In the Arena

No Peace, No Prize

There is a slight whiff of condescension attending the announcement that Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize. There is the sense that he has won simply by not being George W. Bush. Effete Europe is congratulating rowdy America for cleaning up its act and not bringing guns to the dinner table.

Well, I’m as relieved as anybody that the Bushian gunslingers have been given the gate and, as regular readers know, I’m a big fan of patient, rigorous diplomacy–and there’s a certain lovely irony to any prize that brings the Taliban and the neoconservative Commentary crowd together in high dudgeon–but let’s face it: this prize is premature to the point of ridiculousness. It continues a pattern that holds some peril for Obama: he is celebrated for who he is not, and for who he might potentially be, rather than for what he has actually done. If he doesn’t provide results that justify the award, this Nobel will prove a millstone come election time. (See pictures of Obama’s eight months of diplomacy.)

And so, how to handle this “triumph” becomes a strategic puzzle that requires serious thought. Two immediate thoughts occur: he can’t reject it, but accepting it can’t be about him. He can and should immediately say something like, “I don’t deserve this.” That’s a no brainer. The question is, what should he say after that? (See “Why Winning the Peace Prize Could Hurt Obama”)

Perhaps: “But the American people do.” For creating and sustaining a stable and civil democracy that is the envy of the world. And he should celebrate the essential American idea:  that the things we have in common as human beings are more important than the things that divide us. It doesn’t matter who you are, where you come from, whether you believe in God or not–this American principle, the belief in certain inalienable rights, should be the basis for international interactions as well. (See the world reaction to Obama winning the Nobel.)

This should be followed by the necessary caveats–the things that conservatives call “apologies” but are required for credibility–especially the idea that we haven’t always abided by our founding principles in dealing with the rest of the world.

But enough of the high-blown stuff: the Nobel needs to be an excuse for an action agenda. One idea, which Zbigniew Brzezinski has been touting, would be to announce the parameters for a Middle East peace settlement–and recruit the rest of the world to get behind it. This would not please those Israelis–and their American enablers–who want to hold onto lands that they gained by conquest, nor would it please those Palestinians harboring fantasies of regaining lands they left 60 years ago, but most people have a rough sense of what constitutes justice in this tortured patch of earth and Obama might use his Peace Prize to actually create some peace in the world’s most vexing place.

I’m sure there are other things he can and should do–starting with finding an appropriate place to donate the $1.4 million that comes with the award. I’d give it to Greg Mortenson or someone else who has a successful track record of building schools in difficult places.

In the end, this premature prize is a significant challenge for the President: Will Barack Obama use it to demonstrate that he actually has the courage, moral fortitude, intelligence and creativity that the award portends? The expectations bar has always been set impossibly high for Obama. This raises it. (See “Obama Wins a Premature Peace Prize”.)

UPDATE: Well, the President hit precisely the notes I predicted above in his brief remarks in the Rose Garden. I hope he gives some consideration to a more aggressive peace agenda, especially in the Middle East, in the weeks to come.

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  • Paul-no not that one

    I’m sure the president will give all your advice the attention it deserves.

  • incandenzah

    Oh, jeez. Premature? I don’t think so. But I understand why Joe Klein might say so now. Here’s Josh Marshall for the block:

    “[If] that seems like a meager accomplishment to many of the usual Washington types [like Joe Klein!] it’s a profound reflection of their own enablement of the Bush era and how compromised they are by it, how much they perpetuated the belief that it was ‘normal history’ rather than dark aberration.”

  • hellyeahgreg

    Great post. But you and the media have set such a high expectations for this president.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Perhaps you don’t think turning this country around after 40 years of a conservative juggernaut was a monumental feat. Perhaps from your liberal perspective you think defeating the most inevitable candidate to come down the pike since Ike with a message of hope that inspired a world not just an American generation was a piece of cake. And I suppose you think doing all of that in a country that repeatedly proves its incapability to get past its racial issues from the skip gates affair to the glen beck accusation and even persuaded you to advise him to stay clear of the racial morass. Yet in your world that was no big whup. Obviously the rest of the world doesn’t agree with you, they never thought that America would vote for a black president and that move into the so-called post racial America was at least as big of a civil rights move to black Americans in this generation as the king civil rights move did in his, where he got the prize as well. Of course, while that might have been what inspired his nomination so soon after taking office, his decision to go after total nuclear disarmament is just the latest awe inspiring act that clinched the decision.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    I imagine he is getting the award for the simple act of bringing a sense of calm, and rationality, back to international relations, in a relatively quick amount of time. It is not for brokering a peace deal in the ME, or bringing democracy to nations, who don’t seem interested in it. They are just happy there is less fear and antipathy, in the world.

    However, this is the sort of issue the right, and some in the media, will use to manufacture another round of outrage over. They will lash onto it, like a hungry dog on a bone.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    BTW-it’s not like we don’t all know what this is really about. The media is pissed got scooped! None of them got the story because they are so disinterested in the rest of the world they didn’t bother to try and find out. They spent so much time focused on the relatively meaningless olympic failure that it never occurred to any of them that this other story was out there. They did not have a chance to speculate on it so it must be shocking. Besides didn’t the SNL skit prove that he didn’t deserve it.

  • 53_3

    Joe:
    .
    If you were president, what could you do in 230 days.
    .
    Did you forget already that he did end the credit freeze at the beginning of his term. I might point out that the failure to end that freeze would have resulted in the collapse of the economy.
    .
    How quickly you forget!

  • 53_3

    Dee:
    .
    Working model for Obama and the media:
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    Black janitor in the 1950s.

  • slowp

    IMHO, today’s Nobel Peace prize went to BHO, but the Swedes were really giving it to the American voters, for taking the nuclear codes out of the hands of warmongering fool Republicans.

    It’s a reward richly deserved, if I don’t say so myself, and on my own behalf I’d like to thank the Academy.

  • 53_3

    And of course, Joe, let us not forget that the level of right wing hatred is a measure of his success!

  • conversets

    Give Joe a break. He’s just pissed that he hasn’t won the Literature Prize yet. You know (of course you do, he tells us all the time) he’s written like SIX BOOKS or something.

  • conversets

    And Joe, I think that “slight whiff of condescension” may just be your bowels acting up again.

  • Paul-no not that one

    It could be more.
    .
    JK has shown in the past a shall we say reluctance to take credit for all of his work.

  • kbanginmotown

    To what are we comparing President Obama’s Peace Prize?

    In 1919, President Wilson won the prize for his post-WWI peace efforts. This didn’t prevent WWII.

    In 1906, President Roosevelt won the prize for brokering a peace between Russia and Japan – two countries that would be our enemies in the coming century.

    Our children and their children will judge whether this prize was deserved. Until then, we as Americans can choose whether we want our President to be successful.

    http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-43042320091009

  • kbanginmotown

    Can “Anonymous” win the literature prize?

  • 53_3

    Joe gets his pants in a snit when he gets attacked by the Crazy Commentary Crewe and will write reams on the subject.
    .
    But what Joe forgets is that Obama is the target of the entire right wing crackhead mob. Guns at rallies, radio personalities calling for his death, insane Christian imams doing the same, and what does Obama do?
    .
    He, stays silent on the subject, a very classy approach.
    .
    Would that Joe cast the first stone. Hah!

  • pneogy

    “…and there’s a certain lovely irony to any prize that brings the Taliban and the neoconservative Commentary crowd together in high dudgeon…”

    Has the staff of The Weekly Standard broken into spontaneous wailing yet?

  • carbonware

    The point many seem to be missing is that his application he staff submitted went into the Nobel prize committee 12 days after taking office. he had not really done anything yet at that point. It used to be that people get achievement awards after they have proven they value of that achievement, not while in the honeymoon infatuation of the event. Time will tell the value of his presidency over decades not weeks or months. I have nothing against President Obama and hope for his success, if ultimately is means a success for America and the world and not just for him and his party. But I’ll reserve judgement until the proof is demonstrable which is what the Noble people did not do. This was without question an award for not being Bush but how much sweeter if it could have been an award for his lasting accomplishments. Carter’s has proven pointless, hopefully Obama will earn his, time will tell.

  • square1

    Sorry, but Klein is right. There are a lot of bad reasons for media carping: They got scooped, their complicity in abetting the Bush administration, their failure to appreciate the impact of Obama’s aspirational words on the rest of the world.

    But just because there are bad reasons to criticize the award doesn’t mean that there aren’t good ones.

    Personally, I’d prefer it if heads of state were ineligible for winning the prize. By and large, not nuking people or fighting illegitimate wars is part of their job description. Klein is right: Obama got this for simply not being George W. Bush. Whoopee!

    Are there really no Mandelas, Tutus, or Mother Theresas out there more deserving than Obama?

  • pete7630

    Obama may has changed “the tone” but his actions show that America only has one political party, the Rublicrat Party, and his actions prove that. He’s “promised” to do a lot of things but we’re still in Iraq and Afghanistan, Quantanamo is still operating, Wall Street remains unpunished and we still got no universal healthcare. He’s “done” nothing except change the tone and is that all you need to do to win the Nobel Prize ? Look at who’s won in the past and their accomplishments. Methinks the bar’s been lowered. It is embarassingly low. Oh … and since January 20th, how many people has America killed and how many Americans have been killed ? The doesn’t sound very “peace”ful to me.

  • biz5th

    Isn’t this another example of “it’s always good news for Republicans?”

    The President of the United States wins the Nobel Peace Prize, and somehow he’s the one with a political problem?

    I would think it might occur to some reporter or pundit to wonder whether this might further discredit the Republican approach to foreign policy. The last time I looked, they were still the party of Bush/Cheney.

  • Maximillian

    “I’m sure the president will give all your advice the attention it deserves.”

    Ah, Paul, I see you’ve adapted Obama’s elitist attitude about himself, too. Be sure to wash your feet before you watch his next speech.

  • bitterpill8

    Look at this from another place: the RW Bloviation Machine needs constant replenishment. Rush needs more after Joe Scarborough questioned his “testi…cular” fortitude this am.. So the Nobel Committee decided to get in on the act.

    But the real problem is that the Villagers did not see this coming. Halperin and Drudge are still recovering from the shock of not knowing…

  • homerhk

    I have said it before and I’ll say it again. Barack Obama greatest achievment and ironically his greatest curse has been to move the debate so far in his direction that achievments and aspirations that would once have been considered radical and revolutionary are now considered mainstream, politics as usual and no big shakes.

    I give you (a) the revitalised conversation in the world about nuclear disarmament, (b) a debate about healthcare that – regardless of the result it actually achieved – has moved the US forward immensely (think I’m wrong? where was the “public option” or indeed “single payer” in the national debate before he became President?), (c) an intangible respect for the ‘other’ (Cairo speech, No Ruz message etc.), (d) largest stimulus ever enacted getting criticism for not being large enough, (e) just simply putting balls in motion on so many issues that the media and assorted commentary have a massive case of whiplash, and (f) a manifestation to the world that the US public should not be judged by their election of W alone (that is what the oft-cited “it’s not about me” or “I have become a symbol” language is all about).

    To those who say that he is being given an award for rhetoric rather than achievments, let’s look at past winners, shall we? Shirin Ebadi, probably one of the most popular winners, fights against the Iranian regime with rhetoric – has she achieved a change in the Iranian regime? No. But has she achieved a change in attitude of people towards Iranians? Of course. Same with most of the other recipients of the award.

    I think this is a very welcome – if surprising – award and I’m sorry but the churlish commentary by the assorted media just shows the media to be the callow, shallow, selfish institutions they are.

  • sacredh

    I think Obama deserved the prize. We live in dark and troubled times. His election has brought a ray of hope to many of us. We had lost our standing and respect in the eyes of many nations in the world. He has made an effort to turn that around and provide leadership on a global scale that COULD lead to breakthroughs in many parts of the globe. He has earned the prize based solely on that. You can’t build a house unless you first lay the foundation.

  • http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com lawyermommy

    I am amazed that Obama was awarded this prize but happy too.

    I support him, and also his campaign was largely responsible for my complete withdrawal from the Republican Party and becoming a full Independent—voting my conscience alone.

    However, I am a little surprised by this award.

    I find the President very charming and likable as a person. I also admire the efforts he is making about changing our image abroad and can see how he has cleaned up the image of us as “Gun Totting Bullies”.
    But the Nobel Prize, wow!

    Maybe because of the sheer enormity of work that awaits him and the zest with which he is taking on mending the “New America” (the New America appears sick politically, economically and in so many ways that she can be compared to a crack head)– which has caused such admiration that the Nobel committee assume he will do so much more Internationally. And this expectation has prompted a recognition of his initial efforts in International Affairs.

    Nobel prize, wow!

    Well, he seems to be doing so much at home with such little recognition.
    The insult hurled by Joe Wilson, at least to me, is an index of the disrespect this President endures at home from so many. When Bush ran into Iraq and threw so many innocent lives away, I do not think the challenges he faced at home were laced with this glaring disregard.

    The Nobel Peace Prize is the most prestigious of awards and Obama has it premature or not, it is his own. It somehow alleviates the disrespect I think he has been shown here at home on so many levels. Too early or not, it is his. Hurray? :)

    Now, I have to sit back and watch the way Fox News and his other detractors will analyze this award–outside of throwing themselves down on the streets and weeping in the rain of accolades that will flow abroad to Obama :)
    Will it lead Palin to declare the Nobel committee a communist gang (hey, she has said worse) OR will Beck find someone on the committee who is a Van Jones type? Hilarious.

    As for Steele’s remarks, does anyone really expect him to say anything not reeking in envy and vitriol? :)

    I will be watching Fox today, their ire and confusion will be one for the record books.

    LM

    http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/

  • richinnj

    It’s a perfect example of what Woody Allen once said:

    “Ninety percent of life is just showing up.”

    Obama should donate the prize money to fund clinics that provide free health care to the uninsured.

  • sy2d

    PNNO:
    Pitch perfect!

  • grape_crush

    the Nobel needs to be an excuse for an action agenda.

    More media knee-jerk, Joe? I was hoping for more of a well-considered response from you.

    Posted on the prior thread…Why don’t we look at what has actually been done?

    - Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev agreed that their negotiators would work out a new limit on delivery vehicles for nukes and warhead limits as well.

    - Scrapped plans to build a missile defense shield in the Czech Republic and Poland that…poses less of a threat to a jittery Russia.

    - In-process closing of Guantanamo Bay prison facility.

    - In-process withdrawal of US troops from Iraq.

    - Opening talks with the likes of Iran, Syria, Cuba…

    While most of this incomplete list is still in-process – and a true peace will always be in-process – there’s one more point to consider:

    In June, the U.S. president held a commanding lead over other heads of government in a poll of people in 20 nations with 62% of the world’s population. An average of 61% of the respondents said they had confidence in Obama “to do the right thing regarding world affairs.” The next closest leaders trailed him by 21 points.

    In nine months the Obama administration is, by rejecting the belligerent Bush administration approach to foreign policy, restoring America in the eyes of the world as a force for good.

    (links in the prior thread)

  • kryptik1

    As far as the worries about whether this was about him ‘Not Being Bush’, tt’s probably that in large respects, but that kind of speaks volumes too about how Bush screwed the pooch far as our foreign relations went. Obama wanted to(and at least seems to be trying to) approach our foreign policy as an actual country, rather than a conqueror or bully, like many of our own allies seemed to view us under Bush. For the most powerful country on Earth to turn around like that at least rhetorically is probably a load off many of our allies’ backs, as well as the countries that are more neutral on us than anything.

    Remember, it’s as much a prospective award than one for achievement. Valid arguments could easily be made about why it was the wrong choice, depending on the other nominees, but I see where it comes from, even if you try and boil it down to ‘Because he’s not Bush’

  • http://digitalshowcase.biz alangrus

    Lets see. You perpetuate Dubya’s War ON Iraq, expand the war ON Afghanistan and that wins you the Nobel Peace Prize.

  • carotexas1

    Dee I agree, my thoughts as I have seen how the media reacted this morning. I hope they look back and feel ashamed of their reactions.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    And for a still wider perspective: “Mohamed Elbaradei, for example, said, ‘I cannot think of anyone today more deserving of this honor. In less than a year in office, he has transformed the way we look at ourselves and the world we live in and rekindled hope for a world at peace with itself.’ Mandela, Tutu, and Gorbachev, among others, also praised the announcement.”
    -
    Sure, maybe it doesn’t play great in Peoria, or certain other Villages. But the fact is, the world’s only superpower is on the side of the rule of law again. For those actually involved in the day-to-day work of making a better world, that’s a huge deal.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    It’s even better than when I won Man of the Year a few years back.

  • hellslittlestangel

    His predecessor was nicknamed (among other things) Commander Cuckoo Bananas, an appellation which could probably have been passed on to John McCain. Some people don’t realize just how big a deal being not-Bush is.

  • richinnj

    If Obama had already withdrawn all combat forces from Iraq, and continued Bush’s strategy in Afghanistan, he would be even less deserving of the NPP.

  • ohiolib

    I’m sorry, but why, exactly, does Obama deserve this prize? What, exactly, has he done so far to earn it? Was there just a complete lack of competition this time around? I like Obama, but I’m not sure what he’s done to earn this.

  • kryptik1

    And as much as it means something to us on the left side of the aisle, for a lot of other countries, after the international belligerence of the Bush era.

  • hellslittlestangel

    If I wanted to quibble, which I don’t, and if it weren’t a conflict of interest, which it is, and if I wanted to indulge in some divisive, partisan smack, which I do, I would say that the prize rightfully belongs to the people who voted for him.

  • richinnj

    It results from the audacity of hope.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    The Nobel Prize is not a partisan award. And the right has no reason to be so jealous because they have the same opportunity to promote political positions that value hope over fear. Of course, since for the most part, modern conservatism is fueled by fear of every freakin thing imaginable,
    .
    in reality you have to do a little more evolving before you’d have any real shot at winning. Nevertheless, the media’s water carrying of the GOP petulant reactions is shameful. My god how petty you little pencil pushers can be when you feel like you got left out of the decision making process. Of course, we should have expected it from a press that threatened to write negative stories if new media get more questions than old media in white house briefings. Too bad you don’t learn anything from all that media coverage of this president and can’t mimic just a tenth of his graciousness.

  • llulua

    While you all are patting yourselves on the back, the world is becoming a more dangerous place because our enemies and many allies perceive Obama as a weakling.

    Ronald Reagan said it best when referring to our adversaries: “We win, they lose.”

    Europe is heading the way it was just prior to WWII, it’s head in the sand and Obama fits right into their niche.

    BTW: To our enemies, diplomacy just means stall until they get what they want.

  • sacredh

    There will be no joy in Mudvillage tonight.

  • Art Pepper

    This development cannot make the Republicans hate Obama any more than they already do, but it just may turn the Beltway press corps permanently against him.

  • psrobinson

    Joe, you would be right if the prize were awarded for accomplishments. But you’re wrong; here’s the AP:

    • Myth: The prize is awarded to recognize efforts for peace, human rights and democracy only after they have proven successful.

    More often, the prize is awarded to encourage those who receive it to see the effort through, sometimes at critical moments.

  • bitterpill8

    Obama was suitably humble at his Presser; and this will only serve to enrage the nuttier elements on the Right.

    I believe him when he says he was surprised. Now watch the FauxNews gang move into action. The Indignation Express will work overtime today. What will Kraiuhammer, Kristol and Will say this week-end?

    Tough not to laugh.

  • krog1957

    I think you’re wrong, Joe. I think Obama deserved this even more than Greg Mortenson who I hope wins next year because:

    1) He shut down Bush’s missile shield in Poland, making peace with the Russians for the moment.
    2) He negotiated with the Russian president in July to reduce nuclear warheads and their delivery vehicles.
    3) He sent George Mitchell to the Middle East to negotiate with the Israelis and Palestinians.
    4) He’s shutting down the Iraq war.
    5) He’s talking to Iran.

    quite a bit of peace-making to accomplish in 9 months. I hope Afghanistan comes next.

  • callee

    The reason why many think this is premature is probably because they haven’t been following as closely what decisions Obama has made on international politics. Mohamed ElBaradai wholeheartedly supported this recognition. It’s not so much about what Obama has accomplished by now in terms of the number of treaties and agreements fulfilled, and it’s not about what he might do in the future, it’s rather about the attitude of change that he has furiously enacted since his first day in office and the change of attitude he’s brought with him in facing the middle east, Russia, China and basically all other countries. In order to realize this change, you’d probably have to be very familiar with how it was done at the age of the Bush regime. I understand your point though, I just thought I’d make mine.

  • sacredh

    I wonder if Obama getting the Peace Prize will result in the republicans declaring another war on him.

  • hellslittlestangel

    Amen.

  • callee

    I agree with you. He’s done a considerable amount of change, especially compared to what was before him.

  • lainegibson4

    Why ALL the hate? Is it because he’s a Black man?
    The committee voted for him and that’s that… get over it and let’s move on and try to learn to act like proud American’s instead of bad losers and haters. You want the President to fix the problems in the wink of the eye that took almost a decade to create. You bash him at every turn, and never seem to give him a chance. If you could do a better job at fixing the problems why didn’t you run for President? Give the man a chance and stop the Obama hating!

    You Go Mr. President, Congratulation!

    Laine in Lithonia

  • jackdavis1

    “Saturday Night Live” got it right.

  • amsanvel

    Not any President that ‘is not Bush’ would have inspired the change of attitude towards the US the way Barack Obama did. The relief was felt almost overnight. And the change was not only towards the US. The reigning belligerence somewhat gave way to some adjustments and a waiting period. Hopefully this prize will inspire him to seek the end of these senseless wars his predecessor started.

  • amsanvel

    Good points! Thanks!

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Don’t you think they are already there? What else needs to happen, they’ve already turned every right wing talking point into cable news headlines. They chomp at the bit every time they see an opportunity to encourage a race war. They have shown no integrity when it comes to exposing the sleaze ball tactics of corporate America and blame Obama for not creating a situation totally devoid of any temptation for them to unleash their worst instincts.
    .
    Art, they turned against him during the campaign when they repeatedly declared his debate performance a loss prematurely and the polls didn’t agree with them. Outside of David Corn of Mother Jones magazine who acknowledged the dismal track record of the punditry class and decided not to second guess this president, the village idiots have been calling the shots and have had it in for this president for some time now.
    .
    Last month he was doing too much than two weeks ago he wasn’t doing enough. Then it was he left health care up to Congress while he focused on the economy and now its he shouldn’t be focused on health care he should be focused solely on the economy. Last week its he’s been in the office for 9 months and has accomplished nothing (see SNL skit for proof says Mike Viera). Now its the Nobel prize what? he’s only been in 9 months its premature. But by this afternoon its back to not yet making gay rights a top priority, oops I’m wrong they are early they went there at 11:44 am.

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  • Art Pepper

    Today’s GOP: Lose the Olympics = good, win a Nobel = bad.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “Some people don’t realize just how big a deal being not-Bush is.”
    .
    I don’t think that was the reason for the Nobel.
    .
    I DO think that republicans are sure that was the reason which explains their -predictable- reaction.

  • callee

    Hint: Contrary to what the author says, Obama better not go to Oslo and talk about how America is the envy of the world because of its principles and democracy. While America comes stumbling in at around the fifteenth place in rankings, Sweden and Norway consistently have ranked as some of the world’s foremost democracies for many years. American magazine The Economist does the study, and Sweden’s been winning several times. The principles of death penalty, letting people without insurance die, and letting unemployed starve also are not envied, rather the opposite.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    I’m guessing the Limbaugh headline “The Ego has Landed” will be shelved and replaced by the Beck headline: “The Copenhagen Connection. When all else fails go with conspiracy — just making stuff up.

  • vivalarevolution73

    “Dee in Columbia” couldn’t be a better poster child for everything that’s wrong with the arrogant left. While Dee and the rest of her smug, self righteous and “enlightened” counterparts judge the rest of the world on their lack of evolution she does nothing more than display her own ignorance in bright shiny neon lights of foolishness. Dee, you’re nothing more than an mezmorized fence-sitter who wouldn’t know a value or have the guts to stand behind it if it sat in your lap and called you mama. But dont’ worry, you’re not alone your just one half of the problem. Democrats and the Republicans are shams my friends. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, than the general populous of America has gone mad. Mr. “Change” is nothing more than a bag of articulate hot air, hypnotizing his lemmings into a false sense of security and numbed euphoria all while he carefully and strategically creats his Czarmerica. Please, don’t misunderstand me, I appreciate a patient, diplomatic approach just as much as the next person, but Obama has done nothing more than not be Bush and the world is clamoring to pat him on the back with the Nobel Peace prize and shame all of the past winners in the process. Change is coming my friends, but as long as Democrat and Republican puppets are running things, that change is going to sneak into your room at night and snatch you out of your warm bed of apathy and blissfull ignorance and give you the rudest awakening you’ve ever known.

  • farzananoom

    President Obama deserves the Peace Prize by the virtue of his honesty, integrity, compassion and dedication to work toward global peace, not to mention his love for all. Congratulations, Mr. President and the First Lady, Michelle Obama who is is working behind the scenes to achieve this giant success. May God grant you success in all endeavors, including peace, health and prosperity as the universal ideal in this century.
    Love, peace and harmony,
    farzana

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    SNL is a joke — literally.

  • majorrick

    Hi Joe:
    We finally agree on something! Your comment “If he doesn’t provide results that justify the award, this Nobel will prove a millstone come election time.” And since Mr Obama has been long on promise and short on delivery this will hurt him.
    On the other hand, Sir, I must offer caution. Your comment that Americans see certain rights as “inalienable” (your word) is the antithesis of socialism. Under socialism it is undeniable that all rights stem from the state and the state can withdraw them. If they can be withdrawn, they are no longer inalienable.
    And finally, Sir, may I invite your attention to 1846-1847? The United States sent the Army into Mexico City and at bayonet point took the northern half of traditional Mexico and created California, Arizona, Texas and New Mexico. If the Israelis are going to be forced to relinquished land “gained by conquest” (your words), shouldn’t that standard be applied to all? Adios California!

    Your Servant, Sir.
    Rick

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  • peacellc

    I’m sorry, It doesn’t matter what good Obama has done up to this point, but the fact that he was nominated and considered for this award only days into his presidency, before ANYTHING was accomplished… it’s premature. There are many more people that are much more deserving of this award. I’m slightly ashamed that Obama was even nominated so soon. It almost comes off looking like his staff somehow pulled some strings and called some favors so that he could get some positive PR. Right now the country is so divided over his agenda it seems as though this couldn’t have come at a worse time. Now there wil only be more division among the American people. I honestly think that the Nobel Peace Prize commitee should have waited another year or two to award this to Obama. This sets an all-time low standard for recieving such an award.

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  • sacredh

    That pretty well sums up the mindset of the republican party today. They cheer bad news and bemoan good news. If the news doesn’t help their party, it couldn’t possibly be good for the country.
    .
    I haven’t read anything yet today, but I’m willing to bet that Obama getting the Peace Prize is going to stir up the “Obama is the Anti-Christ” nutters again.

  • http://whatchannelareyouwatching.com Stephen Fofanoff

    Wow. Can President Obama do anything right? Seriously. First of all, he didn’t DO ANYTHING to get the award. Someone else gave him the award. He didn’t ask for it. He didn’t lobby for it. He didn’t even put his name in for the nomination.

    An objective third-party examined more than 200 secret nominations for the award and decided that in the grand scheme of the world, President Obama most deserved it.

    Here’s a thought that perhaps Americans can think about: At some point, we should CELEBRATE our successes as a country. Our President just won the Nobel Peace Prize.

    There should be celebrations in the street when something as amazing as this happens.

    Instead, we go all “24 hour news cycle” on his ass and ruin what should be the pride of every American. When did we lose our love for our own country?

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    What are you some sort of misplaced militia groupie? Look you little Timothy McVeigh wannabe go dig a bunker in Wyoming take Beck with you and leave real politics to the adults.

  • http://jackellisvb.wordpress.com jackellisvb

    What a joke.

    Obama hasn’t even completed a full year in office, he has no major foreign policy or domestic policy accomplishments.

    And I am sure the Nobel Prize committee didn’t look in to this months after school murder and mayhem in the Altgeld Gardens Public Housing neighborhood in Chicago where Barack did all of his celebrated “community organizing”.

    Gangs of thugs from the Algeld Gardens neighborhood descended on another all Black African American school Fenger High School – attacked students with wooden planks, ending up with one student being murder, others hurt.

    What was Barack organizing these people to do? Certainly wasn’t anything related to international “peace”.

  • amsanvel

    Hello and peace!

    I will reply to you with a quote from Obama’s commencement speech in Notre Dame.

    “The question, then, is how do we work through these conflicts? Is it possible for us to join hands in common effort? As citizens of a vibrant and varied democracy, how do we engage in vigorous debate? How does each of us remain firm in our principles, and fight for what we consider right, without demonizing those with just as strongly held convictions on the other side?

    Each side will continue to make its case to the public with passion and conviction. But surely we can do so without reducing those with differing views to caricature.”

    Caricatures, ‘name callings’, demonizing… if we can do without them we will achieve progress towards peace

  • vivalarevolution73

    Oh Dee, silly litttle insults only prove your ignorance and unwillingness to open your self centered eyes and respond intelligently. Don’t worry, I still love you….let’s hug.

  • moiraesfate

    “Perhaps: “But the American people do.” For creating and sustaining a stable and civil democracy that is the envy of the world.”

    The unbelievable arrogance of that single sentence is just stunning.

    The reality is that, though America’s money is the envy of the world, nothing else is.

    I’m an immigrant to the United States and there is a few things I’d like to say. When you don’t live here, you are given the impression that freedom is all things to the people of this country. That everyone has money in their pocket and lives high on the hog.

    But when you come into the country from another country and start to live here, you begin to realize that there are some very large fundamental problems in this country that you don’t find elsewhere.

    For one thing, Americans pay extremely high taxes but get very little out of it for themselves. Way too much of these taxes go toward trying to kill other people in wars.

    The American people are not taken care of by their government as they should be.

    Education in this country is woefully inadequate compared to any other first world nation. Parents may be satisfied with their children’s education, but thats only because they don’t know any better.

    The health care system in this country SUCKS.

    This country doesn’t have nearly the freedom they like to claim, especially since the insane minority seem to get away with murder.

    This country is far too willing to start killing people, or give each other the ability to kill people (Allowing people to carry guns into parks, and bars… wth is wrong with this governments sanity and why should these crazy people be in charge)?

    And the worst thing of all, there is a certain party in this country that has managed to convince the citizens that all of these things are GOOD things.

    This country is not everything that Americans would like people to believe.

    And just so that you know… what Americans have created here is neither stable nor civil. If things continue the way they are, there is going to be a civil war. Its worse than its been in this country since the founding. People are screaming at each other in the streets, they cannot hold a peaceful conversation, and many of them insist that keeping others down is a good thing. There is a growing gap between the rich and the poor and the middle class is disappearing. And the current President is trying desperately to fix this while these insane people are doing everything they can to fight it and are actually managing to convince the uneducated people in this country that it is good that they do so.

    I’ve never seen so much fear mongering in my life.

    This country is not what people envy, it is what people fear. Do not mistake the two.

  • http://dmjakers.wordpress.com dmjakers

    Republicans continue to cheer for the terrorists and against America’s best interests by refusing to support the President.

  • grape_crush

    bwah!
    .
    Funny.

  • farzananoom

    This peom below is an appeal for peace to the suicide bombers who have forgotten their past–sixteenth century when Babur ruled Kabul…
    The King of Kabul

    Kabul, the bride of the Moghuls
    Ravished and descecrated
    By the breath of the bigots
    Stirpped naked of her silks and jewels
    Wandering desolate
    Into the heart of the pine-valleys
    The gardens blasted and scarred
    Cultivating black soot
    From the seeds of raids and bullets
    The flowers buried with the dead
    The lost bride wailing alone
    Kneeling beside the tomb of Babur
    Sricken and bereft of hope
    Come back, Padishah
    The song and feasing in your palaces
    And the festive dance of color in your gardens
    Awaits your return
    Reclaim your Jerusalem, King-Kalendar
    Console your bride of youth
    Scorched and abandoned
    By the lamps of zeal and tyranny
    Reviled by Taliban
    Console her heart with couplets divine
    From the dust of memories
    Yes, come back
    Heed the pleas of your bride

  • peacellc

    Why did you come here? Why not live somewhere else? America has it’s problems yes, but I have lived in many countries around the world and nowhere will you find the freedoms and the opportunities that are found here, despite all the injustices and desparities. If you are not happy in this country feel free to go somewhere else, I have many times before… but I still find that the USA affords freedom and opportunity found nowhere, which is why I’m here now.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    What Stephanie said!
    .
    These people are just ridiculous, they just finished celebrating America’s lost of the Olympics because it was a cheap shot at Obama. And a few months ago applauded the University of Arizona’s decision that the first African American President, who defeated the most inevitable candidate ever, hadn’t done enough in politics yet to merit acknowledgement from the honorary degree department. Thank God for Norway, since we are clearly not ready to give credit where credit is due. It’s just pure pettiness on the part of the American right wing and the media that carries their water. The most incredible part is the media is now using Obama’s graciousness against him — justifying their premature, knee jerk response to not being part of the story by saying “see even the president doesn’t think he deserved it” As if anyone would accept the prize by saying yeah thanks I know this was coming my way how could it not I’m the bomb.

  • howie1

    really unreal how most of the naysayers to this award seem to be really disgusted far left spectrum folks . they seem to be more virulent then their hated republican crowd. other then science and occasionally a literature award the nobels haven’t really meant much on the world stage lately. sure hope this award doesn’t box in our president and prevent him from having the balance necessary to operate the tangled web of the world stage.

  • jimenj

    layermommy,

    As a matter of fact, NPP committee is composed of left leaning liberals in a socialist country.

    As per Bush’s careless throwing of “so many innocent lives away”, according to statistics, during the 90′s, 1.5M Iraqis died due to the embargo enforced by Clinton and Co. The Iraq war, which led to the removal of the embargo and the tyranny of the Husseins has cost as many as 300K (the actual Iraq government estimates are lower). As harsh as it may sound, that is progress.

    Naturally, liberals reward intentions above results. As we are now accustomed, the pain wrought by misguided feel-good liberal policies comes well after their author’s departure from the stage.

    Bush empowered 50M people by removing the chains of oppression while Obama bends over to tyrants as a typical beta male. Iraqis and Afghans now have their burgeoning free and fair elections. When there are appearances of impropriety they can be raised and addressed. They participate in their elections in larger percentages that here in the US. They have had repeated and successful transitions of parliaments.

    I don’t know if you noticed that one of the Nobel laureate candidates was a afghan dissident woman; that right there is the legacy of Bush. In Afghanistan, a woman now can be a dissident and still be able to keep her head over her neck and be the object of world recognition.

  • moiraesfate

    peacellc, its called “an American husband that I love more than anything else in the world”. Not everyone comes to this country seeking “freedom” or “money”. Sometimes its just “love”. I honestly miss Canada dearly, but I’m here for him. Even he knows that if he wasn’t here, I’d go back home in a heartbeat.

  • jonahsdive

    The Nobel is a Joke. BHO has done nothing. “Reach out to Islam” ? Bush made the same speeches (he said Islam is a religion of peace, USA is not your enemy, we want to help world security), he’s just not black, or Muslim, or even a socialist like the Nobel committee incidentally is.

    The rest of the world is having a good laugh, I know I am. Let’s give the prize to Michelle next for her speech to the Olympic committee.

  • ohiolib

    1) He shut down Bush’s missile shield in Poland, making peace with the Russians for the moment.
    2) He negotiated with the Russian president in July to reduce nuclear warheads and their delivery vehicles.
    3) He sent George Mitchell to the Middle East to negotiate with the Israelis and Palestinians.
    4) He’s shutting down the Iraq war.
    5) He’s talking to Iran
    -
    Of those, I would say that only 2 and 5 are significant. The missile shield was a bad idea from the get-go. ME peace has been in negotiations for how long, exactly? and how much progress has been made? ’nuff said. If Obama actually made ME peace, that would count, but until something significant happens, it’s just effort. As for the Iraq war, shifting from combat to maintainence counts for something, but it’s not Nobel-worthy. It’s not a bad list for 9 months in office, but I personally doubt that obama was the most worthy recipient. While i understand the prize is sometimes awarded for effort, I would also like to know who else was in the running.

  • jacklynd

    Americans should be dancing in the street. At a time when our influence and power seem to be diminishing, our President is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for envisioning the world a better place.

    Norwegian Nobel Committee cited the president’s creation of a “new climate in international politics” and his work on nuclear disarmament.

    “A new climate in international politics” is a phenomenal change for the world. Instead of continuing in the vein of “no, we can’t, no we shouldn’t, no way I’m going to do anything the other side wants, not possible” we should be embracing hope and goodwill. Simple realy.

    Stop being so critical and pessimistic. Rejoice in the award for our nation.

  • grape_crush

    What a difference a week makes!

    Last week:

    It may have only been the Olympics but President Obama’s high-profile failure to win the games for Chicago has raised serious questions about his perceived international star power.

    Now critics are asking: If Obama can’t sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions from Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies to overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East?

    And this week:

    [GOP chairman Michael] Steele…said he thought it was “unfortunate that the president’s star power has outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements working towards peace and human rights.”

    And that’s just weak.

  • jacklynd

    Bush did say those things but the differnce is that no one believed him.

  • rfa001

    What a way to demean the Nobel Prize. Giving it to someone whose accomplishments are no where to be seen. Let’s look at his accomplishments.
    Gave away billions to AIG also without pre-conditions.
    Expanded the bailouts.
    Doubled our national debt.
    Accepted without comment that five of his cabinet members cheated on their taxes and two other nominees withdrew after they couldn’t take the heat.
    Appointed a Homeland Security Chief who identified military veterans and abortion opponents as “dangers to the nation.”
    Circled the globe to publicly apologize for America’s world leadership.
    Low altitude photo shoot of Air Force One over New York City that frightened thousands of New Yorkers.
    Nationalized General Motors and Chrysler while turning
    shareholder control over to the unions and freezing out retired investors who owned their bonds. Committed unlimited taxpayer billions in the process.
    Announced nationalized health care “reform” that will strip seniors of their Medicare, cut pay of physicians, increase taxes yet another $1 trillion, and put everyone on rationed care with government bureaucrats deciding who gets care and who doesn’t.

    I’m impressed aren’t you ??

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  • jacklynd

    Why not expand your thinking a little bit and consider what the award really means? Our country was just recognized for creating a climate of conciliation in the world.

    Is it so difficult to drop the negativity and pessism for just 5 minutes and view yourself as an American rather than a party member?

    It is an honor and it will help us as a nation to keep our place as the leader of the world and not just our country. Don’t you thnk that has some merit?

  • sacredh

    Has Beck cried yet? Has Rush had to send out his housekeeper for another 55 gallon drum of viagra so that he can get his indignation up? The blood pressure pills are going to get a workout today. I’d hate to be a lost puppy in front of RNC headquarters today. They’re going to look like footballs.

  • peacellc

    I can understand why you love it there. Canada is one of the most beautiful and best managed countries in the world. Sorry if my comment came off brash. I greatly admire Canada and believe Stephen Harper has been very commendable as prime minister.

  • jacklynd

    Your negativity is boring, repetitive and habitual. Think about what an honor this is for our country. Think about why it was given. It is about hope and more importantly it is about the the desire for hope and goodwill across the world.

    .

  • k1utz

    Thank You! 12 days in and they award him w/ this honor? This attitude that he’s not “Bush” doesn’t excuse his military stall tactics (which if you would think a moment, leaves our people in harms way) nor his push to move government into every aspect of our lives. Our children will not be so pleased when he’s finished.

  • jacklynd

    Americans should be dancing in the street. At a time when our influence and power seem to be diminishing, our President is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for envisioning the world a better place.

    Norwegian Nobel Committee cited the president’s creation of a “new climate in international politics” and his work on nuclear disarmament.

    “A new climate in international politics” is a phenomenal change for the world. Instead of continuing in the vein of “no, we can’t, no we shouldn’t, no way I’m going to do anything the other side wants, not possible” we should be embracing hope and goodwill. Simple realy.

    Stop being so critical and pessimistic. Rejoice in the award for our nation.

  • moiraesfate

    peacellc, please excuse me a bit. I’ve been gone nearly two years and I’m horribly homesick. We’re planning on going for a visit in the spring.

    I’ve become disillusioned with the U.S. since moving here and seeing what the health care is like, how the people get treated by the government, and the extremist right (who seem to have far too power).

    Don’t worry about what you said. You aren’t the first person who has said it to me. Though I do get defensive when people say it.

    Please don’t think I hate this country, because I don’t. I just hate seeing how people get treated here, and how so many of the people in the country are absolutely convinced that being selfish, and not careing about anyone else, is a good thing.

  • rfa001

    Last I heard the Prize was not awarded to America. It was awarded to man with very little to deserve the prize. Or maybe I have it wrong.
    Remember the phrase = ” It is the economy, stupid” ? Why don’t we worry about this country and our stature in our borders and the hope and accolades will follow from the rest of the world.

  • moiraesfate

    Always nice and helpful when someone focuses only on the bad or the imagined bad rather than the good and fact.

    This country, heck the whole world, needs hope. It doesn’t need more war, hate, fear, and anger.

    President Obama gives hope and inspiration. Something that has been sorely lacking for a very long time. That alone is enough when so much bad is happening.

  • edsme

    I’m confused…not partisan. But what about this “conservative juggernaut” turnaround? BTW – turnaround??? – you really think so? So if it’s not partisan, it must be racial?

  • dontodd0

    Hey, I woke up this morning in a good mood. I didn’t shoot a gun today, I didn’t start a war. I hoped I would have ham for lunch (and I did)… prophetic!! I even gave a homeless guy 2 dollars and an energy bar on my way in to work…. Maybe i can get one of those Nobel Prizes too!!

    i don’t care where you stand or who you voted for, this is a plain and simple farce, and it is an insult to all of those who truly deserved the award. It is a sign of what the Obama policy is based on: something for nothing!

    This is a beautiful example of welfare at its best. “Today i got out of bed, did nothing other than what I am expected (and paid) to do, nothing, nothing more… and I was rewarded handsomely for my efforts”

    How better to perpetuate the ideal that everyone is a winner… it all started when we started giving out trophys to everyone who plays, not just the winners. We have created a society (global) where mediocrity is seen as something to achieve, What could I have achieved in 200 days as president? I don’t know, but I CERTAINLY would not accept an award just for showing up!!!!!

  • alwayslookingforthetruth

    Why wait for Beck to find someone on the committee who is a Van Jones type or for Palin to declare the Nobel committee a communist gang? From the AP article “President Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize”:
    Aagot Valle, a lawmaker for the SOCIALIST LEFT party who joined the committee this year, said she hoped the selection would be viewed as “support and commitment for Obama.” Then, “And I hope it will be an inspiration for all those that work with nuclear disarmament and DISARMAMENT.” (emphasis mine) Later in the article:
    Unlike the other Nobel prizes, which are awarded by Swedish institutions, the peace prize is given out by a five-member committee elected by the Norwegian Parliament. Like the parliament, THE COMMITTEE HAS A LEFTIST SLANT, with three members elected by left-of-center parties. Jagland said the decision to honor Obama was UNANIMOUS. (Two of them rolled over, apparently)

  • peacellc

    Amen.

  • goldmon3

    It is nice to see that the world appreciates President Barak Obama, especially because so many US citizens are so disrespectful. Part of that, I know, is how low the office of the US Presidency sunk in the last years. Nevertheless, I applaud President Obama, the 3rd sitting US President to receive the award, for bringing more positive attention to the US from abroad, for all of his work prior to becoming president (his senate and congressional records are phenomenal), for his steadfast decency, his above-board and awesome campaign and most of all for his work on behalf of the people of the USA–yes, he is a President who works in the national interest instead of some special interest. As for the wars, he inherited them!!!

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  • http://monicajclayattyatlaw.wordpress.com monicajc

    So many readers have already nailed it on the head, that I hesitate to add my thoughts. However, I must say when are you guys going to get it. The more you bash this man and engage in petty nonsense the more the rest of the world and the American people see it for what it is – blatant unadulterated racism. Europe is congratulating America on its choice of leader and we in this country are so ignorant and pyschologically sick (what is can racism be – an irrational fear and hatred of someone based on their skin color) that instead of graciously accepting the award we rush to bash our own and ourselves. This is the first time that I have heard so many people question the choice for a Nobel Prize winner. I have a suggestion – stop and ask yourself why do you feel so adamant about this particular choice – what is it about this man that drives you to attack everything that he tries to do? And what was it about Bush that allowed you to remain silent?

  • llulua

    FACT CHECK:

    Well as you continue to pat yourselves on the back, the Nobel committee voted on the prize back in early February of this year. Obama was hardly in office and had accomplished nothing.

    Mr. Jagland of the Prize Committee stated:

    “We are not awarding the prize for what may happen in the future, but for what he has done in the previous year,” Mr. Jagland said. “We would hope this will enhance what he is trying to do.”

    Yep, Obama fits the “head in the sand” European’s view of America bad and let’s ignore the imminent danger at our doorstep.

    Weakness will beget stupid human tricks on the part of Islamic extremists and terrorists. I fear we can expect WWIII by 2013.

    Craig Shirley said on POLITICO’s The Arena:

    “Utterly ridiculous. The credibility of the Nobel Peace Prize has been dwindling downward for years and now it has hit rock bottom.. . . Reagan won the Cold War, freed millions, yet was never awarded the Nobel.

  • http://teacherreaderwriter.wordpress.com/ Shakespeare in GA

    “Carter’s has proven pointless”? Do you mean the same former president whose organization has led the fight to eradicate various diseases in the Third World and helped to monitor international elections? Pointless? Really?

  • edsme

    53_3 et al.
    stand by for the Economics Prize… Obama did SAVE the US (probably world) economy… another kool 10M SEK will do wonders too!

  • grape_crush

    ..it is an insult to all of those who truly deserved the award..
    .
    Who are these people? Do they feel insulted?

  • jacklynd

    Norwegian Nobel Committee cited the president’s creation of a “new climate in international politics” and his work on nuclear disarmament.

    President Obama is receiving congratulations from around the world.

    Check out newspapers around the world: Pravda, New York Times, London Times, Irish Times, Sydney Morning Herald.

  • stuartzechman

    …And from the inane pages of the War Is Peace Ministry http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/white-house/obama-keeps-his-eye-on-the-pri.html:

    On the domestic front, Obama’s new image as a Nobel Peace Prize winner will most directly affect the ongoing debate over troop levels in Afghanistan.
    .
    The issue has, to date, badly divided Obama’s own party as well as the American public. In a Pew poll conducted late last month, 50 percent favored keeping U.S. troops in the country while 43 percent voiced support for removing all troops. Obama has not made any formal decision on next steps in the country but reports suggest that he will not reduce the number of U.S. troops, a decision that will not please many in the liberal wing of his party.
    .
    Winning the Nobel Prize will allow Obama to go to his divided Democratic caucus and make the case far more forcefully that the time is now to stay united behind him on Afghanistan. It isn’t a silver bullet solution as many liberal members have strongly held beliefs on the issue that aren’t likely to change simply because Obama is a Nobel Prize winner, but for many who are on the fence, the prize may be just the thing that pushes them onto Obama’s side.

    Winning the Nobel Peace Prize will enable Obama to more persuasively make the case that there should be unanimity of Democratic support for the ongoing war in US-occupied foreign lands.
    .
    Neat trick, huh?
    .
    Our discourse is so stupid.

  • hpmcfee

    A LITTLE premature???!! Boy is that ever an understatement. Correct me if Im wrong here, but Its always been my understanding that the recipient of the NPP actually had to have participated in commandeering a state of peace, or at least instigating peaceful communications.
    Obviously, based on BO’s peacemaking history, one doesnt actually have to do anything like that at all to win the prize. As a mother and regular peacemaker of 3 school age children, I would have been a better choice for the prize. The voting panel for the NNP must be idiots.

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  • http://scarlet888.wordpress.com scarlet888

    You are such a muckraker, in that you are definitely a part of the problem in America; not part of the solution. The negativity that you Republicans spew on a daily basis is tantamount to the degree of hate and vitriol that you have for this man; President Obama, who, on the face of it, wants to be proactive regarding the issues/problems faced here at home and around the globe. The heinous jealousy and envy that you Republicans continue to demonstrate measures the amount of corruption that occurs each and every time a Republican reaches the highest levels of government. If you want a historical perspective we can start with pre-founding fathers and move forward to the criminal George W. Bush; who plundered the treasury; manipulated the media in two illegal wars; created mercenary corrupt armies that killed Iraq civilians for sport just like the brutal barbaric killers of American history that killed all the buffalo for sport and robbed the indigenous people of their land before wholesale genociding them…remember that???; Halliburton scandal, Enron scandal, AIG scandal; Valerie Plame scandal; yellow cake scandal; 9/11 scandal (inside job); treasury surplus before George W. …trillions in debt after he leaves office scandal; not a peep from the 109th Congress no matter what that mad hatter did…remember that?
    Bush; massive debt/bank/wall street bail out scandals; home mortgage and homeland security scandal (sounds so Hitlerian); patriot act scandal; spying on American citizens scandal; entry of illegal aliens by the millions into the country under George W. Bush scandal; the climate of red state confederacy hate – a overt return under GWB; his illegal selection to the presidency by a stacked Supreme Court full of right-wing sycophants scandal;…should I go on? To hand over this type of scenario to a new President -then attempt to block, ridicule; make suggestions/provide ridiculous off the wall/full of hateful opinions/lies about what he should do and what he hasn’t done is indicative of the hateful, angry, murderous nature of people like you and the so-called white chimps that think they are superior in intellect and ability. President Obama is conveying day after day that he is a zillion light years away from and infinitely more intelligent than the mutant strain of death worshiping, eugenically motivated, undead creatures such as yourself and the majority of the Tea-bagged Republican Party. Honestly, you and your kind are the scourge of the earth…where haven’t you gone and left a footprint of death and destruction, which was the mantra of George W. Bush and the running dogs who follow his/his father/his father’s father/ (Preston Bush/back to supporting the Nazis…when did jews become white people? How can a semite be white? That is what got you in trouble with Hitler…yet this is history repeating itself all over again. President Obama deserves the Peace Medal on the face of the fact that he is doing what he possibly can to bring stability and peace to a world inhabited by creatures who live on death, murder, destruction, greed, hate, and ignorance. Do you or any of your kind deserve a Peace Medal? I think not!!!

  • grape_crush

    …the Nobel committee voted on the prize back in early February of this year.
    .
    Pushing this piece of bullsh!t makes anything you have to say afterward as just more bullsh!t. From the [Nobel Prize] site:

    October – Nobel Laureates are chosen. At the beginning of October, the Nobel Committee chooses the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates through a majority vote. The decision is final and without appeal. The names of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates are then announced.

    It’s funny reading all the wingnutty reactions to this, ‘tho it shouldn’t be a suprise, considering that the first reactions to loss and grief is denial and anger…

  • xxception

    Ummmm, if the award was for bringing good attention on the USA, wouldn’t Angelina Jolie have been a better choice?

  • woinshet

    Hey, leave the president to do his job, if Americans/ Republican/ couldnt recogonize his effort they are jelous. too bad…the world understan his goal and achievement. shame, you cant even support your own president in the face of the world…this is low. What do people want him to do in this short time…he is doing everything he can to clean-up the MESS, that George Bush left him. Give him a credit to go behined a messy president and take all this messy economy, messy war and messy administration. It takes a strong person to do that, and that is what he is delivering…just shut up and enjoy the ride with him…he is getting America back on track where it should be…loved and respected. I am sick of these loosers…shame on you

  • xxception

    The US economy is in pretty much the same state many economists said it would be in if Obama had done nothing. If that is the case, how could he have saved the economy? Your hero worship is outrageous.

  • xxception

    Did you feel the same way about the “negativity” your fellow Dems heaped on Bush via MoveOn, Code Pink, Keith Olbermann, et al…? Disagreeing with someone is NOT negativity. It IS having a different view and different idea about how to deal with it. Hypocrite.

  • xxception

    Shame on you for your hero worship. Look at the facts and don’t just spout nonsense about what he has accomplished when it reality it is very little, substantially. Did you tell the opposition to shut up in the Bush years? Of course you didn’t. You agree with them, so you think they can yell and go into hysteronics any time they choose to. Your opposition has the SAME right. You libs amaze me with how quickly you want to shut somebody down simply because they don’t buy YOUR world view. How arrogant and totally intollerant of you.

  • xxception

    OMG, did scarlett888 really say 9/11 was an inside job? Lose touch with reality much?

  • xxception

    …yet this is history repeating itself all over again. President Obama deserves the Peace Medal on the face of the fact that he is doing what he possibly can to bring stability and peace to a world inhabited by creatures who live on death, murder, destruction, greed, hate, and ignorance. Do you or any of your kind deserve a Peace Medal? I think not!!!

    Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/10/09/no-peace-no-prize/comment-page-3/#comment-101824#ixzz0TSk4WEPV

    Ummmm, I’ve personally done everything I can to “bring stability and peace to a world inhabited by creatures who live on death murder, destruction, greed, hate, and ignorance.” When do I get my Nobel Peace Prize?

  • http://gatsby1.wordpress.com gatsby1

    So, according to Klein’s reasoning, the Nobel committee would have had to wait until the apartheid system was dismantled in South Africa, before granting the Nobel Peace Prize to Desmond Tutu? Tutu received the prize for his efforts towards dismantling apartheid. Obama received the price for his efforts towards world peace.

    Klein can really be insufferable.

  • grape_crush

    I’ve personally done everything I can to “bring stability and peace to a world…When do I get my Nobel Peace Prize?
    .
    What have you done, exactly? Was it as much as the President? Or even this guy?

  • secunda14

    What a mistake this is. I understand that the Nobel Comittee thought that they were helping him by awarding him for his inititatives but all this does is make people shake their heads and ask what he has accomplished. Especially when one thinks about what he has really accomplished. So far all this man has demonstrated are lofty words delivered with flourishing rhetoric.

    We’ll all be waiting now for him to bring about peace in the Mid-east, completely get out of Iraq, completely disengage from Afghanistan, eradicate nuclear weapons from the earth, prevent the next genocide, convince the Muslim world that we mean them no harm, convince the western world Islam means us no harm, Human rights in China, love between Blacks and whites, and the list will go on and on…….

  • 4thehellofit

    . All the news comments seem to be concerning the Presidents non achievements sense becoming President. How strange it is that a lot of people seem to forget that a MAN was elected and not a magician.Mr Obama never
    claimed to be anyone other than who he is, a man on a mission to try and redeem our country, and raise it from the mud of its past.People are so selfish and self-serving, and without patience. I imagine the job is pressure laden at best, and more so without the support of the people he took an oath to serve. Some of us want what we want, and we want it noww, never realizing that all things take time. I wander why all those with the answers to all the challenges our President faces, did not run for the job themselves. I guess it is easier to criticise from the couch, than to get on the field. A prize for lifting the hopes of the world, and making an effort to bring us together in peace?…….I can see it.

  • edsme

    History repeating itself???

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/sns-pod-1934-cartoon-pic,0,7114709.photo

    Is BHO driving or has he just jumped on the wagon? Or was he just PUT on the wagon?

    Tea-baggers??? Glad we had ‘em – glad we have ‘em.

  • http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/10/09/eyes-on-the-prize/ Collide-a-scape » Blog Archive » Collide-a-scape >> Eyes on the Prize

    [...] all sides in several Friday posts. Of those responses, I found myself nodding in agreement most to Joe Klein and George [...]

  • vivalarevolution73

    monicajc,

    Are you kidding me? You want to talk about a tired card…you’re the reason racism still exists. Everytime someone disagrees with you or someone who happens to be black, you and all of your “love to be victim” friends pull the race card. Why can’t people just agree to disagree without you trying to hide your inability to respond intelligently behind the race? It’s a tired and cowardly response. Like it or not, people just simply disagree philisophically, and that’s ok. It’s time for you to grow up. It has nothing to do with race, but as long as simple minded people like yourself go “there”, race will always be an issue. Ironic.

  • gotheca

    Every time a Democratic President does anything—much less wins anything—the Republicans don’t like, we hear, “That’s going to hurt them in the next election.” Why didn’t we hear that about invading Iraq? “That’s sure going to hurt Bush in the next election!” And why didn’t it happen?

    Because, “That’s going to hurt them in the next election,” is empty propaganda. Please stop saying it.

    Obama deserves the Peace Prize for exactly what the Nobel Committee cites: sincere, proactive cooperation with other world leaders on the heels of eight years of Bush’s dangerously idiotic cowboy posturing, along with a steadfast commitment to negotiation and unity over bullying and division. Obama is leading the entire world into a more peaceful future as the President of this country.

    It is an extraordinary time to be alive, and it is an extraordinary thing to be an American under Obama’s leadership.

    It’s too bad the man can’t cure all the ills of the world at once. He has already made history for this country with his commitment toward that goal. Maybe the rest of us could be proud of him, proud of our new President winning such an honor on our behalf, and try following his example, now, so someday we could all accomplish that goal together.

    Pre-emptive peace? What a concept!

    Victoria Mixon

  • thecormac

    There is a whiff of condescension here, but it comes from Joe Klein and many of his fellow pundits. “Oh, the poor, woolly headed Nobel committee – they were so star-struck, isn’t it cute…”

    The committee was very clear about its criteria: “The question we have to ask is who has done the most in the previous year to enhance peace in the world,” Said the committee chair, adding rhetorically. “And who has done more than Barack Obama?”

    They were also very clear that he was NOT being: “celebrated for who he is not, and for who he might potentially be, rather than for what he has actually done.” Indeed Nobel Chair Jagland was explicit: “We are not awarding the prize for what may happen in the future, but for what he has done in the previous year.”

    I understand that this come at an awkward political moment for Obama, and that Americans are focused on the agenda in process and not the change already achieved, but that was not the committee’s mandate.

    Maybe Joe and the American pundit class should grant that the Nobel committee has a different perspective on America’s impact in the world than US columnists OR voters and reflect on whether we can learn from them – rather than just dismissing them.

  • woinshet

    for people who now only to destroy, this means nothing, I dont think you know, what it feels to live in the other part of the world, you have no clue nor idea to be a part of provocked war…just shut-up, you know nothing but to be fed in spoon…the world peace may not mean anything to you fool…you got to be there to experience and the desaster that with the Bush war…the son nor the Father caused…world will never forget or forgive them…..you go on running your mouth…but gess what…OBAMA WINS THE NOBEL PRIZE…Dooomy that is the message the world got this morning…HAHA….Get on the Bus and enjoy the ride…As an American…He gave you back the respect..Celeberate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Brian Lynchehaun

    “For creating and sustaining a stable and civil democracy that is the envy of the world.”

    You seem confused.

    Where is this “envy of the world” coming from, other than the inside of your head, and other Americans?

  • cemab4y

    This is bogus. The man has not done anything! I hope and pray for his success, and maybe the award will work to help advance peace. At least, there was no harm done.

    Le Duc Tho won the NPP, and never went to get it. The “peace” that Le Duc Tho and Kissinger worked out, resulted in 600,000 Vietnamese deaths, refugees, etc. and the deaths of between 1-3 million Cambodians in the killing fields.

    Some peace.

  • freeinpa

    PRICELESS. I have not seen the tortuous body twisting and (ir)rationalization in quite some time as with this crowd desperately trying to certify this as a righteous choice.

    First, the Nobel Prize has never been about a hopeful future act. And it has been years since the Prize has not been a partisan plug to push global goals. Historically, works and acts of men and women were rewarded the prize 10 to 30 years after they were first published. Many were honored posthumously.

    Ronald Reagan who was primarily responsible for bringing down the Berlin Wall was never so honored. But now we have someone who spent a total of 11 days in office before the nominations began. wins the prize.

    Even Matt Lauer, not exactly the brightest bulb of the liberal press stated, “I don’t want to be rude but he hasn’t done nothing”.

    Much of the world views this award as a joke and it is. The argument of he have brought the world together after 8 years of Bush is equally comical. Russia, Chavez, Iraq, North Korea LOVE US, a neutered dog. Just like they loved Jimmy Carter right before we had over 400 days of hostages.

    To believe this is truly a justifed award points to the fact that shoelaces, belts and pointed objects should be removed from the possession of liberals. You desparately need medication, in Dee in Columbia’s case, double the dose.

    It will be more than interesting when this evergrowing pedestal crumbles, and it will. This emperor truly has no clothes.

  • arartteacher

    I believe your right I can think of no other reason for all this hate. Every thing this man does is just blasted. He wanted to talk to the kids about staying in school and people wouldn’t let their kids go to school that day, that’s ridiculous. He walked into a terrible situation and is trying to do the best he can. Does anyone really believe that McCain and that idiot pallen would have done any better NOPE?

  • mariapalestina

    So far he’s all talk and no action. Maybe the Nobel committee decided if it gave him the prize on the basis of his promises, he would have to deliver.

    His most important job is to tell Netanyahooo to take a flyer and to insist on removal (not a freeze) on all settlements. Maybe he thinks sucking up to AIPAC and the zionist mafia in the US will get him re-elected, but he’s mistaken. We elected him because he promised to DO something about Israel, and if he doesn’t DO something he is toast in 2012.

    Israel is destroying itself anyhow, so continuing to support the racist regime is backing a dead horse.

    Free Gaza. Free Palestine. End Israeli apartheid.

  • abinct

    What is the matter with Time? Do you feel smart writing articles that are only cynical? Everything I read today is about how it will hurt Obama, how “it’s the last thing he needs”, etc…

    The rest of the world recognizes him as a transformative figure, and has awarded him one of the highest honors, and you guys can’t see that. All you know how to do is criticise. How about congratulations for a change? How about pride at an American winning the prize? How about an article asking how many other countries would elect such a man? Why do you need to always attack?

    If you want to criticize him for specific policies, fine. But this is an award, and he should be congratulated. And today we should be proud that he is our president. Plain and simple.

  • mikelitwin

    I could go on and on about this, but I’ll let this image speak for me:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikelitwinillustration/3995754446/

  • arartteacher

    Well said

  • shardin77

    First off, the media have shown themselves to be “callow, shallow, selfish institutions” on numerous occasions before this one. It’s nothing new, to their (and our) shame. But as for your points, I disagree with them.

    I’d like nothing better than for the US to have a strong, intelligent, unifying leader with the courage to guide this country that I love out of hard times. Unfortunately, what we have is just another politician. What’s worse, though people refuse to see it, he’s Bush number 3.

    First, your points:

    a) “revitalised conversation… about nuclear disarmament” – Conversations are not results. Believe me, I understand that the process of diplomacy takes time. That’s as it should be, but if we’re giving someone credit for renewing a “conversation” we’ll have to start handing out Nobels at cocktail parties.

    b) “a debate about healthcare that… moved the US forward” – Forward? Really? The reason that the public option and single payer issues were not part of public debate before now is that they are demonstrably bad ideas, and were beneath argument. I can cite sources, but you’ve seen them all and rejected the logic, so I’ll move on.

    c) “intangible respect for the ‘other’” – I’ll give you this one. Thank God for all that “intangible respect” that’s keeping the dollar afloat right now.

    d) “largest stimulus ever enacted” – Yes it’s getting criticism, but not because it was too small! Are you daft? It’s criticized for being (1) a bad idea from the start (2) ineffective to the extreme (3) full of pork and political payback (4) harmful in the long term. If we’re being honest, let’s be completely honest. The “stimulus” plan had nothing to do with helping the economy, that’s why they didn’t allow anyone to read it before the vote. (Can’t blame the President directly for this one. Write your Congressmen, folks.)

    e) “putting balls in motion on so many issues” – Well, every time something embarrassing for the administration comes up we suddenly have another issue to debate. If each of these issues was a circus act, we’d have a full three ring big top on the national mall right now, and we’d still be no closer to a resolution of any of our problems.

    f) showing the world that “the US should not be judged by their election of W alone” – I have two problems with this.
    The first is that if the world doesn’t like who we vote for, let them speak at the ballot box. Oh wait, we’re voting for OUR OWN leader and they can keep their opinions to themselves.
    The second, (and I’m going to get flamed here) is that despite all of the campaign rhetoric and all of the slogans about how a vote for McCain was a vote for more Bush, the reality is that a vote for EITHER candidate was a vote for more Bush. Obama talks a better game, I’ll give him that. McCain really didn’t have a chance. The point, though, if we’re being cold and logical, is that nothing has changed as far as executive policy since January 2009. What did everyone hate about Bush? Needless wars, domestic spying, Gitmo, and on and on. Well, let’s look at Obama’s first 9 months the mute button on (he’s a good speaker, but words don’t count for squat without actions): the wars continue with our troops in a worse position than before, the patriot act still stands, Gitmo remains, the economy took a nose dive and is still in decline as is the dollar, wall street continues to decline and still seems determined to bring the rest of the world down with it, the racial divide in this country hasn’t been wider since before the Civil Rights movement.
    I’m not saying the man is Hitler the Second or the new Stalin, I’m just saying that he’s not the return of the Messiah, either. He’s squandered his first 9 months on political issues and political payback which his administration and congressional cronies have couched in various, more noble motivations, and accomplished nothing.
    I’d like nothing better than for him to make good on the promises he’s made, but you’ll never see me joining the Obama cult. In fact, until we start seeing some real positive results and a true movement to return to Constitutional government, personal liberty and a reliance on personal responsibility rather than a culture of victimhood, I will ardently oppose ANY politician and ANY cause that distracts us from that path.

  • billemmons

    Apparently liberals can bad mouth Bush and any conservative, but when a conservative simply says that Obama does not deserve something we are racist or worse. I am not a racist! I don’t like socialists in the white house beginning with Biden and ending with Obama and all those who want a government deciding what I do or think!

  • mikelitwin
  • arartteacher

    What do you think he has done that makes him a socialist?

  • sev

    Who said US is a lieder of the world. Isn’t that another wishful thinking or next usurpation…
    Are we that immature and unripe to repeat this kind of jingle without thinking who we really are?
    Wake up people, look around…

  • http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/2009/10/09/why-6 Why? | GazetteOnline.com

    [...] Joe Klein: I’m as relieved as anybody that the Bushian gunslingers have been given the gate and, as regular readers know, I’m a big fan of patient, rigorous diplomacy–and there’s a certain lovely irony to any prize that brings the Taliban and the neoconservative Commentary crowd together in high dudgeon–but let’s face it: this prize is premature to the point of ridiculousness. It continues a pattern that holds some peril for Obama: he is celebrated for who he is not, and for who he might potentially be, rather than for what he has actually done. If he doesn’t provide results that justify the award, this Nobel will prove a millstone come election time. [...]

  • zzeb

    A young, promising honor student is resting in Peace now, thanks to Hussein Obama’s refusal to address violence in America, even in his adopted home town. I’m sure the young man’s mother is especially proud right now. How can a President with blood on his hands do anything for World peace?

  • hvarluv

    american people deserve a nobel peace prize…?! you better be joking.

  • http://samsafe.wordpress.com samsafe

    I am compelled to sing “Amazing Grace” in disgust long before the impending Sunday as I read with deep chagrins the similarity between this Op Ed piece by Joe Klein and another fascist analysis by Nancy Gibbs in Time.com. If such fascist thought processes are an integral part of the psyche of many Americans, I wonder if there is any difference between today’s America and Hitler’s Nazi Germany.

    Barak Obama’s Nobel Prize is merely a recognition by the world that the leadership of America has changed from the Bush-Cheney Rogues to a more humane Obama. The World has also endorsed thru this Nobel that the Obama world view of foreign policy problems and solutions are no longer the same as those of the Bush-Cheney Rogues. The Nobel Committee and the International community has now come to believe that President Obama’s tactics and strategy in future will not include the frivolous use of the barabaric military options of the Bush era. The Nobel is an incentive to a careful President to behave in a civilized mode, as has been indicated by his rhetoric to date. I hope, he will not behave like his rogue predicessors.

    This may be hard for the right wing American fascists to understand. But, much of the non-American world thinks like Nobel Committee. So, Mr Klein and Ms Gibbs, take your military option and shove it up your assss….

  • mariapalestina

    Definitely Obama should be congratulated on his promises. The question is whether he will deliver.

    He promised to make peace in Israel/Palestine; so far he has given just lip service. The sad thing is that, unlike Bush who didn’t have the brains of a rutabaga, Obama knows that Israel is at the bottom of all the world’s problems in the Middle East.

    The entire world sees the outrageous bias that US administrations have shown toward Israel, and outside the US there is almost unanimous outrage. If there is ever to be peace in the middle east, the first step is to demand that Israel cease its brutalization and terrorization of its neighbors, especially the Palestinians. The US has become a laughing stock all over the world, having lost much of the respect we used to enjoy from other nations and other people.

    Follow through on justice for Palestine and see how quickly other countries will come back to support the U.S.

    Let’s hope our president sees this award is a wakeup call that he needs to walk the walk if he is to be taken seriously (and if he has any hope of being re-elected)
    We certainly don’t want to see him replaced by another Bush or a Bush-crony.

  • arartteacher

    mariapalestina I think your right but I also believe that it’s hard to walk the walk when there is some one foot trying to trip you up at every step. Every thing the president tries to do he is pulled down by tons of opposition that is there just to oppose.

  • bhoucky

    We all know he hasn’t done anything yet to deserve the award, so there is only one thing he should do with the money. He should do one of the things he used in his campaign ( SHARE THE WEALTH). There are so many of us living on unemployment (can’t hardly make our Mortgage Payments and other payments) that have worked hard all our lives just to end up with nothing to show for it. Yes, I’m a little bitter. We heard a lot of promises but no action. I would love to be able to jet off anywhere anytime, but that ain’t gonna happen, heck I’d just like to be able to drive somewhere on a vacation, but that ain’t gonna happen either. We the people can not survive on just unemployment, and they aren’t any jobs, so Mr. Obama do something or get off the pot.

  • viciousmaniac

    The Nobel Peace Prize has long been farcically, knee-jerkingly politics-of-now (Bloodstained Arafat and Peres for the doomed Oslo Accords, Al “Ethanol rules!” Gore for whatever he does, Kissinger, etc.) The Nobel Peace Prize, if it were actually just, would automatically disqualify Obama for the civilian deaths in Afghanistan alone (barring any other warmongering/inaction he might commit later).
    .
    However, Bush was so destructive and Obama’s victory over neocons/DLC so vital that that, yes, him just being president in itself is worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize. Though technically they should give the prize to Plouffe and Axelrod, or to the collective people that voted for him, rather than Obama.

  • mariapalestina

    Yes, it’s clear it will be tougher than he anticipated. But it’s time we had leadership willing to stand up to zionist interests in the US. With millions of Americans unemployed and without health care, losing their homes and their hopes, it’s time to stop sending billions of our tax dollars every year to Israel, money it uses to build illegal settlements on stolen Palestinian land and to buy military machinery to murder innocent children in Gaza.

    Obama promised he would bring change, and we hoped we could believe him, especially after his pretty speech in Egypt in June. Instead he backs down whenever Israel shouts, and we no longer hear him demanding Israel obey international law. Being president isn’t easy, but things have to change, and I truly believe he can do it if he has the will to do it.

    We need to get rid of those people in high places in Washington who have Israeli passports and whose allegiance is to Israel rather than to the U.S.

    Obama said: “Yes, we can!” Let’s hope he will stand by his words and make us proud.

  • 1stymemommy

    I can’t seem to understand why so many people are bothered by President Obama winning this award. Even more, I don’t ever remember this many people even concerned with the winner of the Prize any other year. Truth be told, I really don’t care that he won. I just said “Wow…that brother doesn’t quit. Congrats” and moved on. Every week, there seems to be a new reason to dislike President Obama and I just have not found him to be such a horrible human being. I can see not agree with his strategies or his rhetoric, but this constant criticism seems so deep-rooted and personal.

    America is in so much turmoil that we should just be at peace with the fact that he is trying to fix this mess. It’s only been 8 months.

  • moiraesfate

    Seriously, enough of this idiotic crap. Bush nearly caused the third world war, Obama has been working hard for something resembling peace. There IS a difference, so stop it. You know better than this.

  • moiraesfate

    I so completely agree with you. Its like no one can ever give him credit for anything. I’m so sick of hearing it. The negativity is going to destroy this country.

  • 12345sar

    Not for nothing but ,Nobel invented dynamite. So the guy blows up half the world and has the balls to give out a peace prize. What a joke. Even if it was legit or non byass, wich it’s not reguardless of the winner. NO POLITICIAN SHOULD EVER WIN A PEACE PRIZE! Unless you can find me an honest one. Good luck with that! Seems to me a peace prize should be reserved for someone who put others first all the time, not just while there on camera or getting there pockets lined. You can only find people like that among the common folks. To bad those are the ones we never see or hear about. So i toast you folks for all you do everyday,the true peace prize winners. You know who you are. Thank you & be well,your the difference makers. To bad your also the minority.

  • admin

    Chemists, physicists, and others usually work a lifetime – decades at least – before being honored with a Nobel Prize. They are NOT awarded for what their research may achieve in the years ahead. Why should the Peace Prize be any different? The Nobel Peace Award has now become a joke.

  • http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2009/10/09/commentary-roundup-obama-and-nobel/ Commentary roundup: Obama and Nobel « Des Moines Register Staff Blogs | The Des Moines Register

    [...] Joe Klein (Time) — There’s a certain lovely irony to any prize that brings the Taliban and the neoconservative Commentary crowd together in high dudgeon — but let’s face it: this prize is premature to the point of ridiculousness. [...]

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Well all I can say is Time got its wish. that glen Beck cover brought in the wingnuts and the level of discourse is now as course as every other site. This used to be a place that intelligent people with compelling argument used to come for debate. But you people went for the ratings and now you’ve produced a site that is foreign to your long time visitors and hardly worthy of very much more of my time. See ya.

  • 12345sar

    First off since is spelled SINCE not sense. If you want people to take you seriously you have to be able to spell at least the simple words. Second, some of the couch people you refer to did run for the office. They however did not have the privilege of wasting millions upon millions of dollars so you could see their faces on tv every 3 min. Oh that’s right they were not invited to the debates either. AKA.The i’m full of it sessions. To bad for us the dems & reps care more about their parties than their country. Maybe you would have been able to hear from some of them if that was not the case. Next election get online and you will see there are more options than what they are willing to tell you. No i don’t mean Nader. Just common people looking for a better way, not part of any party.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Wow, what an honor. Yassir Arrafat would be so proud. People please get up off your knees!! It’s just not normal to worship someone who in reality wouldn’t pee on you if you were on fire.

  • activistmom

    I join with those who applaud the President being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. His election gave hope to the American people at the start of what many were calling ‘the next Great Depression” and VASTLY improved our standing in the eyes of other nations. That he has a long road ahead of him was always a given, that he faces tough and nasty and well-entrenched opposition was always a given, and that he is but one man against an enormous, and enormously destructive, system…is also a given. I pray that he can accomplish even 20% of what he is capable of in this era of cynicism, greed and destructive partisan politics and corrupt business-as-usual politicians.

    Bring it Mr President!! We worked hard to elect you, we are incredibly proud of you, and we take huge pride, and a tiny bit of credit, in your award!

  • theotherjimmyolson

    Abe Lincoln didn’t look too awful good nine months into his first term either. Just sayin’

  • zindedi

    The president of the United States, Barack Obama you should be ashamed to accept this prestigious award of achievement the Nobel Peace Prize. Instead of refusing this award you with your sheepishly grin accepted this award and for what?

    On behalf of all Americans and the people around the world we deplore you. You have brought shame to us all.

    Nobel Peace Prize is given to individual(s) who through their hard work, dedication and a lot of sacrifices throughout their lives have achieved something and have given back to human race in lieu of humanity.

    Everyone are stunned and stymied by you getting this award. I think the Nobel Prize organization have made a grave mistake and now have made a laughing stock of themselves . Now people will be ridiculing them from now on.

    Just imagine the people who have won this dignified award of achievement all these years feel? I bet they must be really embarrassed.

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  • adamellis1985

    I don’t think Obama deserved to win…yet. It’s a well done so far and keep going from the Nobel Committee. They want Obama to deliver on his promises and have awarded him ahead of actually achieveing anything!! I have written a blog post on the topic, ‘Will the real President Obama please stand up?’ if anyone wants to take a look http://wp.me/pCIZY-Y

  • ladybard

    October 23rd 2006, TIME magazine gave the unknown Hussein Obama a Front Cover with the words “This man could be the next President.”

    In other words a puff piece, which must have cost a fortune.

    How much was TIME Magazine paid to put this “Herr Ohne Schatten” on its cover, and,

    Who paid for it?

    As Abe Lincoln said, you…can’t fool all of the people all of the time…

    Here’s another question? If that Kenyan Birth Cert ever sees daylight again, are Obama’s abetters guilty of treason?

  • http://ralphdz.wordpress.com ralphdz

    @klein… premature. While it is true the award might be premature, so are you comments. Learn to listen instead of spouting out. The Nobel committee recognized that this President is capable of communicating, i.e. both listen and talk, and this in itself has moved the international community forward.

    The President’s envision of communication may not work in the US. This unfortunately due to the near-sightedness of the right wing; however, the international community recognizes the power of true dialog. As of the nah sayers “it’s an anti-Bush” vote, yes it is a vote for true international dialog, not the bullying which had been the policy of the previous gang.

  • bryanfromhouston

    Joe,
    .
    I expect a wingnut response from the Republicans. After all, they are wingnuts!!! But you….
    .
    Well, I’m going to give you the treatment.
    .
    So I quote in full:
    .
    The Republican Party [and Joe Klein] has thrown in its lot with the terrorists — the Taliban and Hamas this morning — in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize,” wrote DNC Communications Director Brad Woodhouse. “Republicans cheered when America failed to land the Olympics and now they are criticizing the President of the United States for receiving the Nobel Peace prize — an award he did not seek but that is nonetheless an honor in which every American can take great pride — unless of course you are the Republican Party. The 2009 version of the Republican Party has no boundaries, has no shame and has proved that they will put politics above patriotism at every turn. It’s no wonder only 20 percent of Americans admit to being Republicans anymore – it’s an embarrassing label to claim.”

    Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/09/obamas-nobel-prize-inspir_n_315167.html

  • obamablows

    Elvisber…
    Dont degrade our fine country by implying that we were not on “the side of the rule of law” during previous administrations. Sending obama to meet with foreign dignitaries is quite embarrasing. He bows down to the Saudi king, apologizes for any perceptions people have of the US and distances himself from the great history of our country.
    obama is a joke and this nobel prize is the punch line. If the Nobel prize is to have any merit, it should be given to people who have accomplished something, not given to people who start a dialogue that will end up as a muddy banter like all the other peace-keeping efforts.

  • doonboggle

    “This would not please those Israelis–and their American enablers–who want to hold onto lands that they gained by conquest,…”

    These so called ‘conquest’ lands are lands that the world in the late 1940′s GAVE to the Jewish people to compensate for what Hitler did. And as you should know, if you used your brain to study and post honest articles, the other so called ‘conquest’ lands (Gaza, West bank, etc.) have been offered as appeasement in the recent years. But the Muslims, as a whole, want ALL the lands; and also openly advocate the total killing of ALL people (Jews, Christians, Hindus, atheists, etc.) who do not agree with their murderous plans to slaughter all non believers.

  • jlbrumb

    One idea;One idea, which Zbigniew Brzezinski has been touting, would be to announce the parameters for a Middle East peace settlement–and recruit the rest of the world to get behind it.

    Better idea: Announce the parameters and force the compliance by both sides. All or none will continue to receive ANYTHING from U.S.

    Stop asking and start telling!

  • http://mikyunglim.wordpress.com mikyunglim

    Mr. Klein,

    Regarding President’s remark on his winning the award and your statement, “Well, the President hit precisely the notes I predicted…,”

    I can not imagine anything else but saying the exact same thing as Pres. Obama stated, as a head of state, regardless of you set the tone earlier or not.

    I wish you to have focused more on the positive sides of the winning, if you really cared for the impact of this Award in the world and US. The priority of this award should be given to the magnitude of progress it can make on world peace talk, if the impact can be magnified by any means, rather than bickering whether he has accomplished enough or not (which I believe he set the strong foundation of progress within very short time).

    Do you have any other person in your mind who can achieve this global agenda better than Mr. Obama at this point of time?

    Also, if you have hypothetical options to chose as below, which one would you like to choose?

    (a) Pres. Obama, with winning Nobel Peace Prize, achieves 85% success rate of his global missions by the end of his term.

    (b) Pres. Obama, without winning the award, achieves 50% success of his global missions by the end of his term.

  • doonboggle

    jacklynd-”Reward to our nation”
    HUH! Just a partisan reward to a mulatto who knows nothing about politics but for Acorn, Alinsky, Ayers, Marxism, welfare, income redistribution, surrender, apologize, insult, liar, … oh heck, I could go on all day and still never finish.

  • doonboggle

    Joe: “End the credit freeze.”
    What are you smoking today. The freeze is far from ended!!!!!!!!! Do not give this dingbat credit for things he knows nothing about, and has not done. Pure and simple!!!

  • http://rahulmisra2000.wordpress.com rahulmisra2000

    Congratulations to the committee for awarding Pres. Obama the Nobel Peace Prize that he so rightly deserves.

    Finally after years of damage to the world and US’s pride and stature by Bush, the world will now welcome the US of the past. For this foresight, I commend the committee.

    I also congratulate Pres. Obama for having trying to bring the country together, despite the illogical and partisan ways of the republicans and their agenda. His humility is an amazing virtue.

    I hope the public in America sees the deeper meaning of this award.

    With all due respect, this award is the second time a shoe has been thrown at Bush and the republicans who made atrocious foreign policy decisions for 8 years and justified their nonsensical policies by instilling fear and falsehood in the american psyche.

    May God Bless USA and the World.

  • http://rahulmisra2000.wordpress.com rahulmisra2000

    Preview:

    Congratulations to the committee for awarding Pres. Obama the Nobel Peace Prize that he so rightly deserves.

    Finally after years of damage to the world and US’s pride and stature by Bush, the world will now welcome the US of the past. For this foresight, I commend the committee.

    I also congratulate Pres. Obama for having trying to bring the country together, despite the illogical and partisan ways of the republicans and their agenda. His humility is an amazing virtue.

    I hope the public in America sees the deeper meaning of this award.

    With all due respect, this award is the second time a shoe has been thrown at Bush and the republicans who made atrocious foreign policy decisions for 8 years and justified their nonsensical policies by instilling fear and falsehood in the american psyche.

    May God Bless USA and the World.

  • jay201

    The huge presumption by Klein that Obama won the Nobel peace prize by “not being Bush” is as weak as his logic gets. The article that follows assaulting the prize is based on that shaky premise and is thus not worthwhile as a serious piece of journalism.

    A stronger story line, if Klein wanted to invoke the anti-peace Bush legacy, would have been to assess what UNDOING the pro-war Bush policies does for world peace. Here the list is staggering:
    1. Envisioning a world free of nuclear weapons and in a short time coming to an agreement with Russia to do the same promotes human safety and peace throughout the globe.
    2. Scrapping the Bush shield plan lowers tension with Eastern Europe.
    3. Working with the UN to impose sanctions on North Korea and Iran for missile (possibly nuclear) testing instead of rushing to war places diplomacy over war.
    4. Agreeing to a withdrawal of US troops from Iraq by 2010 and an end to combat missions is a move away from war.
    5. Joining and strengthening the UN and Afghan forces in Afghanistan is not war ON Afghanistan, it is a fight to save Afghanistan from Bin Laden IN Afghanistan. Some may argue how can one engage in a war and that be a peace initiative? Think about it in these terms: If the US and its Allies did not take down Hitler in WWII, would the world be more peaceful under Nazi rule? The act of tempering down Al-Qaeda’s terrorist acts of downing commercial flights in the US, the bombing of embassies in Africa, the bombing of trains in Madrid, etc… can not be met with a pretty speech alone. Obama is acting multilaterally with other nations to confront Al Qaeda that wrecks peace in the world.
    6. Al Gore won the prize based on his work on global warming. Obama undid the Bush legacy by signing onto the goals of the Kyoto protocols.
    7. The prisoners in Guantanamo Bay are at last having their day in court. This symbol of US injustice is coming to a close.
    8. Obama made a speech in Cairo, one of the ancient seats of Islam, declaring that the US is “not at war with Islam.” At the last census, Muslims make up a quarter of the world’s population. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/Nearly-One-in-Four–63872617.html
    Yes, Obama declared to a quarter of the world’s population that the US is not at war with them. And he has the power to act on that. That was important as a peace initiative, as it sets the table for issues of war and peace during his tenure.

    War and peace: Isn’t that what the Nobel prize is about?

    Is the process perfect in choosing a laureate? No. 1946 would have been a good year for Gandhi, one would have thought. That man of peace never won the prize after real achievement. Neither did Martin Luther King Jr. for his work on equal justice under the law. The good news is that our school kids will still know about them.

  • rmshowley

    I agree Greg Mortenson of “Three Cups of Tea” fame is a deserving recipient of $1.4 million. He can do as much good at 50,000 bombs.

  • cfukara

    ” .. this premature prize ..”

    Yeah! Is that written with the same vein as you may write about a “premature death”?
    When will you get your ‘premature’ Noble peace prize, JK? And will you accept it? Or are you waiting to ‘mature’?
    ——

    ” … the President hit precisely the notes I predicted above ..”
    The wise supremacist JK knows it all.
    Our society expects a certain humility from us. Is it difficult for JK to predict what people are likely to say when they get awards, say an oscar?
    [is it difficult to predict in general how a Catholic worship will proceed or end ..]

    If the president gave his acceptance speech a few hours after he had been notified about the award then, gosh, JK was sure desperate to parade around as clever, wasn’t he?

    It seems to me that credits rarely go JK’s way and that he will latch at anything …

    ———

    ” .. I hope he gives some consideration to a more aggressive peace agenda, especially in the Middle East, ..”

    Why “hope” if you can predict, JK?

    We are good at predictions too.
    We can predict what “more aggressive peace agenda” JK will condemn. One that tells Israel “USA’s way or we`are through”. Like no longer is the mighty USA going to take the denigration from that misbegotten lot and pussy-foot around scared of flea-bitten, give-me-give-me jewish settlers and their tin-horn beggars they call leaders?

    I mean, America of the gentiles can feed itself.
    If those beggars are chosen, supreme and better than us gentiles, why can’t they sustain themselves?
    Why do we, the denigrated gentiles, have to directly or indirectly build their houses?
    Why do we have to fund their cursed thrust to commandeer other people’s land and houses?
    Why do we have to provide them with food and fund their health care?
    Why do we have to provide them with diplomatic cover and arms with which to kill their neighbors?

    By the way, like other countries in the region, they must submit to an inspection by international monitors, of their nuclear facilities and all facilities in their territory.
    That is, every inch of their blood-soaked barren wasteland.

    A brave new world.
    Beware what you ask for …

  • cfukara

    “USA’s way or we`are through”

    I may be mistaken, but some of us, the people of America, think that our land can survive and prosper without Israel.
    Can Israel stand without us?

    So why do we stand for their stupid games and denigration?

    By the way, congratulations, Mr President.

  • cfukara

    ” .. The huge presumption by Klein that Obama won the Nobel peace prize by “not being Bush” is as weak .. “

    Israel and its fifth column in USA’s congress (AIPAC) and MSM have a desperate survival need to ensure that Pres Obama does not get out of line – get too big for his breeches – and become too confident that he exert USA’s supremacy in the Middle East and the world and thereby usurp from Israel the power to determine, on their terms, the exigencies of peace and war in the Middle East (and what people get invaded and killed by the multitudes.)

  • cfukara

    ” .. have a desperate survival need ..”

    Hence the lash out, the strained gut response from the frightened quarters, aimed at trivializing Pres Obama’s accomplishments, diminish his praises, ‘cut him down to size’ …

  • cfukara

    ” .. ” … the President hit precisely the notes I predicted above ..”
    The wise supremacist JK knows it all ..”.

    Just heard this take from a colleague:

    JK’s keen effort to put down the president may be a flustered, age-old, high-profile, high visibility, psyche war effort from a supremacist – who is strategically placed in the media – to remind those others that the supreme beings can outdo them – and their president – in the thinking arena. That the lesser beings should relegate themselves into providing the brawn, sweat, toil, tax-dollars and bodies for a body-count – and leave the higher pursuits of thinking and deciding to the supreme ones. ..

    That after all, their president and leader who is now getting the accolades from fellow lesser beings, is just a follower – whose entirety and simplicity of thought can be perfectly profiled by one named Joe Klein (who is not even ranked among the supreme beings !)

    Gosh!

    Limbaughs, Becks and Steeles may do it one way – denigration and subversion from without. The ways of JK and his friends in and around the WH – denigration and subversion from up close and personal – is also quiet effective.

  • probodyguard

    In keeping with th Nobel Peace Prize, I was informed this morning that I have won Playgirl Magazine’s “Sexiest Man Alive” award for 2009.

    I am told that the award was not meant as a reward, but rather as encouragement to continue with my impossible quest.

    Like the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, I certainly don’t deserve it, but I will accept this award as a call to action, and so I have made appointments with the gym, the hairdressers, the Orthodontist, and the Plastic Surgeon.

  • jay201

    The right-wing nuts have nothing to attack except the stuff that is supposedly good.

    If everyone had healthcare in this nation that would be good, right? Even Jesus gave free healthcare to all. But the God-fearing Republicans are against that.

    Winning the Nobel prize is a good thing, right? It is an acknowledgment this nation’s push under Obama to rid the world of nuclear weapons, to withdraw from Iraq, to help the fledgling Afghan democracy survive, to engage diplomatically with Iran and North Korea, to strengthening the family bonds between Cubans in the US and the island, to challenge the Muslim world in his Cairo address to reject Al Qaeda and its violence, to send special envoys to the Middle East to jumpstart the stalled talks between Israel and the Palestine, and address the issues of HIV-Aids and NGOs for economic independence in Africa.

    Only a right-wing nut can say this is BAD for the world and AGAINST PEACE.

    Even ONE of these achievements qualifies for the Nobel peace prize. What did Rabin and Arafat do? The bombed each other before they shook hands. Right. And bombed each other again later.

    PEACE OUT.

  • jay201

    there was no nobel prize in abe’s time. just sayin’

  • jay201

    i think we were already ridiculed for attacking the wrong country for weapons of mass destruction.

  • rollinguo

    The joke is you. The president earned the prize:
    what has actually been done?

    - Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev agreed that their negotiators would work out a new limit on delivery vehicles for nukes and warhead limits as well.

    - Scrapped plans to build a missile defense shield in the Czech Republic and Poland that…poses less of a threat to a jittery Russia.

    - In-process closing of Guantanamo Bay prison facility.

    - In-process withdrawal of US troops from Iraq.

    - Opening talks with the likes of Iran, Syria, Cuba…

    While most of this incomplete list is still in-process – and a true peace will always be in-process – there’s one more point to consider:

    In June, the U.S. president held a commanding lead over other heads of government in a poll of people in 20 nations with 62% of the world’s population. An average of 61% of the respondents said they had confidence in Obama “to do the right thing regarding world affairs.” The next closest leaders trailed him by 21 points.

    In nine months the Obama administration is, by rejecting the belligerent Bush administration approach to foreign policy, restoring America in the eyes of the world as a force for good.

  • moegh

    Im already filling out my application for next years nobel peace prize! :D u never know , i might as well get it jus like he did! lol

  • moegh

    im already filling out next years nobel peace prize application! it seems easy to get , u might as well all apply! lol

  • rollinguo

    You are obviously too stupid to see the difference bwt speeches: one has power, the other is empty.

  • rollinguo

    Well said well said. Me too!

  • rollinguo

    No zindedi, I am ashamed by you as my fellow American. I am proud of my president who won back our country’s respect from around the world.

  • clarksvilleal

    “It doesn’t matter who you are, where you come from, whether you believe in God or not–this American principle, the belief in certain inalienable rights, should be the basis for international interactions as well.”

    Mr. Klein, please recall that the actual words of the Declaration of Independence are “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

    These words have no meaning unless you believe in a Creator – i.e., God. Without a God, the strongest people, or the most ruthless, or the most egotistical and narcissistic – or the state – can and will define away these rights as they see fit. We have seen this happen over and over again in history, most recently with Fascism and Communism, both of which are Atheistic at their core. It is in fact the belief in God, and the concomitant belief in objective truths, that was the determining factor that motivated our founding fathers to write these words and to pledge their lives, their fortunes and their honor to uphold and witness to their truth.

    You deceive yourself, Mr. Klein, if you believe that “this American principle” can have any meaning and can be the “basis for international interactions” for those who do not believe in God.

  • roniweiss

    If the Bush years were just a “dark aberration”, that would mean Obama is the norm, and therefore hasn’t done anything special to earn this award.

  • http://www.snydertalk.com/?p=1562 “Thus says God, Yahweh, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and its offspring, who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it, I am Yahweh, I have called You in righteousness, I will also

    [...] No peace, no prize [...]

  • jay201

    No Peace, No Prize?

    Unlike Rabin and Arafat who achieved long lasting peace?

    http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/big/0913.html

    Think before you ink, Joe Klein.

  • jay201

    Undoing the Bush-Cheney mess will take much longer than 230 days.

  • http://justabovesunset.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/five-norwegians-can-cause-no-end-of-trouble/ Five Norwegians Can Cause No End of Trouble « Just Above Sunset

    [...] But there is this warning from Time’s Joe Klein: [...]

  • cfukara

    ” .. When will you get your (very own) ‘premature’ Noble peace prize, JK? ..”

    If I was awarded the Nobel peace prize, would I take it? YES. It is a legit source.

    Would I ask why? Not really – well, maybe in a year after I get back from vacation and I am broke.

    Would I love it? YES.
    [JK is perhaps the only worker who wouldn't love an extra million dollars, so he says. And he believes it, poor sod. "It's premature!" What does he know about a million dollars? ... ..]

  • cfukara

    He has no quarrel with Henry Kissinger who got the prize – for nothing readily discernible.

    It was reported that at a peace negotiations conference in Paris, an American “diplomat” was heard to remark to a “Viet Cong” representative that history will record that the North Vietnam never defeated USA in (conventional?) battle.

    “That is immaterial, that is irrelevant,” the confident North Vietnamese calmly replied.

    A few months later, a routed USA was abandoning Saigon post-haste, and an opportunistic, holier-than-thou, prize bullock Kissinger was throwing poison darts at his boss, our president, and abandoning our sinking ship of state.

    Behavior unbecoming.

    There is something the conservatives may know as “Kissinger Peace” – don’t wait up for it.

  • terschoepflin

    What a travesty, what has he done, this is an insult to all that have won the Nobel. Just because he has been placed in the position as President by a misguided public does not justify his “award”. He won’t salute our flag, is sympathetic to our aggressors and is trying to destroy our current health care system. As a combat veteran I cannot support his agenda concerning our military interests.

  • http://jcdurbant.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/nobel-chamberlain-enfin-recompense-70-ans-apres-norwegian-quislings-repair-one-of-historys-greatest-injustices/ Nobel: Chamberlain enfin récompensé 70 ans après! (Norwegian quislings repair one of History’s greatest injustices) « jcdurbant

    [...] l’Amérique turbulente de s’être assagie et de ne pas avoir amené de flingues au dîner. Joe Klein [...]

  • ladybard

    Mother Teresa does not belong in the swamp with far left liberals like Desmond Tutu and terrorists like Nelson Mandela, whose silence regarding the racist torture and slaughter of white South Africans suggests extreme hypocrisy and greed.

    To the other eejit who, like every unwashed Marxist, blames the right for all the left’s ineptitude and bloody legacies, Hillary is right now being primed to step in if the Nobel doesn’t boost the Nobama.

    Nobama is a real nowhere man. No one knows where he’s from, what he’s done, all his records are sealed – he can’t cough without a teleprompter and he’s sitting in the White House. Well he’s in good company – the inventor of the internet, Gore the Bore and eat the fat of foreign aid – Yasir Arafat.

    Nobel has no value. It is now totally debased.

  • wheels01

    What has Obama actually done to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? The nobel prize committee had to nominate someone by Feb. 1st. Obama hadn’t even been in office for two weeks!

    So why does he deserve it? The only reason he won the award is because he isn’t GEORGE BUSH!

  • wwwdotinfowarsdotcom

    Posted on the prior thread…Why don’t we look at what has actually been done?

    - Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev agreed that their negotiators would work out a new limit on delivery vehicles for nukes and warhead limits as well.

    (IN REALITY: scrapping the long-range intercontinental nukes for tactical battlefield nukes and bunker busters)

    - Scrapped plans to build a missile defense shield in the Czech Republic and Poland that…poses less of a threat to a jittery Russia.

    (IN REALITY: scrapped the defense shield because it was really pissing off Russia, would have built it if Obama could get away with it)

    - In-process closing of Guantanamo Bay prison facility.

    (IN REALITY: closing Guantanamo Bay as a publicity stunt because of the prison camp’s international bad reputation, actually opening FEMA camps in the U.S. that will house “terrorists” = those that disagree with Lord Obama)

    - In-process withdrawal of US troops from Iraq.

    (IN REALITY: troops are going to Afganistan or on stand-by for Iran/Syria, the 2 remaining countries that big oil wants to control – look at what countries are between China and Israel, or be put on the streets of America to “assist” police which is happening already)

    - Opening talks with the likes of Iran, Syria, Cuba…

    (IN REALITY: “talks” are veiled threats)

    http://www.infowars.com

  • droddyc

    It seems the Committee who voted for this and with him being nominated before he even did anything is hilarious. But then Obama is in good company, Al Gore won it too. What I would like Obama to do is read his constitution that he swore to uphold. Against foreign and domestic threats. I think with all the trouble within the United States – rising unemployment, homeless, major decline in manufacturing, rising food prices and the dollar tanking – he should worry more about all the citizens in the United States and less about how the media and the world portray him. Like Bush before him he is more concerned about Big Business and growing the power that he has now gotten.

  • teacher55

    Drone on. The Nobel committee makes the decision. Decision made. Get over it!

    If the real motive is “Ding, Dong, the Witch is Dead” then so be it! I feel exactly the same way!

  • teacher55

    p.s. I love Paul-no’s comment, my other one was in the wrong place.

  • sacredh

    (IN REALITY: I voted for the old fossil and the crazy lady and have a hard time dealing with the fact that the smart black guy won)

  • rahimx10

    So, What the real problem with President Obama?

  • sacredh

    Smart, black, humble, wants what’s best for all Americans. Everything that drives the wingnuts even crazier. Oh, he’s the Anti-Christ too. That one’s a big sticking point.

  • rahimx10

    Well, I happen to agree with you and oh yeah don’t forget to throw in the fact that he doesn’t have a history of killing people……

  • 53_3

    Don’t forget that he wasn’t born here, either. He was born in Indonesia and Kenya. How he managed that I’ll never know, but there it is…

  • sacredh

    His wife is also an attractive, highly intelligent, successful, career oriented individual with a dynamic personality. Their children are also good looking and seem to be taking everything in stride.
    .
    Just think, if McCain/Palin had won the election, we’d be facing the prospect that the teenage dropout that knocked up the VP’s daughter would be on the verge of showing off his wanker in a porn magazine to the rest of the planet. The world wouldn’t dare to laugh at us then.

  • wkusa

    This means nothing… Obama’s attention should be on Jobs!

  • sacredh

    The guy running Apple Computer?

  • sacredh

    53_3: I’ve been trying to commune with my God all morning but the operator at the White house won’t put me through.

  • jambey

    Obama is given the award in the hope he does something in the future to earn it? This could start a new trend. Why not award the Cy Young award in baseball or the Heisman trophy in football at the start of the season to a player in the hope that sometime in the future he earns it. If Obama has any integrity he should respectfully decline the Nobel Peace Prize because he has done nothing to deserve it.

  • marshal64

    Everyone should go out and buy a box of Cracker Jacks. If you do and look inside, you will find your very own Nobel Prize. That is what they are worth today. It used to be a “life time” achievment and accomplishment to earn such an honor. But Al and Barack now each have their very own, I hope they shared the tastey carmel nuts and corn.

  • cfukara

    You miss the point, buddy. Go down the list of the Nobel prize winners and figure out those who did what. Start with Kissinger (lots of hot air, no peace), Rabin&Shamir(I smell the blood of gentiles, no peace); Tutu (nothing at the time, no peace STILL); …

    Honors do come for the ‘wrong’ reasons: Take for instance the case of that parent-abusing, prostitute-patronizing, anti-authority, runaway-from-home, commune-living cultist, rabble rouser, idler, socialist desert-rat named jesus … It can’t be worse, can it?

  • cfukara

    ” .. , socialist desert-rat ..”

    Correction: “, totally-hallucinating, socialist desert-rat ..”

  • cfukara

    Correction: “…, unabashedly plagiarizing, wildly hallucinating, socialist desert-rat ..”

  • http://joebearpa.wordpress.com joebearpa

    MODEL democracy? WOW… ask many of those Europeans, and you will find they lack not only envy of us, but also respect of us. Our democracy is a bit of a joke, we are a country of the RICH, not the everyday citizen. Most people simply don’t want the president to have the award, because they either want his presidency to fail, or because he is black. Both are a GREAT shame in this “democracy”. He has done more in 9 months than “W” did in 2 years….

  • http://joebearpa.wordpress.com joebearpa

    Healthcare system? WOW You can’t destroy that which barely exists. My father fought for your freedom, for 26 years in service of this country, and they wanted to drop his health care under Bush. (I have the letter from the US Government). I was hit by a car, and I went from 45k a year and medical to nothing… I can’t even get my spinal fusion checked, because Bush’s follies, and that of his Goldman-Sachs buddies, have ruined the economy SO much I can’t even get welfare, or Social Security… I am fixing computers on the side to pay for my Diabetes meds… tell me about health care in the richest nation in the world… I don’t see it…

  • pcvenstra

    I believe that the peace prize was given to our new president because there are to many people responsable for his being elected to be able to give it to all of them.

    By giving the prize to President Obama the commity is saying that the world appreciates the decision the people of the United States have made to change our government from what was a war driven government to a government that wants to change things for the better.

  • tazzmainian

    As an Ex-Marine I realize that our new President
    is offered some thing in my opinion to disrespect
    him. Yes he is young and will make mistakes. However
    we should always support the smallest of efforts to
    slow and or stop an unwinable war with unlimmited
    power. If he is honored for this award than I am sure
    He will mention all others who agree mass destruction
    is not the answer in any situation!

  • prestowiz

    Think about it for a moment….

    I don’t have to take out the trash I could just say I did and get the award (reward) for it….

    I could tell the boss “I want to come to work” and I could get paid for it….

    I could have an affair and say “I didn’t want that”….

    Man I didn’t see the wisdom in handing someone a once was prestigious award for saying something they wanted to do. The reason why troops are there and not coming home, he had no idea of the crap he was spewing out. To stand on a stage and tell people wonderful stories is entertaining, to get the office and find out you are completely clueless, well – that sucks.

    WAKE UP PEOPLE !!!

  • http://vesmir92505.wordpress.com vesmir92505

    How is Obama not as deserving of a peace award as others? Doctor King had a dream that President Obama brought to life more than any person to date. Is the person who made the dream such a vivid reality any less deserving than the one who dreamt it?

    People like Reverend King made efforts that have helped to pave the way for someone of color to break more ground, but most people never thought they’d see a black man as president of the U.S. during their lifetime.

    Obama got himself into the Whitehouse. He’s the figurehead of progress toward a “more perfect union”. He’s a living example of better harmony among races. What other event in the last 20 years or more has been more historical than his being the conduit for bringing people together and making the racial factor irrelevant in a presidential election? His election will be remembered as one of the greatest benchmarks of growth in a free society and yet people downplay his credit toward achieving that. Whether you agree with his politics or not, it’s simply stupid and asinine not to give him his props for that accomplishment.

    And if the rest of the world outside America see him as something so much better than Bush for improving international diplomacy and relations with other countries, all the better.

    It wasn’t up to America to decide who gets the Nobel peace prize. At least others see the importance Obama already has in history. They certainly recognize it and respect it more than a lot of these so-called “Americans” on this board have.

  • larry1jeni

    I totally agree with Saturday Night Live, I think the first year of his presidency has been a total waste, I can’t think of one thing he’s done to better the American people. He and his wife has done alot of talking about me and I. The American people are still without jobs and loosing their homes. Everything he does and says is about him. The stimulus package, debt for american people, alot of pork and alot of money for his friends, while american people goes without. He said his presidency would be transparent, if you call bulls–t transparent. He’s taken over GM, banks and finance institutions, trying to take over health care, well if he succeeds in that, tell your mom, dad and all your senior friends bye bye. Instead of taking care of them, he will give their health care to some mexicano. wake up Dee and stop believing his lies.

  • http://destiniite.wordpress.com destiniite

    Haters, get over it. He’s President , respect that. President Barack Obama’s efforts have been observed, honored, and applauded by governments of other countries. How sad it is that we as Americans won’t do the same. Love thy neighbor as thyself…..

  • cfukara

    ” ,, could tell the boss “I want to come to work” and I could get paid for it….
    WAKE UP PEOPLE !!!

    We could just say we are awake – and continue sleeping, right?

    WE ARE AWAKE!!!
    So back off.

  • cfukara

    A good American was a judge on a racist “talent” show in racist Australia and let it be known – quite clearly – that he would not stand for racist depiction of other races.

    It was curious to behold some in USA’s media take issue with this good American:
    1) That he should not have been so abrupt about it – outside the USA.
    2) That after all, the Australians have been depicting their own indeginous populations negatively for ages.
    3) That a similar piece depicting blacks negatively had been done on that show previously and nobody complained.

    But then I noted that;
    On 1) Indeed, perhaps we should not parade around far and wide pretending to spread the good American values like democracy, equality, ..opportunity, … the good works.

    on 2) Jews had been depicted negatively in the arts and media in many parts of the world – especially in the early 1940s and before that. Should we continue in that vein?

    On 3) Perhaps the Australians can shed light on what should be the nature of our relationship with people of other races. Australians need to tell us whether the indigenous Australians are less deserving of the best things in life. Should we hold that whites are less deserving in China?

    Yet I noted that those who had a beef with the good American are of the conservative ilk known to propose that our president Obama is not deserving of the presidency nor the Nobel peace prize nor the honor of presiding over a prosperous USA on his watch.
    And nor even the good fortune of having billions of dollars from Olympic games pour into Chicago and the USA on his watch.
    They boldly cheer the other side; and vigorously wish for – and promote – our leader’s failure; and thereby indeed embrace the failure of our USA.

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