Is Barack Obama–Gasp!-Good for America?

” “What do our allies think when they hear that and when they hear . . . Obama denigrating his own country and presenting himself as the man who will redeem America from its wickedness?”
What does cabbage-hammer think?
The same way he would with Obama denigrating Krauthammer’s own Israel and presenting bellicose Israel as the rogue nation which denigrates USA and its leaders, denies, impoverishes USA’s tax-paying citizens AND cavalierly negates the resolutions of the UN and the civilized world – and would drag the world to the brink of destruction from its wickedness ..

And that, by the way Mr Krauthammer, is PRESIDENT OBAMA to you. That is how we address our leaders, and we prefer that you address them the same way if you wish to live and thrive among us.

But you forgot to mention the percentage of the American public that now hates their country. It’s skyrocketed. They cheer when it loses the Olympics. They cheer when the stock market falls. They openly root for any failure. America’s loss is their gain. Country Last.

As columnist Charles Krauthammer asked on Fox News after Obama’s appearance before the United Nations, “What do our allies think when they hear that and when they hear . . . Obama denigrating his own country and presenting himself as the man who will redeem America from its wickedness?”

On the heels of a 100% perfect record of analyzing and predicting foreign policy outcomes, once again Charles Krauthammer has been proven omnipotent: honesty and humility could never be considered characteristics of either good leadership or common interest alliance.
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They hate us for our freedoms!

“But you forgot to mention the percentage of the American public that now hates their country.”
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In that context then the President can denigrate away. No problem.

And Krauthammer will be on Faux News again this week citing this exact poll as evidence that Obama has weakened the U.S. After all, if France is No. 2 wouldn’t that be proof positive that the U.S. isn’t standing up for [insert cliche here]?

Michael Scherer:
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The important question isn’t whether or not Barack Obama is good for America or our image –he might not be in office in four years– but whether an anti-hubris policy is good for America.
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Isn’t the policy –not the personality– what’s important here, Michael Scherer?

I look at the ability to admit to past mistakes and try to correct them as a strength, not a weakness. One of the first things we learn as children is to apologize when we do something wrong and pledge to do better the next time. During the previous eight years we refused to admit to making any mistakes and proudly proclaimed that it didn’t matter what anybody else said or thought about us. That was not only a weakness, it was a malignant flaw.

Why do Republicans hate America so much?

Because it’s not their ideal of America anymore. Ozzie and Harriet have left the building.

The funny thing is, the party line from Limbaugh like three days ago was, “Obama tells everyone we suck so the world hates us so we didn’t get the Olympics.” Now it turns out that actually, the world likes us. No doubt they’ll have no difficulty squaring the circle; cognitive dissonance is their forte.

They love America deeply, just like Ike loved Tina.

It’s a case of “If I can’t have her, nobody can”.

..that, by the way Mr Krauthammer, is PRESIDENT OBAMA to you. That is how we address our leaders…

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Since when do liberals give a crap about the use of sacred titles when speaking of our temporary public employees?

I’m a republican, and I love America enough to die for her. My son( who is finishing his first tour in Afganistan) is also a republican. I would like to hear you ask him why he hates America. Why don’t you ask your terrorists loving Chicago thug president why he hates America? By the way, does your mommy know you’re playing on her computer, slowp?

He is also your President. There is only one United States.

2/3brainless: way to go to demonstrate your “love” of your country. My foot.

sacredh: nice of him to pounce & prove your point, isn’t it?

Good work slowp, you flushed out G. Gordon Liddy.

2thirdsrock-
Rather respond in kind to your absurd comment about Obama. I wish your son well, thank him for his service and hope for his safe return home.

Hmm…old chuck is wrong yet again.

It looks like the rest of the world is as happy as the majority of this country that bush / cheney are gone.

Stuff it republicans! I guess “celebrity” IS all it’s cracked up to be.

They can’t resist. I detested Bush. I still do. As much as I disliked him, I still wanted to see the country grow and succeed. It sickens me to see people rooting for the country to fail because their hissy fits trump their alleged patriotism.

2thirdsrocks: “your terrorists loving Chicago thug president”

Can you explain to me exactly why President Obama is a “thug” president? In detail, please.

How could somebody who hired 60s radical Bill Ayers as the ghostwriter of their autobiography be good for America?

Bill Ayers even (kind of, maybe sarcastically) confessed to writing Obama’s book!

I’d like to stay and shoot the fish in the barrel, but work is calling my name. Will someone else please be kind enough to chew up and spit out the idiocracy during my abscence?

The world loves an affable dope. That is the underlying truth of the poll. The world can do whatever they chose because they know the only consequence is a stern letter from the First Tourist . Iran, Russia and China loves us. With Bambi in charge they have nothing to fear. A terrorist is flown back to Libya to a heroes welcome. An impotent community organizer stands idly by. Yes, they love us.

Maybe the question is why do liberals hate this country so much. For over 40 years you have denigrated the values, the institutions and the hard working people who sacrificed their lives so pompous liberals can belittle their lives.

And yes I will root for any failure of a government takeover of private industry, healthcare, nut-job czars and a hell-bent policy of bankrupting this country in the name of social justice. In case liberals haven’t gotten the memo you may have won the election but the world has moved on from the 1960s brain dead philosophy of wealth re-distribution. It has failed world wide. Since the MSM took the guided tour of Obama before the election it is only now that people find out what he believes and guess what- you lose ,they do not like what is being foisted on them! So in reality if you agree with Obama’s policies it is liberals who are indeed rooting for the failure of this country.

Your idiocy will be missed

The world loves an affable dope
… says the jerky dope.

terrorist is flown back to Libya to a heroes welcome
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Maybe we should have shot down the plane he was on.
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That’d show the world who’s powerful and who’s impotent.

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No Bambi should have given him a ride on Air Force 1 then brought Muammar al-Gaddafi right to the UN since we are best pals with the world now

Sebastian

Wow go lay down – you must have exhausted both brain cells for that witty retort

Yepp.
You want one? Must be hard to live without.
Cheers!

So I’m guessing W. wasn’t affable enough, huh? He certainly had the dopey part down pat.

I personally don’t care much for President Obama these days, but he is light years better than his predecessor. freeinpa and rustyreturns exemplify the type thick headed stupidity that this country can ill afford.

I guess regime-change in Scotland is the answer to all of our fears.

stuartzechman

No all our new friends have our backs. Probably explains none will take the folks at GITMO, or offer troops for Afghanistan or help us get the Olympics. THEY LOVE US NOW!

Well, at the risk of giving you a headache lurk, I’ll try. Just do a little research. Names like Ayers, rezko, Dorne, wright, and flager should keep you busy for a while. I would simply ask myself how a community organizer (codename for liberal activist) with approx. 140 days experience as senator, pops up out of nowhere and gets elected president. Remember that it took an unprecidented 650 million dollars to win him 53% of the vote. Not exactly a landslide. You want details, well so do I. Details about where all that money came from would be a start, details about how his fingerprints are all over acorn, yet he only recently “learned” they were even being investigated. Chicago(home of Al Capone) is the epitome of organized crime, “details” have always been scarce to non existant. Only those who bow at his altar dismiss this lack of “details”. I’m a republican, so you automatically assume that I worshipped at the altar of Bush/cheney. The fact is I questioned a multitude of they’re policies and decisions, and still do to this day. That’s the difference between me and you. I could give you so much more to chew on but I feel I’ve already wasted too much energy. You’re mind is made up, but you will soon see. And(not happily) I will be able to say I told you so.

I heard from Rush that ACORN was caught on undercover video selling guns to people who can’t pass background checks or something like that. I was washing the dishes and didn’t catch the whole story.
Does anyone what this is about?

My, my freeinpa, aren’t we a bit testy . . . . .

Far from hating the U.S., Liberals (and I am proud to call myself one, and no, I am not some sissy “Progressive”) love this country and other than economics, every positive movement in this country has been done by “Liberals”. Civil rights for African-Americans . . . . . Liberals. Equality for women . . . . . Liberals. What have Conservatives fought for? Segregation? Keeping women in the kitchen? It is funny but ideas which were considered “Liberal” 40 years ago, are embraced by Conservatives today.

The problem is that Conservatives today have abandoned their principles. Barry Goldwater would not recognize the Republican Party. It has been taken over by Christian Fundamentalists who was to use the Government to tell people how to live. Granted Liberals might want to go into my wallet, but Conservatives want to go into my bedroom! They want to tell me who I can have sex with, what type of sex I can have (Yes, my wife and I routinely break the laws of my home state! LOL). Frankly it is no one’s business! Even the sunny disposition of Ronald Reagan is gone. Everyone is so grumpy! As far as intellectuals, Conservatives have traded the brains of William Buckley for Rush Limbaugh!

Actually I am being nice for giving Conservatives a break on economics. Our current crisis is a result of the economic policies they have promoted for the past 40 years. In fact, when you throw in the S & L crisis, Conservatives don’t even do a good job on economics!

P.S. As far as an affable dope, he finished his term this past January 20.

Thanks jsfox. Reckon I can’t ask for more than that. My son would thank you too if he was able.

fhmadvocat

Civil rights for African-Americans EXCEPT CONSERVATIVE BLACKS. . . . . Liberals. Equality for women ESPECIALLY PAULA JONES, JUANITA BRODERICK , MARY JO KOPECHNE, OR MAYBE DAVE LETTERMAN’S STAFF. . . . . Liberals. What have Conservatives fought for? The RIGHT FOR YOU TO BE A POMPOUS ARROGANT A_S

Wow, where to start. For one thing, it was not long ago that the far left liberal extremists who frequent this site were screaming and yelling for Bush II’s head on a platter.
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Not only calling and rooting for his complete failure, but also denigrating him as “dispicable scum” or calling him “Hitler”. Now those same individuals are saying how it is so disrespectful for Republicans to call Obama out on his failed policies and inactions.
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Hypocrisy at it’s finest.
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So it is really,

“if I like this President, then you cannot disrespect him, but if I don’t like him then you can call him every name in the book and discredit him at every step of the way.”

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Respect however is a 2 way street. In order for you or your President that you love so much deserves respect, then you must first show that respect back.
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Or, as all Presidents serve at the will and pleasure of the majority of people, that President also will suffer from the same critisims for his failures. Respect must be earned, and Obama thus far falls far short of any respect I can give him at this time. Perhaps he will improve, but I will not hold my breath. He has already proven to waffle, lie and wiggle his way around the important issues. He has proven that he is not a President for ALL Americans, just the select few on the left that he feels he must pander to.
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I for one do not need my President to apologize for past events or decisions that have been made to those who do not live in my country. When those countries step up and do the things that are right for the world, then and only then will I agree to a President for appeasement or apology.
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You may have the United States ranked at #1 on this opinion survey, but what has it gotten us? Absolutely NOTHING.

hotbbq:

, but he is light years better than his predecessor.

Yes a Legend in his own mind and liberals Gee I am getting a tingle up my leg.

exemplify the type thick headed stupidity that this country can ill afford.

Probably explains why every policy Obama tries goes down in flames_ all us this headed stupidity

I feel so inferior not being born a whining arrogant pompous liberal hahahah I crack my self up!

Sorry fhmadvocat, but you need to check your facts. It was the republicans who dragged Johnson(democrat) kicking and screaming to the table to sign the civil rights act in’64. And lets not forget that Lincoln(republican) fought the dems and the whigs tooth and nail for the rights of the blacks. Did you know that MLK was a republican? Check it. The S&L crisis started with Carter(dem) stifled by Reagan(repub) and picked back up by Clinton. I could go on…..

In a crunch and without missing a beat, treacherous Mr Krauthammer would declare himself a liberal.

” … do (Americans) give a crap about … our temporary public employees? ..”

Yes, we do. That is why we take seriously our civic duty of going to the polls – at times in extreme weather – to elect them.
SZ, we care about those temporary positions as spelled our in our precious document we refer to as the American Constitution. You wouldn’t know anything about that, would you? And we pray for them and care lest any harm come to them.

Do you a clue about what Americans mean by “good citizenship and patriotism”?

SZ, any time you and Krauthammer feel an urge to bolt to a preferred land of your allegiances, you are welcome to do so pronto – and many of us will gladly provide a free ticket to get you and your brood to your nirvana.

—and by the way

[We, the good Americans, detest saboteurs and foreigners who would thrust themselves into our consciousness and parade around as more knowledgeable about America and what is good for us more us, the salt-of-the-earth the gentile rednecks ... And we detest the psyche war terrorists of questionable allegiances - the Goebbels's pillars in our MSM - who would destabilize us and hold us in doubt, insecurity and terror by artfully planting in us and our media suspicion against the good leaders we elect and our patriotic fellow Americans .. ]

jsfox-

I’ll second that.

“Since when do liberals give a crap about the use of sacred titles when speaking of our temporary public employees?”

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Ah, when they annointed him as the “Messiah”, and believe that everything he does or says as the gospel according to Sal Alinsky!
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Come on stuart, You know the vast majority of liberals believe that Barack Obama is the 2nd coming of all things liberal and progressive.
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Obama himself set this up when he compared himself to Abraham Lincoln every chance he got during the election.
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Come on stuart, get with the liberal program and bow to Obama like a good little liberal boy!!!

I am sure Bertha Lewis will sue them for illegal taping Oh wait its her organization.

Well then the film was edited

Don’t know pafro, but would it be a surprise if it were so? Don’t worry though. Obamo already said he wouldn’t take our guns, only that he would require licenses and insurance that few of us could afford. As an avid gun enthusiast, I’ve already noticed that ammo is in very short supply and has become a bit more expensive.

slowp-

Republicans don’t hate America. I’m not one myself, but because of where I go to college I’m surrounded by them. We disagree on nearly everything, but we all want what’s best for America, we just have a different idea of how to get there.

That said, there’s a small but noisy minority of “Republicans” like Boss Rush who care less about what they’re party’s supposed to stand for (limited government) than how they can used the party to manipulate the country into what they in their cynical ideology have decided it should be. I have a great respect for many Republicans, but I lost faith in their party leadership the instant Michael Steele apologized to Rush Limbaugh.

The word is “idiocy”. Idiocracy is a movie by Mike Judge.

The word is “idiocy”. “Idiocracy” is a dystopian comedy film by Mike Judge.

Inconvenient facts that don’t blend well with the liberals hateful diatribe. If you disagree with them you are an unpatriotic, racist dope. Obviously you missed the revisionist history class

” .. On the heels of a 100% perfect record of analyzing and predicting foreign policy outcomes, ..

Tell us about that – else, eh, hold your silence.

” … once again Charles Krauthammer has been proven omnipotent: ..”

Yeah.
O, heil!
Even the omniscient Allah cannot march his record.

Somehow Krauthammer’s (and SZ’s and crafty JK’s) long-running pervasive stance is that Israel can do no wrong. So we should leave our foreign policy up to Israel? And our tax-payer-enabled economy as well? And of course, whatever amounts of gentile-American-tax-payers’ dollars and accommodation Israel wants

(and in fact, virtually anything Israel wants – including the invasion of neighbouring lands on an orgy of gleefully and wantonly torturing, raping and slaughtering – Old-Testament-Jewish-mythology-style – of a few thousands of kids, their mothers and fathers)

Israel gets.

Would you and your distasteful coterie boldly chance to suggest that we should consider ours a de facto protectorate or colony .. ?

2/3rds rock manages to instantly erase 40 years of American history indluding the flocking of Dixiecrats to the Republican party where they remain to this day.
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B+ for effort though…..

Ain’t wise to draw conclusions from yourself dude. It’s you rw folks who’re hating inconvenient facts all the time. But don’t worry, nobody’s taking that monopoly away from you.

“it was not long ago that the far left liberal extremists who frequent this site were screaming and yelling for Bush II’s head on a platter.”

Not long ago (key words)—meaning after 8 years of his presidency which was fraught with mistakes (wmd’s), poor leadership (iraq), and bad judgment (katrina). It’s a false equivalency for republicans to be doing the same in less than a year of Obama’s presidency. He hasn’t accomplished much yet and what he has accomplished has not yet had time to show results worthy of critique.

cfukara:

In a crunch and without missing a beat, treacherous Mr Krauthammer would declare himself a liberal.

That’s incoherent.

” … do (Americans) give a crap about … our temporary public employees? ..”
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Yes, we do. That is why we take seriously our civic duty of going to the polls – at times in extreme weather – to elect them.

That’s dishonest.
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The full quote (right there for everyone to read above) is “Since when do liberals give a crap about the use of sacred titles when speaking of our temporary public employees?
“, not some bizarre claim about how Americans don’t care about who/what we elect. How Coulter of you.

…we care about those temporary positions as spelled our in our precious document we refer to as the American Constitution. You wouldn’t know anything about that, would you?

That’s a rhetorical question.

And we pray for them and care lest any harm come to them.
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Do you a clue about what Americans mean by “good citizenship and patriotism”?

Why don’t we ask some other Constitution-hating, un-patriotic guy? http://tinyurl.com/k82bj

[George] Washington attended carefully to the pomp and ceremony of office, making sure that the titles and trappings were suitably republican and never emulated European royal courts. To that end, he preferred the title “Mr. President” to the more majestic names suggested.

The suggestion here isn’t that citizens should be sufficiently pious enough with respect to “our leaders“, it’s the opposite thought.
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Guys like Washington wanted to make certain that the Presidency would continue to be a temporary office held by fellow citizens, and not become the titled (and entitled) seat of an aristocratic elite:

Washington reluctantly served a second term as president. He refused to run for a third, establishing the customary policy of a maximum of two terms for a president which later became law by the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution.[44]

When we liberals insist that the trappings and formalities of “leadership” be piously observed outside of specific, official rituals, we estrange ourselves from the Constitution, Enlightenment-Era revolutionary goals, the Founders’ conceptions of citizenship and the state, and…liberalism.
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Yes, to answer your next rhetorical question, I have “a clue about what Americans mean by “good citizenship and patriotism”?“, we mean the opposite of rightist, pseudo-monarchist orthodoxy.

SZ, any time you and Krauthammer feel an urge to bolt to a preferred land of your allegiances, you are welcome to do so pronto – and many of us will gladly provide a free ticket to get you and your brood to your nirvana.

That’s a jackasses’ comment, if I’ve ever read one.
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Did you not read my commentary below in which I –gasp– employed the stark fist of sarcasm in describing Krauthammer’s credibility-destroying record of overwhelming wrongness about everything?
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Are you truly as illiterate as this last spasm of gibberish

…what is good for us more us, the salt-of-the-earth the gentile rednecks … And we detest the psyche war terrorists…

suggests, cfukara?
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Is that why you couldn’t manage to read this http://tinyurl.com/yb69bph without choking on whatever dullard’s bile your febrile brain hiccuped into commentary?
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In light of your generous offer to deport Krauthammer and I to Zionist paradise on earth, how about entertaining this suggestion:
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Why don’t you go ahead and join the Palinist, creationist, know-nothing, imbecile faction of the rightist movement, cfukara, so that we actual liberals can have an easier time defeating them when Krauthammer inevitably allies himself with the tent-revivalists in the GOP come 2012?
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You could be truly helpful to our cause making similar noises over in that camp, cfukara –thanks so much in advance for switching sides.

” .. I’m a republican, and I love America enough to die for her. ..”

If you were caught up in a civil war, say in the Congo, you’d most likely die too – lovingly or not. Perhaps we shouldn’t rush to claim that one side in America’s civil war was more patriotic than the other.

” .. My son( who is finishing his first tour in Afganistan) is also a republican. … “

Would it matter if he is a Democrat or, eh, Catholic?

“Dying for country” at the hands of powerful opponents is not the primary selling point when recruiting citizens to join the armed forces.
Old soldiers tell us that young men join the armed forces charmed by the macho promise of domination and adventure, a chance to fly/control powerful machines and weapons of destruction AND the dream of visiting exotic foreign lands.
Once in there, getting out or dissertion is out of the question – even if one gets second thoughts soon after signing on.
And once the battle is joined, abject fear – indeed terror – rules the day. Running away from battle is out of the question – and the fear of dying rules our actions and instinctive survival responses …

Well now that you mention it Paul, when johnson signed the papers, he lamented “our party will lose the south for at least a generation”. Take heart though, with the help of Acorn, you got a little bit of it back this past election. Many thanks for the B+.

In regards to freeinpa’s most recent post:

Good. God. It’s like every far-right buzzword, ad-hominem attack and de rigeur denial of reality was chewed up by and angry, sentence-structure challenged bear, then vomited up into a grotesque pile for all to read.

Oh wait, I figured it out. IT was some rednecks at gunshows selling guns to people who claimed they couldn’t pass background checks.
That ammo thing is a supply and demand issue. I sure wish I had bought some ammo stock, I will surely apply this lesson the next time a black man gets elected president.

“Is Michael Scherer–Gasp!-Good for America?”

Now there’s something to mull, ladies, gents.

And, yo, SZ, the day you can reasonably explain WTF C-Fuk is talking about is the day you should waste your time responding to his ramblings. I think Cliff called it “sideways speak.” I mean, JFC, he’s saying you and JK and CK are in league? LOL. We may not be dealing with a barrister-matriarch here but I reckon he’s missing a wingnut or two.

Michael, off thread but a tip.

Today, 30 Republican senators voted that Jamie Leigh Jones, the woman drugged, gang-raped and imprisoned by her fellow co-workers at KBR in Iraq, should NOT have recourse to the courts to sue KBR and the men who raped her. (since the Justice Department refused to bring charges and the arbitration is still not complete after FOUR YEARS, these are still “alleged” crimes, but please note that after the damage of the vaginal and anal rapes, Ms. Jones had to have reconstructive surgery).

According to the Republicans, she should keep her claim confidential and submit it to binding arbritration.

All female Republican Senators broke with their party leadership, even Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

What are these 30 idiots thinking? Can you ask Mitch McConnell, John McCain or Lindsay Graham, Michael?

Here’s a coupla links. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00308
It’s worth checking out KBR’s attorney defend the arbitration process as a “day in court” to Senator Franken.
http://www.eschatonblog.com/

And lets not forget that Lincoln(republican) fought the dems and the whigs tooth and nail for the rights of the blacks. Did you know that MLK was a republican?
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well well well. Another conservative who can’t look beyond party labels. At the time of Lincoln, the republicans where concentrated in northern urban areas, and they where the liberals. Party labels and positions shifted after the 1964 CRA. So, while you may technically be correct in claiming that Lincoln was a republican, he was also a liberal by the standards of the time, whose support was in areas that have been and still are generally liberal. Pulling up Lincoln or MLK just demonstrates that you’re ignorant of history. But hey, who needs history when you have party lkeader to tell you how to think.

Here you go dunedweller, enjoy!!
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Honestly, who really really cares what the ranking is on these lists and surveys. It was clear from the beginning that Obama was no bull in a China shop in the “wild wild west” like manner of the Bush Administration. If other countries noticed, fantastic and if they did not, “Oh well”!

Here at home, so much is askew. I would be much happier to read that the Blue dog democrats have decided to toe the party line in this Healthcare debate. “Sigh* …

LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/

Ayers is certainly enjoying himself at the teabaggers and assorted fool’s expense. It doesn’t take much to get them to jump — Hey, guess what I just found in my kitchen – it’s Barack Obama’s “real” Birth Certificate. heh.

I’ve thought of myself as “liberal for sixty years and for me the use of a persons formal title has everything to do with showing respect for a fellow human being in honest discourse, and nothing to do with acquiescence to power. This has exactly zero to do with my place on the political spectrum

CFUKARA @ 4:24 PM Your post is completely incoherent.

Al Capone lived in Chicago, Barak Obama lived in chicago. How’s them for details. I rest my case.

freeinpa:
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What does the release of a Libyan terrorist under Scottish authority due to Scottish law have anything to do with Obama?

“A terrorist returns to Libya to a hero’s welcome.” Substitute San Diego for Libya and you have the crew of the Vincennes in a nutshell.

2thirdsrock appears to love America, yet uses the term “Chicago” in a derogatory way. Are there any other parts of America you hate, 2thirds rock? Or do you just love everywhere else except Chicago?

Since it’s all about truth and morality, it’s no surprise that establishment journalists are –GASP!- flummoxed by it. The election of an African-American to the highest office of the land, along with the outright popular rejection of the right-wing authoritarian psychopathology of the past eight years, was a great moral victory for the country. That is all.

My! Tales of your sordid life.
Is that as “completely incoherent” as you find, say, “String Theory”?
You may try here before you give up on humanity …

theotherjimmyo…:
I live in USA. I am a nice guy.
You live in USA. You are a nasty creep.
How’s that for details? I rest my case.

They don’t, and that’s as intellectually lazy as some of the things you guys crow about S.P. about. Using your logic, libs hated the country for the past 4 years because they didn’t support his policies and even actively tried to stop them. To further your logic, Moveon.org and CodePink must REALLLY hate this country.

You are also conveniently leaving out the part where what is a “liberal” today would in NO way pass for a “liberal” during the times of Lincoln as you suggest.

Go ahead, play the race card. Don’t let it stop you that the exact same thing happens EVERY time a more liberal president is elected that people fear will attempt to intrude on their right to keep and bear arms.

@freeinpa

I’d like to rebuke you again, but I can’t understand what you wrote. I’m not fluent in schizophrenic.

The whole world knows:

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/the-rest-is-silence/

I think you have misread the tea leaves. “the popular rejection of Bush II’s PSUEDO-right-wing …..” would be more accurate. It’s also probably a lot more accurate to view it as a rejection of Bush himself becaue he strayed FAR from the right-wing ideaology. If you’ve read enough (you may have, I don’t know), you will be aware that MANY conservatives were unhappy with Bush’s performance in office. I’m Libertarian, not Repub, and for what it’s worth, I think he did a good job keeping us safe from attack and I have a LOT of problems with some of his judicial ideas and his handling of the economy. Don’t be surprised if a similar backlash follows BO whether it be in 3+ or 7+ years.

While true, liberal and conservative are relative terms. It’s true that liberals today don’t much resemble the liberals of Lincoln’s time, the demographics and general political patterns haven’t shifted much. Party labels and positions may change, but that’s about it. And I notice that you still can’t address the main issue, which was the insinuation that, since Lincon and MLK were republicans, that the modern party somehow is interested in rights.

To paraphrase Inigo Montoya,

“Talking smack. I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.”

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smack+talk

kind of a Rove-rapping moment, Michael.

mmh!

Presumably, this creep has not read, and has no idea about what is contained in, “cfukara” posts. Yet he is all full of fury and pious wisdom against whatever is in “cfukara” posts he hasn’t read.
He campaigns viciously against “cfukara” and urges others to do likewise. He even has a role model, a radio-show-host-type wiseguy Cliff, telling him what he should think about “cfukara”.

Soon he will be shouting “You lie!”

Where have we seen that spectacle!

Behold! Yet another the town-HOLE.

Barack Obama is good for America as far as America wants him to be good for her. This is the case of any president anywhere else. Unfortunately, America, for the last 100 years is locked in a dead-end situation along with two dysfunctional party lines working on outdated concepts that are not longer functional, so people feel frustrated trying to make things work within this outdated framework. This is tantamount to a school bus built to carry 30 children that now it has to carry 100 children. Unless America realizes that and do something about it, no president, regardless of qualifications, smarts and the like, would be able to continue fulfilling the so-called American Dream. The US Constitution is the best piece of legislation ever written by any society, yet to make it functional nowadays is a real challenge.