In the Arena

Policy v. Power

David Broder has a very strange column today, praising a paper by the conservative scholar William Schambra in which the author criticizes Barack Obama for being interested in…policy. This is something I’ve noticed over the past twenty years: the Republicans–some of whom used to give a good faith effort to figuring out how best to govern–have lost all interest in policy. They care about power, and are willing to do just about anything to retain or gain it.

The argument against policy is that it’s…just…too…hard. Presidents like Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama believe in the possibility of rational public responses to chronic problems like health care or climate change. Their dreams are led astray by the realities of politics–lobbyists and craven pols who impose the fatally flawed as the enemy of the good. This is an argument neither new nor coherent.

For starters, this is a startling betrayal of Broder’s own lifelong devotion to policy. It is also a cheesy knock on the liberal project–the belief that government activism can improve the lives of individuals in a society, a belief that stands as one of the essential lessons of 20th century American public life. But it’s also just sloppy thinking.

Notice the visions Broder leaves out: Dwight Eisenhower and the interstate highway system; Lyndon Johnson–civil rights legislation, Medicare and Medicaid; Richard Nixon–the Environmental Protection Agency, universal health care (blocked, foolishly, by Democrats) and a host of other social programs. Ronald Reagan–tax reform and simplification; George H.W. Bush–clean air and water legislation, the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Yes, it is possible for liberals to go too utopian, to lose sight of the importance of private entrepreneuralism, to be deluded into believing that government can impose perfect justice and perfect order. But neither Clinton nor Obama–moderate liberals, at best–seem even vaguely utopian.

The real question is this: if liberals are in favor of policy solutions to chronic societal problems, what are conservatives for? The conservatives I’ve admired understand the we have a collective responsibility for our society’s welfare, but understand the limits of that responsibility. They make creative suggestions about how to bring the realities of the market–principles like competition–to public policy. (For example, the notion of an individual health care mandate rather than an employer-provided system originated in the Heritage Foundation–it is hilarious to see the nitwit Chuck Grassley deride it as liberalism gone amok now, after he supported it a few months ago.)

It’s not liberals who have an existential problem right now. It is conservatives, who believe in nothing, it seems, but winning…and winning at all costs, even at the expense of truth, civility and honor.

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  • michaelfury

    For the sake of “truth, civility and honor”, why not encourage your fellow columnists to discuss this event in New York, Mr. Klein?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/walk-the-walk/

  • stuartzechman

    Joe Klein:

    The real question is this: if liberals are in favor of policy solutions to chronic societal problems, what are conservatives for?

    Actually, the real question is this: if liberals are in favor of policy solutions to chronic societal problems, then what are centrists for?

  • Paul-no not that one

    It’s been a long time that reading The Dean hasn’t made me sad. Like visiting an (incredibly) old folks home.

    His take on the policy success or failures of the Clinton presidency is telling of his mind set.

    Of course Broder’s classic column on how Washington works had this-

    “As strange as it sounds, President Bush may be poised for a political comeback” … By David S. Broder. Friday, February 16, 2007

    I’m not sure why this column strikes you as out of character for Broder.

  • nflfoghorn

    Ostensibly, to worry about too much change at one time and too much cost [although war, I'm guessing, is off the table].

  • nflfoghorn

    “As strange as it sounds, President Bush may be poised for a political comeback…”

    That was strange, yep.

  • pafro

    I will note that you offer zero examples of Broder’s “devotion” to policy.
    This is a guy who warned against impeaching Nixon and now lies and claims he had no problem with impeachment. http://is.gd/3DrOV He is a lying liar whose only devotion is to having the Joe Klein’s of the world continue to pretend he is sagely or prescient or profound when in reality he is a fool with a worn-out 1970′s-era shtick of cutting the baby in half and processing it into bipartisan cocktail weenies that all can enjoy.

  • tstar3

    I think the problem Joe is that everyone has come to see politics as a sport- somthing that can be won or lost. And with cable news scoring the game as if it were a boxing match- I can’t blame them. I just think the entire system is developed to not change but maintain the status quo- and its not until something like 9/11 or TARP happens that people start to “do” something- but unfortunately politicians in D.C were not used to it- so they bungled their response to 9/11 and TARP. So, when their is no “crisis” that the stock market doesnt tell them about or no planes are going into building- they see no reason in changing…i.e the republicans lets slow down lets wait thing- er, which starting point are we waiting from Clinton? Nixon? Roosevelt?…And just like trying to get some kind of regulation where the floor doesnt fall from underneath us- no one wants to do financial regulation because the stock market has not dropped 1000 pts. Its pathetic actually, they all know its a game- the T.V folks, the pundits, the writers, the politicans- the only one who doesnt is the riled up conservative w/o a job getting on a plane from Tenn to go to a tea party in D.C or the Dailykos reader who thinks Obama is not moving quickly on gay rights, gitmo, renditions, etc…Its all a game..and usually you are the basketball, baseball, hockey puck- what have you:(

  • rose83

    Joe, Thanks for linking to this article. I recommend everyone here at least glance at it, since you were unable to capture the full force of its pessimism and what that says about the right.

    In light of this and similar passages – Schambra’s essay anticipated exactly what is happening right now on health care. Obama, budget director Peter Orszag and health czar Nancy-Ann DeParle grasp the intricacies of the health care system as well as any three humans, and they could write a law to make it far more efficient – the logical conclusion to draw from Schambra’s and Broder’s arguments is that the constitution needs to be disregarded and something closer to a dictatorship put in its place. It’s easy to see how when the Bush Administration faced a challenge that could not reasonably be avoided – terrorism – the right embraced an extreme expansion of executive power that was inconsistent with the Constitution.

  • grape_crush

    Broder’s next column: “Dictatorships Are More Efficient at Policymaking”

  • deconstructiva

    Where’s Jack Kemp when the conservatives need him? Or did they ever listen when he was still around? Bush #1 didn’t.
    nice tribute w/ return to “party of lincoln” ideals – http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090518/nichols2

  • stuartzechman

    The centrists all having problems with the cheapest solutions to the looming/current health care inflation crisis, it’s hard to take their “concerns” about costs seriously.
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    “Costs” seems to be New Democrat/centrist code for “keep the existing players/corporatist technocracy upon whom we depend for campaign largesse in lieu of real popular support”.
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    “Costs” doesn’t seem to have any relationship to the ( US Dept. of Health and Human Services http://tinyurl.com/rcru3c ) $7,421 per person cost of health care in America, when that term issues from the duplicitous mouths of rabid ideological centrists in the press corps and in the Senate:

    http://tinyurl.com/y9muy6r
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    The New Democrat Coalition was founded in 1997 by Representatives Cal Dooley (California), Jim Moran (Virginia) and Timothy J. Roemer (Indiana) as a congressional affiliate of the avowedly centrist Democratic Leadership Council, whose members, including former President Bill Clinton, call themselves “New Democrats.”
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    The Senate New Democrat Coalition was founded in the spring of 2000 by Senators Evan Bayh (Indiana), Bob Graham (Florida), Mary Landrieu (Louisiana), Joe Lieberman (Connecticut), and Blanche Lincoln (Arkansas).[2]

    Those names sound familiar, don’t they?
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    The centrists love to call themselves “moderates”, but that’s another lie. Evan Bayh isn’t a “moderate liberal”, he’s a radical centrist.
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    Can anyone honestly say with a straight face that Joe Lieberman is a “moderate liberal”? Of course not, because the radical ideology to which people like Lieberman and the New Democrats rigidly adhere is centrism –not conservatism and not liberalism at all.
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    When centrists intone gravely about “costs”, we would do well to remember the rank dishonesty that their ideology demands, and with which they conduct themselves on a daily basis in the Beltway.

  • 53_3

    You beat me to it on the costs, but it should also be added that both the center and the right put the deficits and the pre-Obama Bernanke bailouts on “relentlessly ignore”.
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    Never mind that when it’s all toted up, it’s around $2T for the Obama administration but around $11.5T for Bush.
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    Most of the debt they bitterly complain about and characterise as being passed “to our childern”, is debt of their own making!

  • rustyreturns

    “Schambra sees this as evidence that “Obama is emphatically a ‘policy approach’ president. For him, governing means not just addressing discrete challenges as they arise, but formulating comprehensive policies aimed at giving large social systems — and indeed society itself — more rational and coherent forms and functions. In this view, the long-term, systemic problems of health care, education, and the environment cannot be solved in small pieces. They must be taken on in whole.”

    He traces the roots of this approach back to the progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, when rapid social and economic change created a politics dominated by interest-group struggles. The progressives believed that the cure lay in applying the new wisdom of the social sciences to the art of government, an approach where facts would heal the clash of ideologies and narrow constituencies.

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    The problem with Progressives, either on the right or left: Liberal or Conservative, are simply you cannot legislate “social” programs or more importantly, individual behaviors in a democratic, capitalist type of government.
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    Sustaining social programs is a very costly on the government, more importantly on the tax payers. You are simply trying to meld two different types of economic theories into one.
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    Socialism and Capitalism are at polar opposites of each other. Just like a magnet, opposites will attract to each other, but the two positively charged poles will repel them. It is a constant struggle to “meld” these two economic basics.
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    In social programs like Education, Healthcare and the Environment we see this happening. In a capitalist economic system you have people who can afford better Education, better Healthcare and cleaner Environments. But, with Socialism or a neo-socialist government, the attempt is to give more to the poor through re-distribution. Rather than educating the poor so they can get better paying jobs we enable them to continue their old habits and behaviors, and just give them money through social welfare programs. The poor ultimately suffer and continue to be at the bottom of the rung on the ladder to success. Rich people get richer and the poor get more poor. Eventually the system fails, and collapses.
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    The Progressive ideals to be “fair” and “provide for” social programs is always doomed for failure. Simply because the individual in that system will never learn how to succeed.
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    If you give a Man fruits and vegetables from your garden, he may not starve. But, if you teach him how to plant a garden and grow his own vegetables, then he can feed his whole family.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Al least we know what a “centrist” means when they refer to extremists on the Left now. Those are people who rely on reason when trying to solve problems. Centrism must be half way between reason and the opposite of reason.

  • southernbell49

    Great post, Joe. Broder, not so much. In fact, I never read Broder unless he’s linked somewhere else because he has nothing interesting to say.

    And to lump Carter in with Clinton is ridiculous. Clinton failed on health-care reform but he had many other policy successes. Certainly Clinton was more successful than Bush Jr.

  • nflfoghorn

    “Certainly Clinton was more successful than Bush Jr.”

    Especially at scoring….

  • http://fourlegsrgood.wordpress.com fourlegsgood

    Time for Broder to retire. Notice in his column he make reference to Obama’s education at “elite” schools.

    In Broder’s mind that makes Obama not only an elitist, but an overly ambitious one.

    “How dare that uppity elitist guy from Chicago think he can change the world? Who does he think he is?”

    Feh. Time for Broder to go. He hasn’t had anything pertinent to say in years.

  • formerlyjames

    “Socialism and Capitalism are at polar opposites of each other.”

    rusty, few no doubt would challenge your assertion on the face of it, but China is giving it a go, aren’t they?

  • formerlyjames

    Policy schmolicy. Klein describes the piece as “strange”. I would extend that to empty, stupid, meaningless. I almost stopped reading when the advances of the progressive era at the turn of the century were dismissed as nothing but special interests at play. Yeah, special interests like fair labor and piddlin things like food for everybody.

    I did continue reading against my better judgement. What a waste of time.

  • bitterpill8

    Joe: this is not meant to be snide. But can you explain why the Beltway Scribblers take Broder so seriously. He hasn’t had an original idea or thought in a long time.

  • trifecta55

    Broder is a liar and a hypocrite. As mentioned above, he defended Nixon against impeachment. Then demanded Clinton go. He never asks Republicans to cave. He demands always that a democratic majority incorporate GOP ideas.
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    How this makes him “bipartisan” is beyond me. Can anybody remember any column from Broder during 2000-2006 demanding that the GOP play nicely with the dem minority? I think not.

  • pafro

    The Broder’s claim that Obama wants to “reshape society” is total nonsense, unless incremental changes to our crappy health care system and tweaking the tax burden a couple percent here and there equates to a “reshape” of society.
    The Broder should spend less time tea bagging and more time paying attention.

  • mjshep

    Mmmmmm.

    Cocktail weenies.

    Can I haz me sum?

  • mjshep

    “If you give a Man fruits and vegetables from your garden, he may not starve. But, if you teach him how to plant a garden and grow his own vegetables, then he can feed his whole family.”

    And if you just ignore him he will stare to death. Let’s just hope he does it out of the view of the hard working, Christian types. It would be so upsetting.

  • mjshep

    Broder is an embarrassment.

    He is struck by the “sheer ambition of Obama’s legislative agenda.” He worries Obama wants to reshape society. Then he claims that “historically, that approach has not worked”

    I guess he’s lost his memory. Old age will do that. Of course it’s worked before. Lots of times. In fact it is may be the only thing that really works.

    How about the Revolution? Talk about big ideas reshaping society. Or abolition. Does Broder think Lincoln reshaped society? Or Teddy Roosevelt, or FDR? Did anti-trust laws, National Parks, Social Security and banking regulation reshape society? You betcha. Did Eisenhower’s interstate highway system, surely a pretty big, and expensive, idea, reshape society? Right, Mr. Broder, “historically, that approach has not worked.” Also.

    What has never worked, and will not work, is walking along keeping your eyes on the ground to what is a few inches in front of you, carefully avoiding large ideas and solutions because they are so difficult and complex. Well, it works right until you walk off the cliff you refused to see because you wouldn’t look up.

    You know, like the one GW Bush took us over.

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  • rustyreturns

    “rusty, few no doubt would challenge your assertion on the face of it, but China is giving it a go, aren’t they?”

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    But, in China they are not putting Capitalist ideals throughout the entire country, formerlyjames. Just in a few selected pockets. In cities like Hong Kong or Bejing, yes you see Capitalism. In other more rural areas of China it is still pure Socialism.
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    I suppose that “demonstration” projects such as the Chinese are doing, has been adopted by the Democrats, as they seem to want to do “demonstration” projects of things like tort reform for healthcare as well.
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    But, the vast majority of Chinese are still being held back and bound to Socialism, and most people believe it is simply a Totalitarian Capitalist country now. It is only the higher up government officials who are enjoying the benefits of Capitalism. The rest of the chinese people are simply kept in checked, continue to not have the freedoms we enjoy under our Democracy. A Democratic Capitalist country. This is a major difference. The right of ownership in the US is by the individual. In China, it is the Government. This is what has so many people like myself concerned. Why I was and still am completely angered by the recent Government takeovers of some of our industries and banks. By allowing this to happen, you also risk a Totalitarian type system to evolve here as well. This is what Obama has given us today.
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    It is not so much as to how the economy is designed. You can have Capitalism under various forms of Government. But what is lost are the freedoms of the individual.
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    Is that what you want for yourself and your children, formerlyjames? Do you want a Chinese-like system here in America? You want a Totalitarian government telling you what you can and cannot do?

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Thanks for this post, Joe. I’ve been asking you to direct more attention and criticism towards the powerful, anti-rational-policy cult of centrism. So thanks for this insightful look at Broder’s latest senseless, substanceless column.

  • richinnj

    Let’s not be afraid to state the obvious: Broder has lost several miles off of his fastball.

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