Pelosi Chokes Up

She thinks of Harvey Milk when she hears the vitriol. You know what I think of? The hate-radio jocks from Rwanda.

BTW, Carter said general criticism of Obama from the right is for many southerners, rooted in racism. And he’s right.

Gibbs said that Obama doesn’t believe that criticism of health care reform is due to racism. Entirely different thing.

Every time the right gets a chance to lower the rhetoric, they escalate instead. I read that Boehner and Cantor are worried about Bachmann coming to define their party. A bit too crazy for them. I wonder how they can tell?

“Alas, instead of calming things down, her comments seemed to have only added to fuel to the fire.”
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Are you kidding me?
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How many people have to die before the media stops treating this as he-said-she-said and starts denouncing the people propagating this stuff?
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Three cops gunned down in Pittsburgh by a man who had been convinced by right-wing radio that “Obama was coming to get his guns.”
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A doctor gunned down in Kansas by a nut encouraged by anti-abortion extremists like Operation Rescue.
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A security guard killed at the Holocaust Museum by a gunman who lived off right-wing propaganda.
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A congregation in Knoxville last year who had two people killed and six wounded by a man who wrote a manifesto on his “hatred for the liberal movement” and had a house filled with books by Savage, Hannity and O’Reilly.
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Is that not enough evidence for you people to take a stand and say, yes, right-wing hate talk can lead to violence?
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Seriously, how many people have to be killed before you spineless cowards in the media get over your fear of being denounced as a soft-headed liberal by the latter day Agnews of the conservative movement? How many more?

btw, Benen has a graph of new polling on A REGIONAL PARTY….. Pretty stunning. But a rump party can still tear a country apart, and that appears to be what they are choosing to do.

The Republicans are way off base. Instead of tearing into Pelosi, they should forcefully be speaking out against the Teabaggers, making it clear they do NOT condone the majority of the signs that those “protesters” showed up with in Washington (Bury Obamacare with Kennedy was actually one of the milder messages).

Add to the mix that people are showing up armed to express anger at Obama and you have a volatile mix.

While I believe most of the Teabaggers are disgruntled Republicans who ignored the deficit and government “meddling” (where were they during the Fisa and Patriot Act debate if they are so worried about goverment’s power) when Bush was in office and that these jokers are the same haters we saw when Clinton was in office, there is no doubt that white supremecists are quite happy to hi-jack the tea party.

There is no way these folks would have protested Ted Kennedy with signs referring to his Irish ancestry but some of the Teabaggers feel quite comfortable maligning Obama’s with slurs about zoos, animals and Africa.

“No longer content with criticizing concerned citizens for being ‘un-American,’ the Speaker is now likening genuine opposition to assassination,” said National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) Chairman Pete Sessions (R-TX)
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Someone tell this asshat that Pelosi isn’t calling the teabaggers assassins, rather, she is afraid of where the current climate is leading us to.
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I mean, Sessions already knows this and he’s just lying scum, but it needs to be said out loud.

“No longer content with criticizing concerned citizens for being ‘un-American,’ the Speaker is now likening genuine opposition to assassination,” said National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) Chairman Pete Sessions (R-TX)

Wow. What part of “loony preacher tells congregation that god wants Obama dead is followed by said congregates showing up at Obama events armed with assault rifles” does he not get?

Sessions is an idiot. Of course we in Texas already knew that.

Don’t be so general. The cop-killer and Holocaust museum shooter were both informed by Alex Jones and like company – definitely not right wing. Beyond that, a pro-abortion activist was recently gunned down because the shooter was upset at his politics.
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Beyond that, crazies exist in today’s society. Crazies will do something dangerous no matter what ideology is in the air. I suppose any assassination attempts on Pres. Bush would also be attributed to Olbermann calling him a fascist?

I’m going to put on my “Righty-Whities” for a change and disagree with Pelosi. Obama is staying above the fray and Pelosi should as well.

Excuse me, that should read pro-life…sigh…

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That pea-brained, America hating, dimwitted, leftist, feminist dingbat should keep her hysterical, delusional, fantastical crying fits to the inside of her San Francisco home and outside of my country, the USA.

BTW, Carter said general criticism of Obama from the right is for many southerners, rooted in racism. And he’s right.

You know that because you just…know. Oh by the way, Carter was speaking in more inclusive terms.

“Alas, instead of calming things down, her comments seemed to have only added to fuel to the fire.”
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Guess there is no way to figure out why Nancy might feel like this or if her fears are even remotely based in some sort of reality.

Birthers, deathers, 9/12ers, racists, “you LIE”ers and other generally-nutball right-wingers get praise and adulation, however.

Speaking of righty-whities, textee is the tightest… cutting off the blood supply to you-know-where-his-brain-is-located…

Jay Newton-Small:

Alas, instead of calming things down, her comments seemed to have only added to fuel to the fire.

Why?
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Because of her, or because of “all the cable nets” (and, presumably, all of the blogs that chatter about all of the cable nets)?
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Which party is more responsible for “the fire”, the person speaking or the political press corps?

Since Joe started the Old Testament string on his post, perhaps a relevant NT issue applies to this one: The seventh church described in Revelation was neither cold nor hot, therefore Big Guy spat it out of His mouth. Does this describe why independents (people in the middle) don’t have much say in politics?

Jimmy Carter and Nancy Pelosi both have enough experience as public servants to speak about what they personally believe to be true about the current discourse. They are entitled to their opinions, and the white house does not have to agree with them nor distance itself from their opinions.
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What is true, and blatantly despicable, is the fact that the Republicans are allowing this divide (whatever it’s based on—racism, fear, hate, or simply policy disagreement) to WEAKEN this country in the eyes of the rest of the world. If an american citizen isn’t the next one to inflict violence over this craziness, a terrorist from elsewhere might seize the moment. The best time to catch us off guard is when we are willing to destroy our democracy by not standing with our POTUS, whom was elected by a majority.
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Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a patriot, nor is this *their* USA.

Absolutely agree with you on this yoshi, and you forgot to mention the ONLY related abuse was the pro-healthcare NUT that bit off the finger of the healthcare protester in California.
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Yes indeed, Nutballs on both sides. Nancy should know. She is simply playing off protest to her precious healthcare bill since it has fully tanked, and Dem Congressional approval is at an ALL TIME HIGH.

I just love the double standard. One day she is condoning

‘protesters are what make this country great’

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Of course that statement was made during the ANTI-BUSH and ANTI-IRAQ WAR protests.
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Now today, she first starts off very offensive, very deeming and very combative to conservative protests at Townhall Meetings, calling them all sorts of crass names.
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Today she cries. Nancy wept. Who cares?
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Yes Nancy, weep baby because you WILL be voted out of office. That is the ONLY thing you care for anyways is your precious job on Capitol Hill.

Why is their only right wing nuts? How far off the planet does a liberal have to be t obe considered a nut job? My guess is not very far since everytime the libs open their mouths aboutwhat they truly think, people run screamin gfrom the room. For all the talk about hate on this faux uber-intelligent blog of left wingers. read post 10 and 10.1 and tell me how different their hate-mongering is and how does that contriibute to the “civil” atmosphere.

It is eye-opening that liberals point to Jimmy Carter as knowing about racism when the man is a confirmed anti-semite.

OR yoshiattacks, maybe fourlegsgood heard and or read what Jimmy Carter said.
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“I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he’s African-American,” Carter told “NBC Nightly News.”

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JNS of course tries to play this as just another he said she said affair, but its not even a question if a lot of the strongest opposition to Pres Obama is racist or not. The only question is what happens next. Especially when you have Republicans not only not denouncing it, but in many cases endorsing it. Its funny how quickly your side invokes 1st amendment rights unless the person talking is saying something you disagree with ala Van Jones.
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If anybody else ends up getting hurt behind this, all of the people who tried to dismiss with false equivalence including people like JNS who purport to call themselves journalists will all have blood on your hands. I am sure you all will be SOOOO proud.

Rustydog:

First Amendment
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That’s as American as apple pie, even though this http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002150/ isn’t particularly what the Founders had in mind.

As much as Sessions would like to deny it…

If it looks like a duck,
and it walks like a duck,
and it quacks like a duck,

Then it’s a f*cking duck!

Just curious Freeofbrain, but who exactly “confirmed” this? I’m sure you have a linky for such a statement.

Racial this and that tends to be exhausting and counter productive when it becomes a recurring refrain.

Yes, some people hate Obama because he is Black but many also disagree with him because of differences in ideology.

Maybe as my husband says, I am overly optimistic but I do not really think race is the over arching reason for the rejection of the bill by Republicans. They are making a strategic political move.

White Americans contributed GREATLY into getting Obama elected. He is not President today because of Black support alone. So (despite what Carter avers) I do not believe these people have not overnight become Racist. They voted in this President.

Yes, I do not support–and in fact abjure– the wild and vicious attacks of Beck and all his “nutty” Right wing rabble rousers and fear mongers BUT every criticism leveled at the president and all boorish conduct against him does not have to be construed as possessing some sort of ominous racial undertone or rationale. To me, it is It is mostly the usual politics and posturing!

George W. Bush was derided and “abused” non stop by so many people—and yes, I know he lied to the people– but he was still excoriated mocked and harassed. It comes with the office of President–dissent, attacks and emotion!

Yes yes… racism exists and there are obviously nut job racists who see the President as an undocumented Kenyan worker and a witch doctor etc. etc. but it is unproductive to fan these fringe nut by throwing in debate and discourse hate of homosexuals and intolerance as Pelosi has done-an unneeded distraction.

All these screams of racism blah blah blah scream scream– we have to remember is not beneficial to getting the plan passed. It is a distraction and promises to get even more incendiary if not curtailed.

And in honestly, race cuts both ways, the felons (Eve Sharon Moore of the “BlackFemaleInterracialmarriage” blog) and many Black felons get ginger treatment because they cry “Black power” and “Black Empowerment” night and day.

Is race an issue in this debate, maybe so– but not an overarching issue. Let us not forget there are also clear ideological divides and politically motivated reasons for the continued onslaught by the Republicans against this bill.
They want this President to fail. And I do not think their desire to want him to fail is as a result of his color as much as the fact that he is a from the DEMOCRATIC party.

Pelosi should stop creating these comparisons with homophobia and fanning further chaos. The focus at this time should be on the Healthcare plan and how to make sure a good one is passed.

President Obama stands on the cusp of changing history with this bill! He should be supported at this time and not distracted by ancillary matters.

LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/

Oops correction to paragraph 4 above on my comment.

White Americans contributed GREATLY into getting Obama elected. He is not President today because of Black support alone. So (despite what Carter avers) I do NOT believe these people have overnight become Racist. They voted in this President.

LM

http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/

Nancy videos:
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Yes little stuart, there are indeed NUTS from both sides of the political spectrum. You have pointed out and shown one on the right.
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Nancy however is front and center in the Democrat party. Is this how you condone your Party representatives? Do you agree with Nancy that people should simply be stopped from speaking out?
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I thought you actually believed in the 1st Admendment, little stuart. But, like your friend and gal pal Nancy, only if it reflects YOUR idea of what this country should be about. Progressive ideals.
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You people are such a joke, indeed.

Really? That’s the best you’ve got?
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Alex Jones is the guy best known for pushing — along with Glenn Beck — the bizarre claim that FEMA is setting up concentration camps. Yeah, sounds like a real left winger to me.
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Yes, a single pro-life demonstrator was killed. Can you point me to the rhetoric from Planned Parenthood or NARAL or anyone on the left that encouraged him to do so? No? Then the comparison is meaningless.
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Nice try at creating a false equivalency between the many documented incidents of right-wing assassins feeding off right-wing hate and the imagined possibility that a lefty might have done the same to Bush because of something Olbermann said.
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But JNS already beat you to the false equivalency punch. Rest easy, right wing nuts, Time Magazine is here to make your arguments for you.

It’s not Pelosi’s comments that added fuel to the fire — it’s her very existence. It’s her position as speaker. The haters (and demagogues like Sessions who are riding on their coattails) are acting this way because they are not in power — period. There’s nothing Pelosi (or the rest of the Democrats) could do to assuage that. The attacks will continue to escalate until either the Democrats are driven from power or things become so violent that America punishes the gop for encouraging it.
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It’s no accident that we saw an escalation of violence against federal agents (particularly ATM) during the Clinton administration. It was no accident that the gopers response to it was to refuse to condemn the violence, but instead to blame Clinton for somehow inciting it. It’s also no accident that the violence subsided during the Bush administration, only to return now.
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BTW – I find it remarkable that Carter’s comments are found to be controversial and loudly condemned by the right. Those comments are described in the MSM as having ‘stirred up controversy’ — as though things were calm before Carter chimed in . But we don’t hear a peep about Limbaugh calling for segregated busing (!) on his nationally broadcast radio show. Somehow that sort of behavior isn’t ‘stirring up controversy’, but Carter speaking out about it is.

Andrew has a link to a video of the Teabagger’s march and it certainly highlights why many of us are worried.

I’m sure most of these people know their signs are not true, that Obama is neither a Communist or a Nazi but that it’s just easier to create fear than to explain their viewpoints. But…

We know there are some scary people out there and the MSM is legitimatizing their “movement” by giving friendly coverage to the likes of Glen Beck.

You know that because you just…know. Oh by the way, Carter was speaking in more inclusive terms.

I know this because I live in the south, I hear the comments and see racism around me every single day. Only a fool pretends it doesn’t exist.

I hate to break it to you, but it’s OUR country too. And guess what? we out number you.

Run along and crai now.

‘…BUT every criticism leveled at the president and all boorish conduct against him does not have to be construed as possessing some sort of ominous racial undertone or rationale.’
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No one is saying that EVERY criticism contains a racial undertone (at least no one that isn’t trying to set up a straw man argument). Carter and others are merely pointing out that a significant percentage of them ARE racially charged, and that those that are should be condemned before things get worse.
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Reasonable people should encourage honest dialog and debate. Screaming that Obama is every ‘ism’ you can think of, while carrying a sign depicting him as Hitler or an African witch-doctor should be condemned by those same reasonable people.

I know you were home schooled and probably had a map that was made before Hawaii but not Alaska was admitted in to the US, but I’m pretty sure that even back then San Francisco was part of the US. It’s one thing to consider yourself the real America and quite another to believe the confederacy was victorious and sold the union states to Canada.

Actually, fourlegs, self-identified conservatives still outnumber self-identified liberals. So since we have bigger numbers, it’s our country! Just kidding, that would be divisive and disingenuine.

Rustydog:

I thought you actually believed in the 1st Admendment, little stuart.

First of all, is “little stuart” supposed to be a play on “Stuart Little”, the mouse?
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Anyway, what about literally quoting the First Amendment and describing protests against the government as “American as apple pie” indicates to you that I’m at all wavering in my beliefs?
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As far as pointing out evidence of the stupidity of some –some- of the ideas that went into these demonstrations goes, I’ll defend the rights of idiot scum to burn the American flag, too.
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The real thing I’m trying to get you to be aware of, Rustydog, is that the image you have of the nobility of this cause has been fairly compromised by a lack of honesty and focus, and an overabundance of mythology and misdirection.
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Americans being really angry at their government in public is A-OK with me, Rustydog. I actually want more of it.

Move along. Nothing to see here.
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Rustydog:

Surely you don’t have a problem with criticism –either implied or overt– of the government’s secret intelligence agencies, given your terror of state bureaucracies?

Ummm…Gunny?
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What’s wrong with what these people are saying?
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…I don’t see anybody whose being crass or mindless besides the press corps here.

God there really is just no limit to your stupidity is there? Do you really not understand that anyone who loves this country can think the fact that citizens have the freedom to protest the policies of its government a good thing and still reject the violence inducing rhetoric of extremists. We’ve had over 200 years of the peaceful transfer of power precisely because most Americans understand this. And we manage to always knock back the demagogues and shame them into obscurity every time they try to warp this country. I have no doubt that Rush has almost taken this as far as he can go — and it won’t be too much longer before some unbalanced listener does something as beyond the pale as a Timothy McVeigh, or have we forgotten he was one of you too, and we realize once again why we always eventually reject his kind of politics.,

JNS, you show your bias here. Pelosi was all excited about leftists engaged in similar tactics during the Bush years. But yet you cannot give the history.
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http://www.gop.gov/conference-call/09/08/10/anti-war-protest
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Bias.

I thought the lady was polite.
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The attendee that is not Moron O’Donnell

bobcn1
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I meant “fire” as in “fire of controversy created by conflict-spinning press corps”, not whatever meaningless fire exists within the brains of the 23% of Americans left who self-identify as Republicans.
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Without the megaphone of the press at someone’s disposal, how would “her very existence” create the “fire” about which Jay Newton-Small is obliviously alas- and alack-ing?

The Secret Service is responding to many more threats than under Bush. Those who all of a sudden cry fiscal conservatism are costing us lots of money. The left and the right have extremists, unfortunately the right extremists are costing us a lot. The republican representatives are calling President Obama every ism that they can. You’ll have to show me where a democratic representative called President Bush Hitler or Hitler like. By the way not every ism is the same so next time you watch Beck, please use a dictionary.

Rustydog:

Surely you don’t have a problem with criticism –either implied or overt– of the government’s secret intelligence agencies, given your terror of state bureaucracies?

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I do when it is from a woman, who happens to be the Speaker of the House, who has the inside scoop so to speak of what the CIA has done.
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She along with Obama cannot cherry-pick what they THINK people should know. That is what the real threat to America is all about, stuart.
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Telling half-truths and lies about the CIA. Not telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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When people like Nancy Pelosi get into the power positions, and they twist the truth so as to make her side of the discussion distorted. To appease her far left thugs. That is where I have a problem.
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Perhaps it is time to expose ALL of the information about what the CIA has done, what information they have gleaned out of interrogations. You cannot release portions of CIA documents that completely benefit your point of view or opinion, state that the CIA is evil and “torture” people, and then not show the entire picture to the American citizens.
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That is the greatest threat that can be against this country stuart. Even the terrorists do not pose as great a threat to this country as does Obama and Pelosi’s distortion of the truth.
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If the CIA lied as Nancy claims in this video, then prove it Nancy, release the documentation that shows your proof.
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Talk about inciting the Nutballs. The Nutballs on the left eat this up like cotton candy.

The only thing “STUPID” dearest Dee is that you believe that the Tea Party protests last weekend are “all Timothy McVeigh” types.
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Is that truly what you believe? You, southerbelle and Rose?
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Do you actually believe this?
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Nevermind, I already know your answer as YOU frankly my dear, are as “bat-$hitcrazy” as your liberal friends like to say on this site, as all the rest of the Code Pinks of the world.

but its not even a question if a lot of the strongest opposition to Pres Obama is racist or not.

Huh? Not even a question? How do you define “strongest opposition” or “intensely demonstrated animosity?” I believe your prejudice is talking.

I hate the reply system. Always gets my posts out of the thread somehow. So for a repost…

but its not even a question if a lot of the strongest opposition to Pres Obama is racist or not.

Huh? Not even a question? How do you define “strongest opposition” or “intensely demonstrated animosity?” I believe your prejudice is talking.

Alex Jones is the guy best known for pushing — along with Glenn Beck — the bizarre claim that FEMA is setting up concentration camps. Yeah, sounds like a real left winger to me.

You might want to move beyond “sounds like” and actually investigate his websites. The dude is a truther and a total anti-government wacko who pushes conspiracy behind everything. Oh, by the way, Beck brought a PM guy on to debunk the camps. You should get better talking points, or internet detective skills.

Yes, a single pro-life demonstrator was killed. Can you point me to the rhetoric from Planned Parenthood or NARAL or anyone on the left that encouraged him to do so? No? Then the comparison is meaningless.

Oh I get it, so a single man’s life isn’t really that important in the greater scheme of good and evil that politics is so often reduced to. Does this mean you’ll give up blaming Beck and peaceful protesters for right-wing violence? After all, they aren’t encouraging anyone to kill.

because of something Olbermann said.

How do you know? I’m simply using your standard of proof.

conversets

No “linky” just an observation reading the giants of political thought here who complain ad naseum of the right but nary a mention of the left regardless of the absurdity of speech or action.

It just could not possibly be otherwise since only the truth is spoken here or could it be just more liberal deranged syndrome

Rustydog:

I do when it is from a woman, who happens to be the Speaker of the House, who has the inside scoop so to speak of what the CIA has done.

OK…I think I get it. You think that whatever criticism comes from her is political, and not a true picture of what may or may not be wrong at the agency. You don’t think that saying that the agency f*cked up is off-limits as un-patriotic or some stupidity like that, you’re just upset with what you think is insincere criticism.

She along with Obama cannot cherry-pick what they THINK people should know. That is what the real threat to America is all about, stuart.

I’m not sure what you mean by that, but I’m guessing that you think that Democratic leaders are manipulating public opinion somehow by selectively releasing information. That would be wrong, if it were happening, and it would be one of the greatest threats to our democracy I could imagine.

Telling half-truths and lies about the CIA. Not telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Right, but how do you know that’s what is going on?
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It’s obvious that you don’t trust Nancy Pelosi’s word on faith (I don’t much either), and you shouldn’t, because she’s a politician. But not trusting her like a baby isn’t the same thing as knowing conclusively that she lied or mislead about the CIA. How do you know this?

When people like Nancy Pelosi get into the power positions, and they twist the truth so as to make her side of the discussion distorted. To appease her far left thugs. That is where I have a problem.

Well…yes, but that’s endemic to all political debate. It’s called rhetoric, and it’s up to us as citizens of a democracy to be able to –with the help of a free press, of course– filter through that, and form our own conclusions.
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I have no idea what “far left thugs” you’re talking about, though. Do you mean Code Pink?

Perhaps it is time to expose ALL of the information about what the CIA has done, what information they have gleaned out of interrogations. You cannot release portions of CIA documents that completely benefit your point of view or opinion, state that the CIA is evil and “torture” people, and then not show the entire picture to the American citizens.

Yes it is time to expose ALL of the information. We liberals want to do that, but we’re having a very hard time convincing the centrists in Washington to give up the power that goes along with secrecy –Obama being one of those centrists, you understand.
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Who said that the CIA is evil, though? I don’t remember anybody doing that.

That is the greatest threat that can be against this country stuart. Even the terrorists do not pose as great a threat to this country as does Obama and Pelosi’s distortion of the truth.

Well…Yes & no.
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The greatest threat to the country is not terrorists, you’re correct, but it’s not a specific set of politicians distorting the truth it’s a working system of truth distortion combined with supreme power wielded by giant institutions, be they banks, corporations or the state.
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It’s not Obama or Pelosi –or Bush or Cheney– that threaten our nation, it’s an anti-democratic system of secrecy and lies. Don’t hate liberals like me for it, hate the centrists who took control of most national political institutions, including the political press corps. You should be giving the ACLU your credit card, if you really want an end to secrecy abuse in government.

If the CIA lied as Nancy claims in this video, then prove it Nancy, release the documentation that shows your proof.
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Talk about inciting the Nutballs. The Nutballs on the left eat this up like cotton candy.

…But then she might by in a sh*tty Catch 22 position, where she’s bound by secrecy obligations to do nothing except defend herself weakly by implication.
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I don’t know, and neither do you, so let’s focus on getting the gag-orders removed through support of Freedom Of Information Act lawsuits, and through vocal, public opposition to the Executive’s wanton abuse of State Secrets and executive privilege.
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What “Nutballs are you talking about? Can’t we dispense with the silly name-calling, Rustydog?

I understand. I was referring to JNS’s statement (‘…her comments seemed to have only added to fuel to the fire’), not yours. Sorry if my reply caused confusion.

This is a transcript from Oreilly’s Factor on Thursday. He had on the show, ex-CIA Sheurer, who said the following (Sheurer who I do question where he gets his info, but it is compelling to say the least):
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“In addition to his domestic problems, President Obama is being criticized in some corners for his anti-terror stance. The Factor welcomed former CIA agent Michael Scheuer, who revealed new information about past interrogations. “After the interrogations of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,” Scheuer said, “we were able to stop an Al Qaeda plan that was already in progress. They were trying to enroll its fighters in American universities to prepare for the next round of attacks in the United States. We were also able to help the British stop a major attack inside the United Kingdom. We don’t know about this because the president and Attorney General Holder have been lying about the success of the interrogation program. The president’s personal views have gained ascendancy over the protection of the United States.” The Factor thanked Scheuer for stepping forward: “What you just told us is still classified information and the public knows nothing about it. We need all the information in order to have a national security debate.”

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So, I do believe that Obama and Holder are only providing part of what was really gained interrogating KSM, using “enhanced interrogation techniques”, which most if not all liberals on this site claim to be torture. Release the information what was gotten from KSM, what from that information was used to stop terrorism and then let’s decide what is right and wrong which was done by the CIA. But, don’t put some of it out there and then leave it up to interpretation.
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I don’t trust any of them any further than I could toss them. It is all about power and money. They live off it and will kill anyone or anything in order to get it and keep it. BOTH Repubs and Dems in Congress and the President.
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No one in specific on my “Nutjob” on the left, there are also plenty on the right as well. But, in the video I posted about dear Nancy, she was inciting the left just as much as what has been happening recently on Beck’s show and on Fox News in general. You can’t preach to stop something when your own party is doing the exact same thing.

Rustydog:
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You want to know why that report isn’t credible?
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It’s because of this:

“What you just told us is still classified information and the public knows nothing about it.”

Come on, Rustydog.
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If that were true, Michael F. Scheuer would have committed a federal felony on the O’Reilly Factor.
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Do you really think that he did so? Is there an arrest warrant that has been issued for Mr. Scheuer of which I am unaware?
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Think about this, Rustydog…

Look at her looking like Mary Poppins all teared up. If you can’t take the heat, GET OUT THE KITCHEN!

http://www.emptysuit.wordpress.com

SGW, me lad, peas’d t’ be hearin’ from ya! Arrg.

Arrg, me Belle! Interestin’, tho’, that Beck didn’t grace th’ TeaBaggin’ crowd in DC w’ the stench o’ his marine head?!? It be givin’ him cov’r if’n th’ mob tries t’ start a mutiny, eh?
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Yarr!