Anatomy of Anger

I was struck by this passage in the Washington Post story about its poll of Massachusetts voters, because it so closely tracks what I was seeing up there anecdotally:

Health care topped jobs and the economy as the most important issue driving Massachusetts voters, but among voters for Brown, it was closely followed by the economy and jobs, and “the way Washington is working.”

Overall, 43 percent of Massachusetts voters say they support the health-care proposals advanced by Obama and congressional Democrats; 48 percent oppose them. Among Brown’s supporters, eight in 10 said they were opposed to the measures, 66 percent of them strongly so.

Sizable majorities of voters for Brown see the Democrats’ plan, if passed, as making things worse for their families, the country and Massachusetts. Few Coakley voters see these negatives, and most of those backing her see clear benefits for the country if health-care reform becomes law. Less than half of Coakley’s supporters say they or the state would be better off as a result.

Among Brown’s supporters who say the health-care reform effort in Washington played an important role in their vote, the most frequently cited reasons were concerns about the process, including closed-door dealing and a lack of bipartisanship. Three in 10 highlighted these political maneuverings as the motivating factor; 22 percent expressed general opposition to reform or the current bill.

The deal now known as the “Cornhusker Kickback” may have been one of the biggest blunders in modern political history. Normally, you’d be surprised if people in Massachusetts even know who the Senator from Nebraska is. But the number of people I talked to who brought up Ben Nelson’s name, unprompted, was striking. I’m also told, by some who were doing phonebanking, that they got an earful about it over and over.

Voters I talked to also brought up the deal with labor. How come, they wanted to know, that everyone has to pay this “Cadillac Tax” on high-cost insurance plans except for the unions, who get a five-year exemption? People are so disgusted by the process, I think, that they have ceased to believe that there is anything in this bill for them.

In my day-after-the-election interview with Scott Brown, he put his finger on it as well:

As you listen to people talk about the health care bill, what is your sense of what they object to? Is it what is in the bill, or the process of putting it together?

Let me ask you a question. What’s in the bill?

Well, I’ve been covering it for a year, so I kind of know.

What’s in the bill now? What’s the final version of the bill? No one really knows what’s in the bill because every time we turn around, there is a new backroom deal with a carve-out. I’ve read the bills too.

Another tidbit that I picked up in my reporting was that the first internal GOP poll that showed Brown closing what had been a 30-point gap with Martha Coakley came in on December 22. What was dominating the political headlines then? Harry Reid’s struggle to cobble together 60 votes on health care.

They call the legislative process sausagemaking for a reason. Has the writing of the health care bill been any uglier than usual? Probably not. But two things are different: The mood of the electorate, and the amount of information that is now available to them. In the past, these deals were buried deep in the fine print. People didn’t find out about them until years after the fact.

That has changed, thanks in part to the kind of media coverage we have and thanks in part to the way people get their information. There is simply a lot more of it out there than there used to be. And when people get their deals, they now have a tendency to go out and brag about them, to convince their patrons and constituencies that they are getting theirs.

So one of the lessons that politicians should take from the Massachusetts election is this: The back room now has windows.

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  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    The anger is a disgust that people see a lot coming out of washington, but they don’t think much of it is for them. they think the bill has become a series of special deals. they can cite the deals, but no one seemed to be under the impression that there was anything in there that would help them. That, I think, was the reason that they turned the Massachusetts Senate race into a message to Washington.

  • kevpvp

    Interesting post, KT. I’d be interested in some of the quotes/comments from your conversations with MA voters. Any chance you can do a post similar to your Brown interview but with what the actual voters had to say?

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    The disgust is also testament to Republicans tactics of obstruction and bad faith bargaining. By stretching the process out by so long, the deal making was exposed.
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    This is not to defend those deals. I think Brown is right, that the thing that people like you, KT, and Ezra called political reality really consisted of cutting deals with pharma and the insurance companies, deals that were sorta held to.
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    The control these unelected, monied interests have is infuriating. Durbin’s remarks re the finance industry’s ownership of the legislature is another illustration. The current health care industry provides the US with the worst, most expensive health care in the OECD. And the response of our elected officials is to throw taxpayer dollars at them. That is, at least, irksome.

  • deconstructiva

    Thanks KT, good morning, and welcome back. I hope you’re finally getting some rest after the election. Did you see voter anger focused mostly on HCR or is it broader? Was Coakley’s lazy campaign a major sticky pt. with voters or was HCR dominant?
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    While I strongly disagree with many teabaggers – and their AFP / corporate backing of HCR protests (but I don’t digress) – I empathize with a larger frustration over Congress’ deal failures and corporate “ownership”. Especially includes the Senate (Baucus + former staff / lobbyists, etc.). Point of order at next real filibuster to kill it, anyone?

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    I don’t have transcripts as such, because I was mostly catching people on the fly, but here’s a story I wrote Monday night:
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100119/us_time/08599195463500

  • deconstructiva

    KT, speaking of another issue w/ voter outrage, will you take up finance reform as next Big Story (perhaps team up with Barbara Kiviat and Steve Gandel’s team)? This could be a rare issue that unites progressives and teabaggers – exposing / punishing Wall Street bank crimes and then working to prevent future ones. Also, in the tea-leaf-reading dept., what’s the latest vote-count for Bernanke’s re-confirmation? Thanks for your great insights, as always.

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    If people brought up Ben Nelson and his blackmail unprompted, did anyone bring up the grotesque abuse of the filibuster that made it possible?
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    If not do you think it could be related to the fact that the filibuster– which Vice Principal Broder and his (absurdly) large number of followers in the Commentariat thought was a national crisis in 2005, when it was used much less– has simply been accepted as an integral part of our legislative process since 2006? Whatever could cause such a sharp and sudden difference in perspective in the happy little Village of Broderville?

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    Jim: Frequent Swampland readers know that I have my own suggestion as to how they should deal with filibusters. Just do it.
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    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/11/13/latest-installment-of-make-em-filibuster/

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    Now that I think about it, I guess that makes me a Foolish Literalist, too.

  • Ike Jakson

    Maybe it is time to listen to the voters; that is supposed to be the reason for politics, or what?

  • Paul-no not that one

    jay’s exactly right. ” political reality ”
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    And throughout the last many months we were told how important it was that (Pharma, AMA, Insurance Industry) “signed off” on HCR.
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    I asked many times in these threads “or what?”. Never got a response.
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    This week’s SCOTUS ruling just furthered businesses power over policy, but as we have seen it is hardly their first step.

  • slaneyblack

    So Karen: when is the media going to wake up to the fact that Senate “centrists” are low-class hacks?
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    That they are not venerable tribunes of national interest? That voters hate their policies far, far more than the “extreme left” in the House?
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    Is any of this starting to sink in?
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    Voters weren’t thrilled about the “liberal” house bill.
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    They *hate* the “moderate” senate bill.
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    Nelson and Lieberman and Bayh and Landrieu and Snowe and Collins. Healthcare is staggeringly unpopular because of them.
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    Will you guys stop treating them like world-class geniuses now?

  • destor23

    Karen, I wonder if this analysis can’t be taken a step farther. The idea that the health bill is largely a bunch of cobbled together agreements with interest groups (labor, lobbyists, wayward senators) implies that most people see this bill as something that will cost them money while providing benefits to everyone else.

    If this bill had delivered better care at lower cost, it’d probably be popular. But you have to take the elites out of the process!

  • deconstructiva

    …arrgh, these aren’t rhetorical questions. I guess being part of the regular commenter inner circle – which I’m not – has its privileges.

  • newfreedomblog

    “That has changed, thanks in part to the kind of media coverage we have and thanks in part to the way people get their information. There is simply a lot more of it out there than there used to be. And when people get their deals, they now have a tendency to go out and brag about them, to convince their patrons and constituencies that they are getting theirs.”

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    Let’s see, most of the deals were done in backrooms, excluding full representation and discussion. Republicans for the most part have been vilified for being “obstructionists”, when in fact as the various “deals” trickled out of the sausage making factories (behind closed doors), the facts were exposed.
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    Yes, the “news” is gathered in many more places than in previous years or decades. Thanks to the internet and to TV Cable News programs, people can get up to the minute information about what kind of corruption is actually going on in Washington at any given time.
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    Yes print and internet sources such as TIME.com have made information available, but with a very biased, liberal twist. I believe that the truth and facts were told by more conservative venues. When the “facts were laid out for everyone to ponder, thankfully the folks in Massachusetts relied on the more unbiased sources to make their decisions. Had it been the other way around, Scott Brown would still be a State Senator, not a US Senator from Massachusetts.

  • stuartzechman

    It isn’t a liberal bias. It’s a precedent bias, a political savviness bias, an establishment bias, an official source bias, a Beltway culture bias and a professional bias.
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    When there is an “average” political bias to the press corps, it’s centrism, because it appeals to reporters tendency to take refuge in what Prof. Jay Rosen calls “Regression to a Phony Mean”. The prevalence of He Said-She Said is an indicator of that centrist bias. The blanket credibility given institutions, government officials and the Beltway technocracy is another indicator of centrist bias.
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    The press corps isn’t biased at all toward liberalism, it’s biased in favor of its own interests. The press corps is biased in favor of itself. That bias tends to favor the political philosophy of the Washington elite, which is centrism.
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    They don’t trust movements, they have their faith Gray Ladies. They didn’t trust the popular right to be credible politically or otherwise for years and years until you proved it to them (by making your own movement conservative media), and they still don’t trust the popular left to be anything more than Dirty F*cking Hippies.
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    Just because they sneer at you doesn’t mean they’re liberal. The same thing holds true for liberals: just because they loathe the left doesn’t mean they’re rightists. They’re not.
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    You need to distinguish between the political tactic of calling the political media “liberal” to achieve the goal of the press scampering in the other direction to advertise their “objectivity”, and the reality that the press corps’s bias isn’t liberal or conservative, it’s “press corps.”

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    “What’s in the bill now? What’s the final version of the bill? No one really knows what’s in the bill because” the savages of the right have been braying about “death panels,” and the media is terrible at reporting the news, relating the lies instead of reporting the facts.

  • stuartzechman

    Glad to see your commentary, Jay.

  • apr2563

    If you can bear it, listen to Chris Matthews on any given day. This supposedly liberal talk show host is a creature displaying signs of tourettes syndrome and schizophrenia. The other day, when talking (yelling) about HCR he was blaming the liberal netroots. They are his usual boogeyman. After all they don’t respect the opinion of the omnipotent Matthews and the other villagers like Klein, Broder, etc.
    new the press isn’t liberal. They just want a story about conflict they can flak: Death panels, tea partiers, Democrats doomed for reelection. Real critical analysis rarely exists.
    Who do most of them read and listen to? Each other. Watch any Sunday news show. I don’t anymore because they are so predictable.
    When I watch Jon Stewart, I know by his questions that he has read the book from the author he is interviewing. They are often books I might not heard of that have diverse and interesting points of view. Who questioned the hackery displayed in “Game Change? Stephen Colbert. The book that the traditional press has given serious discussion to is “Game Change”. Seriously….

  • Paul-no not that one

    “When I watch Jon Stewart, I know by his questions that he has read the book from the author he is interviewing. They are often books I might not heard of that have diverse and interesting points of view”
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    I still get a chuckle that Stewart reads all the books of the authors he interviews and has seen almost none of the movies of the *stars* he has on.
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    The exact opposite of probably 99% of other interviewers.

  • http://zenshadow.wordpress.com zenshadow

    The Republicans are creaming all over themselves this week! They not only got “Their hot fox babe” Sarah Palin (palininatowel indeed), but “their guy” Scott Brown singlehandedly destroyed any hope for Health Care Reform in this decade. Hallelujah! Pass the Beck Flavored Kool-aid!

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Jim: Frequent Swampland readers know that I have my own suggestion as to how they should deal with filibusters. Just do it.

    I am a frequent reader, and I am aware of, agree with, and appreciate your stance on the filibuster–though as I understand it current Senate rules place the onus on the majority; the filibustering party only needs one member present to object to the call for a vote? Kind of the opposite of the Mr Smith image most people have of the filibuster, I think.
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    And getting back to my question, those very well-informed voters who now about the Nelson’s blackmail, and have some inkling of the Cadillac tax exemption, do not mention the abuse of the filibuster when expressing their frustration with Washington’s “business as usual”, which isn’t so usual, or at least hasn’t been usual for very long.

  • dannyd23

    I dont particularly agree with the backroom deals made to get the 60 votes needed for HCR, but if even just a handful of Republicans came to the bargining table in good faith at the the beginning the Dem’s wouldnt have had to rely on making deals to get the votes they need.

    I think we should VOTE OUT ALL OF CONGRESS! We as a country waste so much time trying to get anything done that isnt a complete emergency. we’re like the kid who waits till the night before to start the big science project thats due in the morning. big things seem to only happen when our hand is forced.

    The only reason I side with the Dem’s is because they appear to at least be trying to get SOMETHING done. the Repub’s only seem to want to obstruct and keep the status quoe, which consequently, DOSNT SEEM TO BE WORKING.

    So pretty please, for Valentines day, can all of congress please have a group hug, smoke a fatty, and actually solve a problem for a change?

  • Ivy_B

    I’m endlessly irritated that the media refer over and over to the need for 60 votes as though it is in the Constitution or handed down by Moses rather than a relatively recent rule decided by the Senate itself. The media has simply reinforced the Republicans bad behavior in the public mind.

  • http://zenshadow.wordpress.com zenshadow

    Oh, and let’s add to that “conservative winning streak” the cold wave that washed ashore from the conservative Supreme Court. It was almost as though a Dinosaur reared itself from the slime of the Bush Tar(p) Pit and ate a large share of the American Tourista! The 5-4 “decision” to allow corps to have UNBRIDLED Donation Capabilities smacks of the mindset that allowed Banks UNLIMITED access to Market Instruments (without the Risk of Failure due to their Dinosaurian size). The “John Roger’s Timebomb” that Bush II planted has come to fruition. Dino FTW.

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  • bmccool

    “… and the amount of information that is now available to them.” Let’s not forget the obscene amount of misinformation, and likely to a far greater degree, the amount of disinformation available to people. No doubt there was deal-making going on, but the longer this thing went on, the greater a target it became. The Democratic senators lacked the courage of their convictions. They should have proposed things such as insurance reform measures and dared the Republicans to fillibuster it, thus exposing them as champions of corporations over everyday people. Then pass the budgetary measures under reconciliation. It’s what the Republicans did many times during Bush’s administration. If the program works and the people are happy, no Republican would vote against it in ten years. If it doesn’t work, it should expire in ten years and try somehting else.

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  • tjoyce994

    “No one really knows what’s in the bill because” the savages of the right have been braying about “death panels,” and the media is terrible at reporting the news, relating the lies instead of reporting the facts.”
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    The dems have to take some responsibility for the lack of knowledge about what was in their bill. It became obvious early on that the Republicans would tell any kind of lie to obstruct passage. The news media wasn’t really interested in educating the public. It was cheaper and more entertaining to put opposing politicans on the air and allow them to exchange talking points. Cat fights as opposed to real information.
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    Republicans Howard Baker, Bill First, and Bob Dole publically stated that bill wasn’t perfect but that Republicans should get behind it. Where were the TV ads that made this information available to the general public? The bill allows you to keep your kids on your insurance until age 26. Why wasn’t that plastered all over the TV? Better yet, why wasn’t this information in the dems talking points?
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    Health care is a personal issue that directly affects me, so I understand why everyone hasn’t invested the time I have in getting information. But, on an issue where the republicans and the insurance companies declared war, democrats needed to be more proactive.

  • tjoyce994

    I agree. Some items of the bill (elimination of lifetime cap, pre-exisitng conditions, and policy recission) should simply be put to a vote. Let the republicans filibuster or worse yet, flagrantly vote against the public interest. Then let them explain those votes to the people they represent.
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    The dems need to grow a pair. If they walk away from health care, there is a good chance that they will lose their elections anyway. At least go down fighting.

  • http://dmmorrison.wordpress.com dmmorrison

    If you think people are angry now, just wait until they absorb the meaning of the Republican-dominated Supreme Court’s Republican-endorsed decision to let corporations call the shots in our elections. I wouldn’t want to be a Republican candidate then.

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    Ivy:
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    The filibuster itself is actually very old, and it used to take two-thirds–not 60 votes–to break one. What is new is the frequency with which it is used. (Have I mentioned I’ve got a solution that might bring an end to that?)
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    Here, in case you are interested, is a brief history of the filibuster and the cloture rule:
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    http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Filibuster_Cloture.htm

  • stuartzechman

    Thank you very much for responding to commentary, KT, the more information on this, the better.

  • pafro

    I once asked one of the Washington Post reporters (I think it was Perry Bacon) whether the Vice President’s job is to provide the 60th or 61st vote to pass legislation and the joke went wwaaaayyy over his head.
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    Fwiw, I think these Lieberdems like Nelson, Landrieu, and Lincoln exposed a chink in the “all filibuster all the time” mentality. Early on in this process a bunch of them declared that the cloture vote was more important than the final vote, and that they would not vote yes on cloture if the could not agree to the final bill. Then they all laid down a bunch of silly markers, found the nearest cameras to declare they were the key vote, and strutted around like a bunch of peacocks.
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    As we all know, the political climate right now is very unkind to that sort of egotistical garbage, and the way they all declared their positions non-negotiable with regard to cloture and the final vote on the bill made it very hard to get out of the limelight once they realized it wasn’t a good place to be right now.
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    Now Lincoln is going to lose this year, possibly Bayh as well (pretty please?), and Nelson will have to go back to selling health insurance come 2012.

  • hms09ky

    I like this comment–Special interests designed the bills now being discussed and lawmakers fell in line.
    Let’s take another look at Medicare- for- all. Build on a cost- effective model that works.

  • apr2563

    http://www.thestate.com/local/story/1123844.html
    Another compassionate conservative. He is running for Governor of S.C.
    We got to stop feeding those poor kids. They just grow up and breed.

  • tjoyce994

    When he talks about babies having babies, I presume he is referring to Bristol Palin?

  • apr2563

    tjoyce: You know when the righties talk about values they do not apply those rules to themselves. They only consider the godless, pagan, facist, communist, gay, media controling, socialist, left wing traitors as lacking values.
    They never consider states that have approved gay marriage have less divorce. Blue states have less divorce. Blue states have less out of wedlock births.
    They have the only true word. Limbaugh, Beck, O’Reilly, Palin are their apostles. Their epistles are written by the afore mentioned and the Free Republic, Commentary, and NRO.

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  • Ivy_B

    Karen, thank you so much for your link to the information about the history of cloture. In my irritation, I stated my thoughts poorly. You are quite right – it is the skyrocketing use of it that is the problem.
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    On the Media discussed this and interviewed James Fallows about it. I was half listening to this as I commented before and he said it was new.
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    That was Tumulty thing, not thina!

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