Re: Chicago, Obama, Family and Friends Lose First Round Olympic Vote

“One question is whether this does anything to tarnish Valerie Jarrett’s unique role as Obama’s wise voice of counsel.”
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Seriously, who the f**k is asking that question Amy? Who? Give me a name of a specific individual who is wondering about Jarrett’s role.

Amy Sullivan:

There will be a fair bit of second-guessing and recriminations to come…

From whom, exactly?

First of all, it is very unfair to fault Obama for making a personal appeal. He would have been faulted either way, and he tried to get the Olympics. So he erred on the side of trying–can’t fault him for that.
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Second of all, his presentation can be faulted. He was somewhat arrogant. The reference to his election being for the world was, um, a little overblown. A little more humility would have been better.
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Third of all, his shots at Bush were just over the top. I doubt that had anything to do with the loss, but it doesn’t speak well of Obama that he would insult pre-Obama America.
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Fourth of all, I think the stomping death really didn’t help. Moreover, Chicago’s lukewarm citizenry didn’t either.

Axelrod’s sour grapes http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/02/AR2009100202779.html?hpid=topnews

really don’t help us in 2020.

Just when you think Michael can’t be outdone in vapidity, Amy comes in and hits the home run.

Didn’t you mean Grand Slam? Evidently, that little stint in the Vatican dungeon for rehab produced fleeeting results at best.

I wish the bloggers here would learn to update to the first post on topics and provide their own thoughts that way. Maybe then we could keep the stupdity to level one around here. Good lord.

Et tu Amy?

Oy! What’s next? JNS coming on and telling us that Rahm’s head is on the chopping block because of this anticipated (but still horrible!) Olympic Bid Shame? Pull your head out of your keister, Amy… and look at what you’re writing, before you post this kind of ridiculousness.

And why is Valerie Jarrett so “wise”?

Jarrett was involved? No wonder Chicago lost. She’s a known socialist. That would be intolerable to the IOC. If there is one thing that the Olympics are not about it is people joining together and individually sacrificing for a shared, community goal.

OT: But this is some funny a@@ writing:
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Perhaps the most comprehensive list of GOP health proposals is in the “Republican Solutions Handbook” assembled by the House Republican Conference, although it covers only one page.
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jCRbX9YKvwqqiU1MdqAoVxMmo_wgD9B2QT7G0

stuart says:

“From whom, exactly?”

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You actually mean to ask that questions, stuart?
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My answer to you is, the American tax-payer, American voters, American people in general who are asking why he spent millions of tax payer dollars and for our environmental friends, over a million pounds of carbon spewed into the atmosphere.
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We are going to be charged to the hilt for Obama’s so-called “Cap and Trade” bill, our electric bills going up to potentially a thousand dollars a month, for what purpose?
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So Obama and Michelle can jet-set all over the world? So they can try to pick up a lucrative deal for their corrupt Chicago friends?
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Come on stuart, I know you are smarter than this!
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The economy is not improving. Job losses are going back up, not down. The War in Afghanistan is a complete failure, and he needs to “take time to study the strategy”?
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It really looks bad on his part, stuart. REALLY BAD

Trolling. This is a perfect example of what a TROLL does to try to go off-topic. Good try gysgt.

I don’t mean to pile on but where do you bloggers get your ideas? This is unbelievable dribble. Think about this for a moment: the unemployment rate for the US has just been reported to be a shade south of 10 percent. You are the president and you hear there might be the chance to bring the Olympics to a US city and all it takes is an overnight trip. Yes, you could lose, but what if you win…think about the 100s of millions of constructions jobs it will bring to the Midwest, albeit only for a 4 to 6 years period. What would be the smart thing to do? That you guys can’t even see that side of this thing just amazes me. Obama would have been stupid not to give it a shot.

Tee heee!

But you see it’s all about politics, not issues. That’s where the village gets the ideas.

Why is this angle on the host bid for the Olympics being played?

Oh, right – it’s the ‘Obama-is-a-failure’ schtick. Again.

More media-generated tut-tutting and pearl-clutching. Again.

More right-wing giggling and mockery of efforts to do something good for the country. Again.

OH NOEZ!!!! Chicago lost the bid!! Obama’s president is DOOOOMED I tell ya!! The village is full of idiots as usual. Healthcare, Afghanistan and Iran all pale in comparison to this. He should just resign now and let McCain take over. Do you people that live and work inside the politics bubble ever step back and get a big picture? EVER? You are the reason the nation is getting more and more stupid with each passing year. Seriously.

Apparently you missed this post by Karen Tumulty, zanaab.
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“Aunt Judy”?: The NYT Looks At The John Ensign Affair

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http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/10/01/aunt-judy-the-nyt-looks-at-the-john-ensign-affair/#comments
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This is actually one of the longest posts from Karen that I have seen her write on this blog.
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All is fair and balanced, don’t you think???
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Or, you may be right. Issues should be what everyone, including the MSM, should be concerned about. Not TABLOID journalism. That belongs on sites like the Huffington Post!!
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Maybe Karen is writing these types of blogs in hopes of moving over to Huffington Post. I wouldn’t be surprised.

This is actually for @rustyreturns:

1. This all started when Bush came into office. They now call is the lost decade because 1.3 million jobs were lost while he was president.

2. Stepping back to assess a strategy before implementing a knee jerk reaction would only look bad to the GOP because they always go with their “gut”. And it’s worked so well. See number 1 above and Katrina, and Iraq and Jack Abramoff and Terri Shiavo.

3. And no rusty, I don’t think you’re smart enough to know better because clearly you’re riding the Palin express to disaster.

I know djshay, it must really SUCK badly, when you had ALL YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS planted squarely in Obama’s lap.
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You are very disappointed as your should be that the “Change we can believe in”, is nothing more than “Politics as usual” from Obama.
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I am disillusioned by Obama as well, and I didn’t even vote for the nutball of a President with no experience, no judgment skills, absolutely no reason what-so-ever to have been elected as President of the United States.
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Hell even Mickey Mouse could have figured out that this was the stupidest stunt anyone could have made flying to Copenhagen to get simply beat down like this.
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How dare those Danes do this to this Messiah? This great great Man. Our President for God’s sake. How dare they turn him down???
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I just can’t imagine someone like yourself who put everything they had into getting this IDIOT elected as President, and then to be so let down like this.

Actually, no. Jeez, you guys need to get outside the bubble a bit. I’m sure all of DC is simply BREATHLESS with Obama’s imminent downfall, but for the rest of the country this is a big yawn. I’m sure Chicagoans are very disappointed, but the rest of us? not so much.

As for Obama’s involvement, I put it under the category of “can’t hurt, might help.”

@Rusty.

Did you even read my post? No, just another knee jerk reaction like the drooling neanderthalish right is certain to do every time they see the name Obama. People like you are the reason the rest of the world thinks this country is full of backwards, evolution denying hicks.

Amy is asking! (feh)

Amy, as I told MS in his post before yours, give it a rest. Obama was a very, very small player in this whole bidding game.

The success or failure of the bid could never be appropriately attributed to him, so why you posted such inane questioning is beyond me. It’s a fun quarterbacking game for all of you to be playing, but really, get grounded in some reality about how these decisions are made and quit attributing authority and power to our President for situations in which at best, he has a modicum of influence.

It is simply insulting to see the media hyperventilate about all of this today, and to see so many pundits on the right ecstatic in the fact that the nation they supposedly love so much was not selected to play big again on the world stage. Did they forget that Chicago is a part of America and Rio isn’t?

Instead of having Michelle “For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country” Obama join him and speak to the Olympic Committee, maybe the clueless, post-American Obama should have taken his dearest Chicago friends, to wit: Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers and Tony Rezko?

Wow, Amy, you guys did enough for Glenn Beck with that cover. Do you have to take up his character assassination campaigns as well?

Remember, if you help ruin Valerie Jarrett’s career, the benefit won’t be to you – it will be to Glenn Beck.

Okay Amy, now where’s the story on how conservatives hate America so much they’re cheering the fact that America lost the Olympic bid?

Seems like a pretty big story to me. They hate Obama so much that they’ll actually root for America to lose. What, not sexy enough for you?

hate to disagree with ya, rusty, but if there were ethics violations, then it should be covered.

I’ll leave the kick-the-messenger politics aside and ponder the economics. A Chicago Games would’ve created lots of jobs, a huge plus in a recession. So now that Rio gets the jobs, I’m rooting for the big US sponsors like Coke and McDonalds to pull back their $. Way back. Let Petrobras sponsor the games. Just sponsor the USOC and OUR athletes, but not a cent more. And may the US teevee networks lowball their bids too. Let’s make the IOC leave a LOT of cash on the table. Congrads and good luck, Rio. Now pay for it yourself.

You and I are going to be waiting a long time for the “Why Do Republicans Hate Americans” story from the likes of Time Magazine and Amy Sullivan.
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See, for people like Amy, she IS America. The rest of us: the people who are brown, or black, or yellow, or non-religious, or simply Democratic voters, are NOT Americans. In Amy’s world the only real Americans are white Republicans like Beck or Newt.
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We are a lot more likely to get the “Republicans are Right to Hate People Who Aren’t Like Them” story. Wait, that was last week’s celebration of Glenn Beck.

It is us against people like Amy and rustyreturns. The funny thing is that people like Amy don’t realize that the GOP base like Amy would put every professional journalist, liberal, and homosexual in America up against the wall if they could.

Why do Republicans hate America so much?

@Rusty.

Did you even read my post?

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Actually, no I did not read your post, at least most of it. As soon as I read your only defense was the typical Obama Administration’s tactic to “blame everything on Bush”, I tossed it as just more liberal garbage from people who cannot defend their own mistakes without first pointing out and taking responsibility for their own mistakes.
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I was thinking the same thing. Take away the 2+ billion we pay to broadcast the games and there’s no way the Olympics come anywhere close to breaking even. I’m not interested in watching people play games for a living when I have to work. If I want to watch someone sweat I’ll pay someone to fly a black helicopter over one of my redneck buddy’s house.

And I, personally, hate having old posts updated rather than adding a new post.

It appears that NBC’s Rowdy Gaines is the first leftist loon to blame the Olympic Committee’s decision to reject Obama, Oprah and Chicago on … (wait) … (wait) … BUSH!

“‘I’m still in a state of shock. I can’t believe we couldn’t get past the first round. I still thought the (Chicago) bid overall was the best,’ said three-time Olympic gold medalist swimmer Ambrose ‘Rowdy’ Gaines.”

“‘Maybe there is some hangover from politics, from the last eight years,’ Gaines said.” http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.3db3f89a40686ace9002f70ca613746c.91&show_article=1

This is just wrong. The IOC wanted the US taxpayer to subsidize these games and Obama said no, he was going to do it with Chicago’s infrastructure and private funding. That’s what happened here. It’s not a blunder, it’s a disagreement.

Another view: do foreigners really want to go through our immigration hassles to attend the Olympics here? Some delegates had this at the back of their minds when deciding to give the US a pass. A former Indian now US citizen in our office offered this thought.

…hopefully nobody shoots at the helicopters or points lasers, but even with this loss I’ll admit to watching beach volleyball. Both the US and Brazil are among the best (playing and looking). But a McDonalds pullback would be sweet given its Chicago roots. Other countries offer athletes worth watching, literally, such as Paraguay’s javelin thrower Leryn Franco.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=leryn+franco&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

From the AP: “Rio spoke to IOC members’ consciences: the city argued that it was simply unfair that South America has never hosted the games, while Europe, Asia and North America have done so repeatedly.”

Seriously, rich nations can take the occasional Olympics off, can’t they? Though I’d admit “consciences” is a bit of a stretch. SLC wasn’t the only tainted procurement. I was in Beijing when they were sealing the deal and talk was rampant of bribes and hookers.

Looking forward to the article about how bad this was for the King of Spain who went to Copenhagen and spoke on behalf of Madrid.

Why would the IOC want to risk making a target of the Games in a country that by refusing to investigate the September 11 “event” invites a future one?

The President’s time would have been better spent meeting with this man at the University of Copenhagen:

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/the-rest-is-silence/

” … one pretty big judgment call she got wrong. ..”

1)”big judgment call”? Amy, you must be thinking small – AGAIN.
2) “she got wrong” Should we be scared of losing a bet or competition? Did Hillary make a bad judgment call when she decided to seek the POTUS? Should Hillary be stigmatized for daring?
[For it is said, "Faint heart never won the fair coquette."
OR "A soul afraid of dying never learns to live."]

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Some people in Chicago campaigned against the games being held there.
Amazing! How much would the games have poured into the city and the nation? Cheap change? No wonder the nay-nuts seemed to have the support of the happy idiots at FOX.

Republicans, Independents, and Moderate Democrats love their country. It is the Liberal- Progressives that are too often demonizing America. I am a 70 year old Navy Veteran and I have traveled the world from Africa to Europe to Asia and there is no country in the world that treats its citizens better the the USA. Anyone who is willing to work hard in the USA can achieve success. Immigrants have been proving this for hundreds of years.
The question is why are immigrants successful when approx 20% of Americans do not achieve success? Why does an immigrant from Haiti come to America, work 2 jobs and their family achieves a middle class or higher standard of living within one generation?
The reasons are simple. Liberal – Progressive programs of the past have caused a break down of the families of many of our poor citizens and have destroyed the work ethics necessary to achieve success.
These Americans will achieve success when Liberal – Progressives stop using and abusing them.

And Rustyreturns

Read 18.3

Plain & simple: Rooting against Obama = rooting against the USA.

Read 18.2

3xfire3:
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Read what you wrote in 18.2 and couldn’t agree more with you. Very good!
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I hope you can bring your ideas, feelings and comments to this site as well. It would be nice to have a like minded individual to discuss things with here, who is not so far into the Progressive – Liberal agenda that they cannot carry on a rational discussion.