Obama’s Human Resources

My God when does the Democrat madness of SPEND SPEND SPRND stop?
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The country is BANKRUPT you idiots!!! It’s time to say NO MORE!!

Thanks, Jay! Short version: ‘nuff said. re: last sentence, you can use any words you wish – pottymouthed ones to describe this (crappy) jobs situation highly desirable.
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Long version: I favor remaining TARP funds go to US / jobs and not to banks. Please keep pressing Congresscritters on this, Jay. No more bank bailouts …and make them sell / write down their foreclosed homes inventories already. Take the balance sheet hit and get it over with. Remember banks willingly took TARP funds from Bush (even if their self-inflicted woes resulted from their own derivative-driven greed and stupidity, but I digress).
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I hope lawmakers actually read this blog. Can we ponder ideas to get companies to start hiring again already? My ideas often wind up as cricket food but maybe longtime readers can come up with stuff that gets DC “thinkers” (quote sarcasm intended) quoting …and thus lawmakers moving. Maybe.

The country is BANKRUPT you idiots…
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What a good reason to make sure that all of it’s citizens feel the pain. COBRA, what a waste! Extended unemployment benefits are for slackers. What we need are more soup kitchens and breadlines, That’ll teach everyone that theres no such thing as a free lunch.

In the meantime Christmas week is coming up so here in the VI, we can look forward to a steady arrival of Leer jets and megayachts so that the captains of industy can celebrate their forsight in making sure that the layoffs preceeded the drop in sales and that their inventories are adequate to put off rehiring for yet another quarter.

…I know it’s thursday but you would never act trollish, overuse bold text, and instead be considerate, correct? A country can’t go backrupt since it can print fiat money to its heart’s desire. Of course a Great Depression-era Germany inflation crisis thingy will naturally erupt if the currency is not backed by more revenue, gold, or whatever, but true bankruptcy is impossible.

How did those Republicans tarnish the Stimulus?
They lied about it and the corrupt media printed their words with little in the way of analysis or objectivity.

One thought (per c.2) – while current stimulus works are meant to help encourage job hiring (and recovery.gov site tracks this), are the jobs mandated? If not, do so already. Hey, it’s public money and companies don’t have to take it, so make new hiring a requirement for getting the works projects.
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Will all “free market” biz’s choose to collude and refuse the stimulus ala Galt? No way. There will be plenty of cos. on the edge who need the work, even if they must …hire someone (shudders). And if you own a biz, even one with a 33-yr. old biz plan, why aren’t you hiring already? If not, you’re not helping the economy – you’re part of the problem, not the solution.

“The country is BANKRUPT you idiots!!! It’s time to say NO MORE!!”
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So now that all the money has gone to the top families and individuals who already had money in the form of tax breaks they didn’t need, bailing out banks and corporations who made disasters out of their business, and government contractors to feed an out of control war effort, you think its a good time to say no more. Next I guess you will call for a tax cut to dig us of this hole.

Actually soup kitchens and breadlines are a thing of the past. People are now surviving on food pantrys.
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I guess when that is all used up, then people can just starve to death. Is that the Democrat’s plan once they waste any money left in the treasury?
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Oh that’s right, we don’t have anymore. Even Decon thinks that the country cannot go bankrupt. Oh well, see you all in the next great country called the United States of Anarchist!

” .. Given the GOP tarnish on the last stimulus bill, ..”

Can it be that the DNC needs a crash course on marketing/ propaganda/ “psyche-ops”/ “skunk works” …

Why do the DEMs assume that their good intentions and good works will always sell themselves?

Rusty: ” .. The country is BANKRUPT you idiots!!! It’s time to say NO MORE!! ..”

I wonder what that means.
If Rusty is worried about the record deficits – then the country has often been bankrupt – yet wise Rusty never jumps ship.
And through it all, Rusty seeks out more wars …

Hoover/Curtis 2012!

“Why do the DEMs assume that their good intentions and good works will always sell themselves?”
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I don’t think they do, but neither do I think they’re very good at marketing the Democratic or, god forbid, the liberal brand (to be kind). But, due to the authoritarian-following instincts of so many and the abject corruption and failures of the corporate press, industry and their professional liars will always have an advantage over those who are more honest and more dedicated to leading us to our better angels.

Tax cuts! Hell yeah!

I’m going to guess that Rusty isn’t interested in a pro-American way to reduce unemployment (I might be wrong). However, I know that neither the BHO admin nor Time hacks like Jay Newton-Small are interested in a commonsense, pro-American way to reduce unemployment. JNS knows that asking a BHO admin official about that would be the end of her “journalism” career, and so too do Time’s other hacks and the other hacks in the rest of the MSM.
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If anyone would like to help get Americans back to work, ask political leaders why they aren’t supporting the plan at the link, and get their response on video for Youtube.
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We need to do the reporting that hacks like JNS refuse to do.

During campaign ’08, did Obama pledge to reward companies for hiring workers here instead of overseas, or similar? What’s being done about it? If we’re going to have famous biz job cuts (even if free market / Randian economics say govt. should butt out of business …so why did Wall St. banks take TARP funds? but again I digress), then mandate hiring in order to get them. Ditto for govt. contracts, especially military supplies. We’re now going to have more Afghan fighting, alas (whether or not we’re there anyway), and the troops will need more supplies. Regardless of “govt. intrusion into business”, someone will want to supply ‘em. Hire us to make ‘em.

” .. and their professional liars will always have an advantage ..”

Nice no more.
The stakes are high.
This is war – a culture war. And all is fair.
Even the so-called “liberal” media seems to be caught in the mode of forever reacting to what the other side says and does. Forever whining like a wimp wronged.

Thus, for now the enemy determines the agenda and the talking points.
It is time to take the fight to the wingnuts and watch them squeal.

[For instance: The wingnuts hate big government. They want to eliminate Medicare! And HHS!
The lie must be bold, unapologetic, shrill. If you are wondering how to work it, borrow or steal Karl Rove's playbook of psyche ops..]

” .. reward companies for hiring workers here instead of overseas, or similar ..”
Over 10% unemployment. Horrible.
Yet let us not forget that there are groups of our society, such as the American Indians and the African-American, who seem to face tremendous odds – even in prosperous times.

Most of us know of a supremely qualified former classmate who – even though the rest landed (multiple) job offers before they left college – (s)he wouldn’t get an entry-level position even at the leading companies which were furiously hiring, spotted the EOE tag and camped at the congress pleading for more H-1B visas for foreign workers.

[Sounds like what a wingnut would do - and not blink an baleful eyelid .. At times we tell ourselves and all comers that such cannot happen in USA, the land of opportunity. And then we know it can happen and it does happen in USA everyday - to millions of Americans.]

During campaign ’08, did Obama pledge to reward companies for hiring workers here instead of overseas, or similar? What’s being done about it?

Good question…of course, there are things (like removing that incentive to offshore work) that could/should be done without spending a whole lot of money…thoughts from Krugman:

The alternative would be policies that address the job issue more directly. We could, for example, have New-Deal-style employment programs. Perhaps such a thing is politically impossible now — Glenn Beck would describe anything like the Works Progress Administration as a plan to recruit pro-Obama brownshirts — but we should note, for the record, that at their peak, the W.P.A. and the Civilian Conservation Corps employed millions of Americans, at relatively low cost to the budget.
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Alternatively, or in addition, we could have policies that support private-sector employment. Such policies could range from labor rules that discourage firing to financial incentives for companies that either add workers or reduce hours to avoid layoffs.

Of course, the right-whingers will moan that to take legislative action of this sort is to blaspheme against Capitalism and the Free Market…me, I’d love to go into midterms with the GOP arguing against job creation because it violates their ideological sensibilities.

…add underemployed / gave up looking and the jobless rate soars way higher. And the Native American situation is a disgrace to us. I do know a few from eastern Europe who have had employment issues (two of them I worked with at past jobs). All were here legally w/ visas, green cards, etc. (and long hassles getting green cards).

…excellent points, esp. about WPA. My grandparents were in that and it kept them fed during the Depression years. Maybe a smaller version of that is needed, even temporarily.

There should be a job for anyone that wants one in this country. If incentives to companies are not enough to get the unemployment rate down, a national work force should be created. There are plenty of roads, bridges, and houses that need to be built or repaired. There are green energy projects that can be built. This can be paid for by taxing the wealthy, taxing businesses that have there headquarters in other countries but do business in the US, and getting out of these senseless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Next, we can tackle the homeless problem.

“Even the so-called “liberal” media seems to be caught in the mode of forever reacting to what the other side says and does.”
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The corporate press relies on two things that, in the present society, don’t foster a basically accurate and useful rendition of what’s going on in the world around us, i.e., the news: the seriousness of both political parties to govern and profits generated by being entertaining. Currently being forced to treat both Republican rhetoric and White House party crashers as serious and newsworthy, it’s easy see why so much stupidity abounds and why smart people are choosing the alternatives that now exist.

Liberals of the world the post above is the perfect example as to why as a thought process folks believe liberalism is mentally exhausted and morally bankrupt.

The statements are some of the most naive I have seen here. Great thought: if any one wants a job they should have one. Wonderful. I feel better now. What if they are undereducated, untrainable and no discipline to work. Who is the lucky guy who get to hire him. The argument for the illegal immigrants is that they fill a void in doing task that no folks don’t want to do here. So do we pay folks to want to work but don’t want to expend the time or effort.

And yes we can tax the wealthy and businesses to pay for all of this (and HC) and they will not alter their behavior to lower their income or shelter it. And yes lets tax companies with headquarters in other countries so we can tick them off enough so they stop selling/producing goods here (there go some more jobs) which will occur just as they stop buying our debt to support this insanity.

Then after the homeless we can put a Prius in every driveway and a toofurkey in every kitchen.

How many other people live in your little world.

You and Cesar Chavez Kattest.
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It’s true what they say about politics and strange bedfellows.

folks believe liberalism is mentally exhausted and morally bankrupt
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Prove it.

The Pennsylvania Dutch helped bring this country into being and now they’re fixing on taking it back out.

Cliff

Are you still 5?

See 10 and 10.2 Proof in black & white

I’m less inclined to say that liberalism itself is exhausted and more inclined to say it has morally bankrupt and exhausted leaders. Big difference.

Managers of large companies are routinely rewarded for their efforts to cut their workforce and make do with the least number of people they can manage. What they fail to realize, is that due to the ‘fungible’ nature of their payroll budgets, they are actually biting the hand that feeds them by reducing the purchasing power of their own customers.

Everyone who talks about entrepreneurs creating jobs is living in a mythological world. The real world utterly fails to comport to Reaganite doctrine.

There are plenty of roads, bridges, and houses that need to be built or repaired.
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Objective truth.
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There are green energy projects that can be built.
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Objective truth.
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This can be paid for by taxing the wealthy, taxing businesses that have there headquarters in other countries but do business in the US
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Pragmatic solution to the balanced budget problem.

liberalinpa:
” .. the perfect example as to why as a thought process folks believe liberalism is mentally exhausted and morally bankrupt. “

We didn’t know that “liberalism” has a mind and soul.
But you seem to blog a lot more about ‘liberalism’ than any other “ism”.

Try this: “… the perfect example as to why I believe pure capitalism/free-enterprise is promoted by the mentally exhausted and morally bankrupt. “

I don’t remember hearing you screaming in all Caps during the Reagan administration.

My grandparents fed themselves during the depression. In fact they hardly knew there was a depression. There’s a quick and easy way for the government to fix this problem. It’s called GETTING THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY!!

cfukara

We? How many people are living in your head?

You are correct liberalism does not have a mind or a soul.

And I never once argued for a “pure capitalism/free enterprise system which suggests you to be mentally incompetent on most counts in your argument.

Obama’s “human resources”:

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/first-person-sho0ter/

According to your logic since corporations have been cutting the civilian labor force should have been falling as would GDP since the have reduced their purchasing power.

Both are not borne out statistics. The civilian work force has grown (http://www.bls.gov/web/cpseea1.pdf). Either the decline in major companies is misstated or someone is creating jobs. Could it be the mythical entrepreneurs?

The same large companies become more efficient with reduced work forces and have extended its customer base globally so profitability has increased.

When one starts to criticize “doctrines” it is helpful to have some basic understanding of simple economic principles and not employ mythical reasoning as a substitute.

In fact they hardly knew there was a depression.
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Not everyone is/was a farmer, and there were plenty of their fellow Americans who were severly impacted by the Great Depression. You can’t deny that it happened and that it took substantial government intervention to alleviate its worst effects.
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There’s a quick and easy way for the government to fix this problem.
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I fail to see how your grandparents feeding themselves during the Depression is related to government action.
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It’s called GETTING THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY!!
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A fair, level playing field requires a good, active referee to enforce the rules of the game. The laissez-faire economic policies of the right-whingers have failed to reign in the excesses of the free market.

ack….
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‘rein’ in, not ‘reign’ in.

“There should be a job for anyone in the country that wants one”. Funny! Fact is, just a few short years ago there was. You fail to mention though, that not everyone in this country wants a job. Way too many able bodied citizens in this country don’t want to work, yet feel they’re entitled to the same rewards that the hardworking people earn. And thanks to the liberal ideology they are given just that. But who pays for it? The working man.
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You say let’s tax the wealthy. That’s precisely the reason they move their businesses to other countries. that and the fear of what cap and tax and healthcare reform will do to their bottom line. Love ‘em or hate ‘em, the wealthy are the ones who create the jobs. The more money they make, the more factories they build, and the more products they buy. That creates jobs, and it doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to see it.
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Green technology is a joke. Sure it will produce a few jobs in the short run, but when the end result is a product that no one can afford, how long do you think those jobs will last?

“Green technology is a joke. Sure it will produce a few jobs in the short run, but when the end result is a product that no one can afford, how long do you think those jobs will last?”
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Fossil fuels replaced whale oil as our primary energy source. “Green technology”, i.e., replacing Exxon-Mobile’s profit-swelling crack with something sustainable, is the long run product, if our corporate masters will let us develop it.

“According to your logic since corporations have been cutting the civilian labor force should have been falling as would GDP since the have reduced their purchasing power. Both are not borne out statistics. The civilian work force has grown (http://www.bls.gov/web/cpseea1.pdf). Either the decline in major companies is misstated or someone is creating jobs.”
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Jesus, the stupid hurts. First off, “the civilian labor force” includes the unemployed so it tells you nothing about “creating jobs”. Second, GDP fell off a cliff last year (you really do live in your Mom’s basement, don’t you?): http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJsot7dyr5kQ.
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When trying to appear that you know what your talking about on the economy, ahem…”it is helpful to have some basic understanding of simple economic principles and not employ mythical reasoning as a substitute.”

” .. You fail to mention though, that not everyone in this country wants a job. Way too many able bodied citizens in this country don’t want to work, ..”

There are many in search of that elusive job. Even in good times when Reagan would say “there is a job for anyone in the country that wants one”, a company would advertise that it has 10 job openings and thousands would show up early for interviews.

Being qualified, able-bodied and desperately in need of a job may not land one a job – even among the available ones for which one is qualified. In case the statement is TRULY preposterous to you, then perhaps you do not belong to the ‘wrong’ demographic groups such as the American-Indians, the African-Americans and, in many cases, female. (Or perhaps you do not make hiring decisions.)

We hear that sentiment often. Yet the creeps who state thus also state that less than 4% unemployment rate in our economy may not be attainable or even desirable.

Duplicity ‘R us.

I’m not one to criticize a simple typo. Everyone makes ‘em. My grandparents monetarily were quite poor back then, and they weren’t farmers. Pop-Pop was a barber actually, but just about everyone knew how to grow a garden and raise their own meat. They sewed their own clothes and never went hungry, nor did they allow their fellow man to. And they did so of their own free will, not government mandated. The old saying is that they were poor but didn’t know it. It took government intervention to fix a problem that the government itself created. They took an economic downturn and turned it into a fullblown depression. I can’t help but be reminded of what Rahm (dead fish) Emanuel said. “never let a good crisis go to waste”. Government is taking over more and more facets of business everyday, politicians who have never run a business in their lives, think they know what’s good for us. Until they get out of the way and let America’s free market innovations take over we will continue to slide downhill. We don’t need more rules, we just need to enforce the rules that were already in place. We got into this mess because of greed(ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE) plain and simple, how can we expect a bunch of greedy politicians to get us back out of it?

Yeah and the fuel powered engine replaced the sail as the means to propel a boat across the ocean. The concept of alternative power is not a new idea. Wind and solar power have been around practically forever, you would think by now it would have caught on. Oh, I know! The evil oil corporations have kept it stifled, is that it? The state of California is on it’s last leg thanks to the environmentalists and greenscreamers, by you’re logic it should be head and shoulders above the rest of the country. What say you?

free: ” .. And I never once argued for a “pure capitalism/free enterprise system ..”

So do you argue for anything – when you are not casting aspersions on liberals?