The Baucus Health Care Bill: A Work In Progress (Cont’d.)

I noted yesterday that Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus has signaled he is open to making adjustments to his bill, even before it gets to its first formal drafting session on Tuesday. (Stay tuned to Swampland, by the way, to follow the progress of the markup. We have some special plans for coverage in the works.)

And adjustments there will be. As Carrie Budoff Brown writes today, Senators on the committee have filed more than 500 amendments. (Download them here.) They give an early glimpse of what’s in store for Baucus:

Two very different visions of health care reform emerged from the wave of amendments, which the committee posted online Saturday.

Republicans want a less-costly bill with fewer taxes, no government insurance option or nonprofit insurance cooperatives, medical liability reform, loosened restrictions on flexible savings accounts and no unfunded mandates on the states.

Some Democrats are looking to strengthen the co-ops, and others want to replace it with a government insurance option. They want to boost the amount of tax credits available to low- and moderate-income people to purchase insurance, and change the 35 percent excise tax on insurers that offer high-end plans.

The amendments provide a first look at the priorities – and possible breaking points – for the senators.

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), who is the likeliest Republican vote, proposed a “safety net fallback plan” in which a nonprofit government corporation would offer coverage in any state where affordable coverage was unavailable to 95 percent of residents. She wants to boost the threshold at which insurance plans would be taxed for people over 55, and reduce the penalty for failing to comply with the individual mandate.

Snowe signed onto several amendments with Democrats, including one extending small business tax credits to nonprofits.

Democrats from four of the highest-cost states – Chuck Schumer of New York, Robert Menendez of New Jersey, Maria Cantwell of Washington and John Kerry of Massachusetts – proposed a series of changes to the excise tax. They would boost the threshold from $8,000 to $9,800 for an individual and from $21,000 to $25,000 for a family, and raise the tax from 35 percent to 40 percent.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) proposed striking the more than $90 billion in fees on the on insurers, medical device makers, pharmaceuticals and clinical laboratories.

Kerry and Schumer want to establish an employer mandate, which Baucus shunned in favor of requiring companies to defray the costs of providing insurance tax credits to employees who qualify for the assistance.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.V.), who has been highly critical of the Baucus plan, filed the most amendments. He wants to expand Medicaid to 150 percent of poverty, up from 133 percent; create one national insurance marketplace known as an exchange, rather than a series of state exchanges; and limit the out-of-pocket health care costs for all individuals.

Rockefeller joined with Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) to prevent the Children’s Health Insurance Program from being folded into the exchange.

Rockefeller did not propose creating a public insurance option, despite the issue being most closely identified with him. That was left to Schumer and Cantwell, who submitted two amendments dealing with the public option.

In turn, several Republicans introduced amendments requiring lawmakers and federal employees to use the public option if one is enacted.

Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) wants to strike the word “fee” from the bill and replace it with “tax.” He also wants “transparency in czars,” and assurances non-smokers aren’t forced to subsidize smokers.

In perhaps a mild form of protest, Hatch proposed additional relief from the 35 percent tax on high-end insurance plans for any state that begins with the letter “U.”

Related Topics: jay rockefeller, Max Baucus, olympia snowe, orrin hatch, Senate Finance Committee, Health Care
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  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    Maria were proposin’ a Public Option???
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    Blast neptune’s fork t’ bloody bits – me incessant harranguin’ o’ th’ wench may be workin’!
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    All me WAmateys – keep th’ pressure buildin’!
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    Patty be next!
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    YARR!

  • stuartzechman

    KT:
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    Where be there th’ chart showin’ th’ amount o’ treasure given t’ each amendment-proposer by th’ health industry along-side o’ what th’ amendment be doin’?
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    Arrgh!

  • jcapan

    http://www.opensecrets.org/capital_eye/health.php

    This chart be one-stop shoppin’ for trackin’ t’ farkin’ doobloonz.

    WTF?

  • redraven937

    Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) wants to strike the word “fee” from the bill and replace it with “tax.” He also wants “transparency in czars,” and assurances non-smokers aren’t forced to subsidize smokers.

    Ensign, as in that Ensign? Why is he still in office?

  • gysgt213

    “Republicans want a less-costly bill with fewer taxes, no government insurance option or nonprofit insurance cooperatives, medical liability reform, loosened restrictions on flexible savings accounts and no unfunded mandates on the states.”
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    So in others the republicans want no reform except to limit the ability for people to recover damages when they are injured by doctors.

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    Stuart!
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    Glad t’ see ye!
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    I wants t’ be thankin’ ye special fer yer informative, reasoned postin’s ‘ere o’er th’ months – ye’re a better man than I, an’ ye’d be so even if I were a man!
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    Fair winds, me hearty – th’ fairest o’ winds t’ ye!
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    YARR!

  • stuartzechman

    PW (dw):
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    Thank ‘ee!

  • carotexas1

    Olympia Snow doesn’t verily trust the Insurance Companies or she wouldna be offering her measly amendment. Arrgh!

    Karen will these markups be public and on CSPAN?

  • http://twitter.com/ktumulty Karen Tumulty

    Yes, but the real deals get cut privately.

  • stuartzechman

    Th’ Redoubtable Jay Ackroyd be respondin’ t’ Senator Claire “Black Dog” McCaskill’s tweet:

    @clairecmc Still hope we can get some public OPTION or non profit coop. Also must make sure private can compete so gov doesn’t swallow competition.

    wi’ th’ King’s Question

    When did preserving insurance companies who have abused customers become a policy objective?

    o’er thar at th’ good clipper Atrios:
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    http://www.eschatonblog.com/2009/09/policy.html
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    Whar be th’ Treasure Chart!?!?
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    Arrgh!

  • carotexas1

    Thank you Karen, I noticed the Republicans are rerunning some of the house amendments.
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    They tried the forcing the congress to join the Public Option in Waxmens plan. I cannot remember why it could not pass but something about a law that sets congress benefits, so they know they are safe doing this again. Arrgh!

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    When did preserving insurance companies who have abused customers become a policy objective?
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    Since a lack of competetion against a government plan can have the same toxic effect that a lack of competition within the private sector already does.

    I don’t think legislating the insurers out of existence is a good idea.

  • destor23

    If I be denied a choice ‘tween forcin’ United Healthcare to walk tha plank while I sail off with a government plan, then I be getting no choice at all! Shiver me timbers!

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

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  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    Blast it be li’ me t’ be fergettin’ somethin’ – too much bumbo, mates!
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    Keep t’ th’ code – ye’ll all do fine ;) !

  • stuartzechman

    Dirks:
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    There’s a massive difference between “legislating them out of existence” and legislating to preserve the current industry players as they are, isn’t there?
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    Don’t you think that was Jay’s point?

  • stuartzechman

    KT:

    Yes, but the real deals get cut privately.

    If anybody ever gets on your case for a purported lack of honesty about the legislative process, point them to the URL of this comment of yours.
    .
    It’s a very, very important truth that you’ve just mentioned here.
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    You should tweet that…No, wait I’ll do it:

    Q:”Karen will these markups be public and on CSPAN?” @ktumulty A:”Yes, but the real deals get cut privately” http://tinyurl.com/m68pmc #HCR

    Thank you very, very much for responding honestly to commentary, KT.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    The reason that people are afraid that the private insurers will be unable to compete with the public plan isn’t because of the difference in overhead or better service. They know that the Federal Government, unlike a corporation is incapable of running out of money.
    One of the few services that Insurance companies actually provide is to keep enough funds in reserve to pay claims. People don’t seem to be thinking about that very much but it is where all the hand-wringing and lobbying is coming from.

  • stuartzechman

    DIrks:
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    This is only tangentially related, and I’m in no way being argumentative, I’m curious:
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    You’re not a big fan of single payer, are you?

  • dirose

    Pirate Wench:

    Shane, Shane! Com’ Bac’ Shane! Shane!

  • kathy

    pirate wench: Did you know that yesterday was international “speak like a pirate” day? I’m just catching up on yesterday’s threads. Perhaps you all knew that. ARRGH back at you.

  • plukasiak

    PD…
    How do you know if the reserves are actually adequate? Moreover, the simple fact is that the reserve levels are determined by state regulation — in other words, those “reserves” are not a function of the for profit insurance companies, but of regulation of those companies.
    _
    Finally, unlike with property and life insurance, a “disaster” does not threaten to wipe out an insurance company — even if everyone who is insured gets sick all at once, the inability of the private health care system to provide care for more than a small percentage of the population at any given point in time limits the payout that these insurers would be subjected to. a widescale health care emergency in which hospitalls become overwhelmed would be dealt with by the government, not the insurance companies….

  • funin1503

    80 percent of the population insured, overwhelmingly whom generally not displeased with what they have.

    1 trillion dollars for these new ‘options’, the funding for which are not known how to be arranged, which we can’t afford as it is, and which would bridle our future generations with insane debt.

    A process to screen and deny services to Illegal aliens, who already establish a burden on our society for education and healthcare (and send billions south of the border outside of our economy) where the return is less than the cost, does not exist.

    Millions (Dems and Repubs alike) march on Washington (on a non-summer work day) to voice their opposition. These are not your standard liberal career-demonstrators, or the convenient summer-time / no-school funded million man march… these are people taking their own time off and paying their own way, at their expense to express their concerns.

    And for those that speak out against the president’s plans, such as Joe Wilson… they are labeled as racists. Never mind that the Dems broke decorum multiple times when heckling Bush, but there are different standards now… but I digress.

    And Nancy Pelosi states that the goal is what matters, not about the plan to get to the goal… (?!?!?!). Apparently the goal is to do anything even recklessly that resembles reform, even if it turns out to be worse than what currently exists, because the concept of what currently exists isn’t good enough in some people’s minds (namely extreme left, priveleged politicians who don’t worry about health care themselves).

    …And no one seems to be reading the bill… except those who don’t trust it.

    Seems to me that there are too many concerns about this health care to allow it to be force down our throats.

  • bitterpill8

    Just an aside: all this handwringing when it comes to funding some basic health care for those who cannot afford it. Where will the money come from? This question is, with few exceptions, never on the table when we have defense appropriations and the resulting boondoggles in many states.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    @pluk,
    All good points. They don’t alter my argument that the reason the insurer’s are afraid of the Public option is the Government’s virtual unlimited reserves but they do shed light on why that might not be such a bad thing.
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    @Stuart,
    I honestly haven’t thought anoout Single Payer enough to form an opinion. I do know however that it’s a political non starter and I’d really like to see some legislation pass this year…..

  • messenia

    80 percent of the population insured, overwhelmingly whom generally not displeased with what they have.
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    You may be satisified with the fact that 100% of the taxpayers subsidize employer-paid insurance, finance public employee healthcare at all levels of the government and MedicAid and still leave 20% without coverage but that doesn’t make it a sustainable condition.
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    And those who pay 100% for their own care, endure the added insult of not even being able to deduct their own premiums as they subsidize everyone else.

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