In the Arena

The Wrong Word

Over at the Commentary blog, Max Boot notes that even the gung-ho U.S. special forces seem “a bit worn down and pessimistic” in recent conversations he’s had with them about the situation in Afghanistan. I’ve had similar conversations with rank-and-file members of the U.S. military recently–in part, because they’re not sure that this mission can actually be accomplished (very unusual for our can-do military), but also because they’re exhausted and overstretched after eight years of combat, in the necessary Afghan action and the unnecessary war of choice in Iraq.

Boot’s prescription is as predictable as it is lame…

He thinks morale would improve markedly if the President uses the word “victory” in his Afghanistan rollout next week. But “victory” is a word that was never used by David Petraeus in Iraq–it was only used by unsophisticated bully-raggers like John McCain–and it is a word that would be laughable if applied to Afghanistan (just as it remains fairly implausible when applied to Iraq). Success is a better word than “victory,” less bellicose, more in keeping with the spirit of counter-insurgency doctrine.

Boot is on firmer ground when he suggests  that morale would improve if Obama hews to the McChrystal recommendation of 40,000 troops, but I think a much stronger morale booster would be if the President conveys a firm, reasonable sense of what can actually be accomplished in Afghanistan (and the region), and why it must be accomplished–no matter the number of troops he is sending. A plausible sense of mission needs to be re-established…and it would be a nice morale booster if he reinforced this message to the troops by (a) finding a way to deliver it personally in Afghanistan for the holidays and (b) spending either Thanksgiving or Christmas with his family at either Fort Hood or Fort Lewis here, with the families of troops either returning from deployments or rotating downrange.

But there is one further step the President should take. In almost every conversation I’ve had with members of the military who have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, the most powerful morale buster is the sense that they’re in this all alone–that the rest of the country expresses “support” for the troops but isn’t really involved, individually or emotionally, in the war effort. (“Thank you for your service” is the punch line for more than a few jokes and sardonic quips.)

If the President really wants to raise flagging morale, he can get the rest of us involved in Afghanistan when he makes his speech next Tuesday. He can name some charities–like Greg Mortenson’s project to build schools or Matt Damon’s efforts to provide clean water (in Africa now, but it could be expanded to Afghanistan and Pakistan)–that people should be supporting in the war zone. He can ask people to donate clothing for Afghan children or seeds for Afghan farmers. He could set up an office–yes, Glenn Beck, a czar–to coordinate this effort. As I wrote yesterday, I’d favor something even more tangible–a tax to fund the war effort–but I’m not holding my breath.

It has been a privilege for me to spend time with our military these past eight years since September 11, 2001. The culture of service and sacrifice–and the reciprocal provision, by the government, of gold-plated social services that would thrill any liberal–represents the best we can be as a society. In fact,  the President should appropriate the old Army slogan and say that it is time for us, as a nation, to Be All We Can Be…in support of the Afghan war effort and make some specific suggestions about how that can be done. It’ll produce a morale surge among the troops–and, I suspect, an endorphin-laden feeling of solidarity among the rest of us as well.

Related Topics: Barack Obama, David Petraeus, Max Boot, Afghanistan, Uncategorized
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  • FlownOver

    Col. Kilgore put it so well: “I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like… victory!”

  • cfukara

    ” .. in the necessary Afghan action and the unnecessary war of choice in Iraq. ..”

    ?

  • cfukara

    O, the mysteries of the imperial, the inscrutable nice people.

    Reminds one about that picture of the napalmed Vietnamese girl running down the street – naked.

  • hellslittlestangel

    You say you want Obama to say what can actually be accomplished in Afghanistan. Tell us — what the hell would that be?

  • nflfoghorn

    “–yes, Glenn Beck, a czar–”

    Must be part of that hundred-year plan I’ve been hearing about.

  • palininatowel

    What is odd is the rare agreement among commenters here on Afghanistan. A number of the conservatives have taken a “get out” position on Afghanistan and a number of liberals agree.

    But it looks like Obama is going to give McChrystal pretty much what he wants.

    Too bad, in my estimation. Afghanistan is as inscrutable and iunsolveable today as it was the day the British created it.

    I hate to see more lives — American and Afghan civilian – wiped out in this mess. But it looks like that’s exactly where we’re headed.

  • kathy

    I’d love to see him mention Mortenson’s project – as long as it wouldn’t sink it to be tied to the American President.

  • larry278

    Peace with Honor, Mission Accomplished, Victory, all of these words mean nothing when said by a POTUS or someother US bigwig. Call it a bug our or bring the troops home. It means that US troops are out of harms way,
    Regardless of Prez Obama’s goals, there won’t be peace of any sort in Iraq or Afghanistan when the US troops leave. Regardless of what Prez Obama says the mission of US troops is, no mission will be accomplished & victory(?), US troops haven’t known victory since WW II ended with VE & VJ day.
    When the USA attempts to save face-all of the faces have a 2 inch thick coating of rotting, formerly fresh, raw eggs coating each face of the living. Birds, worms & other animals who prey on corpses consume all of the dead bodies, eqqs & all.
    Perhaps, some poet will write an, “In Flanders Fields…”, sort of poem for the USA’s current boondoogles in the Middle East (Right now the USA says that US troops are in combat in Iraq & Afghanistan. [US troops may be in other regions but they are advising, monitoring & in striking position or whatever.])
    Someday the surviving troops may get back to the USA. Getting the dead bodies back to the USA could turn into a problem. The corpses left in the Middle East could be called something American in a foreign place till the USA pays to get these dead bodies & puts them in US burial grounds. We don’t have clever poets as the UK had to eulogize our dead in our Imperialist, Colonial Wars of the 20th & 21st Centuries.

  • cfukara

    More troops.
    There is a light at the end of the tunnel ..

    Lest we forget … What had those Vietnamese done to us – to ‘justify’ the vengeful slaughter of their millions – by the godly, forgiving christians?

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    How about a war tax?
    -
    http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/11/larson-rangel-murtha-frank-join-obeys-war-tax-bloc.php
    -
    That would make the issue more concrete, and give a sense of shared sacrifice.
    -
    Meanwhile, here in reality, Karzai heads the world’s second most corrupt government, and we spend something like 4X Afghanistan’s GDP on our occupation there each year. Few Taliban are left there. It has never been a modern country; it won’t be modernized by foreigners like us. There is no good reason to escalate our involvement there.

  • cfukara

    ” .. [US troops may be in other regions but they are advising, monitoring & in striking position or whatever.] ”

    Shhh. Don’t be ‘left behind’.
    The open secret is that the theatre of war – is shifting from the Middle East to the resource-rich Africa – with the epicenter of the killing fields in oil-rich Nigeria.

    [As usual, the imperial planners have been at it for decades. As usual, it slowly ramps up - in lieu of a precipitating event. Have you been following the ramp-up? The west's official and non-official (PMC) black operations have been actively eliminating targets and destabilizing countries for decades. AFRICOM is in place. Huge embessies/communication hubs built. Well-equipped, overpowering military bases in most countries of Africa - and a nuclear base just off the coast. Even our duplicitous UN, IMF and World Bank provides no respite for their economies and th plunder of their resources. Not even WHO. Our Blackwater happy killers - often attached to an embassy - have been in operation for a while ....]

  • http://www.compuduck.com/cardcomp/ Steve Stein

    Joe, I think you are drawing a distinction without a difference.

    You write: “I think a much stronger morale booster would be if the President conveys a firm, reasonable sense of what can actually be accomplished in Afghanistan”

    That’s called “defining what victory is”. Because “victory” to the troops means going home, which is what they all want to do.

  • nflfoghorn

    So it would seem. What would be best is to have that multi-national task force like we were going to have in Iraq. We can’t nation-build that place. But if we’re trying to catch terrorists we can have a presence there without infinitely pouring our $ down a rat-hole.

  • michaelfury

    “they’re not sure that this mission can actually be accomplished”

    You mean THIS mission?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/the-gas-must-flow/

  • cfukara

    Perhaps the Africans have reason to dread the end of the “war”s in Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistan … Most of the billion-dollars worth of war materiel – especially the rough-terrain armoured vehicles – now in that region will not be shipped back to Europe and USA …

  • michaelfury

    “they’re exhausted and overstretched after eight years of combat”

    Don’t worry, Mr. Klein. These boys are on their way:

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/first-person-sho0ter/

  • bitterpill8

    Joe: points for making the effort. The pity is that words can be no substitute for action: we don’t know what we can accomplish in Afghanistan. Rhetoric is not going to be a substitute for reality. I don’t see how the President can boost morale, stem the decline in our position in Afghanistan and satisfy the bean counters when it comes to managing our finances at home.

    Anyway: have a great Thanksgiving with your family and friends. The same to all commenters, KT, JNS, AS and MS.

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    Mathew Hoh, the senior State Dept. official in Zabul province, recently resigned his post due to his disillusion with the “mission” in Afghanistan. He said, “I have lost understanding of and confidence in the strategic purposes of the United States’ presence in Afghanistan.” This is the first official to resign in protest to the war in Afghanistan. The Administration, through Richard Holbrooke, tried to silence him by offering him a position at the embassy in Kabul. Mr Hoh refused and has since went public with his opposition. Between Hoh and Ambassador Eikenberry it is becoming quite clear that even senior American officials are understanding the aimlessness of our presence in Afghanistan. What is victory? What is success? Social and/or political reform are fantasies. Security is elusive, and becomes more so with each increase in military personnel. After 8 years of static insurgency and $36 billion in wasted aid to a corrupt and illegitimate Afghan government, I think it is long overdue that we hand over responsibility to the Afghans. The Community Defense Initiative (CDI) seems a reasonable transition while we scale down our troop numbers.

  • destor23

    In 2001 an international criminal cartel attacked civilians in the United States and we were told that those criminals were being harbored by a brutal dictatorship within Afghanistan. So our military was supposed to be sent on a clear mission to crush that dictatorship as a means towards killing or capturing the criminals behind the attacks.

    That we would spend the next decade as a nation at war was not part of the deal. Back in 2001 it was unthinkable. So I guess I oppose any effort to impose a sense of “shared sacrifice” on the citizens — I think what most people wanted was the destruction of Al-Qaeda and the capture of bin Laden not war without end.

    There is no tolerance that I see among the people for a kind of “life during war time” full of sacrifice and putting the nation’s strategic goals ahead of our own. So to me that means we should make less war not try to solve the problem by going all in.

  • tillkan

    All your nice humanitarian ideas are bound to be tainted and mostly worthless and transitory because they accompany military occupation.

  • jcapan

    From Boot to Klein to Hedges, if we’re going to round out the above “debate”
    .
    The Disease of Permanent War
    .
    “The embrace by any society of permanent war is a parasite that devours the heart and soul of a nation. Permanent war extinguishes liberal, democratic movements. It turns culture into nationalist cant. It degrades and corrupts education and the media, and wrecks the economy. The liberal, democratic forces, tasked with maintaining an open society, become impotent. The collapse of liberalism, whether in imperial Russia, the Austro-Hungarian Empire or Weimar Germany, ushers in an age of moral nihilism. This moral nihilism comes is many colors and hues. It rants and thunders in a variety of slogans, languages and ideologies. It can manifest itself in fascist salutes, communist show trials or Christian crusades. It is, at its core, all the same. It is the crude, terrifying tirade of mediocrities who find their identities and power in the perpetuation of permanent war.”
    .
    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/05/18

  • destor23

    Thank you. I haven’t really found the right way to say this but you have. This whole notion that we should collectively, after 8 years, rally around this thing rather than just end it is absurd.

  • jcapan

    Well, Destor, “I” haven’t done squat except cut and paste it. But read the entire, seminal piece. Hedges is brilliant.

  • cfukara

    ” ..manifest itself in fascist salutes, communist show trials or Christian crusades. ..”

    And we, of the western civilizations and the history’s elite. most effivcient annihilators of humans the world over – wage war on the perpetrators marching behind all those ills – except the Christian crusades.

    I wonder why ….

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    Just curious, but how does Hedges equate Christianity with fascism or communism? These seem to be so blatantly distinct as to suggest some deeper, more perverse implication on his part. If, as he says, it is merely a question of moral nihilism, then what is it specifically about the Christian crusades that renders it more notable in this regard than, say, the brutal Islamic expansion across the Arabian Peninsula, occupation of Jerusalem, and attempt to conquer Europe, events which sparked the Crusade to begin with?

  • formerlyjames

    I support our troops and all that, but at the risk of setting off a firestorm in the phony right wing summer warrior segment, I have to tell these volunteer, professional, mercenaries that theirs is not to reason why, but to do or die.

    Having gotten that off my chest, I have to express sympathy for Obama, for having inherited a mismanaged war effort and facing the prospect of damned for whatever he does. But lessons learned are that this quagmire is doomed. Bill Moyer had an excellent program this week documenting LBJs facing pretty much the same problem. His legacy is one of remarkable achievement with a black mark for the futile war and never ending expansion. “May I have more, sir” isn’t just Dickensian, it is the military mantra, suitable to the ancillary, “We didn’t get the support to win”. Like the A-bomb? I don’t know that I favor full withdrawal, but the current road is not passable.

  • cfukara

    “theirs is not to reason why, but to do or die.”

    Ouch!
    The lot of “we, the people”, the masses ..

  • formerlyjames

    I don’t even know if I got it right. Do or die, or do and die? I’ll have to look it up. It’s just that the Charge of the Light Brigade keeps ringing in my ears when I think of this horribly mismanaged thing that the neocons and right wing foisted upon us.

  • cfukara

    ” .. it looks like that’s exactly where we’re headed.”

    At times “man-made” major catastrophes have a certain predictability to them – unless a seismic event occurs to alter the course.

    Years before we went to war in Iraq, there was someone in online newsgroups who often wrote “War is inevitable” whileanalyzing the significance of current events leading to the invasion.

    Students of the west’s (and USA’s) increasing reliance on resources from Africa, our imperial posture/designs and the thinking of our war mongers project that in a few years – come next decade – we will be directly or indirectly (through proxy) slaughtering the Africans (with the epicenter in Nigeria) – at a rate in millions a year ….
    (1,000 words for an imperial/neo-con/official/christian and media justification of the carnage?)

  • cfukara

    Do we get a different perspective if we replace “Christianity” with “Christianism”?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianism

  • cfukara

    ” .. on a clear mission to crush that dictatorship as a means towards killing or capturing the criminals behind the attacks. ..”

    “Clear”.
    As far as “clear” missions go, you may remember that we are in the historical habit of changing those. With regard to iraq, you may remember that we were after Saddam’s WMDs (even though we showed no interest in securing the nuclear stockpiles and sites.)
    After we declared – against the protests from Bush#43 – that we found no WMDs in Iraq, still we found reason to stay: We wanted Saddam dead or alive.
    Then we captured Saddam, had him strangled and still, we stayed and advanced another justification.

    So goes with Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran .. and Palestine, Syria …. …. and Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Cameroon, CAR

    ["Clear"? The imperial mission underlying the invasion was not explicitly stated and known to the population at large. ... hence the need for the numerous and frequent "push-pull" opinion polls conducted to drum up support for the war of aggression in Iraq.]
    .
    Now it seems, what our sassy neo-cons claimed was a dictatorship in Afghanistan was NOT: It seems that the “Taliban” represented a people’s movement with strong underlying nationalist sentiments which we cannot easily squash – just like the colonial British (and French) couldn’t crash American nationalist movement for independence.

    Notch another murderous blunder – at par with our Bush and Blair’s quixotic crusade in search of Saddam’s WMDs.
    —–
    Why are we surprised? Supposes a band our murderous, supremacist KKK terrorists (whose existence is wll-known to our government and who train on our federal lands) killed people in Africa.
    Supposes also that they had the nerve to claim responsibilty for the act.
    Then suppose the Africans came in hot pursuit while dictating to the USA that we must arrest and deliver the American citizens to the Africans for a certain death sentence (“for killing a bunch of tree-dwelling natives”, so Beck-Limbaugh duo would exclaim in patriotic disgust!)
    Of course we would expect the sovereign USA government (of the Democrats) to refuse to comply with the dictates of a foreign government.
    After all we have our laws (which protect the liberty, and favour the ‘happiness’, of our citizen over that of a foreigner) and we have our (uber-alles) foreign policy objectives with regard to Africa.
    —-
    And thus, the sovereign Afghan government (of the Taliban) refused to comply with the requests of the white west.
    Note that before our charges and invasion, Al-Queda is said to have been unknown to almost all villagers in Afghanistan and perhaps not even known to their lawmakers. Yet a significant chunk of their population have been dislocated and/or killed – because of Al-Queda.
    We are still in Afghanistan. We say that we are waging ‘war’ – in a supposedly sovereign land. Are we ‘at war’ with Afghanistan?
    [Is the Al-Queda still in Afghanistan? Suppose the Afghani put us on trial claiming that there were no Al-Queda based in Afghanistan when we invaded . ... and suppose they pointed to the duplicitous saga of Saddam's WMDs as further evidence of our MO ... ]

  • WisconsinLiberal

    I may be about to piss off a lot of people right now but i am in a bad mood and don’t care :)

    If the US was acting in an imperial fashion then we would have picked a heck of a better place to go do so. Afghanistan is as poor as it is for the simple reason that there are almost no natural resources of significance in the country, not counting opium poppies. So while our involvement may be questionable it is most definitely not for imperialistic/colonial purposes, if it was we’d occupy someplace with a few more resources. I mean, this is a place even the British Empire decided was not worth the effort to control. and given the territory they controlled there were not many places they made that decision about.

    The question of whether or not we should withdraw our troops is however a more complicated one which i am not sure on myself. However my gut instinct is to say we owe the afghan people one good attempt at stabilizing their nation before we say it can’t be done, especially in the light of the Bush administrations bungling approach. Maybe Obama can’t do it any better but maybe he can. At least we can find out whether or not the US has a chance at success (whatever that is, we definitely need to define that) if this is done with our full attention. To be fair though a foreign policy based on gut instinct has been tried and didn’t work so well.

  • abdullah69

    Actually the British needed Afghanistan to A) Stop the Russians getting to India, and B) stop the Russians getting to the Indian Ocean. The fact that Afghanistan itself was a useless pile of rocks was totally irrelevant.

    The British decision to leave afghanistan once they realised the place was unconquerable and ungovernable by anyone was vindicated by the Soviet experience thirty years ago.

    The US has now been in Afghanistan longer than the Soviets, has spent a s**tload more money, and achieved precisely the same result.

    It is time the US took a long look at the folly of pursuing a nineteenth century military strategy in a twenty first century world. The countries that will shortly overtake the US are those that prioritise investment in education and technology over the military.

    Anyhow, what good was the biggest “defence” force the world has ever seen on 9/11?

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