Why Incremental Health Care Reform Won’t Work

Note/update: A White House official denies that Emanuel has been floating any specific proposal. Says the official: “Rahm continues to speak with members and hear their thoughts, but has not been pushing or advocating one position over another.”

Politico reports that, in an effort to rescue what he can of the Obama Administration’s health care initiative, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel is floating a proposal “to pass a scaled-down bill that would focus on insurance reforms and some expansion of coverage.”

This, I’m assuming, is the same Rahm Emanuel who, in an interview with a group of reporters last July, reflected on what happened the last time Congress did something like that. “I remember all the high-fiving each other for the portable health care in ’96. It’s been empty,” Emanuel recalled, adding ruefully: “Everybody was high-fiving each other….but the portable health care bill in ’96 didn’t do anything, very little.

Back in 1996, Emanuel was a top aide in the Clinton White House, which had attempted and failed at major health reform in 1994. So health reform advocates, led by Senators Edward Kennedy and Nancy Kassebaum, came back with an incremental measure, which became the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. It was hailed as a major step toward ending the insurance industry’s ability to deny coverage to sick people. It was supposed to make it easy for people to take their insurance with them when they left a job. These days, pretty much the only effect you see from it is that annoying form your doctor makes you sign saying you understand your privacy rights.

So why didn’t it work the way it was supposed to? For the same reason that other piecemeal reforms haven’t.

The basic premise of insurance is shared risk. But if a disproportionate number of the people who have it encounter a catastrophe, everyone ends up paying so much that they might as well not be covered at all.

Take the “community rating” laws that five states have passed. They sound great; everyone pays the same premium, regardless of their individual health history. But absent a requirement that everyone have insurance, what they have done is drive up the price of premiums–an additional 40%, estimates Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist Jonathan Gruber, who is also a technical consultant for the Obama Administration.

That is because these kinds of well-intentioned smaller reforms create a vicious cycle:

*Sick people buy insurance. What choice do they have?

*Healthy people, knowing they won’t be discriminated against if they get sick, decide to go without coverage.

*Insurance companies, which are footing the medical bills for a lot of sick people without offseting premiums from healthy ones, raise their rates.

*Even more healthy people decide to drop their insurance.

* With an even sicker pool of people, proportionately, insurance companies raise their rates more …

The lesson has been that, unless you have pretty much everyone covered, insurance reforms won’t work. “What many people don’t understand is there is a very high level of interdependence among the parts. The legislation that is in front of Congress now is incremental reform,” says Princeton University public affairs professor Paul Starr. “You just can’t go down much further than this.”

Say, for instance, you pass a bill that makes it impossible for the insurance companies to discriminate against sicker and older people. “You’re going to make it expensive for young people to get insurance, especially with the inefficient individual insurance market we have today,” says Starr. “Basically, health insurance becomes just a very bad deal for young people.” And without healthy people in the pool of those covered, it also becomes unaffordable for sick people, too.

Related Topics: incremental reform, insurance reforms, jonathan gruber, paul starr, rahm emanuel, Health Care
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  • square1

    This is also why it is completely insane to take single-payer off of the table.

    I have no doubt that private insurance carriers are more efficient than the government at assessing the relative health risks of individuals. So, if you want a health insurance system that charges individuals different rates depending on their relative risks then go with a private insurance market. In you want a health insurance system that denies coverage to people with pre-existing risks and conditions then go with a private insurance market.

    But if you want to pool risk across a state or nation, if you want universal coverage, and if you want to ban denials based on pre-existing conditions, then there is no need for private carriers because you have just stripped them of their ability to perform the primary task for which they are suited: assessing risk.

    We don’t need private carriers to pool risk. The U.S. Treasury is larger than any carrier’s reserves.

  • stuartzechman

    KT:

    …without healthy people in the pool of those covered, it also becomes unaffordfable for sick people, too.

    …if, and only if there are no price controls negotiated between the government and the health care industry on hospital stays, prescription drugs, medical procedures and devices, and laboratory tests.
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    The governments of rest of the developed world have negotiated open, transparent price contracts with providers covering their entire countries’ health care markets, almost like how the Federal Reserve sets the price if money through by controlling interest rates. These price controls are a major reason why the OECD (rich countries with great health care systems) average cost of health care per person in 2007 was $2964, compared to $7290 in the US.
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    With open price control negotiations off of the table, then yes, it’s a question of making everybody in America pay ridiculous prices to subsidize those who need care at ridiculous prices.
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    It looks like the Administration is bailing on this fight, KT, so can we finally have an honest discussion of the bubble price of American health care…before this issue fades into the night of Issues The Administration Doesn’t Want To Discuss Anymore?
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    I won’t play gotcha with Gruber’s political comments in November, I swear.

  • grape_crush

    “Basically, health insurance becomes just a very bad deal for young people.” And without healthy people in the pool of those covered, it also becomes unaffordfable[sic] for sick people, too.
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    Having to buy health insurance is the problem? Who knew?
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    Allow people to buy-in to Medicare, subsidizing up to 400% of the poverty level, pay for it by letting the Bush tax cuts expire and with a surtax on financial transactions.
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    There’s your legislation.

  • stuartzechman

    Done deal.
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    Done.
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    What’s the problem? Why is the White House chickening out?

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    “You’re going to make it expensive for young people to get insurance, especially with the inefficient individual insurance market we have today,”
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    If they can get exchanges in, the individual insurance market might be helped out. But yes, this doesn’t solve a lot of the fundamental issues.
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    One interesting note: I’m Canadian and I was talking to a coworker. He went down to the States once (one of the Southern ones, the name escapes me) and had to go to the hospital. He gave his insurance information (obviously, a Canadian insurance agency) and, after returning home, he got a call from the hospital telling them how pleasant it was to work with his insurance company. It strikes me as interesting because I’ve seen, posted here at Swampland, others mention the amount of cost there is in administration both at hospitals and insurance agencies and I can’t help wonder if part of it is because those two groups treat each other like they’re each the enemy

  • deconstructiva

    Kudos KT for this post. I’m about to head out but good luck exploring this (and good luck w/ comments given bitter moods today. Am I the only cheerful one?). If only one increment gets done, ban pre-existings / denied claims / recissions.
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    Like your blast-from-past mentioned, you had a similar parallel discussion last fall. The subject was officially the PO and Snowe’s trigger, but the comments pondered Maine’s Dirigo plan, why everyone needs to play, and other ideas. (The comments also included pluk’s repeated kicking of KT, but let’s skip that part, k?) Dirigo starts at #16. “1000 words” tomorrow, please? Thanks, KT.
    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/05/health-care-the-public-option-fallback/

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Doctors, Hospitals, Insurance lobbyists and pretty much everyone who’s “anti-government” which is definitely more than 40 seats in the Senate

  • octavian21

    Something does need to be done. Like I said on JK’s post, unless you have ever been seriously ill without health coverage than you really have no say in this matter because you could never understand what it is like. You could never understand what it is like to have to sell your business because you could not afford healthcare. What it is like to lay awake at night in pain, wondering what is wrong with you. Do I have cancer? Will I die soon? Without health care there is no one to turn to and no oner who cares. The GOP understands this and actually revels in the misfortunate of poor minorities in big cities, aka the real world.

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    fixing that typo…

  • spob

    KT, great post. But isn’t this something that should have been pretty obvious back in the day? (And something that should have been pretty obvious to Obama when he started yapping about his opposition to the mandate.)
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    Healthcare reform has to do with a lot of different things, much of which is created by government intervention in the first place. For example, the idea that we all have to pay for free riders in ERs (through increased costs) is from EMTALA (note: i am not criticizing EMTALA, just pointing out its effects). And then there’s the employer-based healthcare insurance system, which is a direct result of tax laws enacted years ago.
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    Obviously, you cannot blow up the whole thing and start over. But I think you can do certain things. First, the current system is a payment and insurance system. On the payment side, the main benefit to workers is that routine healthcare payments are made with pre-tax dollars. This has some downside–first, people dont have that much “skin in the game” when it comes to routine healthcare payments. Thus, they are not incentivized to reduce wasteful usage (and that wasteful usage translates into increased costs for us all). So is there a way to decouple the insurance side (i.e., to deal with casualties, e.g., a broken leg playing football) from the payment side? Would having people pay directly for some medical services spur more efficient delivery of such services (e.g., flu shots at walgreens, and Ive read that some big department store chains would like to get into medical services delivery). Obviously, we’d like to keep the pre-tax payment.
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    What about tort reform? Tort lawsuits definitely are a spur for better care, so you don’t want to eliminate them, but there is clearly abuse.
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    What about waste, fraud and abuse? Obama said there’s a lot of it. Let’s get hot, Barack.
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    How much do state-mandated coverages jack up costs for the rest of us? That could be something to look at.
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    There are ways the system as a whole can be made better. What are they?
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    And we’ll also need to deal with the “illusory coverage” your brother received.

  • sy2d

    Impressive lede:

    Politico reports …

    … because Dick Cheney says so.
    *
    Looking forward to Rahm being shown the door soon. Perhaps he can spend the extra time cooling his heels with Harold Ford.

  • apr2563

    We know why they chicken out: Big pharma, Insurance company deep pockets.

  • apr2563

    We have all sorts of models to reform. Switzerland, France, Canada, etc.
    Cheaper with better outcomes.

  • stuartzechman

    spob:

    On the payment side, the main benefit to workers is that routine healthcare payments are made with pre-tax dollars. This has some downside–first, people dont have that much “skin in the game” when it comes to routine healthcare payments. Thus, they are not incentivized to reduce wasteful usage (and that wasteful usage translates into increased costs for us all).

    That’s Jonathan Gruber’s argument, isn’t it? That’s the Obama Administrations’ entire “bend the cost curve” premise, right there, as far as I can tell.
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    Yes, if the problem is wasteful usage, and not bubble prices, that would work to keep people from getting more tests that their doctors prescribe for them, which would save the insurers money.
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    I guess we’d have to do that with Medicare, too, though, huh?
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    I mean, 40% of US health care dollars are Medicare (and it’s going broke fast), so I guess we’ll have to have Seniors’ “skin in the game”, too, if we’re to save money by not spending more on wildly high-priced medical care.
    .
    But wait…patients are incompetent to make judgments like that! It’s the doctors that are prescribing all of that wasteful care, isn’t it? How do the patients know what’s an unnecessary, low-probability of positive test, and a procedure that they need to save their lives? Surely all “unnecessary” mammograms aren’t the result of doctors’ CYA due to malpractice concerns…
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    I know! I wonder if we could have a special panel that determines whether medical care is wasteful spending or not…What would something like that be called?

  • grape_crush

    fixing that typo…
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    No need; for people who are already sick, the idea of purchasing health insurance is too costly and pretty much a fable.
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    Your (Freudian) slip is showing, Mrs. Tumulty.

  • Art Pepper

    Adopt a system from foreigners? Unthinkable!

  • afguy

    Looking forward to Rahm being shown the door soon. Perhaps he can spend the extra time cooling his heels with Harold Ford.
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    One can only hope, can’t one…

  • grape_crush

    Can I throw Tim Kaine in there as well?

  • afguy

    Adopt a system from foreigners? Unthinkable!
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    Art,
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    In a nutshell, isn’t that the main reason why a lot of working solutions aren’t being considered?
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    That they aren’t solely a free market capitalism solution.

  • jpl9

    State mandated coverage is not all bad. The state of GA mandates that insurance covers mammograms and colonoscopies. How many lives would be lost by getting rid of that mandate. A mother of four might think twice before shelling out $400 for a mammogram. Most deductibles are quite high these days, I know mine is $2000.
    Insurance works by spreading the risk whether it be auto, house or health. Most insurance companies are also regulated to insure that they are doing what they are suppose to.
    It might be cheaper for the insurance companies to pay for preventive tests.
    Good post Karen.

  • square1

    Why Incremental Health Care Reform Won’t Work

    BTW, this is a vast overstatement. Yes, some solutions involve moving parts that must be addressed in concert (e.g. community rating and an individual mandate.)

    But there are plenty of ways to address costs that could be implemented incrementally:

    1. Price Controls.

    2. Drug importation.

    3. Government-subsidized or government-provided medical equipment.

    My back of the envelope calculation is that for about $10B the U.S. could probably buy every MRI and CT machine in the country and maybe even buy an equal number of new machines. What purpose? The point would be to more closely align the prescription of tests with medical need. Doctors would NOT order a $2k test for a patient who doesn’t need it just to recoup the cost of a machine. OTOH, doctors would order tests when medically necessary without worry of racking up large bills that might not be reimbursed by insurance. The cost of a test would be for the technician and electricity. Probably $1-200 per test.

    4. Computerized/centralized record keeping. This would reduce duplicative tests and procedures, reduce errors, and reduce malpractice costs.

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  • shakrai

    Just once I’d like to see somebody in the mainstream media do a story on whether or not a mandate to have health insurance passed down by the Federal Government is constitutional.

    Smarter people than I have made solid arguments that it’s not.

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    What part of the Constitution does it violate? And how is it different from the federal government taking a little out of every everyone’s paycheck to pay for health insurance–which is also known as Medicare?

  • CP in FL

    The question is not really if the mandate is constitutional. The question is: would the law be stricken down by our ultra conservative supreme court like the campaign finance law was today? I’m sure glad that the SCOTUS decided that the interests of big business are more important than the interests of the average person.

  • square1

    Re: “Tort Reform”

    BTW, I don’t have a lot of patience with most proponents of “tort reform.” There are three reasons for this.

    First, most proponents are either industry shills (who simply want to reduce policy pay-outs and increase profits) or morons (who don’t understand how the legal system currently works or how various proposals would shake out in real life).

    Second, tort costs — medical malpractice or ordinary negligence — just aren’t a very big drain on our economy. If you banned all tort lawsuits tomorrow, I doubt my health insurance premiums would drop one cent.

    Third, the so-proclaimed “tort reform” advocates never seem to be open to genuinely intelligent, objective suggestions for reforms of our legal system.

    For instance, one big reason that people bring lawsuits is that they are seriously injured and face years, if not a lifetime, of serious medical treatment that they can’t pay for (or might not be able to pay for in the unforseeable future). The mere enactment of a universal health care system might dissuade many people from suing after an accident or doctor’s malpractice. Since they would not have to fear being stuck with tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills in the future.

    Also, if people were guaranteed treatment then their medical bills would not (or could be made to not) come into evidence in a lawsuit. Since juries often use large medical bills as a guidepost for assessing the non-economic damages (pain and suffering), removing the medical bills from evidence would almost certainly result in smaller jury verdicts.

  • apr2563

    http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1020&context=ois_papers
    Here is one opinion. You have to scan down to find that this opinion does not find it illegal. Unlike some here on Swampland who feel traditional media has not discussed this issue, please use the mighty Google and you will find it a frequent topic.

  • FlownOver

    Square1 – may your tribe increase.

    No matter how often the robots whine simplistically for “tort reform,” there’s virtually no relationship between jury awards and malpractice premiums, even less between jury awards and health insurance premiums. The actual correlation is inverse, between premiums and the insurance carriers’ profits from playing the market with the premium dollars. When their speculation pays bigger returns, malpractice premiums go up more slowly.

    Rates never came down, and continue to go up just as fast, in the states that have already imposed one sort of tort reform or another as compared to “unreformed” states. Even assuming there is a need for reform that limits recovery by the undeserving, no one yet has come up with a plan that allows continued recovery by those truly sentenced by unquestioned malpractice to a lifetime of real suffering.

    The only beneficiaries of “tort reform” will be the medical liability insurers who will continue to charge excessive premiums, then keep the money. That’s why they’ve orchestrated the simplistic, self-serving cry for “tort reform” for decades. The reform that’s really needed is the ability to sue the insurance companies for the consequences of wrongful refusal to cover legitimate medical treatment.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “And how is it different from the federal government taking a little out of every everyone’s paycheck to pay for health insurance–which is also known as Medicare?”
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    Um Medicare isn’t a private company?

  • tjoyce994

    Octavian21, I could not have said it better. Those people don’t realize that they are a job loss from being in that position themselves. Ironically, most people that file bankruptcy following health issues HAVE insuarnce.

  • tjoyce994

    “We have all sorts of models to reform. Switzerland, France, Canada, etc.
    Cheaper with better outcomes.
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    That’s one reason I am so angry now. The only reason it was necessary to reinvent the wheel was because of politics. So much time was wasted on death panels, complaints about socialism, lying republicans that claim “We have the best health care system in the world.”
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    It is still hard for me to believe that most people in American really want to keep the healthcare system we have now. Where was the business community? They had a vested interest.

  • FlownOver

    Well, if incremental reform won’t work I guess we can just wait for such a crisis as will bring about radical transformation. Hope the Forces of No enjoy that outcome when it arrives – sorry about all those American deaths in the meantime.

  • therhymer

    I’m a tort lawyer. I make a living suing doctors, among other folk. You know what? I would be happy to have a system like they have in France. For the greater good, whatever. But no one in this country even understands how that would work, because we’re so trapped in a bullshit argument between a left-center that’s so beholden to trial lawyers that no one is interested offering real solutions, progressives who are holding out for single payer, and folks on the right side of the aisle who are peddling a fantasy about how malpractice litigation is ruining the health care system, which has no basis in reality whatsoever.

    This is yet another situation where both sides are so wrong it’s staggering.

  • square1

    What part of the Constitution does it violate? And how is it different from the federal government taking a little out of every everyone’s paycheck to pay for health insurance
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    That “little bit” is called a tax. I would argue that an individual mandate to purchase health insurance converts insurance premiums into de facto taxes. And converts insurance companies into quasi-governmental agencies. As such, the unconstrained ability of carriers to raise taxes (i.e. premiums) represents an unconstitutional delegation of governmental power.
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    It would be 100% unconstitutional for Congress to pass a law granting a private individual or entity the authority to raise or lower tax rates. But that is effectively what they are saying BC/BS could do.

  • tjoyce994

    Why is being required to buy health insurance that much different from being required to buy auto liability insurance?

  • hopeful58

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    God promises to fullfill the needs of his faithful servants: (Revelation 21:3-4) With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

    This will be done by means of the Kingdom mentioned in Matthew: (Matthew 6:9-10) “YOU must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.

    Therefore, keep the following in mind:

    (Psalm 146:3) Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.

    These are the last days before God’s Kingdom comes.

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  • shakrai

    KT: It’s different because medicare is a tax. It’s collected by Uncle Sam. The individual mandate is not a tax. It’s an order from the Government to buy a service from private enterprise. What if one has a moral or religious objection to doing business with such an enterprise? We have freedom of association in this country. That also includes the freedom NOT to associate.
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    tjoyce: The mandate to buy auto insurance is different for two reasons. One chooses to buy a car. The mandate applies to people who make that choice. It doesn’t apply to everyone who draws breath.
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    The mandate is also done at the State level. Not the Federal level.

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  • Paul-no not that one

    “And how is it different from the federal government taking a little out of every everyone’s paycheck to pay for health insurance–which is also known as Medicare?”
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    The more I think about this the more my mind boggles. Coming from the “go to” HCR reporter for TIME.
    .

  • mkirschmd

    @KT, Disagree that tort reform is a ‘spur for better care’. It actually reduces medical quality by ‘spurring’ billions of dollars of defensive medicine, tests that patients do not need. With regard to your comment re waste, fraud and abuse, I admit there’s an avalanche of waste, but very little fraud and abuse, at least by physicians. See http://www.MDWhistleblower.blogspot.com

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  • tgutwald

    So, you’re saying physicians are subjecting patients to unneeded medical procedures? Do they tell their patients that or do they lie to them? Is a doctor really going to forgo tests because non-economic damages are capped at say $500,000 or if they know another physician has to sign an affidavit saying a suit isn’t frivolous?
    According to the CBO, the various tort reform measures would save 55 billion over 10 years. Last week in Michigan a doctor was arrested for committing $14.5 million in fraud and if you expand fraud to include various price fixing activities by pharm companies, I would imagine the $55 million saved by tort reform would pale in comparison.
    Also, the only people that can verify defensive medicine are doctors who are the ones who would largely benefit from tort reform. So it’s rather self-serving testimony that is difficult to verify.

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  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    re: costs. My understanding is that the cost is passed to the consumer via Doctors. If I understand this correctly, Doctor’s have to get Professional Insurance or something like that – basically insurance that covers them if they get sued. IIRC, that can run as much as 200K/yr. Now, if you instituted Tort reform and successfully dropped that 200K by half and then got Doctors to cut their salaries by as much (big if – not 50%, 100K that is), you would have lower health care costs which, if the insurance industry is responsible (big if) should get passed on to the consumer. It’s even more complex than that and whether it actually will have an impact is disputable, but the cost is real on our insurance.

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    “Health Care Reform: Common Sense Solutions”
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  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    My apologies to FlownOver – I’d written my response last night and forgot to post it, saw it this morning and posted it before I’d realized you’d already commented.

  • mkirschmd

    @tgutwald, we physicians ourselves do not always know if we are ordering a test for defensive or for medical reasons. I also dispute your point that this is self-serving for physicians. The biggest winners would be the patients. More at http://bit.ly/y6Ahh

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  • http://rebfox.wordpress.com rebfox

    I understand the argument for individual mandates and if Democrats go with a scaled-down bill I would be disgusted. However, I believe most of my conservative- leaning friends and family would still hate it because of the blanket argument that it’s increased government regulation of business. With that said, I think the Democrats should “man-up” and push their proposal through with budget reconciliation. They got into this, they should stick by their legislation. But dang, President Obama needs to give them more support than what I’ve seen this week.

    By the way, I work for the health video website icyou.com. My opinion does not reflect the website’s opinion.

  • tjoyce994

    Haven’t the insurance companies oversported themselves? They stood to gain millions of new customers, and I don’t see how that can happen now.
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    And I’m not so sure that this is a great win for the republicans. If you were going to vote republican, then nothing has changed. But I was under the impression that they planned to run against health care. If Obama is letting people buy into Medicare, that solves the problem for the uninsurable who can afford to purchase insurance. That is a lot of people. Medicare is a known quantity, and me buying my coverage through Medicare doesn’t cost taxpayers a dime.
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    It’s nowhere near the best outcome. But maybe this isn’t as bad as it seemed Tuesday night.

  • mkirschmd

    With regard to, “And I’m not so sure that this is a great win for the republicans”, who’s arguing? The American people won. http://www.MDWhistleblower.blogspot.com

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    [...] complained that you can’t pass comprehensive health care reform piecemeal (Brian Beutler, Karen Tumulty, Jason with a comprehensive summary of the argument at Seminal). But look at the language these [...]

  • http://www.indianewsblog.com/2010/01/25/786974/d-brad-wright-massachusetts-goes-purple-now-what/index.html D. Brad Wright: Massachusetts Goes Purple….Now What? | India News Blog, Latest News From India, Latest Blogs From India

    [...] There’s also the idea of doing things through the reconciliation process, which looks like a possibility. Congressional Democrats might even decide to break the bill up into smaller pieces and pass some of the key reforms that are easily communicated to–and strongly supported by–the public. Then they could build on that. Hooray for incrementalism. (Although some people think such a strategy will never work.) [...]

  • http://blog.bestbuysino.com/html/344_why-incremental-health-care-reform-wont-work-swampland-time-com.html Why Incremental Health Care Reform Won't Work – Swampland – TIME.com | Bestbuysino BLOG

    [...] link: Why Incremental Health Care Reform Won't Work – Swampland – TIME.com This entry was posted on Thursday, January 21st, 2010 at 8:06 pm and is filed under health. You [...]

  • http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/02/17/we-want-reform-so-long-as-it%e2%80%99s-free-or-really-really-cheap/ Why Health Care Polling is Not Very Useful – Swampland – TIME.com

    [...] For example, in the new poll, about 68% support insurance reforms like an end to pre-existing conditions exclusions but only 19% support an individual mandate. As Paul Krugman (linked above) and others have explained, the entire system breaks down if insurance underwriting is eliminated and universal coverage is not enacted. And by break down, I mean cost prohibitive premiums followed by an insurance death spiral. [...]

  • http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/03/12/morning-must-reads-decisions-decisions/ Morning Must Reads: Decisions, Decisions – Swampland – TIME.com

    [...] based on preexisting condition) incrementally, either unaware or unconcerned with the fact that such a plan is completely impossible.  I think they may be overstating the unpopularity of the bill, but it's hard to say; polls don't [...]

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