Health Care: Running Out of Options

After looking at all their other options–drafting a smaller health care bill, or passing the most popular parts piecemeal–Democratic leaders in the House and Senate have come down to the realization that they’ve got one play left on health care: Get the House to pass the Senate bill, with the assurance of a set of revisions to be included in a companion measure passed under the budget reconciliation process, to circumvent the Senate’s 60-vote majority requirement.

The key word here is “assurance.” And right now, it is far from clear how nervous House members could get the guarantees they need.

That is likely to be the main issue when House Democrats caucus tonight at 7 p.m. As Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced last week, there is simply no way she can find the votes to pass the Senate bill as is. But her members might, if they knew that there would be some fixes. Among those changes: They don’t want the Senate bill’s “Cadillac tax” on high-priced insurance policies; they want the bill stripped of sweetheart deals like Ben Nelson’s “Cornhusker Kickback;” they would like a national health insurance exchange, not the state ones in the Senate bill.

The only way to get any of those through the Senate is by the use of the reconciliation process. So the thinking now is to come up with what one top aide to the House Democratic leadership describes as “simultaneous tracks” for the Senate bill and the companion reconciliation bill.

But leaders have yet to figure out how that would work. Trust between the two chambers is frayed, and not likely to grow as more and more Senate Democrats come out against using reconciliation to get a health bill to President Obama’s desk. Already, we are seeing the defections of moderates such as Nelson, Indiana’s Evan Bayh, and Arkansas’ Blanche Lincoln. Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad is no sure thing; nor is independent Joe Lieberman. Meanwhile, Republicans are certain to drag out the bill as long as they can.

And then there is the larger question of what the political consequences might be of a procedural win in the wake of last week’s Massachusetts elections. Republican Senator-elect Scott Brown told me the morning after the election: “I think they’ll pay for it dearly in 2010. I think people will be outraged, regardless of party, if they let that happen.”

What Democratic leaders argue, however, is that the consequence of not passing a bill would be even worse. It would leave their party crippled and limping into the 2010 election with nothing to show for a year’s worth of effort on the issue. Further, passing a bill would allow them to quit talking about the ugly process of dealmaking, and remind voters of the actual features of the bill–many of which remain popular.

So what’s the betting at this point? It’s probably overstating the case to say that Democratic leaders are optimistic. But I’m still sensing that the determination to do something is there.

UPDATE: Health care experts weigh in:

We have come further than we have ever come before. While the House and Senate bills differ on specific points, they are built on the same framework and common elements–eliminating health status underwriting and insurance abuses, creating functioning insurance markets, offering affordability credits to those who cannot afford health insurance, requiring that all Americans act responsibly and purchase health insurance if they are able to do so, expanding Medicaid to cover all poor Americans, reforming Medicare payment to encourage quality and control costs, strengthening the primary care workforce, and encouraging prevention and wellness.

Key differences between the bills, such as the scope of the tax on high-cost plans and the allocation of premium subsidies, should be negotiated through the reconciliation process. Key elements of a reconciliation compromise enjoy broad support in both houses. Other discrepancies between the House and Senate bills can be addressed through other means.

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  • http://fourlegsrgood.wordpress.com fourlegsgood

    They need to just go ahead and pass the bill. House members need to put everything else aside and do the right thing. This bill covers quite a few of the uninsured – to abandon those people when they’re on the 1 yard line would be indefensible.

    Also, dems should be more worried about what payment their own side will exact for not passing this and forget about the teabagger contingent.

  • http://fourlegsrgood.wordpress.com fourlegsgood

    Adding… as much as I dislike the senate bill, I’ll take that with NO reconciliation or fixes over no bill at all.

  • Matt

    The only option the White House appears willing to take on right now is passing bipartisan provisions in chunks. It;s obvious they have pivoted away from health care as the president’s signature issue.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • http://www.ghostnote.com Cookie Puss

    “… the determination to do something is there.”

    That’s good. Because El Presidente seems chuffed to stay hands off. It’s worked really well so far.

  • Ivy_B

    moderates such as Nelson, Indiana’s Evan Bayh, and Arkansas’ Blanche Lincoln.

    If this is what we have come down to as moderate Democrats, there is no hope for the party.

  • stuartzechman

    From Chris Bowers’ place ( link to HuffPo source ):
    .
    Ryan Grim is reporting that some Senate Democrats will vote in favor of Bernanke when 60 votes are required, and then against him when 51 votes are required. Because your head hadn’t exploded enough over the last week:

    Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) told reporters on Monday afternoon after a meeting with Bernanke that some opponents of the chairman had pledged to support him on the first vote, but not on the second.
    .
    I know that there are some Democrats who have stated publicly that they are not going to vote ultimately for his nomination as chairman of the Fed. Many, not all, but many of these Senate Democrats have said that they won’t stop us on procedural votes. So we may have their support on cloture but not on final passage,” he said.
    .
    HuffPost asked Durbin why they’d make that commitment for Bernanke but not for health care.

    I don’t know. That’s a good question. They come up with different standards in terms of how they do things,” Durbin replied.

  • apr2563

    Agreed. Unfortunately, there is only one true liberal in the Senate, Independent Bernie Sanders. Nelson, Bayh (his father must cringe) and Lincoln are by every definition Conservative. They are also bring home the bacon or else.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    I’m quite curious about what’s going to happen with Nelson once his own party screws him out of a deal. Sure, it’s a deal they never should’ve made and incredibly reprehensible, but it’d be interesting to see if he votes for any legislation this year or if he’d even stick with the Dems.

  • shakrai

    fourlegs:
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    Your handle reminds of another quote from Animal Farm that comes to mind when one considers all of the special deals in this legislation: All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

  • square1

    Here’s what I suggest: Let the crappy Senate bill fail. Let Obama fail. Run a real Democrat in 2012. Replace Harry Reid. Pass meaningful HCR.

  • newfreedomblog

    “They don’t want the Senate bill’s “Cadillac tax” on high-priced insurance policies; they want the bill stripped of sweetheart deals like Ben Nelson’s “Cornhusker Kickback;” they would like a national health insurance exchange, not the state ones in the Senate bill.”

    .
    They also do not want to lose their Senate or House seat come 2010, for those up for re-election.
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    The health care reform bill as currently proposed is dead. D-E-A-D.
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    Oh, are you holding Joe Kleins hand after he was beat down mercilessly by Glenn Beck? Or, did TIME finally fire the hack for what he is?

  • shakrai

    I don’t think you are going to have to worry too much about Harry Reid in 2012……

  • apr2563

    The dem rep Parker Griffith who switched to the Republican party was not welcomed with open arms outside of the House. The Republicans are in the midst of demanding “purity tests”. If someone ever voted for a Democratic legislative measure, it is likely they are doomed.
    Unfortunately, like Limberman, Nelson will face no repercussions. The Dems have lost the fine art of ruthlessly making their caucus speak as one. Oh for the days when LBJ was Senate Majority Leader.

  • stuartzechman

    KT:

    we are seeing the defections of moderates such as Nelson, Indiana’s Evan Bayh, and Arkansas’ Blanche Lincoln.

    They’re not “moderates”, KT, they’re Third Way centrists.
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    They’re not “moderate conservatives”. They’re not “moderate liberals”. They’re their own thing.
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    They’re the New Democrats:

    The New Democrat Coalition was founded in 1997 by Representatives Cal Dooley (California), Jim Moran (Virginia) and Timothy J. Roemer (Indiana) as a congressional affiliate of the avowedly centrist Democratic Leadership Council, whose members, including former President Bill Clinton, call themselves “New Democrats.”

    Go ahead, look them up. Google “Senate New Democrat Coalition”, and see what comes up.
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    Here’s the list in case you don’t have time for that exercise:

    * Blanche Lincoln (AR, founder)
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    * Dianne Feinstein (CA, by 2001)
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    * Thomas R. Carper (DE, by 2001; co-chair from 2003)
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    * Joe Lieberman (CT, founder)
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    * Bill Nelson (FL, by 2001)
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    * Evan Bayh (IN, founder)
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    * Mary Landrieu (LA, founder, co-chair from 2003)
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    * John Kerry (MA, from 2000[7])
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    * Debbie Stabenow (MI, by 2001)
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    * Kent Conrad (ND, from 2000)
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    * Ben Nelson (NE, by 2001)
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    * Tim Johnson (SD, from 2000)
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    * Maria Cantwell (WA, by 2001)
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    * Herb Kohl (WI, from 2000)

    I know that the New Democrats call themselves “moderate”, but that’s missing something, isn’t it?
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    When a politician describes themselves as a “moderate”, isn’t the right question to ask then “moderate what?”
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    When you call these people “moderates”, KT, you’re letting them get away with a rhetorical trick. Why not just call them “pragmatists”, too, while you’re at it, it’s what they call themselves, isn’t it? How about “realists”? I’m sure they’d agree that’s an accurate description.
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    The bottom line is that liberals can tell you that they’re not moderate liberals, and conservatives would be highly (and accurately) offended if you were to say they were moderate conservatives!
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    (Correct me if I’m wrong, my rightist friends: is Bill Clinton a “moderate conservative” or not?)
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    They’re not moderate anything, they’re proponents of the Third Way political philosophy –avowed centrists. They believe so thoroughly in that political philosophy that they do very, very predictable things, like holding up health care for a year, just so that they can futilely “compromise” with Republicans. That’s not “moderate”, that’s pretty darn extreme, isn’t it, KT?
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    Please, do us all a favor, and label these ideologues what they are: New Democrats or centrists or Third Way proponents, or what have you –something that’s accurately descriptive of what they believe in that differentiates them from liberals and conservatives –because they are quite, quite different.
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    If you’re going to use the word “moderate”, then please use it as an adjective that accurately describes a noun.
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    Is that too much to ask, KT? In the interests of fairness and accuracy, can you please substituted centrist for “moderate” when describing founding members of the DLC?

  • stuartzechman

    I won’t.

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  • indylinda

    Who cares of Bayh, Landrieu, Lincoln, etc., defect? The whole point of using reconciliation is that they need only 50 votes + Biden to break the tie. So they can lose 9 votes and still pass it.
    And frankly, who cares what Scott Brown thinks about the Democratic strategy to pass healthcare? Do you think he is likely to be giving his honest opinion about what would be best for their electoral prospects come 2010? If the GOP really thought passing a bill would be bad for Democrats at the polls, they’d be delighted to let them do it.

  • jcapan

    Firstly, I’d say my head exploded a long time ago. But seriously, if you stand for nothing (i.e. the dem party as currently led), it’s a very dangerous game. From the media to the opposition to the voters, this frees up any number of projections about what/who you’re fighting for. I mean, it’s bad enough who the corporatist dems are fighting for, but they can’t even come up with a coherent batch of snake oil to veil their predatory b-s (a la the GOP).

  • kristiia

    Would they, please, just do it and do it soon. The quicker they get it done, the quicker they can move on to everything else.

    We only need 50 for Reconcilliation.

    Get moving.

  • rustyreturns

    Karen:
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    Just call them what they all are, including stuart zechman.
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    Liberal Loons!
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    “Centrist” one day, then “New Democrats” another day. Pretty soon they will want to call themselves “New Tea Baggers”.
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    Give me a break. They are what they are, liberals. Period. Just as there are varying kinds of Conservatives, the liberal left also has their Kaleidoscope of varying opinions and stand on issues. But they are still Conservatives.
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    Face up to it stuart, despite your crusade to rename everyone and everybody, you are what you say you are, a LIBERAL. Nuts, but still a liberal.

  • stuartzechman

    Rustydog:
    .
    Dude, I’m a liberal –OF COURSE I’m a liberal– that’s not the issue.
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    But KT doesn’t say what “moderate” means, so it could be “moderate liberal” or “moderate conservative”.
    .
    I’ll ask you again: is Bill Clinton a “moderate Conservative”?
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    I think the answer is “No”.
    ,
    So that must mean that the New Democrats are “moderate liberals”, right?
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    Wrong.
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    I’ll bet Ben Nelson doesn’t want the word “liberal” anywhere near his name. Nor Evan Bayh.
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    Right at the moment, I’ll bet Blanche Lincoln would sue somebody who called her a liberal.
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    So…us liberals don’t think that they’re liberals, they don’t even want to be in the same room as the word “liberal”, you sure as hell would scream and yell if they were called “conservative”…so that means they’re “moderate” what, exactly?
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    Fortunately, we don’t have to even ask that question, since the information is all there. The Democratic Leadership Council, and their little sub-chapter the New Democrat Coalition are Third Way centrists. Don’t take my word for it, look it up.
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    Google “Democratic Leadership Council”, and see what you find.
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    You can call them “liberals” all day long, Rustydog, and KT can call them “moderates”, and they can call themselves “pro-business progressives” or whatever marketing slogan they can think of this week, but they are what they are.
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    Given how disastrously they’re running the country into the ground, and how excluded the left is from any governance at all, KT should fairly and accurately call them centrists or New Democrats.

  • stuartzechman

    I should add that’s also because we actual liberals don’t want to be associated with the corrupt, centrist likes of Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu.
    .
    This isn’t the left’s debacle of governance, it’s the center’s.

  • gysgt213

    I have been posting a lot because my head exploded a while back. I am going to go on burbon and I am thinking about marrying this cute Ostrich I saw at the zoo.

  • apr2563

    Other examples of DLC dems: Lanny Davis, Mark Penn, Harold Ford.
    As a liberal, those names make me want to barf.

  • ezistreet

    I think the Democrats have done all they can. Little by little, many people will realize that they don’t have adequate health insurance, or their kids don’t, sister, brother, etc. Along with this understanding will come the realization that the reason for this lack is the Republican Party.

  • shakrai

    That’s a political cop out. The Democrats had the votes to pass this thing all along. They couldn’t sell it to the moderates in their own party. Some of them no doubt had genuine objections to the bill. Others saw an opportunity to bring home the bacon.

  • http://shorthorse.wordpress.com shorthorse

    Passing this bill based on assurances is a bit (ok a lot) like taking poison with the assurance that the slow fat kid will go get the antidote.

  • stuartzechman

    The New Democrat wing of the Democratic party are responsible for this failure.
    .
    If they had voted with liberal Democrats, instead of threatening to vote with Republicans so that the legislation became the corrupt piece of centrist tinsel that it is, this would have been done six months ago, and the advantages of voting Democratic wouldn’t have had to wait until 2014 to be experienced by the electorate.
    .
    Centrist Democrats did this to the country, not “Democrats”.
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    If the leadership of the Party was liberal, and they had enforced discipline on their caucus, then the American people might have had health care reform that served their –all Americans, not just the uninsured– interests passed.

  • martingifford

    Can Dems add a public option during reconciliation?

    If they don’t, then the Reps can say, “The Dems are forcing you to pay thousands of dollars of your hard earned money to the Health Insurance industry.”

    That would be a devastating attack.

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  • ezistreet

    14.2
    I disagree, Shakrai, the Republican Party clearly made the decision to do nothing but block any healthcare bill in an attempt to undermine the Demos and especially Obama. Actions have consequences, and, someday, I hope they will face these consequences.

  • stuartzechman

    Umm…they have 41 seats.
    .
    That means that at least 9 Democrats have to vote with them.
    .
    That’s the entire Senate New Democrat Coalition.
    .
    Democrats did this, not Republicans.

  • newfreedomblog

    Did you want Republicans to accept the now known policy of the Democrat Party to pad the bottom line of the insurance and drug companies, ezistreet?
    .
    Apparently you fault Republicans for not going along with the massive deals that the Senators from Louisana and Nebraska received as a bribe for their vote is just “business as usual”.
    .
    Do you believe that your idea of “Republican Obstructionism” is that they only want Obama to fail? That this is a great bill, and one that all Americans are too stupid to understand?
    .
    Do you realize that over 61% of Americans are simply against this bill? 72% believe it is too costly, and right now we are so in debt we cannot afford yet another entitlement program?

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Unless there are huge bribes involved I don’t see how the House could trust the moderate Democratic Senators to fix the bill. Can they hold the votes at exactly the same time and then cancel before the vote is final, if the Senate reneges on their guarantee?

  • spob

    Did anyone else catch that egregious lie by Obama in his Diane Sawyer interview? He said that he wasn’t involved in a bunch of deals–oh really, Barack? Then why were all those industry and union reps coming to the WH?
    .
    by the way, i’m sure Obama’s buddies in the Senate were thrilled with him tossing them under the bus.
    .
    No wonder Fox is the most trusted name in news. Yeah, their news shows are brutally tabloidish (think New York Post on TV), but I doubt a Fox News reporter would have let Obama get away with that whopper.
    .
    KT, has Gibbs gotten a question about that. Obama’s attempt to distance himself from the deals is simply dishonest.

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  • http://teacherreaderwriter.wordpress.com/ Shakespeare in GA

    Do you realize that over 61% of Americans are simply against this bill?
    .
    Due to PR and spin and the Democrats’ inability to sell their own message, yes. But when asked about provisions in the bill, Americans are far more positive about the bill. See Nate Silver: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/01/health-care-polls-opinion-gap-or.html
    .
    72% believe it is too costly, and right now we are so in debt we cannot afford yet another entitlement program?
    .
    Put quotes around “believe it is too costly.” More fear and spin. CBO finds it deficit neutral.

  • shakrai

    Keep telling yourself that it’s all the GOP’s fault if that you makes you feel better.
    .
    It was the GOP’s fault that a House Democrat introduced a tough anti-abortion measure that alienated the pro-choice base and consumed political capital that could have been spent elsewhere.
    .
    It was the GOP’s fault that President Obama accused the Cambridge police of “acting stupidly”, thus burning up several news cycles and diverting his attention to cleaning up that mess instead of working on health care.
    .
    It was the GOP’s fault that Senator Lieberman used this as an opportunity to settle scores with the progressive wing of the party.
    .
    BTW, I do believe that actions have consequences. That’s why the Democrats are going to get a well deserved beating this year. You can’t run an entire campaign on transparency and a “new kind of politics” and then broker backroom deals with big industry and powerful politicians without expecting to get called on it.
    .
    Cheer up though. The last time we had divided Government it produced economic growth and budget surpluses. The Republicans and Democrats have both proven that they can’t be trusted with all the levers of power.

  • shakrai

    19.3: Shakespeare, so basically you think that the American people are too stupid to make an informed decision about the merits of this legislation and got fooled by the evil Republican spin machine?

  • ezistreet

    The United States people have Social Security because of Democrats; Medicare because of Democrats; no healthcare because of Republicans.

  • stuartzechman

    …and New Democrats.

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    And then there is the larger question of what the political consequences might be of a procedural win in the wake of last week’s Massachusetts elections. Republican Senator-elect Scott Brown told me the morning after the election: “I think they’ll pay for it dearly in 2010. I think people will be outraged, regardless of party, if they let that happen.”

    and, other than beating a lousy candidate/quasi-incumbent–she had all the disadvantages and none of the advantages– in the worst economy since the Great Depression, could you direct me to some other great political acheivemnt or evidence of insight from Mr Brown?

  • abdullah69

    Until defence spending is put on the table and debated at the same volume as health care, then the US is simply not serious about reforming anything.

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    adding: Republicans and their allies have been blocking passage based on a procedural trick for six months. Where’s the evidence that people are outraged by Senate arcana? Poll after poll, article after article show that people who oppose the bill don’t know what’s in it, and favor what is in it when asked about it (tax breaks for business, subsidies, end of recission).

    PTDB

  • jgsr

    The discussion/arguement as to what the correct identifying labels should be for the two opposing “groups” will never end,could never end. My concern is about the “cake” not the bakers.
    I am an Independent and the “bakers” political party are a non-issue to me.
    To me, and for the many like me, it’s a choice between ever-bigger government and Socialism and less government and every American’s right to make their own decisions about their lives. If individuals make bad choices, they will recover and learn, if the government makes bad decisions for all citizens, ALL citizens will neither forgive nor forget.
    I have to idea how intelligent people can think that some government groups in DC are more able to make life’s correct decisions than they personally are able to make for themselves.
    If the US were some small Country with 90% illiteracy, then the smartest. most capable people might very well be in the government…but not here, not America.
    I believe America to have many tens of millions of intelligent citizens more than capable of personally planning and living their lives successfully with no need for a nanny chaperon…..some government agency to “think for them”.

  • http://teacherreaderwriter.wordpress.com/ Shakespeare in GA

    I do not see this as all the GOP’s fault, although I certainly blame them for blatantly putting politics ahead of governing. Go back and read my post, especially the part about the Democrats’ inability to sell a message.
    .
    And thanks, Joe Klein, for creating a meme that can be used against anyone who points out the fact that we are all subject to manipulation. Turn on a television or read a magazine. Advertisements use fear and flattery to get us to buy products. Politicians spin. And we tend to buy this spin because it’s easier than sitting down and wading through several stories about, say, health care reform, or whether or not Colgate is better than Crest.
    .
    Simply look at the chart I linked to on Nate Silver’s blog: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/01/health-care-polls-opinion-gap-or.html. Add to that the fact that some people who oppose the bill do so because they don’t think it goes far enough, not because they think the whole idea is terrible.

  • rustyreturns

    Your name says it all ezstreet. That is exactly how liberals in general feel about what the government should do for you.
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    Pay for everything. Tax the workers of this country, let big business get off scott free, and then give it to the supposed poor.
    .
    Go out, get a job and work for it once in your life. You will be glad in the long run you did, it is a great self esteem booster.

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  • afguy

    Passing this bill based on assurances is a bit (ok a lot) like taking poison with the assurance that the slow fat kid will go get the antidote.
    .
    More like counting on your grandparent with Alzheimer’s to do it. You hope they remember what they were sent to do 5 minutes later and don’t end up at the neighbor’s watching game shows.
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    At least, with the fat kid, you are reasonably certain he’s actually remembering and trying to do it.

  • afguy

    I believe America to have many tens of millions of intelligent citizens more than capable of personally planning and living their lives successfully with no need for a nanny chaperon…..some government agency to “think for them”.
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    Makes sense to me…
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    I don’t need anyone to check those bridges I cross over every day to see if they are safe or need repair. I’ll check them myself on the way home and, if repair is needed, I’m sure the neighbors will pitch in and fix it next weekend.
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    I don’t need no stinkin’ CDC telling me about epidemics out on the west coast. They’re out there – I’m here. I can tell when someone’s sick. I’l just be very careful who I shake hands with and I’ll be OK. What could they possibly know that I don’t?
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    Ice storm took down several thousand poles and power service? Let me get my tool box and axe and I’ll get right on it. No need for gov’t involvement here.
    .
    A little thought before writing might be in order.

  • cigarcamel

    Shakrai – “Cheer up though. The last time we had divided Government it produced economic growth and budget surpluses. The Republicans and Democrats have both proven that they can’t be trusted with all the levers of power.”
    That’s the most intelligent thing said here all week.

  • obxkdh

    What’s the rush? The only thing it accelerates is the 5 years of taxes before ‘health care’ actually gets implemented. That is assuming it survives the barrage of lawsuits which will get filed as soon as it is approved.

  • obxkdh

    Not even close to reality. The Dems couldn’t pass the bill within their own party without private meetings, negotiations and blatant bribes to states and individuals.

  • obxkdh

    The evidence is that less than 38% actually approve of this legislation. Which polls are you referring to? Something CNN or Time came up with? I’m sure you’ve read the 2000 pages and agree with the tax increases and other horse crap included right?

  • shakrai

    19.6: You keep mentioning Nate Sliver but you fail to mention the fact that his data reveals that an overwhelming majority of Americans oppose the idea of an individual mandate.

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  • jgsr

    ….A little thought before writing might be in order.

    afguy…..

    checking bridges is the domain of the State Highway department………not the federal Govt…..there is not a Federal Agency responsible for this.

    CDC IS the Federal Govt and you should spend a liitle times to read from dozens of sources how well the Fed. Govt agency has bungled that. The Same Fed Govt. that can not figure out how to give 10% of Americans a single, simple flu shot is going to manage every citizens’ entire health needs?

    Power lines and pole repair?…that is the responsibility of individual cities/counties or State highway departments…not the entire Country…there is not a Federal agency

    afguy…are you old enough to know where babies come from…and ..the differentiations between the private and public sectors….and…..the division of responsibilities between State Govt. and the Federal Govt.?

    devote a little adult thought..if possible…to determine where responsibilities and jurisdictions lie before assigning blame or awarding praise for actions taken or obligations neglected.

    it’s an extremely useful adult skill to understand the areas of responsibility in our structure of: individuals, city, country, State, and Federal Govt.

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  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @ obxkdh–here you go
    The provisions that 60 percent or more said would make them more likely to support the bill included:
    – Prohibiting insurance companies from denying coverage or charging higher premiums to those with a medical history or pre-existing conditions.
    – Providing tax credits to small businesses that want to offer coverage to employees.
    – Expanding Medicaid to cover everyone with incomes under $29,000 a year for a family of four.
    – Allowing children to stay on their parents’ insurance plans through age 25.
    – Closing the Medicare “doughnut hole” or “coverage gap” so seniors would no longer have a period where they are responsible for paying the full cost of their medicines.
    – Creating a health insurance exchange or marketplace where small businesses and individuals without employer-provided coverage can shop for insurance and compare prices and benefits.
    – Ensuring that most people who get health insurance through their jobs will keep the plans they have now.
    On the issue of covering more of the uninsured — providing coverage to 31 million people who don’t have it now — 56 percent said that would make it more likely that they would support the proposals.

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/01/22/the-health-care-reform-provisions-americans-like-and-dont-li/

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