26 Lies About Health Reform

FactCheck.org takes a look at one viral e-mail whose “facts” are frequently quoted at town hall meetings and discovers:

The chain e-mail purports to give “a few highlights” from the first half of the bill, but the list of 48 assertions is filled with falsehoods, exaggerations and misinterpretations. We examined each of the e-mail’s claims, finding 26 of them to be false and 18 to be misleading, only partly true or half true. Only four are accurate. A few of our “highlights”:

The e-mail claims that page 30 of the bill says that “a government committee will decide what treatments … you get,” but that page refers to a “private-public advisory committee” that would “recommend” what minimum benefits would be included in basic, enhanced and premium insurance plans.

The e-mail says that “non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services” but points to a provision that prohibits discrimination in health care based on “personal characteristics.” Another provision explicity forbids “federal payment for undocumented aliens.”

It says “[g]overnment will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.” This provision isn’t about children with learning disabilities; instead, it pertains to restricted enrollment in “special needs” plans, a category of Medicare Advantage plans. Enrollment is already restricted. The bill extends the ability to do that.

It claims that a section about “Community-based Home Medical Services” means “more payoffs for ACORN.” ACORN does not provide medical home services. The e-mail interprets any reference to the word “community” to be some kind of payoff for ACORN. That’s nonsense.

UPDATE: Swampland commenter Pierogielunair notes: There were four true claims? why things really are looking up for health care reform!

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  • spob

    With respect to illegal aliens, if the checking isn’t so hot, then the illegals can get coverage. Illegals aren’t supposed to work at jobs in America either.
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    Instead of taking on some viral email, shouldn’t Fact Check take on Ann Coulter?

  • spob

    And speaking of nonsense–where’s FactCheck.org on Obama’s statement that preventive care saves on total costs? Or what about his comment about surgeons getting $50K in reimbursement for a foot amputation? Or Obama’s silly comment about turning down five tests?

  • grape_crush

    Poor spob – it’s just gotta suck to find out just how many right-whinge talking points about health reform have no basis in reality.
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    No wonder you’re desperately trying to change the subject….

  • trifecta55

    My local blue dog (failed professional football player) congress member had a town hall on the radio yesterday where he was peppered with questions about the government debiting money from your bank account to force you to pay medical bills.
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    I am going to take hostages soon.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    The fact that Obama won the nomination and then went on to win the general election is solid evidence that these viral e-mail campaigns have significantly less effect than people hope or fear (depending on which side they’re on.)

    The kick is that the more convincing the authors try to make them the more full of holes the resulting product.

    Most people have enough experience with spammers to know how much credence to give these things. The true believers will remain unaffected in any event.

  • spob

    Grape, did you get dropped on your head as a child? Some viral email ain’t the same as POTUS.
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    By the way, KT, I didn’t recall the MSM getting all worked up about the bogus Patriot Act commentary.

  • momentomaury

    You’re missing the point here, Karen. Facts have nothing to do with it.
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    It doesn’t matter if it saves money. It doesn’t matter if it saves lives.
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    For a good third of the country, its Marxism personified and they will NEVER support it in any way. I’ve a better chance of using facts to convince my schnauzer that the world is round.

  • spob

    By the way guys, this is changing the subject:
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    http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/08/28/kennedy-liked-to-joke-about-chappaquiddick/
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    Klein was a buddy of Kennedy’s. And a journo. Seems pretty solid to me.

  • square1

    Rick Mirer is a Congressman?

  • grape_crush

    And, as an added bonus: A district-by-district analysis of the impact of HR 3200!

    Let’s take a district belonging to one of the GOP nutters…Michele Bachmann’s [.pdf]:

    America’s Affordable Health Choices Act would provide significant benefits in the 6th Congressional District of Minnesota:

    - up to 16,100 small businesses could receive tax credits to provide coverage to their employees;
    - 9,900 seniors would avoid the donut hole in Medicare Part D;
    - 1,400 families could escape bankruptcy each year due to unaffordable health care costs;
    - health care providers would receive payment for $64 million in uncompensated care each year; and
    - 29,000 uninsured individuals would gain access to high-quality, affordable health insurance.

    How much more plainly can this be spelled out, aside from using one-syllable words written in crayon?

  • grape_crush

    Heath Shuler, maybe?

  • spob

    But what about Obama’s “facts”? The tonsillectomy anecdote was silly. The idea that preventive care, systemwide, saves money is wrong. Further, his anecdote about cost savings arising from patients rejecting doctor-recommended tests is silly. What about those?

  • pierogielunaire

    There were four true claims? why things really are looking up for health care reform!

  • FlownOver

    Karen:

    Given all the attention to the town meeting/terrorist tactics and their persistent falsehoods, shouldn’t the MSM be getting around to major stories on the reality of the issue? Is it of no concern to Time that many people’s opinions are based on willful misrepresentation generated by special interests?

    I mean, it’s nice that you could give the billions of us Swampland denizens a copy of something from FactCheck.org, but does that really satisfy the journalistic responsibility to inform the broad public effectively and thoroughly about (a) the falsehoods being spread every day and (b) the venality of those originating the misinformation?

  • Friar Tuck

    Bubby Brister sure looks great behind that podium!

  • spob

    when you call the town meeting occurrences “terrorist attacks”, you lose all credibility, unless, of course, you’re referring to what the SEIU goons did in Missouri.

  • momentomaury

    Thanks for illustrating my point spob.

  • spob

    Oh, that’s right, some viral email is the most horrible thing in the world, but God forbid someone question the Messiah’s word . . . .

  • ogliberal

    The first two stories on FactCheck’s home page right now are fact checks on statements/claims Obama has made:

    http://www.factcheck.org/

    They ain’t exactly in the tank for the guy.

    And these chain emails do matter. Most of what the shouters at these town halls are screaming about are the lies in these emails. In addition, some of the same claims have been picked up and repeated by GOP officials and politicans.

  • spob

    My bad, og, I would have thought that Swampland folks would have publicized nonsense from the Prez. Silly me.

  • Cliff

    By the way guys, this is changing the subject:
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiderman

  • grape_crush

    spob, you lack the credibility to question anyone else’s credibility.

  • Cliff

    By the way guys, this is changing the subject:
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    http://www.howstuffworks.com/laser.htm

  • Cliff

    By the way guys, this is changing the subject:
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    http://www.penguinscience.com/

  • tommyjonq

    talk about being behind the ball. obama’s big criticism of godzillary’s “health” plan was that she kept the whole thing a secret for far too long. now, here he his, trying to slip one past the goalie with the same thundering lack of support hers got. now he has to “explain” a few thousand things. is this a stumble? or a brilliant ploy to just go ahead and let healthcare go down in flames now, and then fade away BEFORE it can kill the dummycrats in the mid-term elections?

  • spob

    Please grape, you point to one thing Ive written that shows a lack of credibility. One thing.
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    Come on.

  • momentomaury

    You’re missing the point.
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    The right will never be for any sort of government solution to anything. The concept of shared sacrifice for shared benefit is an anathema to them. Their philosophy is more akin to, “I got mine, you’re on your own”.
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    So, it doesn’t matter if the NEJM says that preventive care reduces costs. It doesn’t matter that the death panels don’t truly exist. It doesn’t matter that many countries have found ways for a profitable private option to coexist with a public option. The right doesn’t even really care if President Obama’s telling the truth or not.
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    Whatever he’s for, they’re against. Full stop. Period.

  • freeinpa

    momo:

    Or the liberal creed: YOU WORKED FOR YOURS NOW GIVE ME MINE

    Not just equal opportunity but equal outcomes

  • freeinpa

    Momo:

    Proving once again only someone with the brain of a schnauzer will be convinced by liberal drivel

  • freeinpa

    yes and none of the true claims came from liberals!

  • freeinpa

    I question the question of whether you can credibly question credibility without bringing you credibility into question

  • freeinpa

    Maybe he will name his 167th czar who will just decree health care reform

  • pierogielunaire

    Hey free, shouldn’t you be at your 12-step group for people addicted to government funded highways?

  • freeinpa

    KT:

    Maybe someone should fact check FactCheck.org

    Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), the man who is shepherding the health-care reform bill through the Senate, says he doesn’t know for sure, but the controversial Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) could qualify to receive health-care grants under a provision of the bill that provides money for groups that are members of a “national network of community based organizations.”
    The grant program in question envisions that grantees, including those representing national networks of community based organizatiosn, will work “to implement a variety of programs, policies, and infrastructure improvements to promote healthier lifestyles.”

    These grantees will be charged with carrying out a “community transformation plan,” and the targets of their activities will include local schools, infrastructure and restaurants.

    It does not specifically say they need to provide health care services.

    Where is the indignation of the liberals about FactCheck.org and “it’s lies and smears”

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    You know it’s almost unbelievable that Republicans walk around with guns strapped on their hips, shouting for armed insurrection. The craziest among them form militia’s and blow up government buildings. And in reality they are all a bunch of cowards scared of their own shadow. All that bluster you hear from freeinpa, textee and spob, well that’s like fear aggression in dogs. They figure if they puff up their chest,and growl ferociously, Democrats will fold first and go away before they have a chance to hurt them. For a party so averse to the theory of evolution, you are so blatantly animalistic in your behaviors.
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    Their entire philosophy is built on fear. They don’t try to scare grandma and vets because they are mean, well they are that too kind of like that junk yard dog, I did mention fear aggression right? Well any way, they are big scaredy cats. They fear people who don’t look like them, don’t sound like them and don’t love like them. They fear anyone that doesn’t share their God or at least their interpretation of their God, They fear the vast majority of working people so they cast their lot with the captains of industry. They fear the truth so they deal in lies and create entire realities free from truth so they can feel free from fear. They fear the unknown so they want to conserve the past no matter how broken it is because they fear change more.
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    The biggest mistake Republicans ever made was throwing in their lot with the cowards, not all conservative but all of them fearful of anything they can’t kill or control. Republicans use to be bold the, party of ideas and then you let a little troll named Gingrich gut you from within. Now you do little more than cower in the corner, quaking in your boots, ferociously growling at passerbys and praying that no one stops and hurts you.
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    Granted no one expects the GOP to act like the party of Lincoln but my goodness these cowards all rolled up into one can’t even be the party of Nixon.

  • freeinpa

    No i am looking for my government funded tunnels like the Boston Tunnel- years behind schedule and billions over budget. Hmmm sounds just like the HCR that folks are trying to shove down our throats

    The “absolute” cost growth for this project, without considering the change in the value of money over time, is approximately $12.0 billion (current project cost estimate of $14.6 billion minus original project cost estimate of $2.6 billion).

    AND IT STILL WASN’T BUILT CORRECTLY

  • http://acmeanvil.wordpress.com/ acmeanvil

    It would be honestly impossible to point to one thing that you have posted that did *not* demonstrate your lack of credibility.

    You do indeed regularly cite sources. But they are unfailingly limited to the repeatedly debunked avatars of the self-referencing right wing pontificate. Which hair color they poured of which bottle being the only significant variation between them.

  • freeinpa

    Gee Dee 4 whole paragraphs of name calling. That qualifies you to be the leading gaseous airbag of liberals.

    Those Republicans would be a lot more tolerable if they would just give the liberals what they want. I can almost hear you stamping your feet like a petulant child.

  • freeinpa

    Yes one must have the right sources and I would suggest yours are a devious as any. The only difference you actually think your right. Same arrogance as Obama is displaying and it hasn’t helped him one bit

  • esblofeld

    “The gays are going to destroy my marriage! Waaaaaaaaah!!”
    “The socialists are going to take my minimum wage! Waaaaaaaaah!!”
    “The atheists are going to take my God! Waaaaaaaaah!!”
    “The feminists are going to kill my baby and castrate our troops! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!”

  • freeinpa

    esblo

    Now I see the importance of health care reform. You are in serious need of treatment.

    Just for the record the feminists screwed marriage as an institution not the gays. Easier to bail then try and something work

    Socialists don’t take minimum wage they only seek “justice” from people earning money not those receiving a government mandated wage.

    Atheists will never take any one’s God because that implies that they acknowledge one.

    And feminists don’t kill babies that’s a right exercised by those that are morally bankrupt

  • spob

    Hmmmmmmm. Looks like Factcheck.org and the Congressional Research Service are at odds:
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    http://media.sfexaminer.com/documents/noncitizens.pdf
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    I think KT ought to update this post.

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  • http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com lawyermommy

    The only thing that surprises me about the Health care debate is that the Republican tactics seems to have hit the Obama team by surprise.

    I think that the responses should have been reasonably anticipated and prepared for.

    If the Obama team did not reasonably anticipate the backlash after so many failed attempts to reform heathcare by previous administrations then I certainly hope that based on the backlash from the Extreme Right, they have become better prepared now.

    http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/

  • mchristiansen

    I gave this a quick once over. All it seems to say is that illegal immigrants might be mandated to purchase health insurance, and that they aren’t restricted from participating in the exchange. They explicitly do not qualify for tax credits to help them pay for the health insurance they would be mandated to have.

    This actually seems to punish illegal immigrants more than anything else by requiring them to pay into the system even if they can’t afford it.

  • freeinpa

    I would say FactCheck is anything but…. But hey its on conservative and Republicans that lie. It can’t be a lie if a liberal believes it. They will just click their heels 3 times and its true.

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