Obama’s White House Job Summit Takes On Unemployment, Baking Bread

Up on Capitol Hill Thursday, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke painted yet another grim picture for the future of work in America:

The high unemployment rate is a major concern because we’re seeing, not just 10 percent unemployment, but we’re seeing very long duration of unemployment. We’re seeing a lot of people on part-time work or in short hours. And that has implications, not just for the short-term, but for the skills and labor market attachment of workers going forward. It’s going to affect people for many, many years.

At the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, President Barack Obama made a show of seeking a solution, gathering 130 academics, journalists, corporate and political leaders for a four hour summit on jobs. Since coming into office, Obama has been big on such summits, holding them on health care, on the nation’s fiscal problems, and now on jobs.

They are all, to put it bluntly, somewhat painful exercises–long, monotone and repetitive. If you want to get a teenagers interested in public service, do not suggest they watch any of the breakout session videos, which the White House is sure to post soon on YouTube. Anticipating the drudgery, hour upon hour of important people in gray suits talking about their own interests, the White House played a video at the beginning, about baking bread. No kidding–130 powerful minds sat in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building to watch a video on flat screen televisions. Here it is, like one of those old Sesame Street montages of factory work I used to love.

Most of the ideas that were raised in the summit that followed have been raised before–lower the corporate tax, increase tax credits for job creation, fix old trade agreements, make new trade agreements, increase the number of visas, build more infrastructure, more green energy initiatives, etc. But then new ideas were not really the focus of the event. The focus was on sending a clear signal that the someone was trying to do something about all the suffering that Bernanke says still awaits. The baking of that loaf–I know, I should use less yeasty metaphors–is much less fun.

In several breakout forums, and then a town-hall style discussion with the President, the summit participants took turns talking about their own interests. The woman from the National Family Farm Coalition announced that family farms give the “biggest bang for the buck” when it comes to government spending. Bob Iger, of Disney, noted that it was tempting for him to start making movies from a corporate base Ireland, where the corporate tax rate less than half the one he deals with in the United States. Jimmy Hoffa of the Teamsters Union said, “NAFTA, CAFTA and the workers got the shafta.” And so it went.

Jay Newton-Small has a nice story up about the ideas being bandied about on the hill, none of which will solve by themselves the long-term problem of high unemployment. But such is the situation Obama finds himself in: There are no quick government cures for the crisis that still envelops the American workforce. There is, however, a White House determined to show that it is doing what it can to address the problem.

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  • deconstructiva

    Michael, re: increased tax credits for job creation idea mentioned, did they address that as credits for encouraging job hiring (i.e., voluntary) or as mandated for it (you want public money or tax credit for it, then earn it by hiring the public already)? I wrote sim. comment at lovely Jay’s post. From what you saw, did anything else catch your eye as promising, or do you have your own ideas / analysis? thanks

  • destor23

    Scherer says “There are no quick government cures for the crisis that still envelopes the American workforce….”

    That’s pat but also untrue. There’s actually a lot the government could do that would work rather quickly. The government could, for example, divert TARP money into small business loans or better yet grants. The government could launch actualy government-run infrastructure projects like creating universal broadband access and building transportation infrastructure that would immediately create jobs (in hard-hit areas like construction, too!)

    The government could also create immediate tax incentives for firms that take on new employees.

    We shouldn’t fool ourselves into thinking that this is a somehow intractable problem or that the government has to sit and wait until either markets or the economy provides an answer (or doesn’t).

  • freeinpa

    “There’s actually a lot the government could do that would work rather quickly. The government could, for example, divert TARP money into small business loans or better yet grants. The government could launch actually government-run infrastructure projects like creating universal broadband access and building transportation infrastructure that would immediately create jobs (in hard-hit areas like construction, too!)”

    The government can facilitate (or hinder) job creation but it cannot create jobs. You have an excellent idea about re-allocating (divert is such an ugly word) capital from TARP into small business loans at low nominal rates. Again as long as they did not dictate the kind of business that received the loans.

    Infrastructure projects seem attractive but they will also be subject to political shenanigans. Setting the priority of these projects will be fraught with problems. One way to help would be to suspend Davis-Bacon. Unions will go ballistic but the idea is to help as many people as possible and to build the projects as cheaply as possible. The multiplier affect increases and the capital reaches a higher number of folks in need. An almost universal wage could be set which allows for easy implementation. Schools could be built that would help education, put people to work without forcing communities to raise taxes. Another way to increase efficiency is to ban any sign on the project that touts the job as having anything to do with the stimulus bill. How much money was spent in essential self-aggrandizement of politicians in signs. Although I guess it employed the signmaker.

    Unfortunately, Obama and his staff are clueless about creating jobs. The summit is a feeble attempt to try and do anything as he sees his next election slipping away. Few actually held jobs included a bottom line responsibility. You had politicians, academics and unions. One has a theoretical passing with job creation and the other two are self-serving and would only create inefficient transfer of capital.

  • destor23

    Hey freeinpa, I disagree with some of what you’re saying and you disagree with some of what I’m saying but damn that was a thoughtful response. Nice way to end my work day.

  • jcapan

    And yet another installment in the fatuosity of being Scherer

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    “There are no quick government cures for the crisis that still envelopes the American workforce.”

    Who is asking for quick solutions? I’m not an economist but I think one thing Keynes would be recommending at the moment, are massive, infrastructure transformation projects. Projects with high-multipliers. Government investments that spin off new, long term jobs, built around the new industries that result from the long term gov’t investment.

    Keynes would also be recommending targeted tax cuts for job creating enterprises. On the capitalization issue my guess is he would have rewritten the capitalization laws, temporarily, along with guaranteeing any failures. The money sitting on balance sheets could then be used for real economic investment.

  • freeinpa

    Agree on all counts

  • jcapan

    BTFW, it’s “envelops”

    Wait on Scherer’s “Thx, fixed, bye” interaction

  • sacredh

    I sit in awe at the master of snark.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “President Barack Obama made a show of seeking a solution”

    “Obama has been big on such summits”

    Why so cranky MS?

    Oh here. “They are all, to put it bluntly, somewhat painful exercises–long, monotone and repetitive”

    Like JK’s “review” of BHO speech, you weren’t entertained.

    Swear to Godot I find the Beltway media to be children.

  • gysgt213

    I guess the paragraph breaks are never going to be fixed.
    .
    And Kudos to freeinpa and destor for showing that we can have civil thoughtful conversations here with out all the stupid name calling and personal attacks just because you disagree with a different point of view. I enjoyed both posts I’m going to try to do better myself when responding to points I disagree with.

  • deconstructiva

    This may be waaaaay OT …or not… “but” will we ever see stuff like this here at the swamp?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/02/victorias-secret-20-layer_n_376969.html
    …on topic if we realize some people got hired to do this….

  • gysgt213

    decontructiva-You are sooooo wrong for that!

  • sacredh

    And I thought i had a good job. If you stop to think about it, isn’t it a bit like Seven Degrees of Separation? Seriously, who can honestly say that they don’t work with at least one a$$hole?

  • gysgt213

    Apparently Time Inc., is allowing its partner JP Morgan to rip off its own free lancers. Nice to know the rip off is purely optional too.
    .
    http://gawker.com/5418425/time-inc-will-pay-you-promptly-if-you-pay-them-for-the-service

  • Cliff

    They are all, to put it bluntly, somewhat painful exercises–long, monotone and repetitive.
    .
    Is someone regretting their entrance into political journalism?

  • Cliff

    A classy establishment like Time? I can barely believe it.

  • kbanginmotown

    He flies around the country, dutifully listening to the same McCain stump speech over and over and over again…
    .
    But, when confronted by a jobs summit…it’s a “monotone and repetitive” exercise.
    .
    GMAFB.

  • kbanginmotown

    Amen!

  • mges123

    The people who work with scared can certainly say that. They would without doubt be correct!!!

  • sacredh

    And that’s one of the nicer things that get said.

  • sacredh

    And that’s sacred, not scared.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    The government can facilitate (or hinder) job creation but it cannot create jobs.

    To beleive this statement is to beleive in magic. Though there is a difference in the incentives that drive private industry vs government, the idea that the governent can’t create jobs is a myth. All it has to do is place ads and hire people.

    I think what you mean to say is that the government can’t create wealth. Except that that’s also false. As the final arbiter in contract disputes and guarantor of security against both theft and invasion, the government is actually an important member of the ‘free Market’ team.

  • Cliff

    But he has all this free time to post videos about Tiger Woods and whatsherface’s dress at the White House Dinner!
    .
    What more could a journalist want?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Cross posting from the last thread…….
    .
    Managers of large companies are routinely rewarded for their efforts to cut their workforce and make do with the least number of people they can manage. What they fail to realize, is that due to the ‘fungible’ nature of their payroll budgets, they are actually biting the hand that feeds them by reducing the purchasing power of their own customers.
    .
    Everyone who talks about entrepreneurs creating jobs is living in a mythological world. The real world utterly fails to comport to Reaganite doctrine.
    .

  • http://24ahead.com/ kattest123

    More importantly, when the mentioned increasing the number of visas (i.e., bringing in new workers) in order to reduce unemployment, did some of the cash they got from hi-tech companies or imm. lawyers fall out of their mouths?
    .
    One of the best ways to free up jobs for Americans would be to reduce the number of permits given to foreign citizens and to increase imm. enforcement.
    .
    Yet, Scherer and the other hacks at Time have no interest in that pro-American plan, but instead are content to simply write down the Rube Goldberg-ian plans of corrupt DC insiders.
    .
    P.S. At the same time as the stimulus supposedly “saved or created” hundreds of thousands of jobs, the government granted hundreds of thousands more work permits to foreign citizens (green cards, H1B, etc.) (The last bit is a link, click it for the details.)

  • carotexas1

    Good post Paul, I wonder when the Corporations that have already shipped jobs overseas and now give veiled threats to move everything there as the tax base is lower will realise what they have done to the American worker and the best consumer of their products. Banks and Wall Street have contributed to a triple hit that will take a long time to recover.
    .

  • theotherjimmyolson

    Thanks for saving me the trouble,Paul

  • Cliff

    I think he was being clever, sacredh.

  • Ivy_B

    If only Michael were again assigned to President McCain, I know he would be happier and at least some of his posts surely would be less snarky.

  • sacredh

    My bad. Sometimes things whoosh right over the top of my head and I don’t even feel the breeze. Posters on here drop snarks and I don’t understand that. Orbital mechanics either.

  • freeinpa

    “To beleive this statement is to beleive in magic. Though there is a difference in the incentives that drive private industry vs government, the idea that the governent can’t create jobs is a myth. All it has to do is place ads and hire people”

    Difference in incentives? You want to talk magic. The government can place ads and hire until the cows come home but unless you BELIEVE that the ability to tax is the same as creating revenue the government cannot create anything. Or to paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, you eventually run out of other people’s money.

    And the government does not create wealth either. The government through the legal system enforces laws to keep order and may be part of the system but it does not create anything. Unless of course you count Obama dumping decades of bankruptcy law and handing the UAW ownership of GM and C “creating” wealth or jobs.

    Although it would not be as orderly, people through a barter system could create jobs and wealth by tradign goods and services without this “member” of the free market system.

  • http://djtrudeau.wordpress.com djtrudeau

    While I certainly understand your point, kattest, immigration and work visas will continue to be necessary as long as American students aren’t going to college for areas we need to do a lot of hiring for in the future. I have worked in engineering staffing for 12 years and if we didn’t have H1B visas, many of my jobs would go unfilled. There are simply too few American students going to college for engineering and sciences. It’s where the future boom in employment is going to be and we’re doing our youth a great disservice by not encouraging them stronger to go into these fields.

    While I can’t speak to other fields, since visa holders secured the ability to change jobs, their pay is on par in mine with citizens. In fact, most of my clients would avoid the visa process if they could because it’s a pain. The problem isn’t that there are too many immigrants taking “our” jobs. The problem is that there are too few American-born people going into the fields we need them in.

  • freeinpa

    Cross posting to last thread

    Your assumptions are not any more correct here.

    According to your logic since corporations have been cutting the civilian labor force should have been falling as would GDP since the have reduced their purchasing power.

    Both are not borne out statistics. The civilian work force has grown (http://www.bls.gov/web/cpseea1.pdf). Either the decline in major companies is misstated or someone is creating jobs. Could it be the mythical entrepreneurs?

    The same large companies become more efficient with reduced work forces and have extended its customer base globally so profitability has increased.

    When one starts to criticize “doctrines” it is helpful to have some basic understanding of simple economic principles and not employ mythical reasoning as a substitute

  • kbanginmotown

    Good Point, Paul.
    .
    I was surprised to learn (from my son, who’s taking Econ 101) that even Adam Smith realized that the damage to the workforce, of driving wages below the “natural price” of labor, would ultimately hurt the entrepreneur.
    .
    Yet, it is a lesson easily ignored by industry and government.

  • freeinpa

    The data shows that salary and wages as measured by the median of the employment pool shows that since 2000 have increased. The mythical cry of wages falling is just that a myth.

    http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet

  • sacredh

    freeinpa: There have been several years when the jump in my healthcare premiums have jumped so much and food/fuel/energy prices have spiked to the point where my yearly raises failed to keep up resulting in a net decrease in available income. I think you can argue that falling wages is the end product.

  • sacredh

    My premiums are going up 10% for 2010.

  • http://djtrudeau.wordpress.com djtrudeau

    In my job, freeinpa, I’ve seen twenty charts showing twenty different trends, most of them flat in terms of wage increases. I work in employment and I can tell you right now that over the last ten years working with highly skilled candidates, I’ve seen almost no gains in what they’re making. Hiring has also been flat. These things, I believe, are at the core of our problems.

  • freeinpa

    sacredh:

    The argument being made is that companies are cutting jobs and wages which is destroying the economy. That argument is false.

    I will not disagree with you that fuel/HC costs have risen at a faster rate. Costs of other items though have fallen, hence the success of stores like WalMart and Costco.

    I will try to find data whether over all compensation is increasing (includes pension, HC and other benefits) I do not know your personal situation but overall compensation may have risen as well. While someones HC premiums may have risen, the employers contribution has risen as well which need to be included in overall compensation. Some folks may have seen an actually decline in “take home” pay while their employer has had a much larger decline in profits.

    I believe small entrepreneurs have had a better experience at allocating its capital since every dollar out directly impacts the owner. Larger companies like the autos or airlines ignore the bigger impact of contract wages, inefficient work rules and exorbitant costs of HC and Pension in the short run but as you can see from both industries they have become bankrupt in the long run.

    Another example of this inefficiency is something we have here in Penna. If you use the turnpike system here we have EZ Pass. Automated tolls. Yet we have toll booth collectors at these locations at $18.50/hr (38,000/yr) exclusive of benefits. Some are north of $60,000/yr. A perfect example of rising wages with no increasing efficiency benefits. The state would be better suited taking the money and re-training these folks in another productive area.

    This is not to say that rising wages are bad, but from an economic standpoint, especially public jobs needs to have efficiencies to justify the increases or folks who are paid on merit shoulder an ever increasing cost which may be the exact situation you find yourself.

  • bryanfromhouston

    Let’s be perfectly clear, there is no magic elixir for longterm stable jobs. Real jobs require real demand and real people with real money to pay for products and services.
    .
    Those things don’t exist in our present state and our Congress (and most Americans) are too myopic to understand what a long-term investment looks like and why it provides for future prosperity and efficiency gains. So, we refuse to engage in the sort of measures to streamline our infrastructure, financial, medical care, social and educational services. We are being grasshoppers while winter comes upon us.

  • freeinpa

    djtrudeau

    I can’t truly disagree with you. One of the laws of large numbers (Labor stats) is the trends in a sector or group which may be radically different the the general trend is blurred.

    I am not sure what you mean by “highly skilled” candidates so I can opine on what you are experiencing. I can tell you that in certain areas, Accounting, financial services, HC (nursing primarily) education among some others have seen solid increases. I am not referring to CEO comp either but entry to seasoned candidate.

    There are imbalances in the system and they only exist at the highest levels which is always the easiest target.

  • http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com lawyermommy

    I did not think Obama was a magician and voted him in because I believed, and still believe, that his stellar education and intellect will give him a very intellectual and strategic approach as he works to resolve our septic economic morass.

    Again, as I have always stated here, let us wait and see. I think Obama is fabulous and voted for him but I still have a wait and see attitude because afterall, he like others before him were all politicians. Remember George Bush Snr. and the “read my lips, taxes promise”
    Oh well, I trust Obama, but lets wait and see.

    LM

    http://chiefadvocate1.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/criminals-now-use-technology-to-track-stalk-and-kill-innocents/

  • bryanfromhouston

    Here is the other thing that we fail to deal with regarding our jobs situation…the structural imbalances.
    .
    And I’m referring to taxation, health care, wages, energy cost and efficiency and environmental regulations. In some of those areas, there are vast imbalances. Those have to be corrected. Some will be painful….lower of wages to be competitive with the rest of the world….healthcare costs removed from the employer – if people want healthcare, they should just buy it on their own….and some will be helpful….environmental regulations should be applied globally and if not, tariffs for offenders as well as energy costs should be modulated by removing the U.S. market of speculators and refusing to allow central bank financing to any financial entity that engages in such speculation.
    .
    Finally, we should turn our thermostats down, go to smaller cable packages, and reduce our consumption to increase savings and pay down our individual and national debt. This way we’ll have a little in store for a rainy day. It helped me when I was laid off till I found a new job.

  • http://jingleyanqui.wordpress.com Jingle

    i agree that trying to focus on your own jobs, or careers, family, friends may help you realize achievements in more effective way. No body has or can control or turn the head of the president around unless he figures out himself..

    your ideas are very constructive and helpful anyway, good luck.

    Appreciating Fears
    http://www.jingleyanqiu.wordpress.com

    Happy Sailings!

  • sacredh

    freeinpa: I’ll grant you that the employer’s share of premiums etc. have risen just as much and are really a part of the total compensation package, but the bottom line is still that take home pay still doesn’t have the value that it used to have. I really can’t complain myself because the economic downturn hasn’t had much of an effect at all on me. There’s not a day that goes by that I’m not thankful that I have a good job, excellent benefits and job security.
    .
    We’re spending less this Christmas (by almost half) than we did last year but it’s because last year we thought there was a chance that my wife might not make it for this Christmas so I told her spend whatever she wanted to. She’s fully recovered btw. Off shopping again so later folks. Hopefully I’ll be back before midnight.

  • freeinpa

    sacredh”

    I can’t argue with you on the take home pay. Sounds like you made a wise adjustment to the situation. As a country, I think we have forgotten that recessions and job losses can’t be legislated away. I know some think it can be it doesn’t happen. As a nation we always expect things to move upward, wages, quality of life etc and never assume that there is risk in the decision we make financially. I know I have been guilty of it at times.

    Glad to hear about your wife. In the end the only true assets we have is family.

  • kevinincolorado

    In Colorado I did the unemployment thing got all my paper work called in for payment waited a few more weeks nothing. Called in and was told my claim still needed the job verification stuff done by them. Now its been 8 weeks since I finished the paper work. I am in danger of losing my place to live and my car. They keep telling me 2 more weeks or so every time I call in. Calling them is a 2 to 3 hour wait also.

    Funny how I pay for this benefit and they would rather make me homeless than give me some money back to survive on.

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