies and the government were harldy commented on by the msm during the Bush administration but now, even in articles where Obama’s anti-lobbying rules are praised as being the toughest ever in any administration, there is media glee in pointing out the few individuals who have gotten waivers; as if that made the entire exercise invalid. why is this? I don’t know the answer, but I suspect that there is something to the idea that it is not only Republicans who want Obama to fail; FDLers have an interest in that failure too (because if Obama is right and enacts progressive reform in small steps, that basically undermines their reason for existing and exposes their bloviating for what it is).

    It’s all a bit disgusting to me as an outside observer – but hey ho.

  • Matt

    The speech touched on everything Americans have been expressing about both health care and Washington. It allowed Obama to show voters that he is listening and understands why they’re so frustrated. It was a top-notch performance.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • maurice2u

    “Our current system of TeeVee and politicking hands the greatest amount of power to the people who pay the least attention.”

    I liked that one, so I’ll hang onto it. Thanks! :) Thought Harry Truman’s was fitting after Obama’s recent speech as well:

    “The people can never understand why the President does not use his powers to make them behave. Well all the President is, is a glorified public relations man who spends his time flattering, kicking and kissing people to get them to do what they are supposed to do anyway.”

    And finally, this one came from an anonymous poster, but I liked it (pardon it is kinda long):

    ”I am not, as many believe us young Americans are, drunk on Obama’s promise because of some eloquent linguistic talent he possesses. Rather, I am soberly persuaded by a man who is willing to risk his own potentially Kennedy-esque popularity as the first black president, is willing to confirm (some) thinly veiled racist doubts if he fails, and willing to risk his entire presidency by attempting to change the political “rules,” will to risk this because he has decided that doing what he believes is best for this nation is more important than what will be written in the history books. I worried during his election, and still do, that because the hope he preached was so blindly and fanatically followed instead of truly understood, that the expectations he brought upon himself will be seen as sorely over-confident because we Americans are not living in the Utopia we mistakenly believed was promised.

    Stop being influenced by his charisma and listen to what he is actually trying to do. If you can do this, you logically will see, as I do, that his goals for this country may not be accomplished in four, or even eight years, and may never be. Despite this, the steps towards accomplishing these goals will certainly put us in a better place than where we were when he took office. So stop looking for sincerity in his promises by demanding instant results. You will not find it there.

    The sincerity is found in a man so determined, that his message and demeanor have not changed despite the insane extremes that would surely force the average person to cowardly abandon any sense of self just to please everyone. He went from being worshipped with the same desperation as Christ, to receiving a Noble Peace Prize for arguably NOTHING except reputation alone and the assumption that his future actions would confirm the award as just (both conditions he himself pointed out), to now being scathingly criticized as a liar because Americans are still in debt, because wars have not ceased to exist, because the earth has not returned to its pure state, and because he *gasp* cannot walk on water.

    To those who have either lost hope or always doubted, go buy yourselves some Hydroxycut and eat only from Taco Bell’s fresca menu–you’ll lose 50lbs in three days. I promise.”

    (Not bad,heh.)

  • artraveler

    President Obama should have said that they should have taken out their pay stubs from this year, last year and 2008 and look at their gross pay, the income taxes paid and the health insurance costs. For most people, their income didn’t change, their taxes have decreased since 2009 and their health insurance deduction has gone up each year, if they still have health insurance. That increase in health insurance was probably one reason that your gross income didn’t go up and with all of the Republican friends feeling that they need to take care of corporations, this is only going to get worse or the health insurance will disappear all together unless we do something. For those of you in rural areas, this may mean that your local hospitals may totally disappear.

    Mike Ross is in such an area and like many a “Blue Cross Dogs”, his stupidity is only confounded by the fact that he runs as a DINO, voting like a Republican in an area with 40% of the people totally uninsured. But he manages to get his BCBS money in a state where BCBS controls 80% of the market and there really isn’t much choice outside of the larger areas.

  • tjoyce994

    Good post.

  • gysgt213

    KT-He is not calling or suggesting you outdated. He is not saying or suggesting you did the wrong thing by getting out and talking to voters. At least that’s not what the message is that I get. It seems to me he is suggesting that some assumptions we all have made in the past about how voters arrive at their decisions may have changed.

  • freeinpa

    “So call me outdated, but I’m going to continue talking to voters whenever I get the chance.”
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    And his arrogance continues. Instead of talking to or more precisely AT the voters, maybe it is about time he listens to the voters. Nah they could never be as smart as the Messiah.

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    Mr. Axelrod said the provisions benefiting specific states, like Nebraska, and favored constituencies were a natural part of the legislative process.

    “Every senator uses whatever leverage they have to help their states,” Mr. Axelrod said on the CNN program “State of the Union.” “That’s the way it has been. That’s the way it will always be.”

    Mr. Axelrod gave the most succinct answer as to why the federal government should be kept out of most aspects of our lives.

  • deconstructiva

    KT, you don’t need to defend yourself. Were there no exit polls in MA? I’d still challenge the possible CJR’s leather pump / high heel = outdated reporting model thingy. Going there in person will gather more info, period. Local teevee news people are out on the street every day. If I started a political blog (the first thing I’d do is come here and blogwhore it, but I digress) and all I relied on were teevee talking heads and sensationalist dead-tree headlines, the result would be …well, just like all the other pundits out there. But it wouldn’t always be accurate.
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    YOU are there daily at Congress and in the field, KT, I’m not. Polls give info when they’re not slanted (Rasmussen, anyone?) and analysts like Nate Silver (and you) can draw clarifying patterns from them. But talking to as many voters will get the info too. If you randomly met more Brown voters than Coakley, well, then maybe more folks voted for Brown …and they did, coincidence? If you have more thoughts I’d appreciate ‘em. Thanks.

  • newfreedomblog

    Ms Tumulty:
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    While you are perhaps correct so far as the “get down in the dirt and talk to the voters”, it also comes down to what you think you are hearing from the voters when they do speak out.
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    Obama last night said there was “anger and frustration” out in middle America. He does not have a clue as to how much anger, and how much frustration there actually is with the American public.
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    You, Obama and Greg Marx all three do not have a clue as to the opinions or anger voters are feeling right now. It goes beyond Health Care Reform. It goes beyond out of control spending, and facades like “spending freezes” which do not mean anything.
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    People see a government which has grown immensely over the past 11 years now. Starting with George Bush II, actually starting with Bill Clinton, government has become this blob which is nothing short of a huge tax payer dollar sucking machine.
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    “*UPDATE: It’s worth pointing out that Obama’s words last night and this comment from a White House official mark a change in tone from the initial reaction to the deal at 1600 Pennsylvania:”

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    Change in tone? Please, give me a break. There was nothing about last night’s speech which was a change in tone. If anything it was clearly spoken by Obama that he will charge headlong into this and will “fight” for what he believes is the direction this country needs to go in. He made it very clear that He is right, and everyone else is wrong. He said “I” nearly 96 times last night in his speech.
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    He made it sound like he was not part of the problem in Washington, attempting to distance himself from all the corruption and deal making, when in fact he has been right behind Nancy and Harry during this entire health care debate. He has made over 400 speeches on health care alone over the past year.
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    When he took the podium a year ago it was the same stuff, Health Care, Education and Climate Control.
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    No, the message is clear. Obama will continue down this same wrong road. Americans are not “Stupid or Dumb” as Joe Klein happens to think. We know a Charlatan when we see one. Obama is the biggest Charlatan, slick talker this country has every witnessed at the podium delivering a State of the Union speech.
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    What was said during the election by those of us who did not want this man elected has come true. He is full of words and speeches, and has no substance at all. Words and no action. It is clear, Obama does not know what he is doing, and is just jousting with windmills.
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    I hope and pray Republicans will stand firm together, and stop this madman from his destructive path he is trying to lead this country down.

  • deconstructiva

    Rustyblog, by your own definition, KT does have a clue about voter opinions since she went out and talked to them. (It’s BYOD since you acknowledged she went out and did that.) I agree about larger voter anger over many issues.
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    Can any issue unite progressives and teabaggers without falling for odd alliances like Hamsher / Norquist vs. Rahm? Yes – finance reform is one (which is why I’d like to see KT and KP take this up next). Who here supports TARP and Wall St. banks taking our money and then paying it back to themselves in bonuses? Who praises the laissez faire creative thinking of derivatives as a shadow market? Raise your hands. You, rusty? Not me. This issue, along with jobs / lack of, can really unite many if taken seriously.

  • newfreedomblog

    Thank you for reading and considering my comments, deconstructiva.
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    You are correct in that most of the time, I also agree Ms. Tumulty does get it right. However, I do still believe she as well as many others are missing the bigger picture which is overall anger, period.
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    Anger not at any one issue or policy. Simple anger that I have never witnessed before directed at career politicians. There will be changes in November, changes that I am sure President Obama is not counting on or prepared to deal with.

  • spob

    KT, your update kind of lets Obama off the hook. He never mentioned the WH’s role in the “bunch of deals”. And Obama flat out lied to Diane Sawyer.

  • kbanginmotown

    Good post, maurice.
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    re: Truman. One of my favorite quotes of his was from 1952, when his successor took office:

    Poor Ike. He’ll say “Do This!” and “Do That!” and nothing will happen…

    The more things change…

  • textee

    Obama: “I take my share of the blame for not explaining it more clearly to the American people.”

    The poor socialist fool is absolutely clueless:

    1.) The American people didn’t and don’t need Obama to “explain” his socialized medicine scheme.

    2.) The American people didn’t reject Obama’s socialized medicine scheme because Obama failed to “explain it more clearly”. The American people rejected Obama’s socialized medicine scheme because they understood his scheme clearly.

  • newfreedomblog

    Unfortunately maurice, everything Obama says will continue to fall on deaf ears simply because he is now over-exposed.
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    Over 400 speeches, television news one on one explanations of his policies, and various “news conferences” which have been nothing shy of continued campaign speeches from 2008.
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    People are “tuning” the “Messiah” out. His Christ-like qualities have worn thin in the minds of the people of this country.
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    Obama is “just words”. There are no actions which follow. And, the actions he does attempt are pure far left liberal extremism. An attack on our Freedom and Liberties.
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    People have made up their minds, and what this President is offering has been rejected. He is a one-term wonder, no different than the one-hit wonders who offer up songs like “Macarena”!

  • pafro

    Massachusetts got a “sweetheart deal” by getting extra Medicare money:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/21/price-right-payoffs-senators-typical-health-care/
    Scott Brown wasn’t whining that his state was stabbing America in the face like Nebraska and Lousiana did. Course not many people heard about Massachusetts “kickback” because it wouldn’t have fit the media’s storyline about a man and his truck (and five houses).

  • allthingsinaname

    I am angry KT. I am angry that the Democrats have no Balls. I am angry that the GOP pouts in the corner and says no. I am angry that there are people on both sides who support such nonsense. I am mostly angry that nothing gets done!

  • http://www.xanga.com/Amythist_Malaise sheila0405

    The problem is that the American people rejected exactly this type of government takeover when Bill Clinton was President, and the White House seems to have forgotten that. The American people want real reform. It was laughable to hear the President say he would welcome any idea from the GOP, when only a short time ago he told them to be quiet, in his famous “mop up the mess” speech. The President must listen to other ideas now that he has lost his super majority. This notion that he is open minded is just ridiculous. Every major speech in which the President says he wants to hear all points of view is then undercut by “except from those who [the President believes] caused the problem” in the first place. The President’s arrogance is huge, and it was on display in the State of the Union address.

  • stuartzechman

    I’d argue that the fetishizing of “Independents” by the political media establishment, the centrist wing of the Democratic party, and the permanent consultant class also accomplishes this effect.

  • grape_crush

    As one senior White House official said yesterday in advance of the State of the Union address, it was “a galvanizing event…

    …in that it provided a GOP talking point/convenient hook for voters to hang their frustration on; frustration largely generated by the same people providing the talking point.

    It’s not Nelson’s crappy amendment alone that made the HCR legislative process and resulting bill less than optimal, was it?

  • licentiousmaximus

    When encountering these conservatives, one has to wonder if they really are this dumb or whether they intentionally misstate facts. The FACT is the only President in the last 30 years to run a balanced budget and bring down the deficit was BILL CLINTON. Every Republican has blown up the budget, this is easily verifiable and with this much intentional misinformation out there, the MSM should report this at every turn. The facts:

    The deficit was 900 Billion at 33% of GDP prior to Reagan taking office. By 1990 the deficit had almost TRIPLED to 3.2 TRILLION.

    The deficit was 5. 7 TRILLION at 57% of GDP when GW Bush took office in 2001. By the time W left the deficit stood at 9,985.8 TRILLION at 70% of GDP.

    Conservatives, expert liars, are attempting to muddy the waters. The MSM has a duty to double down on facts and actually inform the public in the fact of a wilfull and coordinated attempt to misinform. Then again, that misinformation works to the corporate owned media….so I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  • gingerpye

    freeinpa, if you’d bother to read the post carefully you’d see that Karen is talking about herself when she says “So call me outdated, but I’m going to continue talking to voters whenever I get the chance.” So you can quit with the Obama bashing on this post.

  • 3xfire3

    We don’t agree on much but you are correct on this post.

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