In the Arena

Anne Wexler

The first sentences in her various obituaries inevitably refer to Anne Wexler as “an influential power broker” or a “powerful lobbyist,” which I suppose sends signals of a certain sort into the blogosphere. But I never thought of Anne that way, even though she was one of the more powerful women in Washington. She was a mentor, a surrogate mom, a great friend, a woman of strength and honor, a total delight. 

I first met her in the summer of 1974, when I had just started as Richard Goodwin’s deputy in the Rolling Stone Washington bureau. Our headquarters was Ethel Kennedy’s home in Virginia, and I remember Anne and her beloved husband Joe Duffy, bouncing down the lawn toward the swimming pool, where a group of us were…hanging out. She and Joe were pure joy–near-newlyweds, at that point, giggly in love. Anne had run Joe’s antiwar campaign for the U.S. Senate from Connecticut in 1970, a campaign that featured an array of future political stars–both Clintons, John and Tony Podesta, Sherrod Brown, John Kerry and many more–working in the trenches, licking envelopes, going door to door. They lost the race, but found each other, which was something of a scandal since both were married to others at the time…and Joe was a minister to boot. (Anne was married to my future wife’s orthodontist, a weird coincidence. Update: Dr. Wexler was not my wife’s orthodontist–but the Wexlers were friends of my now deceased in-laws and Anne managed my mother-in-law’s benighted campaign for state legislature, an experience that Anne remembered with exquisite brevity: “Oy.”)

Hillary Clinton says that Anne Wexler gave her her first job. Scores of other women–and more than a few men–say the same. She was a feminist pioneer in Washington and was well known in the Carter Administration for finding promising young women politicians and moving them up the ladder. She promoted me, too, when Dick Goodwin left Rolling Stone and Jann Wenner was looking for a Washington bureau chief. Anne, who had just signed on as associate publisher, told Jann to hire me.

We were a very strange team, both relatively new to Washington–although Anne was far more successful at figuring out how the town worked than I was. Her position at Rolling Stone was a place-holder; it was clear that she’d be part of the next Democratic Administration. She was in constant demand by politicians who wanted her to run their campaigns. Ralph Nader, then a real reform icon, checked in with Anne about the chances of an independent presidential run. She finally chose Jimmy Carter–as did our mutual friend Hunter Thompson–which was one of the few differences Anne and I had in 30 years of friendship. (I liked the blowsy populist Fred Harris that year.)

Anne went on to become one of the more competent people in a not very distinguished Carter White House and then the first prominent woman lobbyist, forming her own firm, Wexler and Walker, in 1981. We never talked very much about her clients or her work. We talked politics, we talked books and movies, she gave me advice–always solid, smart, loving–about what to do with my career. Her politics, progressive and pragmatic, never changed. She lived and died with the Democratic Party. She  was not a complainer–indeed, she had been battling cancer for years before she finally told me about it (a great many people who knew and loved her didn’t even know until the end). 

She  was, remarkably, Anne until the last, reading books on her kindle–she was a huge fan of spy novels and mysteries–and receiving friends, talking political strategy on issues ranging from health care to Iran. Bill and Hillary Clinton stopped by two weeks before she died, reminiscing about that 1970 campaign and sharing the latest gossip. I saw her for the last time a day later. She and Joe and their children were planning her memorial service. “She’s still giving orders,” her son Danny told me. She slipped away, gently, on Friday. She was a dear, dear friend…and, amidst a lifetime of memories, I’ll always remember Anne most for that expression on her face, as she and Joe bounced down the lawn at Hickory Hill, arm in arm: pure joy, pure love.

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  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Sorry for your lost Joe, and we should all be sorry for the lost of any uniquely competent and caring individual. I only wish that in this town we could focus more attention on the wise and instead of our current tradition to watch only the willful and the wicked.

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  • cfukara

    “focus attention”.
    Whose – mine? Why would I let JK do that to me?
    “Anne” who?
    There are many people who meant a lot to ME and whose lives I would like to focus your attention …

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    cfukara–
    .
    Are we really at the point where a simple gesture of compassion is to be debated for its right or wrongness?
    .
    I have no personal knowledge of Ms Wexler, but I am willing to believe that this post sincerely reflects how Joe Klein feels about her. That being the case, I wish that this country spent more time learning about and hearing from the wise and wonderful people like Joe Klein has described rather than simply focusing on the train wrecks who manipulate the debate like it’s a ten dollar whore.

  • plukasiak

    But I never thought of Anne that way….
    _
    which is why what passes for beltway “journalism” is such an atrocity.
    _
    Anne Wexler was a lobbyist — a parasite on the corpus of democracy. Your relationship with her should have been strictly arms length — yet you socialized with her, and considered a “mentor”.
    _
    I repeat — this woman was a PARASITE, who prostituted the access she’d gotten while working for Jimmy Carter to fill her pockets at the expense of the American taxpayer. She was a high priced hooker, and that’s how all journalists should have regarded her.
    _
    if you wnat to mourn this parasite, do so privately.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    pluk–from what you write you clearly come across as a truly unpleasant human being. How would you like it if what was said about you in your passing was based solely on what you post in this forum? This woman, like every human being has family, friends, and professional acquaintances that respect her and are now saddened. She appears to have worn many hats including advocate, analyst and strategist. And frankly, as a political junkie, I’m interested in learning the connections that have helped produce are history, and laid the ground for our future. You want to know where the failure of imagination comes from? It’s born the moment we demand that everything and everyone is limited to what can fit into a recognizable, identifiable little box. Now you can continue to stomp your feet or you can learn something you don’t know and explore why it might be meaningful to know.
    .
    You want to criticize policies and specific actions? Go for it, but railing against a eulogy about someone you don’t know just strikes me as mean spirited and nonsensical as those idiots threatening to burn down town halls. No knowledge is useless simply because you can’t figure out why it might be important to you. This is a Mark Twain moment you might want to stop shouting your ignorance to the rafters.

  • apollyon07

    ^ Then start your own blog.

  • apollyon07

    Sorry Dee, that was to cfukara.

  • apollyon07

    So, anyone who is/ever was a lobbyist, for any reason, group, or cause, is a parasite?

    Sheesh. How close-minded.

  • hellslittlestangel

    What is this, a health care town hall? Why don’t you just post in all caps, Puke?

  • cfukara

    Dee in Columbi…
    ” .. Are we really at the point where a simple gesture of compassion is to be debated for its right or wrongness? ..”

    The devil is in the shade of meaning you would conveniently bestow upon your words – like the evolving definition of “terrorist” or “terror” not to include us or what we subject the villagers in Panama, Grenada, Haiti, Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan … to during when we unleash our “shock and awe”.

    “Compassion” from JK? Maybe you don’t read his blogs on the Arabs that would resist Israel’s exclusivity and supremacist expansionism. There is nothing “compassionate” to be perceived in there – not even by a god with infinite goodwill in the eye.

    “Compassion”?
    From those who would wallow ensconced in the good life derived from billions of dollars in imperial loot carted every year out of the (resource) wealthiest continent of Africa – the de facto colonies of the west – while the African natives wallow and die in abject poverty, starvation and opportunistic diseases – or are used as guinea pigs to (often destructively) test and accelerate time-to-market high-end drugs for westerners?

    “Compassion”?
    From an average American taxpayer who would gratuitously invade a country in an orgy of rape, torture and slaughter of toddlers, mothers and fathers – and gloat as one man named Saddam Hussein, his sons and his grandson are wantonly murdered?

    Let us rephrase your (loaded) question in a way that many men of goodwill the world over would rather ask it:
    “Are we really at the point where a simple gesture of compassion is to be debated for its hypocrisy/duplicity?”

    YES.

  • cfukara

    Here is the missing link for “an average American taxpayer”:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20090808/cm_huffpost/253996

  • cfukara

    apollyon07:
    ” ..So, anyone who is/ever was a lobbyist, for any reason, group, or cause, is a parasite? ..”

    Are some, if not most, who are/ever were lobbyists .. despicable parasites?

    YES.

  • cfukara

    Dee in Columbi…” .. railing against a eulogy about someone you don’t know just strikes me as mean spirited and nonsensical ..”

    Lets see: Would rail against a eulogy for Hitler even though you didn’t know him personally?

    So you feel strongly against the sin of commission. How about that of omission, Dee? I don’t remember reading a eulogy from you for any one kid among the multitudes that our tax-dollars have denied life-saving drugs to, starved to death or violently killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan …

    Now, maybe the barbarians don’t deserve “compassion” or perhaps we should pin the tail on a mean spirited hypocrite?

  • Art Pepper

    cfukara, pluk, you guys are unbelievable.

    “I would like to ask the team what they would do if they were Hitler.”

    “Well I’d annex the Sudetenland and sign a non-aggression pact with Russia.”

  • jcapan

    Please, O-this-T:

    Digby today:

    “But regardless of what actually happens, if health reform fails, I believe that when the history is written it will be seen as a Democratic failure. If you put an issue on the table and are given a mandate to enact it, you are blamed for its failure, particularly when the whole promise of your campaign was based upon the magical notion that you would change the very nature of the political system. Sadly, if that happens, the likely result will not be a newly invigorated, liberal president with lessons learned and a fresh approach. It will be a chastened and weakened president newly committed to the status quo, just as the Village ordered from the beginning. And that, in the end, may be what was being promised all along: symbolism over substance. It wouldn’t be the first time.”

  • hotbbq

    @plukasiak & cfukara

    Low class all the way.

  • cfukara

    Welcome aboard, little buddy.

  • joe8591

    Plukasiak,

    I have personal insight to Anne Wexler. My grandmother was a remarkably wonderful, smart, talented, caring woman with respect for all. Her work in Washington was groundbreaking. She was truly a fighter; her strong will, energy and persistence pushed her through her battle against cancer and her achievements are numerous in the most politically-charged city in the world.

    Your generalizations, calling Anne a “parasite” and a “high priced hooker”, are close-minded, clearly uneducated and insensitive, especially given the current circumstance. These words you labeled Anne offended me deeply, as she played such important role in my life. Her success never compromised her modesty and generosity. Anne taught me and her other grandchildren her core values of hard work and responsibility. She gave my family and I so many opportunities to see the World, and I have noted how Anne always extended her charm and respect to people of all walks of life.

    I love Anne with all my heart and consider myself truly priveliged to have known such an incredible woman.

  • kathy

    Joe – very sorry for your loss.

    Thanks for the reminder that you’ve lead a more complex and interesting life than most of Swampland’s commenters realize, and for the reminder of some people and places that pull on my 60′s heart.

  • plukasiak

    Obviously, no one bothered to check out the companies and causes that Wexler worked for.
    _
    Among those companies was Methanex, which promoted the use of MTBE, a carcinogenic additive for methanol. And while Wexler’s efforts on behalf of Methanex are (thankfully) being turned back here in the US, the company is expanding its export of death overseas…
    _
    Wexler also has a very long term relationship with Comcast. Want to know why your cable bills are so high? Thank Anne Wexler — and keep in mind that she earned her pay by taking money out of your pocket.
    _
    Just because someone dies doesn’t make them a saint — Anne Wexler was a parasite the day before she died, and she’s still a parasite. She make her living sucking the lifeblood out of democracy — and nothing can change that.

  • plukasiak

    Dee –
    If Joe Klein wants to mourn privately for his friend, that’s up to him.
    _
    But when he uses his national soapbox to whitewash the career of a beltway influence peddler, the record should be set straight.
    _
    Use of the national media for displays of public grief should only be indulged in when the individual’s public career is worth mourning. In Wexler’s case, it simply wasn’t — being the first woman to do influence peddling through her own company isn’t an accomplishment to be proud of. Its like praising Aileen Wouros for her “groundbreaking” efforts as a female serial killer.
    _
    I’m sure Wexler threw lovely dinner parties, and was nice to children, didn’t kick stray dogs, and gave to the right (career-advancing) charities. I’m sure she was a loving grandmom who used her ill-gotten wealth and connections to grease the skids of success for her grandchildren while promoting the myth that she was teaching them the value of hard work.
    _
    But that doesn’t make her worthy of a national whitewash, just the usual private one conducted at funerals and memorial services. The public should get the full story.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Wexler was a parasite the day before she died,
    Yes but you weren’t calling her one that day. Using her death as the occasion to trash her is not only tacky but counterproductive. The time to call out evil is when it’s happening, not when it’s over.

  • plukasiak

    Using her death as the occasion to trash her is not only tacky but counterproductive.The time to call out evil is when it’s happening, not when it’s over.
    _
    I wasn’t using her death — I was responding to Klein’s whitewash of her toxic influence peddling. Had it not been for Klein’s beltway insider pandering, I’d have nothing to say about Wexler’s death. But Klein’s disgustingly (for a journalist) portrait of Wexler demanded that the facts about her be disclosed.
    _
    And evil should be called out any time some “journalist” tries to rebrand it as “strength and honor”. She may have been strong, but there is no honor in what she did to fill her pockets.

  • bobell

    Do I detect the foul odor of sanctimoniousness? Anne Wexler, like all human beings, was neither all good nor all bad. She was obviously a valued mentor to many and a good friend to many more. She lobbied for plenty of good causes and plenty more that some people favored and others didn’t. Okay, she also represented some people who weren’t very nice. Let him who is without sin …
    .
    One of the risks of giving someone like Joe Klein access to a blog is that he’s going to say something reflecting his very own personal opinion or — worse yet — something that some commenter disagrees with. Yawanna do like Joe — follow applyon07′s advice upthread.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    I happen to think that evil should denounced, whether the person responsible is dead or not. After all, we don’t stop commemorating the Holocaust simply because Hitler and the rest have deceased – and nor should we. Evil that is put quietly to rest will sooner or later flourish again.

    I realize that Joe Klein is trying to commemorate a friend and mentor, who clearly meant a great deal to him, and I respect that fact. However, it is fair to expect that a public discussion of that person should provide all the facts, rather than simply focusing on the fact that she was nice to Joe, fell in love, and liked to read. Surely those facts fit more than one person. What made Anne Wexler distinctive? Surely her career taken as a whole, and that’s what we really don’t see in this piece.

  • juniusredivivus

    We never talked very much about her clients or her work.

    Strange way for a journalist to behave, don’t you think? Did you talk much to that nice Mr Hoekstra about his work and his clients? What about the good-natured Mr Rove? Or, for that matter, the old honeybear, Max Baucus?

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    What is wrong with you people who use Hitler and Nazism as a comparison for any old run of the mill person or position you dislike or disagree with. Have you absolutely no sense of proportionality, or do you think it makes you sound tough? The Holocaust is not an exclamation point, it is the point. and how dare you diminish what it means to those whom perished and those they left behind, what is symbolizes to an entire world, and what it means to every individual who, if not for the victory of the allies, would have been next in line for the gas chambers.
    .
    Frankly, regardless of what Ms Wexler may have done for a living, nothing that has been said or not said, since that seems to be the main bone of contention, rises to even the lowest level of evil, let alone the most evil. The only question we should be asking is how did some members of our society become so devoid of common sense and a basic humanity that they can no longer realize how offensive their cavalier comparisons are to people who actually know something about Hitler’s Germany beyond what they saw in Schindler’s List,
    .
    Hitler and his followers did some of the most insidious and evil things that human beings have ever perpetrated on one another, and considering the evil that men do that is no minor achievement. While I’m quite sure, from the severe lack of compassion, and rigidity of thought displayed here, that had some of you lived in those circumstances you would have fallen right in line with the regime, Not even your little minds should be compared to something and someone so outstandingly vile.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    Dee, if you read what I wrote again, you’ll see that my argument is that we should not stop talking about evil because the perpetrators have died. I did NOT say that Wexler was a Nazi, or that she participated in the Holocaust. I was responding to an earlier comment about how we should only talk about evil when it happens. Please, read my post, think, and then respond.

  • juniusredivivus

    Basil, you’ve made the mistake of trying to be reasonable again. You can’t expect Dee to read, think and respond to what you actually said. Life is short, and Dee has a hasty trigger finger on the flame thrower.

  • juniusredivivus

    Dee in Columbi…
    August 9, 2009
    at 2:11 pm
    the train wrecks who manipulate the debate like it’s a ten dollar whore.

    I’ve never manipulated a ten-dollar whore myself. What does it feel like? How does manipulating a debate compare to the hypothetical feeling of manipulating said minimally priced sexworker? Kindly explain.

  • cfukara

    In the course of life, we read and hear plenty – and often some insights remain with us long after we have forgotten who to thank for it.
    On public radio, a guest discussed evil and the world’s parade of evil people in history. He said the following with regard to the evil people: It is not a surprise evil persons can do their evil deeds against their fellow man – the dastardly crimes against humanity – all day in their “official duties” and yet go home in the evening to be very kind and loving to their cats.
    {Ariel Sharon, a family man and loving grandfather …}

  • cfukara

    In the course of life, we read and hear plenty – and often some insights remain with us long after we have forgotten who to thank for it.
    On public radio, a guest discussed evil and the world’s parade of evil people in history. He said the following with regard to the evil people: It is not a surprise evil persons can do their evil deeds against their fellow man – the dastardly crimes against humanity – all day in their “official duties” and yet go home in the evening to be very kind and loving to their cats.
    {Ariel Sharon, a family man and loving grandfather … }

  • cfukara

    I apologize for the double entry.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    No need for me to reread your comments, I understood them the first time around. Perhaps I could have made it more clear that you were mainly a segue to a larger conversation and in the future I will start with now that you bring it up…
    .
    The response was mainly focused on the lack of proportionality in our rhetoric and this tendency to label everything and everyone we disagree with as evil. This was a message that was largely directed toward plukasiak and cfkura. However, your using an analogy of Hitler to explain how and when evil should be confronted, provided a platform to go one step further to explain what really constitutes evil.
    .
    Tell me would you have chosen to use this specific analogy had it not been for the rise in this kind of symbolism and message development being used in the Health care debate? Obviously, you are not the architect of this movement to delegitimize the president and Democrats through comparisons with Nazism. However, you chose this specific analogy mainly because it has become fashionable lately to use Hitler comparisons to gain partisan advantage. My point is that none of us should using this kind of terminology in our comments because it serves to only trivialize the event.

  • stuartzechman

    Paul Lukasiak:
    .
    Please bear for a few moments with whatever sanctimony I am unable to remove from this criticism of your commentary on this thread:
    .
    There has to be a way for us to talk about individuals’ professional roles (and the legitimate harm to others that such participation causes) in the hour of their recent death without abandoning our acknowledgment of their –and therefore our own– humanity.
    .
    The foul, self-aggrandizing Village hagiography that accompanied the passing of Tim Russert was not reason enough to be matched by commensurate myth-breaking during his family’s grieving days –no matter how vile the opportunism of Russert’s colleagues, no matter how ridiculous or wrong their celebration of his dangerously flawed and demonstrably malignant career.
    .
    At the very least, you might want to consider the necessity of such criticism against it’s effect, which is to ask yourself prior to reacting to posts like Joe Klein’s “Does the egregiousness of this individual’s actions in life truly require that I resemble Saddam Hussein’s executioners in my wake-contemporaneous criticisms?“. The subject of Joe Klein’s tribute is gone and therefore incapable of claiming any reward in his posthumous praise, Paul Lukasiak.
    .
    Just my thoughts; I hope you will at least consider these ideas for a few seconds, even if you ultimately reject them.

  • juniusredivivus

    Dee, that comment of yours at 13.4 is the lamest, most self-serving piece of garbage that you have posted on here, and that’s saying something. Basil did NOT draw a comparison between Wexler and the Nazis, nor did he try to delegitimate the President by speaking of the Holocaust. His point was the sensible one that we cannot simply forget about evil because the perpetrators are dead – otherwise it might happen again. That’s a non-partisan point, and a very rational one. You owe Basil an apology, loud and clear.

  • juniusredivivus

    Do I detect a flavor of late-period Zechman centrism in that response? Insofar as I understand the rather convoluted phrasing, I believe you might be saying: people are not all good or all bad, so let’s not go over the top in our responses to their careers, whether to praise or to blame. Is that an accurate translation?

  • cfukara

    “Does the egregiousness of this individual’s actions in life truly require that I resemble ( … ) executioners in my wake-contemporaneous criticisms?”
    OK. Now answer the question in detail.
    [While you are at it, tell us whether a sin is a sin - that is, if there is such a thing as a 'big' or 'totally agregious' sin and a 'small' sin that only conveys a 'small' portion of the soul unto hell ..]

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Okay clearly in your outrage you must have missed the part where I wrote:
    .
    Perhaps I could have made it more clear that you were mainly a segue to a larger conversation and in the future I will start with now that you bring it up…
    .
    and said.
    .
    The response was mainly focused on the lack of proportionality in our rhetoric and this tendency to label everything and everyone we disagree with as evil. This was a message that was largely directed toward plukasiak and cfkura.
    .
    and said
    .
    However, your using an analogy of Hitler to explain how and when evil should be confronted, provided a platform to go one step further to explain what really constitutes evil.
    .
    and said
    .
    Obviously, you are not the architect of this movement to delegitimize the president and Democrats through comparisons with Nazism.
    .
    Perhaps I should have under lined the parts where I am saying its not about you.Obviously, you are not the architect of this movement to delegitimize the president and Democrats through comparisons with Nazism.

  • rose83

    What’s with all the craziness on these threads lately? Is there some competition no one told me about where the most over-the-top commenter in August gets health insurance for life?
    .
    Joe, sorry for your loss and I hope you’ve stopped reading this thread.

  • cfukara

    ” .. tendency to label everything and everyone we disagree with as evil. This was a message that was largely directed toward plukasiak and cfkura. ..”

    I feel scandalized. I have been misunderstood!
    Actually, I cautioned moderation in all we do.
    I also hinted at the Ariel Sharon a hero lionized by many Israelis but a person who many still hope to haul to the ICC for the crimes against humanity – the Sabra and Shatila massacre.

    Let us not forget that Hitler was a hero to many a Nazi, and he still is.

  • cfukara

    Keep on reading, rose.

  • juniusredivivus

    Dee, you need to direct your apologies to Basil, not to me. I personally find your evasiveness rather distasteful, but it was his post you misrepresented and lied about in the first place.

  • square1

    Your generalizations, calling Anne a “parasite” and a “high priced hooker”, are close-minded, clearly uneducated and insensitive,

    Joe,

    I have no doubt that Anne Wexler was hard-working, smart, and fearless. I am also inclined to believe that she was generous with her friends, family, and social peers.

    Unfortunately, most Americans (not to mention 99% of the planet’s population) do not fit into those categories and got the short end of Wexler’s ambition.

    Plus, for the grass-roots for the Democratic Party, Wexler was a quintessential entrenched, institutional power-broker that constantly undermined real reform in the party and the country.

    From MSNBC:

    TODD: The only problem that Edwards would have, even if he won Iowa and New Hampshire, is that the Democratic elite can‘t stand Edwards. There is this weird establishment problem that Edwards has and they take it as a badge of honor.
    .
    And they say, see, these people in D.C., they don‘t like me because I‘m speaking the truth or I‘m a populist. But you know what, at the end of the day, if he ends up as her chief challenger, I think she could rally the establishment and win this thing in one of these delegate fights. And that‘s the real hurdle Edwards would have if he…
    .
    MATTHEWS: Give me some names of the establishment?
    .
    TODD: I‘m not going to sit here and name names.
    .
    (CROSSTALK)
    .
    MATTHEWS: . the establishment over here. Who are these dark figures that.
    .
    TODD: It‘s called the Democratic National Committee.
    .
    MATTHEWS: Who are these people? Anne Wexler? Ann Lewis? Who are these people?
    .
    TODD: Yes, it‘s called the Democratic National Committee.

    In short, if you have been banging your head against the wall for the last 20 years, wondering why the Democratic Party has done such a poor job of standing up to corporate interests, you can thank the Anne Wexlers of the party. But she was a nice grandmother….

  • stuartzechman

    juniusredivivus:
    .
    Insofar as I understand the rather convoluted phrasing…
    .
    Yes, this is why my writing is universally considered to be poorly thought out, boring and incomprehensible.
    .
    I believe you might be saying: people are not all good or all bad, so let’s not go over the top in our responses to their careers, whether to praise or to blame. Is that an accurate translation?
    .
    As usual I’ve done a horrible job of communicating a very simple idea.
    .
    No, that’s not an accurate rephrasing at all.
    .
    I’m really saying that:
    .
    1) unless we’re able to point to a specific genocidal event for which the eulogized individual was personally responsible, there really isn’t a necessity to push back against published personal obituaries like Joe Klein’s during a period of mourning
    .
    2) when we are considered heartless f*cking monsters even by our political sympathizers for attacking the participants in a corrupt system as if their roles were tantamount to personally signing off on the aerial gassing of Kurdish villages, then perhaps our methods deserve further reflection
    .
    I hope that makes the idea a tad more clear, juniusredivivus,
    .
    Do I detect a flavor of late-period Zechman centrism…?
    .
    That’s a good one; I almost got side-tracked laughing in reply to such an incredibly offensive, yet well-phrased insult.

  • plukasiak

    I guess I disagree about myth-breaking, stuart. There is nothing wrong with being unequivocal in ones criticism of the public role played by prostitutes and parasites like Wexler (and Russert), and the occasion of the death of a parasite is an entirely appropriate time to criticize them.
    _
    Perhaps, just perhaps, if more people were willing to be honest right now about how destructive to democracy, and fundamentally amoral, Anne Wexler was, we’d have fewer of her ilk in the future. If Anne Wexler knew that upon her death the overwhelming reaction would be “good riddance to bad rubbish; the woman not merely personified, but held bring about, everything that is wrong with the current political process”, perhaps she would have acted in a way that did not negate consideration of her “humanity”.
    _
    But Wexler knew that people like Joe Klein would use their access to a national audience to praise her, rather than tell the truth about her — and went to her grave without shame.
    _
    Everyone deserves the right to be mourned privately by those who loved them — but that right is conferred for the benefit of the mourners, not the dead. But when you choose to make that mourning public, and exploit your position to gain sympathy for the deceased, you lose that right to respect for your grief.

  • juniusredivivus

    Honorable Zechman-sensei, this humble scribe offers your Incomparable Magnificence a few pointers:

    1) Mr Adjective is NOT your friend.

    2) Mr Polysyllable doesn’t like you either.

    3) Mr Short Sentence is a better friend than Mr Massive-Paragraph.

    4) Insult? Offensive? I think you need to talk to Mr Dontshoot-Themessenger. He holds Townhalls on a regular basis, or used to.

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks so much for the cogent and respectful reply, Paul Lukasiak.
    .
    We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this particular issue/method, then.

  • stuartzechman

    juniusredivivus:
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    LOL.
    .
    If you’re going to continue to take me down this hilariously, I should definitely post more Proustian commentary.

  • juniusredivivus

    unless we’re able to point to a specific genocidal event for which the eulogized individual was personally responsible, there really isn’t a necessity to push back against published personal obituaries like Joe Klein’s during a period of mourning

    If we can’t show that the person in question was responsible for a genocidal event, we shouldn’t make such an accusation, especially when responding to an obituary for them by a friend.

    when we are considered heartless f*cking monsters even by our political sympathizers for attacking the participants in a corrupt system as if their roles were tantamount to personally signing off on the aerial gassing of Kurdish villages, then perhaps our methods deserve further reflection

    If even our friends call us out for making false accusations, perhaps we need to rethink our approach.

    I just hate to see a good Proustian going all Taibbi at a time of crisis. Longtemps, je me suis couche de bonne heure and all that.

  • jcapan

    P-luk, what of this?

    “Bill and Hillary Clinton stopped by two weeks before she died, reminiscing about that 1970 campaign and sharing the latest gossip.”

    They too seem more than willing to separate the person from the profession. Given your adoration for all things Clintonian, what say you?

  • Cliff

    Ooooh, looks like you’re out of the competition. So sorry.

  • http://www.nfmpolitico.com/2009/08/10/remainders-pyongyang-vegas-pittsburgh/ Remainders: Pyongyang-Vegas-Pittsburgh

    [...] Wexler is warmly recalled by Joe Klein and Bob [...]

  • plukasiak

    are you insane?
    _
    what makes you think that i adore all things Clinton. The fact that I think Hillary would have made a better president than Obama? That’s an extremely low bar — and one that gets lower with each passing day.

  • cfukara

    “Bill and Hillary Clinton stopped by ..”
    So?
    Are those two supposed to be a yardstick of something or role models we should emulate?
    Perhaps. What else do those two low-life geezers do – lie, fornicate, smoke cigars, humiliate a maiden in public …?

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    You’ve never fornicated, cfuk? What do you spend your Saturday nights doing, for heaven’s sake? And what’s wrong with the occasional cigar? As for humiliating maidens in public, who are we to refuse bdsm devotees their fix? If we abolish lies.. well, does that mean we have to pitch in to find Rush Limbaugh gainful employment? Please, think through your immoderate stances on these complex issues!

  • cfukara

    Mankind is redeemed if monsters like Cheney, Blair, Rice, Lynndie England, Rumsfled, Bremmer, Yoo .. are assured unequivocally that when they croak we shall not all be standing around with hands clasped while we sing their phony praises.
    And they may as well remember that the bad deeds they do shall haunt their offspring, friends and relative unto eternity.
    {Sins of the fathers shall be visited upon their offspring?}
    And should we find them culpable posthumously, we shall exhume them, glue their skeleton back together and hang them high like they should be – for all to see and internalize the lesson that crimes against humanity don’t pay.

    Now who were we discussing?

  • cfukara

    ” Please, think through your immoderate stances on these complex issues!”
    What I see from you are Q’s asked. Did the dog eat your thoughts?

  • cfukara

    “complex issues”?
    What complex issues?

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    cfuk, the complex issues being the simple pleasures you apparently despise and would deny to others. Or are you secretly revealing your deepest desires? Do you crave the chance to humiliate maidens (only maidens? how will you tell?) in public?

  • jcapan

    “are you insane?”
    ~
    Given that I keep returning to el swampo after nearly 2 years, I’m deeming that rhetorical.
    ~
    No, the reason I asked is that in all that time I don’t recall you writing a single word against her. I’m not disagreeing with your pre/post parasite stance. I wanted to bash my TV during the Nixon/Reagan funerals–the whitewashing was that repulsive.
    ~
    My point, if I have one here, is that your continuing anti-Obama screed, with which I largely agree mind you, would be far more effective if it weren’t seen as coming from a spurned Puma. From a wider progressive disenchantment with corporate democrats. A critique acknowleging that there ain’t much diff. between Bill, Hill or Barack (from ’92 to ’09, it’s the same f’ing sh!t)

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    What an exhilarating thread. Grazie a tutti!

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