Just Don’t Call It Pork (Swine Reforms?)

The Capitol Hill dual loyalty dilemma–national interest vs. provincial interest–is clearly displayed in this quote from Sen. Harry Reid, who as the top Democrat in the Senate is responsible for getting health reform to President Obama’s desk. “I make absolutely no apologies,” he says, “none – - for helping people in my state.”

The help in question is a provision in the health reform bill, inserted by Reid, that will make sure Nevada won’t face higher Medicaid costs, even though Texas, Vermont, California and 43 other states will. Bloomberg has the details:

The plan calls for “full federal funding” of Medicaid for new beneficiaries in only those states that had unemployment rates of at least 12 percent in August and whose Medicaid enrollment is below the national average. Only Nevada, Rhode Island, Michigan and Oregon meet that criteria. That prompted complaints from other lawmakers that their states would have to pay more.

As John McCain liked to say on the campaign trail, “That’s not change we can believe in.”

But wait, there’s more.

As the Bloomberg story notes, unions have secured from union-friendly Senators exemptions from the new tax on high-value health insurance plans. And Florida’s Bill Nelson has secured about $5 billion for people who currently receive Medicare Advantage, which is due to be severely cut back in the new bill. But Nelson’s provision is not earmarked for just Florida.

The measure doesn’t identify which states could get the $5 billion. The language is so confusing — those eligible include retirees in “counties where the MA benchmark amount in 2011 is equal to the legacy urban floor amount” — that even congressional aides said they aren’t sure.

Read the entire Bloomberg story here.

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  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    If your going to discuss fiscal responsiblity but not in my backyard, perhaps you’d care to address the Stimulus bill as well:
    . http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_10/020535.php
    .
    Not that your drawing attention to this particular example is inappropriate but when the old cliche’s about tax and spend are still flying it’s certainly approriate to remind folks that the Republican solution is “don’t tax but spend anyway…..”

  • gysgt213

    So still with the this is good for John McCain?

  • gysgt213

    Question. Are they paying more or just not getting full federal funding?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Of course the article makes clear as well, that the red state Senators would have a little more influence in the details of the legislation if they weren’t already Hell bent on scuttling whatever emerges anyway….

    Being the ‘party of no’ does carry costs……

  • deconstructiva

    If Reid really wants to help people in his state he could demand the public option – mighty handy choice in a state with unemployment and foreclosure woes – but I digress. But the real thanks, Michael, is for your tweet RT’ing Norah O’Donnell …verbatim… “Palin to do Oprah on Nov 16.” That made my day. I didn’t know Sarah was into other women, but hey, more power to her. Will they do it in front of the studio audience? Will Todd be allowed to watch? But now Sarah will need to reorient her political positions, yes? And not just take this lying down? And where is Sarah’s HC plan? Or any Republican’s for that matter?

  • jcapan

    As much as I’d like to see Reid and his hooker-crats voted out, I’d have to say the better tack would be to abolish the senate outright.

    James Madison:

    Should experience or public opinion require an equal & universal suffrage for each branch of the Govt., such as prevails generally in the U. S., a resource favorable to the rights of landed & other property, when its possessors become the minority, may be found in an enlargement of the election districts for one branch of the legislature, and an extension of its period of service. Large districts are manifestly favorable to the election of persons of general respectability, and of probable attachment to the rights of property, over competitors depending on the personal solicitations practicable on a contracted theatre. And although an ambitious candidate, of personal distinction, might occasionally recommend himself to popular choice by espousing a popular though unjust object, it might rarely happen to many districts at the same time. The tendency of a longer period of service would be, to render the body more stable in its policy, and more capable of stemming popular currents taking a wrong direction, till reason & justice could regain their ascendancy.

  • freeinpa

    What the article really states is that any pretense of a health care bill being budget neutral is gone.

    Regardless of what is in this bill and its costs, if it is flushed (no pun intended) through Congress Obama will sign it.

    You can add that to his ever growing list of lies to the American people

  • apollyon07

    God it just keeps getting worse and worse with this guy. Democrats, PLEASE either put up a credible primary challenger, or either: vote for the other guy, or stay home on this one. He’s bad for BOTH parties, and therefore, the nation as a whole.
    .
    And how ’bout the transparency pledge? 72-hour rule?

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Transparent? Why, it’s as clear as mud from where I sit!

  • http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com lawyermommy

    “The Capitol Hill dual loyalty dilemma–national interest vs. provincial interest–is clearly displayed in this quote from Sen. Harry Reid, who as the top Democrat in the Senate is responsible for getting health reform to President Obama’s desk. “I make absolutely no apologies,” he says, “none – - for helping people in my state.”

    Good for Reid. I wish our own Senators would adopt the same tack. Yes, we elected them to represent us at the National level and surely that should count for something, right?

    LM

    http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/

  • arartteacher

    I wish any of them would do some thing for us. It seems to me if you don’t have several billion dollars, and a couple of lobbyist working for ya, you can’t count on a senator to do anything to help you!

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Of course his plummeting approval numbers and ongoing legal problems in Nevada are merely coincidence and have absolutely nothng to do with
    his newest version of the bill.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Pork. It’s what’s for dinner.

  • Matt

    Such is the intricacies of government, not just Democratic-led government. Do w e really think Republican aren’t self-serving and arrogant? Yes, the GOP were saints of political virtue in their years in power…

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Far from saints. Just the lesser of the evils.

  • arartteacher

    what ever

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks for the excellent commentary, and congratulations again, Oregon JC.

  • arartteacher

    The Republicans were every bit as bad as anyone who is in office now. They did way to much damage to this country to go saying their the lesser of two evils.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Yep. And they call that reaching across the aisle. The farther left you reach, the farther you move from your principals.

  • arartteacher

    what do you mean by that

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    My party let me down. They became too much like yours. They went with the flow.

  • arartteacher

    My be your party found that their principals (like keep the rich rich and the poor poor, dont talk to them bomb them) to be what was bringing this country to its knees. And oh by the way i dont have a party but if i had to choose i know that it wouldnt be the republicans.

  • Paul-no not that one

    I saw the good news JC.
    .
    Congratulations to you and yours. I trust everyone concerned is healthy and happy.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Could you perhaps give me a little more to go on than just generalization? How did they go about keeping the rich rich and the poor poor? And if you were talking to the enemy, what exactly would you tell them that would make everything okay? Keep in mind that Islamic extremists want one thing and one thing only, and that is death to all non-muslims. Hell, they’ll even kill fellow muslims if it contributes to their “greater good”.

  • abdullah69

    This can only be correct in a spatial context – assuming you have “principals” to begin with, and that they do not also move further left with you.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Eloquently put, my dear abdullah, but alas I have no clue as to what you just said.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    I must be quite the rube.

  • jcapan

    Thanks guys (and others from the previous thread)! It’s a hell of a feeling, even for an old cynic like me. Everyone is fine: if life has a soundtrack at this pt. it’s “Ode to Joy”

  • sacredh

    jcapan: The soundtrack will soon be a song by Bachman Turner Overdrive. You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet.

  • sacredh

    Palin. The other white meat.

  • stuartzechman

    Oregon JC:

    Lovely Bride is asking about you…here she is:
    .
    What in particular makes you so happy about having the baby?
    How was is it for you as a man experiencing your wife giving birth?
    What are the most important things to know based on your experience about pregnancy, childbirth and being a new parent.

    And of course, congratulations!!! Wishing all the best to your wife and your baby.

    LB

  • anon76

    Congrats JC- My first popped out 7 weeks ago. On the down side, you won’t be getting much sleep, but on the up-side you’ll find your new schedule makes it much easier to post timely Swampland comments.

  • sacredh

    ^ You think you’re a rube? My wife and I went to Wal-Mart this afternoon and there was a guy sitting out front on the bench asleep with shorts on and his junk poking out. My wife wanted me to wake him up and tell him. The guy looked like he was a tall as me and probably out-weighed me by 50 pounds. She must have thought I was the biggest rube in the world. I declined. He was gone when we came out.

  • stuartzechman

    sacredh:
    .
    How have you never been to a coffee shop?
    .
    How is that a possibility?

  • sacredh

    SZ: I had never drank coffee or smoked a tobacco cigarette until 9 years ago (when I was 45). I’ve also never seen an episode of American Idol, Survivor or any other reality tv show. I’m at a loss to explain why I’ve never been in a coffee shop. It’s just something I’ve never done. I got my first degree in computer sciences back in the early 70′s but didn’t own one until well after the turn of the century. I only bought one then to shut my stepson up. Now we have five.

  • kbanginmotown

    Hey JC – Congratulations! I hope that the three of you are enjoying the bliss of the moment. Enjoy!
    .
    Your post brings back memories…and *poof*…now my oldest is a freshman in college. So, the song I recommend you listen to a couple of times a year is Harry Chapin’s “Cat’s in the Cradle”.
    .
    Time goes by…fast.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Trying to remember if I’ve ever met any one who started smoking at such a late age. You could have lived to be 100, now you’ll probably only make 99. I stopped by a starbucks stand at an airport once and bought an espresso. 6 bucks for an ounce of liquid in a 12 ounce cup. That’s as close as I’ve ever been to a coffee shop. Been drinking coffe all of my adult life though. Smoking too, sadly.

  • kbanginmotown

    But, is it still pink on the inside?

  • kbanginmotown

    SacredH: From some of your previous posts, it sounds like you’re a native Clevelander. Still local?
    .
    My dad and I swap the FreeP and PD on occasion to play the “Who’s Foreclosure Rate is Higher?” game.
    .
    Ahhh, fun times in the Rust Belt…

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Islamic extremists want one thing and one thing only, and that is death to all non-muslims.
    .
    All I know is that anyone who states with such conviction something that’s going on in a head not his own has already blown any iota of credibilty.
    .
    I could say something like “Babtist extremists want one thing and one thing only, to see every gay person in the world tarred and feathered” and have exactly the same force of truth….

  • sacredh

    kbang: I used to live in the Akron area. I now live in the hills 100 miles south and east (2 miles from the Ohio River). I love this area. Once the steel mills died the air cleared up and it’s beautiful here. Weirton Steel used to employ 12,000 people. Now they employ 700. I think they’ll go in a few more years. This place is rich in archeological sites. There were major massacres just 3 miles from where we live. I’ve found arrowheads in my yard.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Oh I see Paul. These aren’t bloodthirsty terrorists, they’re just fredom fighters. Isn’t that what the mighty O calls them?

  • sacredh

    I did smoke something else starting before my 12th birthday. The novelty wore off after a couple of tons. I quit a quarter of a century ago. I can’t function now without a cup of coffee and a couple of cigarettes in the morning.

  • abdullah69

    Understandably so, two thirds. Your prior posts indicate you are less than comfortable with English as your language of choice with which to communicate.

    How about this “Mama se, mama sa, mama makusa.” Did you get that OK?

  • abdullah69

    Maybe you should wait until after the coffee and cigarettes before you coment………..

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Ah those were the good ole days. It sucks to have to grow up doesn’t it? I’m the same with the coffee. Can’t remember my name in the morning till I’ve had at least a cup.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Isn’t that what the mighty O calls them?
    .
    Um no. Again, if your going to keep saying things that are patently false, you’re going to make it difficult to converse sanely. There are 1.6 BILLION Muslims in the world. The number of known terrorists on the other hand number in the thousands. Until of course you start redefining the rest of them.
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    And by the way, the phrase ‘freedom fighters’ was coined by St. Reagan.
    .
    Own it……

  • sacredh

    Those were the days, but I sure wish I had never got involved with that stuff to begin with. A colossal waste of time and money. Buying a house will wake a person up like nothing else. You either spend a small fortune paying someone else to maintain it, or else you learn how to do things yourself. Since that often involves power tools, partying suddenly doesn’t seem like such a smart idea anymore.

    Buy a rental property at the same time and partying just isn’t an option anymore. Falling through a closed window, landing outside, getting cut up all the way to hell and back, winding up in the emergency room and getting over 150 stitches is enough to make a guy rethink his priorities.

  • jcapan

    Wow, I’m honored to merit an appearance/?s from LB. SZ is about as highly regarded as a ghost in the machine can be.
    .
    Haven’t had a lot of time for coherent sorting of the data, but to answer your ?s
    .
    1. What in particular makes you so happy about having the baby?
    .
    じゃあ口で言えない (words can’t express…) She’s healthy and cute, and a 1/2 carbon replica of my own LB, who advocated for this against my resistance. Of course, she was instantly proven right–from the moment the nurse placed my daughter in my arms. Suffice it to say, the kaleidoscope shifts pretty radically.
    .
    I’d also add that somehow this makes the monotonous toil of life more palatable. I’m no longer working merely to buy things, travel etc. A purpose-driven (jesus-less) life? Of course, all of this is my own vague perspective at the moment. And for those who choose a diff. path, fair enough. But there seems an inherently selfless aspect to parental love–and thus more gratifying.
    .
    2. How was is it for you as a man experiencing your wife giving birth?
    .
    Un/fortunately, I could only witness the prelimary/albeit agonizing labor (24 hours) before the Dr. suggested a C-section. At which pt. I was ushered into the waiting room like my father’s generation where I paced and pulled my hair out. Needless to say, seeing the person you’d die for on a dime go through pain like that is no joyride. That said, as if any further evidence was necessary, women are immortal & men are, pardon the French, pussies.
    .
    3. What are the most important things to know based on your experience about pregnancy, childbirth and being a new parent?
    .
    Ignorance is bliss? Seriously, no license is necessary. So much of it is intuitive. And as everyone who’s part of parent-industrial-complex can attest, once you join this cult you’re incapable of seeing it as anything other than the best decision you ever made. My wife would be the better person to answer though, given that the first month will be spent at the hospital and her parent’s home (as is the custom in Japan). I’m like an grandfather who swoops in like an adoring dolt and then I return to work or home etc.
    .
    But thanks for the warm wishes.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Obviously you missed my distinction between Islamic extremists and terrorists. Or maybe you didn’t. Seems to me you’re just spoiling for a fight and I don’t have the energy for it at this late hour. As far as the Reagan comment,———–huh????? back away from the crackpipe, slowly….

  • abdullah69

    Islamic militants want the same as everyone else on this country, apart from the Czechs and the Poles, which is for the US military to stay the f&&k out of their neighbourhood.

    Maybe Obama should try it. Withdraw all US troops back into the continental US, and maintain an army appropriate for the defense of the lower 48 states alone. Keep the battle groups,submarines and the strategic air command for mixing it with the locals as appropriate. But not the army. The last successful land invasion was Okinawa and the world has moved on considerably since then.

    Healthcare paid for and the national debt eliminated in a trice.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Yeah I think that would jar me back into reality. I just got tired of being in a trance. Alcohol is what almost did me in. Several times. Took my last drink 19 yrs. ago and I swear I still feel like I’m paying the price at times.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    As far as the Reagan comment…
    .
    Apparently your knowlege Afghan history doesn’t extend far enough back to recall when we were in the business of arming ‘Islamic extremists’ against the Soviets. The phrase ‘freedom fighters’ was encountered pretty much daily in the news coverage of the time. How soon they forget………

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks
  • sacredh

    I still drink, but usually only Mudslides mixed with milk and frozen to make slushies with a kick before bedtime. Which happens to be just about now. My wife and I do split a bottle of wine every few weeks or so while watching a movie. I have a permanent prescription for some kick ass muscle relaxers (bless an old back injury) so heavy alcohol consumption just isn’t safe or practical.
    .
    Slightly OT, but I’m the only person in our district to ever protest a clean drug test. The drug I take is something they test for and when mine came back clean I raised hell because I felt the lab was ripping us off because they didn’t detect it. I’m pretty sure they didn’t even run the tests they were supposed to. They didn’t even have a form to protest a clean test.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Now I’ve heard it all sacred. On that note I think I’m gonna pack it on in.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    The term freedom fighters has been used over and over again in just about every war that was ever fought. Is there some major point you’re trying to make? Cuban freedom fighters also come to mind, you know, the ones dear ole JFK hung out for slaughter?

  • sacredh

    I’m right behind you. Just an aside…separate states, different houses. We talk. That’s it. I’m talking about sleep. I don’t think either of us swing that way.
    .
    You gutter minds disgust me.

  • pafro

    Sure is a lot less exciting than Tom DeLay running around the House floor after midnight with paper bags of tobacco industry cash.

  • stuartzechman

    Oregon JC:
    .
    Ack…She just went to sleep…she’s really tired from working.
    .
    I’ll have her read this tomorrow; thanks so very much for responding to her.

  • Cliff

    You’ve caught yourself a fine wingnut there, Mr. Dirks. What do you figure? A Glenn Beck watcher? A Limbaugh listener? A Red Stater?
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    He writes in complete sentences so I figure he ain’t a teabagger.

  • redraven937

    His point was that saying this:

    Oh I see Paul. These aren’t bloodthirsty terrorists, they’re just fredom fighters. Isn’t that what the mighty O calls them?

    …is profoundly ironic considering that Reagan, the cornerstone upon which contemporary Republican principles is built upon, was the one who actually called these same Islamic extremists “freedom fighters.” So your sad attempt at an insult actually makes you look ridiculously dumb.
    .
    The greater issue at hand is that some people are going from terrorists, whom by definition commit heinous crimes, to demonizing “Islamic extremists,” which by any real definition includes people who don’t actually commit any crimes. Which was PD’s point.

  • michaelfury

    How about “human-avian-swine” reforms?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/going-viral/

  • 53_3

    Has anyone pointed out that Al Queda is oh-fer this year and that right wing “Freedom Fighters” now lead them 11 – 0 in the body count on American soil, with the last two weeks ago?
    .
    Just asking…

  • 53_3

    Iran-Contra, where Ronald Reagan cut a deal with terrorists comes to mind here…

  • 53_3

    He put the words ‘gerry’ and ‘mander’ in gerrymander, too…

  • 53_3

    Iran-Contra, where Ronald Reagan cut a deal with freedom fighters comes to mind here…

  • 53_3

    See? I can do that, too!

  • 53_3

    A case in point about Al-Queda vs Right Wing extremists:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/21/terrorism.probe/index.html
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    Al Queda 0, RW Extremists, 11…

  • stuartzechman

    She read it, and there was a great deal of laughter and head-nodding (especially about the immorality of women), and wanted me to communicate her gratitude and appreciation to you.
    .
    Thank you so much for answering her questions, Oregon JC.

  • jcapan

    “Immorality”! LOL–your own inner Freud? Don’t drag me there.
    .
    Sounds like LB is doing some research, preparing a case? Hope nothing I’ve said advances an agenda you’re reluctant about, though, let’s face it, once their minds are made up, our causes are almost always lost.

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