Sarah Palin To Join Fox News, Moving Her Even Further From White House Bid

“Sarah Palin To Join Fox News, Moving Her Further and Further From The White House Bid”
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Michael-has Sarah ever said she was going to make a White House bid and why would going to Fox preclude her from making one? I know you got pollsters asking the question but, why are they asking it?

..with time it will dawn on the public consciousness that she is not a serious contender for the White House.

We’re, um, already there, Michael. It’s mostly the people who continue giving her attention with their column inches and pixels that haven’t given up on Caribou Barbie yet.

The woman can’t form a coherent sentence what is she going to contribute fancy pageant walking?

I wonder if, had Edward R. Murrow had a chance to interview her, would she have gone the way of McCarthy. We get “fair and balanced” bull byproduct instead. And excuse the bull.

First guest oughta be Ms. Fey.

This post would have been better titled “The Next Non-Event of the Year (so far)” as this is a complete non-story.

She is, of course, a deeply unserious person with no shot at the White House. But she could still win the GOP primary, because it’s a deeply unserious party.
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As for the general election, she may well think that Real White America would stand up en masse and vote for her in the general election, overwhelming the axis of evil that is ACORN, pro-terrorism Democrats, and the P.C. police that dominate her fantasies. Who knows?
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Of course she wouldn’t embed further in the right-wing cocoon by going to Fox (that’s the point of your post, right, Michael?) if she were a rational strategist hoping to win the popular election. But who the hell ever called Sarah Palin rational?

“…with time it will dawn on the public consciousness that she is not a serious contender for the White House.”
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You mean the public that hasn’t figured that out yet, the ones who don’t realize that she’s already been outted as a serial liar and a lazy, incurious egomaniac – basically, Bush in a skirt? That public “consciousness”?

…had Edward R. Murrow had a chance to interview her…
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We don’t have anyone with that level of credibiltiy in the mainstream media nowadays, do we? The anchors engage in he-said-she-said equivalency games, and a lot of the regular commentators are more concerned about audience share than the quality of their program.

She going to continue to drive Fox’s off the charts ratings even higher. Bank on it. Keep hating her libs, but make no mistake. She is here and there is nothing you can do to stop her.

Or it could be good exposure for her in the couple years prior to a White House bid. See here:

http://www.goingrouge.net

Another great reason to throw away your television.

“She going to continue to drive Fox’s off the charts ratings even higher”
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The ratings for “Faux News” equate to 1.2-1.3 million viewers per week. Late night talk shows with HIGHER ratings have been canceled for lack of interest.
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Keep on drinking that kool-aid……….

Nice to see you’ve finally caught on to the fact that Tina and Sarah are not the same person. You’re learning.

Good try die.( well actually pretty lame). Where in the hell do you get your facts? Denial at it’s finest.

Of course, Grape, no one born after 1975 knows what we’re talking about.

Dang it, I just bought a plasma! I can’t part with it!

Michael Scherer:

If Palin were serious about running for president and winning, she would be thinking about how to expand her support beyond the Republican party core that is fed by Fox News.

George W. Bush ran for and was elected President of the United States…twice. This was accomplished by running on high base support, conspicuous displays of rightist authenticity and conviction, and vicious, ideological attacks on opponents’ credibility and patriotism. George W. Bush ran to the right of his opponents, and won because of enthusiastic, relatively unified, highly organized yet organically arising political action. The popular right wing won.
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Why does Sarah Palin need to do anything that Beltway political writers deem meets qualification for office?

with time it will dawn on the public consciousness that she is not a serious contender for the White House

Is that how it works?
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These things just “dawn on the public consciousness”, Michael Scherer?
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Are you sure you aren’t leaving out one or two necessary steps prior to such a notion taking hold in the common knowledge of the electorate? …Something to do with political media’s judgment being ubiquitously known, something to do with the press corps’ supreme other-directedness, and need to All Say The Same Thing?
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Do you really have the credibility to hand such authoritative pronouncements down from the mountaintop? Isn’t an appropriate response to these assertions of yours something along the lines of “How do you know that with such certainty?”
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Are you really unaware of how deeply the Belway political press corps is loathed for what is widely perceived (by all sides of the ideological spectrum) as a penchant for self-fulfilling prophecy, Michael Scherer?

Hey, Rocky, wanna see me pull a rabbit outa muh hat too?

Who knows, Elvis? Perhaps she’ll quit the Fox gig in the middle of 2011 in order to better serve the American people….
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Oh, wait, I forgot:
quitting governorship == OKIYAR
quitting an employment contract == bad, bad, bad

I hope that Fox has also planned on investing in a real good editor and several fact-checkers. Some of her claims are so far out that even Republicans know she has no idea of what she is talking about.

FAUX News – “We distort, you decide”

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I don’t believe Sarah ever had any intention of running in 2012. That’s a myth conjured by the liberals because they wanted it so bad. What us backwood hicks lack in societal couth and polish, we more than make up for with an uncanny amount of common sense. The woman has a plan, and all of your degradation and downplaying of her is just one the many things she will use to her advantage. Love her, hate her, no matter. She’s here! Get used to it.

Besides being funny, Dee’s comment is exactly right. Palin isn’t going to have her own show because, as Dee says, she “can’t form a coherent sentence.” Palin will just be getting paid for what she’s been doing for more than a year now for free — saying, “You got that right, Sean/Glenn/Bill,” in response to some inane “question” her would-be boyfriends ask. She’s also going to do some “specials” — that is, they’ll give her a script.

The Times reports that the terms of her contract have not been released. You can bet whatever is in it, there’s no condition she make sense. That would have been a deal-breaker.

The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

Sarah Palin keeps on growing and becoming even more of a threat to the left. That is why you see not only the comments here, but Michael’s dismissal of her.
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Better look at NY’s Best Seller list again, Michael. I believe Sarah’s book is still number 1!!

This blows away any chance that Palin will be a viable presidential contender. Americans don;t want media pundits running their country.

Palin has become what she once claimed to loath; a media elite.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

I can smell the fear from here. This woman is not going away. What an angel.

Look no further than the recently cancelled Jay Leno show. It had nightly ratings of about 5 million viewers compared to Faux New’s primetime ratings of 2.2 million.
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Pathetic. As they have demonstrated, slime sells to wingers.

Two votes for Fey!
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She would be a lot safer than that tricky Katie Couric – with tough her gotcha questions like: “what do you read?”.

“Hey, Rocky, wanna see me pull a rabbit outa muh hat too?”

Didn’t your mother teach you that would make you blind

Hey sacred, where are you?

SZ:

All great points.

I am sure that it never entered MS’s mind that it will raise her profile with her base and provide a financial cushion should she need to quit if she seeks to run.

With any luck if they do it won’t be the one Olbermann and Maddow have

I personally feel that they should keep moving farther into the ozone. Sarah’s contributions will certainly help!

Might makes right, right, ‘wingers?

“George W. Bush ran for and was elected President of the United States…twice…George W. Bush ran to the right of his opponents, and won because of enthusiastic, relatively unified, highly organized yet organically arising political action. The popular right wing won.”
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Not that it undermines your otherwise cogent point but George W. Bush lost the first election by half-a-million votes. He sued his way to the White House. You have to be very careful about how history gets written these days.

That Palin is dependent solely on rightist media to disseminate her political credentials is what’s at issue here.
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She doesn’t threaten the left so much as the elite political media establishment, who are arrogantly flummoxed enough at the effrontery of being bypassed to acquire collective amnesia about popular rightists’ recent successes in the last decade.
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If the left had the equivalent of Fox News, Howard Dean may have survived the 2004 primary, and we may have ultimately had a fighter as a candidate for President, someone who the activist left would have coalesced around. As it was, we got Bob Shrum’s candidate, someone who would play expected games with the elite political press corps, who existed to validate their positions and input into the process. The left base was left out, explicitly rejected for the elites’ (political media’s and political consultant class’) favored insider candidate. The only reason for a liberal to show up in 2004 was fear of Bush.
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If every single committed, dedicated right-wing activist does their job day after grinding day in 2010 leading up to November 2012, and the popular left, deprived of a cause to enthusiastically embrace, bereft of a truly liberal alternative, freshly demotivated by the recent betrayal of our agenda by the Democratic majority isn’t sufficiently terrified into tribal submission by MSM scare-stories of the popular right, then you will win. Screw “reaching out to independents” (they will go along with whoever is perceived to be the inevitable victor), you will win period.
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A dedicated, partisan, ideologically authentic rightist media is at the disposal of a GOP candidate, provided they are actually of the popular right base. That’s a formidable weapon to take into battle with a demoralized, betrayed liberal grassroots.
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The only thing that could stop Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee or any other real rightist would be if a relatively unknown Democratic candidate somehow almost overnight convinced a huge majority of the base that he was a liberal, yet simultaneously was able to sell himself as an anti-populist centrist to elite media, thus earning their approval (and satisfaction at his supplication and dependency). That candidate’s cultivation of tacit elite media support contemporaneous with widespread, enthusiastic base activism on behalf of liberals’ hopes and dreams would be a powerful political machine, indeed.
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Given that this latter scenario is hardly likely in 2012, a popular rightist has a decent shot at taking the Presidency.

And how history is re-written

Do you mean farther up the charts? Kinda hard to do when you own the No.1 spot.

SZ:

Sorry SZ “If the left had the equivalent of Fox News, Howard Dean may have survived the 2004 primary”

Its called MSNBC. Problem is all of their shows could be viewed in a phone booth. Actually compared to MSNBC- Fox is Switzerland. And the video of Howard screaming at a rally sent folks running for safety.

The notion that any other media will tout any conservative is ludicrous. They may have loved McCain in the primary but immediately threw him under the bus and cheered for the Home team- Obama.

Sarah who? And I should care why?

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Of course you are correct.
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Despite the best effort of career “liberals” at collective amnesia, Al Gore was savaged by the elite press corps, and eight years of Third Way betrayal (NAFTA, DMCA, corporatist regulatory polices, etc.) had turned much liberal support into nose-holding.
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W, on the other hand, had the entirety of the VRWC previously devoted to (amongst other things) the naming of Hillary Clinton as the murderess of Vince Foster at his political disposal, especially after demonstrating he had the balls to spread rumors in South Carolina about John McCain’s illegitimate, inter-racial child.
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Without the successful lawsuit, there is no Bush II Presidency, it is true. It is also true that, without the massive, enthusiastic support of the popular right, W would never have even come close.

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Fox News is the toilet bowl of broadcast news, and Palin will fit in just fine with their b.s. content, twisted facts and false representations of reality.

Hey, I hope Sarah Palin runs for the White House. Her presence on the ’08 ticket certainly helped President McCain get into the Oval Office.

Elvis, would you ask 3rdrock as question for me. Unfortunately, she indicated in a previous post that she considered me an old hag not worthy to be taken seriously.
Therefore, maybe you could ask 3rd what her great unrevealed plan might be. If it is not a desire for election, is it a desire to become fabulously wealthy, takeover for Oprah, replace Tiger as a spokesperson for certain products?

freeinpa:
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Not to be disagreeable, but you do understand that, even counting Chris Mathtews –a paragon of the Reagan Democrat mythology– the 3 hours a weekday of MSNBC’s liberal programming –some of it quite nominal– in no way compares to the 24/7 movement rightism of Fox News and Fox Business Channels?
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Are you aware that those acolytes of Che Guevarra the cast of “Morning Joe” competes with “Fox n’ Friends” every morning?
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You can’t seriously contend that liberals have anything like the structural advantages of FNC, the WSJ, the NY Post/Washington Times, or the ubiquity of rightist talk radio, right?
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We have a better blogosphere than the right, I’ll give you that. Ultimately I believe we’ll win with it. Unfortunately, it’s not powerful (rich) enough yet to gain the respect (fear) of elite media. Plus, you created Drudge/Politico, which drives political press corps narratives daily.
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Can’t you just accept winning the media war? For God’s sake, Newt Gingrich gets invited on Meet The Press to debate…Doris Kearns Goodwin?
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Come on, be honest, be happy about it. You won. You guys did the right things long before liberals had a clue that we were supposed to create our own media to bypass elite institutions. You guys were a lot smarter than liberals about these things, that’s for sure.
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Accept victory! You earned it.

Excuse me I made an assumption about 3rd’s gender. My appologies to all women.

“Without the successful lawsuit, there is no Bush II Presidency, it is true.”

As ugly as the country had become through the Clinton witch hunts and the Gore smears, the actual election of George W. Bush after he had revealed himself as a mendacious partisan psychopath, via the disgusting, lying smears of an actual decorated war hero, was truly one of the lowest moment of this country’s history that I have ever experienced. And I’m pretty old.

@2thirdsrocks, who said…
“What us backwood hicks lack in societal couth and polish, we more than make up for with an uncanny amount of common sense.”

It’s a shame we connected your swamp to the Internet, 2thirdsrocks. Your presence lowers the curve.

You must still be suffering from a head cold. Your statement should read, after Al Gore’s unsuccessful lawsuits (multiple) Bush gained the presidency. The legal battle was started by Al Gore who did not like the result of the election. Poor loser liberals like to ignore the constitution of Presidential elections by the electoral vote.

And Bush was elected despite the MSM trying to slander him with cocaine use (conveniently ignored during Obama’s run) and his Reserve status that eventually cost Dan Rather his job.

Coming after a successful 2 term President, the Demo nominee should have been a shoo-in. Instead Gore proved to be a pompous arrogant blowhard.

Sorry Stuart but I believe Bush won by feeding the far right in his primary bids (witness McCain/Bush in S.C.) and then veering to the center as much as he could in the general election. And remember in 2000 he did not win the popular vote and was elected by the Supreme Court.
In 2004 he was able to use a more centerest approach as he was terrifying everyone about 9/11.
I agree we need candidates in the Dem party that can counteract the faux populism of the right be being real populists an progressives.

A great name for the show would be ” What Would Sarah Do”. Then anytime we have a problem like the Detroit plane terrorist she can explain in great detail how she would have handled it sooo much better. Being a Vietnam vet I used to have a lot of respect for John McCain. His unleashing Palin on our public conscious has ruined my opinion of him. My being a conservative Democrat I can only hope that the Republican party nominates her for president. It will put the party back to the stone age where it belongs!!

“We’re, um, already there, Michael.”

I agree, WE are there but if you head on over to Palin’s Facebook page and other haunts that cater to Tea-bagger type conservatives, THEY’re not there yet.

Palin is a good example of how “core” conservatives live in a different world than the rest of the country (same likely applies to hardcore liberals too). Personally, I can’t imagine why anyone would take Palin seriously. I think she’s the worst case example of a politician who came of age during the Bush years. She’s all gut, no head at all, truthiness incarnate. I had the unique experience of being at a mall in Birmingham, Alabama where she was signing books the day before Thanksgiving. She shut the place down. The crowd there was rabid for her, acted like she was the 2nd coming of Jesus. There were blue collar folks who thought that she was speaking directly to them and idolized her. More disturbingly, there were a lot of people there who appeared to consider themselves serious followers of politics who thought that she was a leading light for the conservative movement and that she’d make a great president. Any mention of The Bridge To Nowhere, preaching abstinence only while her kid gets knocked up, the pipeline that hasn’t actually been built, socialist wealth redistribution vs. her state handing out oil company tax checks to its’ citizens, etc… are met with retorts of “biased liberal media”.

So, while WE may understand that she’s taking her followers for a ride and that she has no intention of running for President, the other end of the political spectrum that pays attention to her is still hoping beyond hope and is waiting for the announcement day that will never come.

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Stuart, Bush won in 2000, barely, as a “reformer with results” and “compassionate conservative,” a new kind of middle of the road leader, not a polarizing right wing true-believer. He won in 2004 as a war president. He also had, by birth, enormous institutional and financial support in the GOP. Not much comparison to Palin.
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My point is simple. You when the White House by getting the most votes, not by getting your base excited. Palin has the base, but not any clear way of getting the most votes. Going on Fox gets her what? The base. If anything, the polarizing nature of the network will make it harder for her to get the most votes.
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As for my mountaintop, I am making an informed prediction. This is not a reported fact. I could be wrong.

I love that Scherer put an entire two lines of text after the jump.
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Just admit that you’re trolling for page hits, you gigantic douche.

SZ:

Sorry but because the left keeps failing doens’t mean that the entities don’t exist.

MSNBC CNN ABC CBS NBC (all filled with former lib operatives), NYT WaPO, LAT, Boston Globe (and nearly every major city newspaper), Time, Newsweek, The Nation, Rolling Stone, Daily Kos Huffington Post among other. Then fill in the secondary liberal propaganda groups of Soros.

The reason for the failure of them? Nobody wants to hear what they have to say. You may not like that answer but the small audience is the result of small numbers of believers of what they spew.

Drudge and Politico and talk radio were the result of a growing majority tired of hearing the lies from the left. Air America and Al Gore TV were created and failed because nobody cared what nonsense they tried to peddle. It is hard to accept that your point of view is an anathema to how a majority of the public feels.

I mean no disrespect to you as I always read and try to understand your view but that’s the reality. The facade that Obama was anything but another far left liberal has been shattered. Bush may not have been ideal but I shudder to think what might have happened to this country if it were Obama then and not Bush.

Unsurprisingly I’m with SZ on this one.
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with time it will dawn on the public consciousness that she is not a serious contender for the White House
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In order for this to be true, there needs to be a mechanism to cause that dawning on the public consciousness.
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Said mechanism is supposed to be the press. But this is the same press that treats Palin Facebook updates as news.
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On the contrary, this post and others like it illustrate a mechanism that will allow Palin to garner further fame and influence.
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Thanks for failing again.

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If I could stomach watching any programming (other than football) on Fox, I think I’d look forward to her program “My Views from the Alternate Reality”.

She doesn’t have anything to offer outside the rabid base and Fox audience – and that choir won’t be swaying national elections.

freeinpa:
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Of course I agree with you that the media organs of the right were constructed specifically in response to unrepresentative (of the popular right) elite institutions. That elite media institutions constitute attempts at leftist political domination defies reality, but then again, you and I don’t even agree what “leftist” means. In theory, I should know, since I am one –and I’m as honest as I can be about these things. I would never forgo calling myself a “liberal” and hide behind euphemisms like “progressive”, for example.
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You need to be able to see the reality that the people who book Wolf Blitzer’s show, or who write for the Washington Post are different than me and people like me. The first thing that should tip you off? I refer to myself as a liberal, while these people don’t. Real liberals will actually say that they’re liberals. If they don’t, then they aren’t. If they try to get away with an ambiguous “progressive”, or fear being called “liberal media” by you, then there’s a big difference between that and liberal netroots like me. Most of the time that kind aren’t left, they’re something else.
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But I’m curious:
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Do you believe somebody like James Carville to be a “former lib operative”? How about Hillary Rosen?
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Who are you talking about, specifically?

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Of course, Grape, no one born after 1975 knows what we’re talking about.
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Some of us have watched “Good Night And Good Luck,” you know.

“Your statement should read, after Al Gore’s unsuccessful lawsuits (multiple) Bush gained the presidency.”
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You’re a liar or an idiot. The lawsuite that gave Bush the presidency was called Bush v. Gore.

SZ:

You are correct that we do not agree on the definition of a liberal and will not argue you definition which I believe is unique.

I find amusement in your description of the MSM as “unrepresentative” of the right. They passed being unrepresentative as you say and went right to outright supporters of the left. A large difference in how things are reported. Benign neglect versus active cheerleading.

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“The first thing that should tip you off? I refer to myself as a liberal, while these people don’t”

That just makes them a liar. That is how the different outlets for the right were created because the CNN and NYT of the world insisted they were non-partisan and yet their coverage was definitely left.

I commend you for your strength of character in admitting that you are a liberal. I will add however that liberals or progressives hide from admitting what they are is because it is largely unpopular.

Yes, Carville, Begala, Beckel, Stephanopoulus, Rosen etc. the list goes on and on.The revolving door from politics to MSM is as robust as the Washington/Lobbyist doors

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Michael Scherer:
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Thanks so much for responding to commentary, it is greatly appreciated. I hope you will not think that I’m concerned with winning an argument, or being contradictory for its own sake, because I believe that this honest, good faith discussion is genuinely worth having.

Bush won in 2000, barely, as a “reformer with results” and “compassionate conservative,” a new kind of middle of the road leader, not a polarizing right wing true-believer.

This a very good point, but I think that this sort of nodding to High Broderism (“He worked with the Democratic legislature in Texas to get things done!“) was just that…an olive branch to people like Broder.
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While the “compassionate conservative” line is undeniable, I believe there is a compelling case to be made that, in spite of these symbolic gestures to Beltway political media institutions, Bush’s credentials as a popular rightist, e.g. Jesus being his favorite philosopher, Dred Scott as a proxy for Roe V Wade, his Reaganist tax mantras, his very speech testifying to “country folk” outsider status, all were on high display to the movement conservative base at all times.
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It can even be argued that “compassionate conservatism” can be construed as a rejection of elite, Chicago School economics professor Republicanism, along the lines of Huckabee’s embrace of welfare state support for rural Southerners:

Huckabee signed legislation to create a health insurance program which extended coverage to children of lower-income families, to be funded in part by Medicaid, SCHIP, and a tobacco industry lawsuit settlement.[8] The program, ARKids First, reduced the number of uninsured children to nine percent (compared with 12 percent for the nation) in 2003.[9]
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In 2005, Time magazine named him one of the five best governors in the U.S., writing “Huckabee has approached his state’s troubles with energy and innovation”.[9] The Club for Growth accuses Huckabee of being a liberal in disguise, saying Huckabee increased state spending 65.3 percent (1996–2004) and supported five tax increases.[52]

While it is certainly true that George W Bush gave some lip service during the 2000 campaign to bipartisanship to secure his Beltway bonafides, at no time did we witness some sort of Sistah Souljah moment with respect to his rightist base. There was never an explicit rejection of the activist popular right comparable to centrist, Third Way Democrats’ repeated rhetorical rejection of liberals and liberalism. George W Bush would never refrain from calling himself a conservative, no matter in whose company that declaration was made. No Democrat in position for national candidacy will describe themselves as “liberal” to this day. For the most part, Bush ran openly as a movement conservative. I don’t think that this description can really be refuted.
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As far as the 2004 “war president” campaign goes, I don’t see how that accurate characterization contradicts the notion that Bush won because he consolidated enthusiastic support amongst the popular right. They got gay marriage on the ballot in Ohio, for God’s sake! Are you really prepared to honestly make the argument that Bush II didn’t successfully run to his right-wing base in the 2004 general election? Seriously?
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I think that you know these things, Michael Scherer, and the problem is that you have a tough time reconciling them with the Conventional Wisdom that Candidates Must Always Run To The Center In The General. Maybe it’s just that Democratic candidates must take special care to convince the Broders of your world that they are above and beyond willing to reject their activist base, but that might be because Democrats rely on you, the institutional press, to reliably transmit their messaging, whilst Republicans literally have their own media, which is the real point to be had from your post on Palin’s gig with Fox News.
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In any case, thanks again for reading and considering this commentary, Michael Scherer, it is always a pleasure hearing your ideas spontaneously from you.

Diecash, I don’t like/watch Fox News, but you can’t be serious in knocking them on their ratings. They consistently HAMMER the other cable news networks on ratings. If their ratings are pathetic, what are MSNBC’s?

Palin likely never had any serious political ambition once she decided to resign her governorship. Her plan since then has been to stay in the spotlight while making truckloads of money. How is this not obvious to everyone?

This is far from surprising. Sarah was looking for a spotlight to fill. Too bad for her 2012 supporters that she’s her own worst enemy when it comes to talking off script.

At least I have one thing to look forward to – seeing clips of Sarah at Fox News as put together by Jon Stewart on the Daily Show.

“expand her support beyond the Republican party core that is fed by Fox News”
You should do your homework before making comments — it is not that hard to find out the facts on Fox News viewer demographics. Their viewers consist of a substantial number of independents and yes a good number of Democrats. It is significantly more than the Republican Core tuning in –and away from the biased media on other cable and network channels.

“Bush won in 2000, barely, as a “reformer with results” and “compassionate conservative,” a new kind of middle of the road leader, not a polarizing right wing true-believer.”
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Skipping the dubious “Bush won” statement (referring to an election rather than a lawsuit), who the hell has ever tried to run for president as “a polarizing right wing true-believer”? Since Goldwater, anyway?

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freeinpa:
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Just so that we’re real clear, and you have proper information, these people:

Carville, Begala, Beckel, Stephanopoulus, Rosen etc.

are not liberals.
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Democratic operatives, yes.
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Liberals, no.
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If you put up a diary at DailyKos claiming that these people were somehow supportive of the liberal wing of the party, you’d be laughed out of town…or called a conservative troll.
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I swear to you, as God as my witness, these people and what they believe have nothing –nothing— to do with liberalism.
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Hillary Rosen is gay, but that doesn’t make her a liberal. She was the freaking president of the RIAA, for Christ’s sake! It’s not liberal to lobby Congress for the more legal power to sue ten-year-olds for downloading music. It’s not liberal to lobby Congress to pass the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. It’s not liberal to use the state to keep markets the way they are, so that monopoly interests are protected, and business models of the big guys don’t ever have to change. It’s not liberal to legislate protection from innovation for the biggest market players. It’s big-time Democratic politics, but it’s not liberalism.
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People like Hillary Rosen are industry lobbyists who believe in the version of Democratic politics where industry and finance’s interests are protected by the state, also known as Third Way centrism.
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People like Paul Begala and James Carville are consultant class hacks. In 1993, they would never have described themselves as liberals, hell, in 2004 they wouldn’t have, either. Like Rosen, it seems to be a matter of being paid to say things, not actually believing in anything.
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These people aren’t representative of liberals, they’re representative of people who have successfully made a living in Democratic establishment Washington, DC.
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Just so you know…

apollyon07 — That’s exactly my point. Crowing about the “off the charts” ratings of Faux News is pointless because all the cable news ratings are pathetic. It’s like lauding your child for a D+ because his friend earned a D.

TNT and USA each have individual shows that have double the average viewership of FOX News. Though probably far fewer lemmings.

At least I have one thing to look forward to – seeing clips of Sarah at Fox News as put together by Jon Stewart on the Daily Show.
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That is a hell of a silver lining.

Well, 2/3rds has to have something to crow about, don’t you think?

During the recent presidential campaign, I read about an extremely liberal writer who interviewed Sarah for quite a long time and became pretty well acquainted with her. Afterward, her opinion of Sarah was that she was highly intelligent and entirely rational. That was, of course, exactly the opposite of how the liberal media was representing her. The ludicrous McCain thrust her into situations for which she was essentially unprepared thus aiding the media in making her seem less than competent for political office.

My view of Sarah is in agreement with that liberal lady’s assessment while adding that she needs time to read in-depth, think profoundly and mature as a person of rare and genuine political and governmental insight. Unless she spreads herself too thin, that should not take very long with good tutoring.

Conservative books are many these days and mostly of excellent quality. Extraordinarily insightful commentary on current events is available on TownHall.com and Human Events.com to name but two of many conservative web sites. I’m sure Dr. Ron Paul, Dr. Alan Keyes, Dr. Walter Williams, Dr. Thomas Sowell and Mr. Pat Buchanan will gladly impart their extensive knowledge and profound insight for her benefit whenever requested. It hardly needs saying that one could not find better trainers than these truly great geniuses.

By 2012, it will have become common knowledge that Obama admitted to being a citizen of Indonesia on his application for governmental financial assistance—available to foreign students–and admission to Occidental College years ago (information reportedly obtained recently under the Freedom of Information Act). The Democrats will finally have to admit that he is not native born and also that he is an illegal alien since he has never applied for citizenship. Everyone will know that he is and always has been supremely unqualified to be our president. This will open the door wide for Sarah to run successfully for president if she wants to, a fact of which she is already well aware. Working for Fox News will be a huge plus in nearly everyone’s view by then.

Truth to tell, Obama’s lack of US citizenship, his clearly manifested incompetence, the Democrat establishment’s culpability in the gigantic scam on the entire nation and the liberal media’s aid and abetting their mega crime will make it impossible for voters to trust and elect another Democrat as president for many years, probably for my long lifetime and well beyond.

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I haven’t had a chance to read or post much in the last few days (at all?). Between keeping the snow cleared off of the driveways (mine and my neighbors’), working 4-12, going through our library and clearing out books I don’t want anymore (over 300 so far), starting to look for another car for my wife and playing with my new camera I haven’t had any free time to speak of. I’m going to try to catch up on reading the threads and posting a little before I take my wife out for lunch and a movie. I want Sherlock Holmes and she wants Daybreakers. It’s probably going to be Daybreakers.

Walks away slowly and tries to be invisible. Gets clear, runs for the car, gets inside and locks the doors.

It appears that you are enjoying life in Bizzaro world.

SZ:

First, being laughed at and beng called names for a conservative on a liberal blog is about as surprising as finding whores in a whore house. The actual surprise are the few that don’t resort to it.

I do find interesting the dichotomy you draw between a Democratic operative and a liberal. The division you discern between political activities (reality) and core beliefs (fantasy) place (by your definition) liberals on the extreme end of beliefs. The narrow definition you choose also suggests that you are few in number. Palin, Bachmann, birthers? Moderates by comparison.

The labeling of Rosen as an industry lobbyist does not mean most core beliefs do not fall on the liberal side of the scorecard. I certainly would not label her moderate and definitely not conservative. If your argument she is a moderate, I believe confirms that extreme nature of your definition of liberalism. By not labeling her a liberal also makes your argument of corporate whores easier to pin on just conservatives. Liberals have railed against corporations but usually have no problem taking money from them. (See liberals relationship with Soros)

As far as Carville and Begala not calling themselves liberals, I find that de rigeur. Liberals never call themselves liberals for the simple reason is that the majority of their ideas make the majority of Americans run screaming from the room.

Obama ran as a centrist and won convincingly. The MSM took the guided tour and cheered without ever inspecting his beliefs and plans. As his liberal and far left appointees and plans were revealed, he and the Democrats are sinking faster than the Titanic.The reason to move the stimulus plan, HC and Cap & Trade like the 2 minute drill in football was simple, pass it before anybody understands what is in it.

Third Way Centrism? Sorry Implying centrism with government takeover of HC and other plans is just well a lie. It is not Centrism.

What your gripe is, in the end, is not with who I classify as a liberal but with the folks Democrats elect. Again no disrepect to you SZ, but I have said many times here that the Demos and their supporters are mentally exhausted and morally bankrupt. Your discourse on elected and political liberals confirms that. Liberal Demos relish in power not beliefs.

This is not to suggest that conservative Repubs are pure. Conservatives will purge their own. The left loves it as they claim there is some big divide in the Repub party. The left makes fun of tea party folks but they will take those Repubs who stray to task. Liberals will gripe and re-elect to hold onto the power.

Thanks for reading and responding.

rb125,
Don’t try to use facts with all the liberals on this site. They choose to make up their own facts to fit their beliefs.
I Find it very interesting how much liberals fear Palin. All you have to do is mention her name and they go wild. She is a very capable women who scares the hell out of the left. They fear her ability to relate to a majority of our citizens. The left and the MSM were successful in demonizing her in the short time of the election. She has already gain a lot of popularity among people of all political beliefs and her time at FOX will only allow more people to get to know her and find out how capable she really is. The left will continue to try and put her down but it will not work this time.
Fact and truth are so inconvenient for liberals.

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As yet I have not heard Ms. Palin delineate any of these common sense solutions she refers to. Liz Cheney by contrast has no problem articulating her ideas and solutions. When listening to Ms. Cheney it is clearly obvious that she has intellectual might. I clearly do not get that impression from Ms. Palin after having listened to her speak.

It seems, or I suspect, that there must be those on the right identifying with her who are willing to overlook or perhaps because of that identification do not see her intellectual shortcomings. Or perhaps this is what “common sense” is supposed to mean. In other words you do not need brain power if you have that magic ingredient.

I also suspect that a large number of her enthusiasts are attracted to her and because of the Christian component. I can only surmise that those who possess a keen mind and champion her (Pat Buchanan) overlook her lack of qualifications because they believe at least that they are in agreement with her philosophically.

For those of whom this may be true I ask, do you not want and insist upon someone with intellectual heft to bring your ideas to the white house?

Having heard what Ms. Palin has to say and the way she says it, I cannot take her seriously enough to hate her. Dislike, yes. But quite the opposite. To quote Maureen Dowd, “I love her.” She is most entertaining when she embellishes the content of her embellishment invariably being gibberish. In a perverse way it is thrilling to listen to. When reading a transcript it is indecipherable. Perhaps I am not folksy enough.

Finally, this from Steve Marmel:

Fox didn’t hire her for her critical thinking skills. They didn’t hire her for “fairness” or “balance.” They’re paying her to do what she always does — take a story, squeeze it through the play-dough fun factory of her mind — and crap it out in the shape that best fits her brand.

Be careful, FOX…

Your viewership numbers may “shoot up” to begin with using Sarah Palin, but they will PLUMMETT when the viewers realize the kind of person she really is. You just may have hurt yourselves big time!