Awwww-kward

Something tells me that it’s not at all like Jennifer Aniston running into Brad and Angelina and that Obama will be utterly presidential and professional about it and that’s that.

Why Obama’s position on Paterson is so important as to merit two posts here is a little beyond me, it’s not like Paterson has a chance in this election, Obama’s support or no.

Amy Sullivan:
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Could you do me a great personal favor and re-write this little piece of inanity to be more smug, shallow and pretentious?
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No? That would be impossible?
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I guess that makes sense…I withdraw my request.
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Thanks, Amy Sullivan, for this gem in the costume tiara of political journalism.

Gee, I thought Paterson and Obama would be hugging each because are are both, you know, black?

Why did Swampland refuse to hire a liberal poster when they brought in someone like Sullivan?

bro-hug?

sigh….
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Political aliances are NOT like celebrity romances and the desire of journalists to treat them as if they are is responsible for the HUGE amount of ignorance that informs the average voter.
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If you tie together enough loose ends and make enough connections, the spirit of this post is responsible for starting the Iraq war. Feel better?

It is interesting that folks here are more interested in the context of how Amy reports this story than a sitting President meddling into a governor’s election. If Bush had snubbed a sitting dog catcher in East Pumphandle, Idaho it would have been fromt page news for a week at the NYT.

And political alliances are not like celebrity romances. Celebrities at least get their clothes off before screwing one another.

Meddling? Where on Earth does it say that the president can’t endorse in a local election? Happens all the time.

Heck, remember back in 2000 when the governor of Florida meddled in a presidential election? Now THAT was worth getting worked up over!

Its interesting that the right wing posters who grace this site spend almost all their time attacking the character of the liberal posters, and almost no time discussing issues in a rational fashion.

I must agree with all of my liberal friends on here. This is simply not news other than the fact that Obama supports another candidate, not the sitting Gov.
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Big deal. Cuomo is in the “in crowd” from NYC. Friend of the Kennedys, etc. Again, big deal.
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I guess my real question back to Amy and other journalists is why does the continued BLACKOUT of the ACORN scandal continue with TIME?

We take our cue from the liberal posters. Just take a look at some of the “rational” rants from your compatriots on the left. This is typical liberal protocol: attack, degrade and name call then feign disgust when it is reciprocated.

Well because Obama claims he knows nothing about it. He hasn’t followed it. We have bigger problems. But he can go on 5 news shows and say a tax is not a tax because he says so. Or he knew about Kanye West at the music awards and Derek Jeter breaking Gehrig’s record but not ACORN.

Joe Wilson where are you when we need you?

Amy Sullivan says she’s a liberal.
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She’s not, really, she tends toward centrism like the rest of the journos, but that’s what she says.
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She is our liberal.
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It’s, like, Rick Stengels’s joke, or something.
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Instead of Digby, we get Amy Sullivan.

destor23

Endorsing is a far cry from telling one not to run.

Still whining about the 2000 election. You folks are worse than the birther’s.

Amy yesterday, I demanded an apology for your racial insensitivity because I firmly believe that as a journalist at this level you should be held accountable for your work, especially when it is as shameful as your previous post. Boy was I off the mark — because it never occurred to me that it was something you actually did intentionally. However, your recent post makes it clear that you have chosen race baiting as your vehicle out of obscurity. Well, be careful what you wish for, you may now have a whole following full of tea baggers, but just remember they are irrational and ungrateful — they tend to turn and bite the last hand that pets them.

I guess my real question back to Amy…
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Perhaps it’s because they’re part of the roughly two-thirds of the population that aren’t soaking their brains with right-whinge agitprop.

Dee:
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To which post are you referring?
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Can you link, please?

” You folks are worse than the birther’s.”
Can we then assume then that you at least agree that the birthers are a bunch of idiots still living in the 60s, and can’t come to terms with the concept that a black man is their president, hence they “want their country back”. if we can agree on this, I’ll take the “worse” title.

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I’m also curious why Amy ‘never expected to read a story’ like that…

stuartzechman

“Amy Sullivan says she’s a liberal.She’s not, really, she tends toward centrism like the rest of the journos, but that’s what she says.”

I believe this says more about your position in the liberal-centrist-conservative spectrum than Amy’s

walkingfunny

Still can’t get through one discussion without throwing down the race card.

I have written here for weeks and George Will threw out on TV yesterday; Racism is the Liberals McCarthyism.

Whinging, “But Ma, he’s doing it too…” is not a valid excuse for your behavior, freeper. Neither is a projection of your faults on others.
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You’d think that as part of the uber-personal-responsibility crowd, you’d at least own your own behavior.

freeinpa:
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I believe this says more about your position
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Believe me when I say that, no insult intended, I don’t think you really understand what the liberal position is, nor where the ends of the spectrum actually exist.
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Much of this isn’t your fault, because the MSM (whom we both find to be grossly flawed) has sought first to limit the sphere of legitimate debate starting on the left, primarily because centrists had such a thorough coup in the Democratic Party with the ascendancy of Clinton I.
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As you can see, they’re currently starting to treat the populist right the way they did in the 1970′s all the way up until the mid-1980′s, as freaks and lunatics whose mere presence defines the end of legitimate discussion.
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All of this to say that national perceptions of the American political spectrum has been warped, distorted and manipulated by an unpopular clique of ideological centrists allied with the genuinely popular rightists over the past two decades or so, which is why you have the fun-house mirror view of the political spectrum.
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Thanks so much in advance for not replying with some nonsensical, unproductive, bitter name-calling, freeinpa!

grape_crush

So you agree that the tactics of liberals are idiotic.

Oh my God. This would not be near as big of a story if both people in question weren’t black. What I find offensive about this story line the most is it’s going back to the “well, he’s black, and he’s black, so that means he has to support him”. If someone is in a minority group, does that mean they have to support everyone else from that same minority group?
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This just exemplifies my belief that a large part of the reason why we can’t completely move past race as a huge issue in this country is because the media keeps trying to keep us in a non post-racial society with reporting like this.

Well then, since George Will said it, it must be true, so I accept your conclusion. Will you also acknowledge the main point of me post that derived mostly from yours; birther’s are small minded idiots (bad), and we liberals are worse. Or are the “straws” enough to quieten your already dull conscience?

stuartzechman

Contrary to your request I could not let your condescending post go unresponded. My knowledge of liberals is as deep as your understanding of conservatives. You lump them all as loons and retards. Then you write some long-winded pompous diatribe to describe them as such. Check the the polls the Obama, Dems and liberals are on a downward slide. The only ones that are denial of that are the liberals who once again believe they are smarter and know better than everybody.

walkingfunny

Please let me know what source is acceptable to you since you appear to be the ultimate arbiter of all that is correct.

The only thing dulling me is the tedious, typical arguments that belittle everyone who disagrees with their opinion.

Ask the liberal mothership for more pages for your oh so limited playbook.

I agree that some people’s tactics – yours, for example, freeper – tend towards idiocy regardless of their ideological leaning.
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Do you agree that blaming other people for your behavior is a violation of the prinicple of personal responsibility?
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Oh, and thanks for proving Derek’s larger point about attacking character instead of contributing to a meaningful discussion.

Oh freeinpa:
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This is just “Daily Affirmation With Stuart Smalley.” I mean with Daily Affirmation with stuart zechman.
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Geeze Louise, I keep getting them mixed up!!

freeinpa:
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sigh…

ME: no insult intended

YOU: your condescending post

ME: they’re currently starting to treat the populist right…as freaks and lunatics

YOU: You lump them all as loons and retards.

ME: national perceptions of the American political spectrum has been warped, distorted and manipulated by an unpopular clique of ideological centrists allied with the genuinely popular rightists

YOU: you write some long-winded pompous diatribe to describe them as such

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YOU: the liberals who once again believe they are smarter and know better than everybody

Again, no insult intended (my wife’s first language is Slovak):
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Is English your first language, freeinpa? Are you genuinely having trouble understanding what I mean by what I say using these words?
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Or does the communication problem we’re experiencing here exist because you filter out anything liberals say that doesn’t fit the political objective of calling us elitists (or whatever caricatures you think might stick)?
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Are you really here for an honest discussion and debate, freeinpa, and are simply confused, or are you just endlessly trying to insult and score (in your mind) political points?
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Please: can you make clear this problem I am having to understand you, freeinpa?

Once race starts getting injected into high stakes politics then it is free for all.

When I made a comment about Carter in a previous post on here, I stated that his remarks about race and Obama Healthcare were not right and infact could create further problems (distractions) for the Obama Administration’s effort to pass a comprehensive Healthcare plan.

The NY governor is widely unpopular and even though there are only two Black governors as the “very observant” Steele has pointed out, so what? Does that prevent any comment from being made about him by the President. I did not get the “Black Brotherhood” memo—which states that all Black folk in elected office must keep running no matter what!

I have some news for Steele—people are people irrespective of the color of their skin. If the governor is unpopular and the President tells him not to run—the reason could be related to the politics of the DEMOCRATIC party (GASP) what a shocking idea

It is this same mentality of “gingerly treading around certain so called racial issues” that keeps Black criminals like “EveSharon Moore” of the website “Blackfemaleinterracial marriage” blog, free.

PS: This is similar to the current problem with Affirmative Action– we need the doors open only to QUALIFIED minorities and not a bunch of unqualified people whose only claim to those positions is the color of their skin.
E.g if you want to get into Medical school and do not get the right score, you do not get admitted. Affirmative action should provide the high scoring children (who do not get the needed grade for certain professional courses) from disadvantaged neighborhoods with more training and an opportunity to redo the exams.

We want to have Black Doctors not Black “butchers” disguised as doctors. We need Affirmative Action but in its current state, it is nonsense.
LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/

Dee:
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Isn’t the problem with her post not “racial insensitivity”, but that her expectations reveal poorly thought out generalizations about people?

stuartzechma

Your parsing of words is par excellance but does not change the substance

Derek and grape:

Thank you, Time, for putting Glenn Beck on your cover…instead of just reading your magazine while using the john, I can wipe myself afterwards with his face…

Maybe they should do a whole issue on white trash
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When is this piece of white trash going to get his cover?

These are just a couple of your “intellectual arguments” I am sure I can find more but you both are firm believers of “Do as I say not as I do”

Good grief, the way the media reports on race is as bad as those race-baiting SOB’s like Sharpton and Jackson, as far as I’m concerned.
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And LM, what did you mean about affirmative action? Because I agree the way it’s been implemented recently has been a debacle but what changes would you suggest? I’d be interested to hear.

You are absolutely correct. It should all be about equal opportunity not equal outcome. Race, gender and income should be modifiers to ability not the overriding factor.

These are just a couple of your “intellectual arguments”
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(laughing)
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That’s not an argument, freeper…an argument would be me saying that everyone should use the Beck cover of Time to wipe with….and, unless you actually are Glenn Beck, it’s not a personal attack against you…so your point above is invalid.
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Is what I wrote silly and possibly offensive? Maybe, to some. You still haven’t refuted Derek’s original point but erecting this strawman.
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Again, do you agree that blaming other people for your behavior is a violation of the prinicple of personal responsibility? Or is this a case of ‘do as I say and not as I do’?